FabSwingers.com forum: hitler kicked out of school!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apparently kids can't dress as hitler in a school day about ww2

Talk about erasing part of history.can't ignore the bloke who caused it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely you see why its inappropriate...

I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with deleted or denying part of history...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is not learning about the man important to kids to understand what happened to millions of people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's stupid not allowing them to dress as him as he is a major part of the war.

It was in the news that a child has had his name forcibly changed by the courts somewhere abroad because he was called either Adolf or hitler. Can't remember the whole thing as was a while ago now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dressing as Hitler is far different and far more offensive to people (insert multiple ethnicities here) than learning about him...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

unfortunately, if you have a dress up day with a theme, you cant expect to only invite the 'good guys'.

star wars theme, how many you reckon would want to be vader?

think of all those on Alderan that would be upset....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

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the school says

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How could a child grow a tash ? Seriously though I think a child with Jewish roots might just find that a little bit uncomfortable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is not learning about the man important to kids to understand what happened to millions of people.

yes but you can do that without dressing up as him

i dare say they wont be allowing toy guns in either even tho they was a big part of the war

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

At least Hitler actually existed and there's something to be learned from his story - unlike Mary, Joseph and thon donkey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At least Hitler actually existed and there's something to be learned from his story - unlike Mary, Joseph and thon donkey."

no there really was a donkey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure like me lots of us on here had grandparents in the war. My grandad was and was lucky enough to survive. He was a Dunkirk evacuee and when he came back looked so awful was made to go away for a two week holiday to recoup, because like many others they did look so thin and damaged they did not want the families back home to be frightened by their appearances.

I dont feel offended by people dressing up like Hilter. He is a part of history that should never be forgotten. If the kids have a bit of laugh at the same time so be it. At least they are learning about what happened though.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slightly off topic, a girl I work with didn't know what the holocaust was, she had no idea that millions and millions of people had been killed, her reason for this, she doesn't like history

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At school children learn about lots of parts of history, my daughter is at the moment doing American history and they are learning about slavery, tho no one feels the need to dress up as a slave to get education over, why do you need to dress as Hitler to learn about him? buy not allowing children to dress as him does not mean they are denying that part of history

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By *ustyBrunette35Couple
over a year ago

birmingham

The school should have been clearer.

Its no good saying come along dressed in WWII theme and then kicking a child out who came dressed as Hitler.

They said it was ok to come as soldiers but apparently not the leader of the soldiers from one side

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By *ustyBrunette35Couple
over a year ago

birmingham

"would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse.."

What would be OK to dress in if the school had a theme day on abuse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

What would be OK to dress in if the school had a theme day on abuse?

school uniform

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a nanny state we live in..pc gone mad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a nanny state we live in..pc gone mad

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

What would be OK to dress in if the school had a theme day on abuse?

school uniform

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I seem to recall a godalmighty stink when Prince Harry thought it was a good idea to dress up in a Nazi uniform...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

Whilst it's OK to dress the same kid as a fictitious religious figure in whose name many more have been killed over the last 2000 years?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

I do reenactment stuff (Wars of the Roses) and i know quite a few people who do German WWII portrayals.

They are happy to explain to the general public exactly why they choose to portray the Wermacht units they do, but they never allow anyone to wear or portray SS or Waffen SS units even though those units fought in some major campaigns of the war. Quite simply, those uniforms and insignia cause offence and insult to many people and also attract the right wing nutjobs.

They go to great lengths to out the nutjobs from their applicants, only last month i heard about one new recruit who had rather quickly moved on from praising UKIP to being very vocal about the EDL and BNP.

He was asked to leave the group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

Whilst it's OK to dress the same kid as a fictitious religious figure in whose name many more have been killed over the last 2000 years?"

And there my friend u have the absolute crux of the issue 'in whose name ' - he didn't advocate the killing whereas Hitler unquestionably did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right.. "

did you read that before you posted?

so, you would have a problem with someone dressing up as hindley or brady, but would be ok for the school your children go to to have a dress up day to study abuse?

so, what do we have left to us?

dress up as murder victims?

surely thats in poorer taste than dressing as someone that had a HUGE significance on the shape of the lives we live now, as well as the continent we are mostly involved with.

why does no one have problems with peoples dressing a caesar/attila the hun/napoleon/ most other hatefilled people from histroy, yet there is a special place reserved for a blanket ban on acknowleging the existance of an individual that possibly, had the biggest influence of any single person of the 20th century

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

Whilst it's OK to dress the same kid as a fictitious religious figure in whose name many more have been killed over the last 2000 years?

And there my friend u have the absolute crux of the issue 'in whose name ' - he didn't advocate the killing whereas Hitler unquestionably did

not everything that was done by the German forces was passed down from Hitler, there was some elements done 'in his name' by his 'mad' underlings, so yes, the similie stands up to scrutiny (see, _nny, we are on the same side for a change lol)

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right..

did you read that before you posted?

so, you would have a problem with someone dressing up as hindley or brady, but would be ok for the school your children go to to have a dress up day to study abuse?

so, what do we have left to us?

dress up as murder victims?

surely thats in poorer taste than dressing as someone that had a HUGE significance on the shape of the lives we live now, as well as the continent we are mostly involved with.

Possibly because it is still within very recent memory for many, many families across Europe and the World?

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right..

did you read that before you posted?

so, you would have a problem with someone dressing up as hindley or brady, but would be ok for the school your children go to to have a dress up day to study abuse?

so, what do we have left to us?

dress up as murder victims?

surely thats in poorer taste than dressing as someone that had a HUGE significance on the shape of the lives we live now, as well as the continent we are mostly involved with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Possibly because it is still within very recent memory for many, many families across Europe and the World?

absolutely no argument with that.

but there is a marked difference between a bloke goose stepping down a high street, dressed as such, screaming right wing extremist propaganda, and a child walking into school wearing a uniform to take part in a WWII themed dress up day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive."
So would it be ok to dress as Harold Shipman if the day was about the NHS?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

In fact, it was only during the fall into WWI that racial supremacy theories (supported by C19th psuedo-science) were espoused, particularly by the Austro-Hungarian Empire about the 'threat' to them of a pan-Slavic state arising from the collapse of the Western Ottoman Empire.

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The question you need to ask hear is a simple one is it celebrating Hitler or reminding people about him. You cannot forget about the past do so means it will only keep repeating itself.

There are many groups and people in WW11 people will be offended by. The Waffen SS, Wermacht, The RAF and Churchill to name a few. Why the RAF and Churchill you might ask. Well Who was who bomb Dresden, and the Mohne and Edersee Dams. Churchill was the war leader and so responsible for it all. Do not forget we did know about the German raid on Coventry but did nothing at all about it. Also it is said Churchill was prepared to use Chlorine gas, if the main land was invaded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freddy Star got away with doing it on telly !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive."

Though probably not being a 'little' sensitive if u are the Jewish grandparent of some other child n u have to witness the sight of an innocent child who doesn't realize the implications of the outfit merrily marching through the school gates

And the memory of your relatives shoved in virtual cattle wagons heads shaved crawling with lice beaten worked to the bone n malnourished till you drop n then gassed as surplus to requirements.

Or surviving it all only to stagger eventually back home to discover some fat Aryan has been living the life of luxury in YOUR home amongst YOUR possessions

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

Wasn't Darwin's thing about 'natural' selection?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.

And the memory of your relatives shoved in virtual cattle wagons heads shaved crawling with lice beaten worked to the bone n malnourished till you drop n then gassed as surplus to requirements.

Or surviving it all only to stagger eventually back home to discover some fat Aryan has been living the life of luxury in YOUR home amongst YOUR possessions

to be fair, tho i don't agree with dressing up as Hitler, i doubt anyone who have real memories of what he did will be in any school being offended by children dressed as him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The question you need to ask hear is a simple one is it celebrating Hitler or reminding people about him. You cannot forget about the past do so means it will only keep repeating itself.

I know have an image of a kid dressed as Churchill chugging on a big fat cigar

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

Wasn't Darwin's thing about 'natural' selection?"
Justified by survival of the fittest. Unbelievably racist man(Darwin) which most people today base their beliefs on. Read up on him. It's shocking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.So would it be ok to dress as Harold Shipman if the day was about the NHS?"

wouldnt bother me in the slightest.

back on topic, as a man who's grandfather was 24 hours away from being murdered in a camp during the war, who managed to escape and come to this country, i have as much dislike for hitlers historical reference as any sane normal thinking person would have, BUT as has been said, this is not celebrating his existence, merely acknowleging it.

dont know if anyone remembers their school days (for many of us they are a distant memory) but i for one remember on dress up days, i wanted to stand out and not go with the flow, as it were, so, in a sea of soldiers from the allied forces, of course there will be a smattering of those from the opposition.

however, im not looking forward to the thread about the school dress up day celebrating the 80's and having to read about the kid that goes dressed as Thatcher lol

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

Wasn't Darwin's thing about 'natural' selection?"

Nazi ideology held that the Germanic 'Ubermensch' race was genetically superior and used a warped version of Darwin's theory to support this claim - like i said, C19th pseudo science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.

And the memory of your relatives shoved in virtual cattle wagons heads shaved crawling with lice beaten worked to the bone n malnourished till you drop n then gassed as surplus to requirements.

Or surviving it all only to stagger eventually back home to discover some fat Aryan has been living the life of luxury in YOUR home amongst YOUR possessions

we all know history, n one is denying it.

but please, get some context.

its about a CHILD in a fancy dress costume.

not about people purposely going out to cause hurt, harm or insult.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.So would it be ok to dress as Harold Shipman if the day was about the NHS?

wouldnt bother me in the slightest.

however, im not looking forward to the thread about the school dress up day celebrating the 80's and having to read about the kid that goes dressed as Thatcher lol"

I'm not going near that thread if it comes out. Thatcher bashing - I'm bored with !

Agree with you guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so its not so much about the atrocity, more about the time lapsed since?

if people can get upset by a school child in dress up, then i really do think some are a little too sensitive.

And the memory of your relatives shoved in virtual cattle wagons heads shaved crawling with lice beaten worked to the bone n malnourished till you drop n then gassed as surplus to requirements.

Or surviving it all only to stagger eventually back home to discover some fat Aryan has been living the life of luxury in YOUR home amongst YOUR possessions

we all know history, n one is denying it.

but please, get some context.

its about a CHILD in a fancy dress costume.

not about people purposely going out to cause hurt, harm or insult."

Well said

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

Offence doesn't have to be intentional to cause distress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the intrests of completion here and i am in no way supporting his ideals or political beliefs here.

He was to date the only genuinely elected dictator in human history.

He turned a broken and bankrupt Germany into the most advanced and industrialised nation of its time.

He was the public face of the Nationalist Socialist Party, the animals were Himmler and Goerbels who were directly responsible for the death camps and Storm troopers.

He ruled the military with an iron fist and was strategically incompetent. Hence the assassination attempts. The germans would have won the war easilly by chasing us back after Dunkirk, our entire army was on those beaches but hitler stopped because he wanted to set up an eastern front despite 3 of his top generals arguing with him. If Bismarck or doenitz had been in charge we wouldnt be having this conversation.

That said, he allowed the attrocities to occur and makes him just as guilty.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

What would be OK to dress in if the school had a theme day on abuse?

that's is the point I am trying to make and said so in my whole post you took that from..

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester

"At least Hitler actually existed and there's something to be learned from his story - unlike Mary, Joseph and thon donkey.

no there really was a donkey

We're not having that !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the intrests of completion here and i am in no way supporting his ideals or political beliefs here.

He was to date the only genuinely elected dictator in human history.

He turned a broken and bankrupt Germany into the most advanced and industrialised nation of its time.

He was the public face of the Nationalist Socialist Party, the animals were Himmler and Goerbels who were directly responsible for the death camps and Storm troopers.

That said, he allowed the attrocities to occur and makes him just as guilty. "

Have you been watching Yesterday on freeview?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"In the intrests of completion here and i am in no way supporting his ideals or political beliefs here.

He was to date the only genuinely elected dictator in human history.

He turned a broken and bankrupt Germany into the most advanced and industrialised nation of its time.

He was the public face of the Nationalist Socialist Party, the animals were Himmler and Goerbels who were directly responsible for the death camps and Storm troopers.

That said, he allowed the attrocities to occur and makes him just as guilty. "

Hitler didn't just 'allow' the Holocaust, he was a prime mover in the ideology and inception of the concept of a 'Judenfrei' Europe. Just because he left the finer details of logistics to Himmler and his sub commanders such as Heydrietch doesn't absolve him of the responsibility for the horror.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the costume available in Asda yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If in the environment of a school learning exercise - which I'm all in favour of - they wish to have Hitler represented they can get round that with a life size cardboard cut out u woulda thort rather than little billy saying ' Miss, I've come as Hitler' .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If in the environment of a school learning exercise - which I'm all in favour of - they wish to have Hitler represented they can get round that with a life size cardboard cut out u woulda thort rather than little billy saying ' Miss, I've come as Hitler' ."

really?

you would rather the school come prepared witha lifesize cardboard cut out of the actual man, rather than a child use a little bit of intellegence, individuality and investigation and think 'you know what, everyone will be going as a soldier, gavin and reece said they are going as churchill, i reckon i could get some kudos points with the teachers if i go as hitler and think outside the box a bit. and hey, if mom will let me use the phone, maybe a can get Michelle out of maths to go as Eva Braun, and get a bit of a fumble round the back of the bike sheds'

it astounds me when people moan about kids lacking imagination and just sitting in front of a playstation/xbox, yet when someone does actually show a bit of indiviudalism (not downright vindictism or nastiness btw) we cant wait to slap it out of them because it may upset someones sensibilities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

was he sent home because it was a crap costume then and he had to announce who he was ? This changes things completely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd the cardboard cut out part of a game like pin the tail on the donkey?

Should it be pin the moustache on or pin his missing bollock on? I'm voting for the bollock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

was he sent home because it was a crap costume then and he had to announce who he was ? This changes things completely

Well your jokey remark actually makes a point!

The school

Miss - ' now children here u all are for our history lesson on world war 11, step forward Billy to front of class

Now billy you have come dressed as the most demonized ruler in man's history. Having started as a successful leader u then went on to drag your country in2 war with all the world, murdering any who got in your way n brought your own country to its knees refusing to pull out of Russia when all hope was lost and sending boys as young as 16 as canon fodder to the front bla bla bla plus of course the holocaust bla bla bla '

Why are you crying Billy? '

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn it around what wiuld the school said if he came as a child from the death camps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

was he sent home because it was a crap costume then and he had to announce who he was ? This changes things completely

Well your jokey remark actually makes a point!

The school

Miss - ' now children here u all are for our history lesson on world war 11, step forward Billy to front of class

Why are you crying Billy? '

would imagine the speech wouldnt be as insensitive as that.

but then again, who knows, why not upset a child who is playing dress up to make a point

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over a year ago

would people have had the same sonsibilities if the child had dressed as emporor Hirohitu or musolini?

thought not

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over a year ago

"would people have had the same sonsibilities if the child had dressed as emporor Hirohitu or musolini?

thought not"

You didn't wait for a reply before answering.

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over a year ago

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right.. "

Whilst I can appreciate that it may be offensive to some, why did the school have a war themed day in the first place if they didn't want the children to dress as the participants? Would it have been ok to have dressed as Bomber Harris who instigated the bombing of Dresden which was a mass slaughter of civilians with little if no effect on the Nazi war effort, or the bombing of dams which is now banned by the Geneva convention...

Personally if I saw a young child walking down the road dressed as Hitler I'd probably piss myself laughing. The school really didn't think there ww2 theme day up properly. Glorifying the act of war by encouraging kids to dress up is not a good thing even if you want them to dress up as the victors.

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over a year ago

"would people have had the same sonsibilities if the child had dressed as emporor Hirohitu or musolini?

thought not

You didn't wait for a reply before answering. "

didnt think i would need to

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over a year ago

was he sent home because it was a crap costume then and he had to announce who he was ? This changes things completely

Well your jokey remark actually makes a point!

The school

Miss - ' now children here u all are for our history lesson on world war 11, step forward Billy to front of class

Why are you crying Billy? '

And would it have been much different had the teacher been german and billy had come in dressed as Churchill?

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over a year ago

"In the intrests of completion here and i am in no way supporting his ideals or political beliefs here.

He was to date the only genuinely elected dictator in human history.

He turned a broken and bankrupt Germany into the most advanced and industrialised nation of its time.

He was the public face of the Nationalist Socialist Party, the animals were Himmler and Goerbels who were directly responsible for the death camps and Storm troopers.

That said, he allowed the attrocities to occur and makes him just as guilty.

Im not saying it did, im well aware of his whole ideology was stemmed from seeing the wealthy jews apparently not affected by the same hardships as the regular german people during his convalesence after being gassed in the trenches during WW1

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over a year ago

"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

My father and grandparents are Polish and there's plenty of Poles living in the UK that will find it somewhat uncomfortable, not to mention Jewish children and their parents.

Learning about Hitler and the holocaust is one thing, a valuable lesson is to be learned from it, but needlessly offending people and allowing children to see it as fun is something else.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"Who says its offensive?

Guess you'd be happy to ignore the german side of war history " think of the children"

of course its offensive..

he was a mass murderer, and not just of Jewish people..

a lot of our soldiers and our allies were murdered in cold blood post capture by the SS and other parts of his fascist regime..

a person can learn totally about History without 'dressing up' as that person..

what sort of parents would think it acceptable to do so..

would it be acceptable for someone to dress up as Hindley, Brady or other child murderers if the topic was about abuse..

course not..

the school are totally right..

did you read that before you posted?

so, you would have a problem with someone dressing up as hindley or brady, but would be ok for the school your children go to to have a dress up day to study abuse?

so, what do we have left to us?

dress up as murder victims?

surely thats in poorer taste than dressing as someone that had a HUGE significance on the shape of the lives we live now, as well as the continent we are mostly involved with.

I did and perhaps I could have worded it better or in more simple terms..

or as it happens you did not read what I said properly as I shall now attempt to explain..

I did not say that I/we would be ok for what you refer to (or would have when they did attend)school in order to study abuse..

to be fair my chosen example was not the best but my general point was as I have stated..

you don't need to dress up as Hitler (other mass murderers equally apply) to study what they did..

your last point is relevant and would agree to a point..

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over a year ago

history is written by the victor, always has been, always will be.

however, to not include the ephigy of hitler, in this instance, simply because it doesnt fit in with the curriculums ideology or even worse, the individuals that choose what our children are allowed to know and not, then we are heading for trouble.

if we ignore history we are destined to repeat it.

we are in Britain, so we take our point of view as fact, however, we would also be in uproar if a school in italy/germany/russia (for the first part at least)banned a child for wearing a churchill costume, so its all about point of view.

still say its very much overkill, but then i didnt understand the furore over the prince harry thing, or the mp dressing up either.

i think its quite ridiculous.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Personally if I saw a young child walking down the road dressed as Hitler I'd probably piss myself laughing. "

humour is an individual thing yes..

but if you had a number tattooed on your wrist or had family who used to have etc, then perhaps you wouldn't find it funny at all..

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Personally if I saw a young child walking down the road dressed as Hitler I'd probably piss myself laughing.

humour is an individual thing yes..

but if you had a number tattooed on your wrist or had family who used to have etc, then perhaps you wouldn't find it funny at all..

no, i agree, you wouldnt find it funny.

but, surely you could appreciate the importance of making sure children know the truth about what sort of person he was, and indeed what the nazi's were all about.

would rather my kids found out about it in class, than in a park somewhere, being spoken to by a right wing nut job, and being indoctrinated because they knew no better

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over a year ago

Glasgow

...........

would rather my kids found out about it in class, than in a park somewhere, being spoken to by a right wing nut job, and being indoctrinated because they knew no better"

You mean 'at home'?

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over a year ago

I think the schools at fault, not the child.

If they wanted happy and nicey they should have chosen a more suitable theme than world war!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"............

Wasn't Darwin's thing about 'natural' selection?

Justified by survival of the fittest. Unbelievably racist man(Darwin) which most people today base their beliefs on. Read up on him. It's shocking."

Not many people survive, fittest or not, when lined up against a wall in the Herengracht and machine-gunned.

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over a year ago

...........

would rather my kids found out about it in class, than in a park somewhere, being spoken to by a right wing nut job, and being indoctrinated because they knew no better

You mean 'at home'?"

my child WOULD know about what hitler was, and was not, as my faterh has a somewhat unhealthy obsession with the second world ward, which is why i would be happy to send them to school dressed as such, because its a topic for debate, not to be swept under the carpet, or put to the back of a cupboard

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Personally if I saw a young child walking down the road dressed as Hitler I'd probably piss myself laughing.

humour is an individual thing yes..

but if you had a number tattooed on your wrist or had family who used to have etc, then perhaps you wouldn't find it funny at all..

no, i agree, you wouldnt find it funny.

but, surely you could appreciate the importance of making sure children know the truth about what sort of person he was, and indeed what the nazi's were all about.

would rather my kids found out about it in class, than in a park somewhere, being spoken to by a right wing nut job, and being indoctrinated because they knew no better"

agree totally that the future generations post these tragedies need to be educated as to what the causes were etc..

sadly post WW2 the lessons have yet to sink in with many..

think you and I are of the same opinion on the teaching, lessons of History etc..

just don't see any need to dress up as one particular tyrant in order to learn anything new, its not necessary..

our kids when they went to primary and secondary covered the 2 'main' wars of last century, both ours have visited the Menin gate, Tyne cot and I made the point of taking them to the German one at Langemark also..

when I went to school in Liverpool I wasn't even taught that part of the wealth of the City was due to the slave trade..

the kids nowadays are better educated on many aspects of History..

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over a year ago

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by any chance has the daily hell ran a story on this yet..

probably pictures of Hitler with some of their owners in some archive..

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over a year ago

Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????

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over a year ago

"Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????"

what the hell has my nationalistic intent got to do with properly debating all sides of history?

dont be so ludicrous

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By *ustyBrunette35Couple
over a year ago

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"Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????

what the hell has my nationalistic intent got to do with properly debating all sides of history?

dont be so ludicrous"

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over a year ago

"Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????"

would you say men cant go out on a stag do dressed as women, cuz otherwise they must be gay?

being fair and openminded is far more important to me than misguided patriotism at the expense of judging history on evidence ad not by 1 sides perception of it

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over a year ago

Really don't see the problem. Surely it would raise a healthy debate with the children about who Hitler was. Then the teachers can inform and educate just what a lunatic he was. Oh and some if the replies on here are hilarious. Which school holds an 'Abuse' theme day lol!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do not forget just because you are offended by something it does not give you any rights at all.

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

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The Sun says it is a step too far by the school.I didn't know we had so many people on here who agreed with that paper's stance. Blimey eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

There are political parties with etremley facist views and policies, and I imaging any one supporting such a party would love to dress their kids up as hitler.

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over a year ago

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

There are political parties with etremley facist views and policies, and I imaging any one supporting such a party would love to dress their kids up as hitler."

I doubt that very much

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over a year ago

"unfortunately, if you have a dress up day with a theme, you cant expect to only invite the 'good guys'.

star wars theme, how many you reckon would want to be vader?

think of all those on Alderan that would be upset...."

Geek mode

Isn't there only Leia left?

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over a year ago

We have had war themed days at our school and the point of the exercise is to dress as people would dress around that time, things like evacuated children , men in their cloth caps and British soldiers in their uniforms. It's all about showing how people lived and dressed in this country during those times. It's not about the war as such but an introduction to the war. So this boys parents got the wrong end of the stick.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"The Sun says it is a step too far by the school.I didn't know we had so many people on here who agreed with that paper's stance. Blimey eh? "

Yes but I bet there was an 'editorial' conflab whether to include the word 'goose' before step..

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over a year ago

"unfortunately, if you have a dress up day with a theme, you cant expect to only invite the 'good guys'.

star wars theme, how many you reckon would want to be vader?

think of all those on Alderan that would be upset...."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lad in the sun looks more like Charlie Chaplin

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over a year ago

"We have had war themed days at our school and the point of the exercise is to dress as people would dress around that time, things like evacuated children , men in their cloth caps and British soldiers in their uniforms. It's all about showing how people lived and dressed in this country during those times. It's not about the war as such but an introduction to the war. So this boys parents got the wrong end of the stick.

Nazi uniforms ok then?

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over a year ago

Oh sorry 'this country'.

POW then?

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

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"Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????

what the hell has my nationalistic intent got to do with properly debating all sides of history?

dont be so ludicrous

history is history and all sides should be explained.

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over a year ago

"Why on earth you want your child to dress as hittler are you proud to be British????

what the hell has my nationalistic intent got to do with properly debating all sides of history?

dont be so ludicrous

history is history and all sides should be explained."

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over a year ago

"unfortunately, if you have a dress up day with a theme, you cant expect to only invite the 'good guys'.

star wars theme, how many you reckon would want to be vader?

think of all those on Alderan that would be upset....

Geek mode

Isn't there only Leia left?"

although it wasnt in the film, i cant think that, for a space going race, that every single occupant of the planet was there at that time.

if it was ok for Leia to be elsewhere then i can only assume others werent on the planet too. lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am Jewish

Yes it is offensive

No I don't blame the child

BUT

What sort of parents consider it appropriate to dress a child as a replica of a man who systematically murdered 6. Million people???

I'm all for remembering the costs of war to both sides but please have some respect

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over a year ago

In my day, our schools never pissed about with "dressing up" days, we had propa edukshun.

Mind you, had they had a WW2 day, i'd have probably gone with a Bismark.

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over a year ago

Personally if I saw a young child walking down the road dressed as Hitler I'd probably piss myself laughing.

humour is an individual thing yes..

but if you had a number tattooed on your wrist or had family who used to have etc, then perhaps you wouldn't find it funny at all..

Hence why the first line of my post stated

"Whilst I can appreciate that it may be offensive to some"

And ended with

"Glorifying the act of war by encouraging kids to dress up is not a good thing even if you want them to dress up as the victors."

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over a year ago

If you're offended, it's your own fault for being damn offended in the first place, you empower the thing that offends you.

Secondly, if you don't understand why the school didn't let the child dress as hitler you're just trying to be smart, it's clearly obvious why you wouldn't want your child dressed as Hitler.

Dressing and Learning about Adolf are two different things, stop being idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!

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over a year ago

"I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!"

Now you're just being silly.

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over a year ago

"If you're offended, it's your own fault for being damn offended in the first place, you empower the thing that offends you.

Secondly, if you don't understand why the school didn't let the child dress as hitler you're just trying to be smart, it's clearly obvious why you wouldn't want your child dressed as Hitler.

Dressing and Learning about Adolf are two different things, stop being idiots. "

i bow dont to a superior intellect

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I remember Prince Harry causing a storm when he attended a party in a nazi uniform.....what if someone dressed as al queida would that not be just as offensive

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

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In my day, our schools never pissed about with "dressing up" days, we had propa edukshun.

Mind you, had they had a WW2 day, i'd have probably gone with a Bismark.

Then you would fail your history exam considering Otto Von Bismarck, first Chancellor of the United German Empire died in 1890..

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

In my day, our schools never pissed about with "dressing up" days, we had propa edukshun.

Mind you, had they had a WW2 day, i'd have probably gone with a Bismark.

Then you would fail your history exam considering Otto Von Bismarck, first Chancellor of the United German Empire died in 1890..

He could have meant the ship!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!

Now you're just being silly. "

Why, exactly?

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over a year ago

In my day, our schools never pissed about with "dressing up" days, we had propa edukshun.

Mind you, had they had a WW2 day, i'd have probably gone with a Bismark.

Then you would fail your history exam considering Otto Von Bismarck, first Chancellor of the United German Empire died in 1890..

He could have meant the ship!

Or he could have meant the skid marks in his grundies.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

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Ffs he must be the most unsuccessful student,in the history of students.

Even I would have got a couple of a levels by now.

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By *erbMan
over a year ago

SHEFFIELD

I wonder whether in years to come there will be a similar discussion on here about kids dressing as Blair or Bush.

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over a year ago

"I wonder whether in years to come there will be a similar discussion on here about kids dressing as Blair or Bush."

exactly .........or Thatcher or Cromwell or osama or ....................!!!

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I wonder whether in years to come there will be a similar discussion on here about kids dressing as Blair or Bush.

exactly .........or Thatcher or Cromwell or osama or ....................!!!"

What would the uniform be????

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By *erbMan
over a year ago

SHEFFIELD

Least we forget

We shall remember.

If our children aren't educated in such histories, then sadly these things will and are even now, happening again. Look at Syria, Zimbabwe, Darfur...to name but a few.

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By *erbMan
over a year ago

SHEFFIELD

"I wonder whether in years to come there will be a similar discussion on here about kids dressing as Blair or Bush.

exactly .........or Thatcher or Cromwell or osama or ....................!!!

What would the uniform be????"

A suit and tie, coupled with a false smile....Blair style.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

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"I wonder whether in years to come there will be a similar discussion on here about kids dressing as Blair or Bush.

exactly .........or Thatcher or Cromwell or osama or ....................!!!

What would the uniform be????

A suit and tie, coupled with a false smile....Blair style."

It's not exactly a uniform,even the false smile,is only run of the mill political.

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By *erbMan
over a year ago

SHEFFIELD

Valid point :/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are probably one or two subtle differences between Adolf Hitler n Blair, Brown, Cromwell n all the other ridiculous suggestions

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wonder if the next hollywood film on ww2 will have hitler pixilated incase some people get offended by the main character?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!

Now you're just being silly.

Why, exactly?"

Because Thatcher didn't implement the killing of millions and plunge the world into war!!! All she did was make this country a better place to live

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

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"I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!

Now you're just being silly.

Why, exactly?

Because Thatcher didn't implement the killing of millions and plunge the world into war!!! All she did was make this country a better place to live

I'm not even remotely political but I know thatythat is fairly contentious statement right there

As for the Hitler thing. If Prince Harry can't go to a party dressed as a Nazi how can a child go to school as Hitler.

If they were learning about American history could they go dressed as a KKK member?

You don't have to dress as part of history to learn about it. Should they so experience concentration camp type situations to understand what happened?

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over a year ago

"I only hope that Thatcher costumes are banned too!!

Now you're just being silly.

Why, exactly?

Because Thatcher didn't implemenit the killing of millions and plunge the world into war!!! All she did was make this country a better place to live

I'm not even remotely political but I know thatythat is fairly contentious statement right there

As for the Hitler thing. If Prince Harry can't go to a party dressed as a Nazi how can a child go to school as Hitler.

If they were learning about American history could they go dressed as a KKK member?

You don't have to dress as part of history to learn about it. Should they so experience concentration camp type situations to understand what happened? "

A child CANNOT go to school dressed as Hitler and one might seriously question parents who think it's a fun idea to dress a child up like him. Same applies kkk and any other offensive demonizing person/organizations from history with a similar track record of such overwhelming obscenity. Some posters have opined that we shouldn't be sensitive - that is a flippant stance to take where someone is bedecked to emulate a brutal purveyor of tyranny. Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi was particularly insensitive when one remembers the royal family has very strong German connections thro generations of inter marrying their German cousins etc and the very real fact Harry's great great uncle (who would have been king) was pro Hitler and if the war had gone 'the other way ' we would now b living in a country of a very different ilk!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if the next hollywood film on ww2 will have hitler pixilated incase some people get offended by the main character? "

That's just ridiculous. No one has said that we shouldn't be teaching children about Hitler, the Nazis or the holocaust. The objection is that dressing a child (or anyone for that matter) as him is in very poor taste and is offensive to a huge part of society. There are still plenty of people alive today that were directly affected by the events of WWII and we owe it to them not to make light of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess the whole thing boils down to the 'having the freedom to...'.

What people tend to forget is that it encompasses also the freedom NOT to...

To barge through your life and others' without any knowledge, good sense, compassion, just because you CAN, is sad and pathetic to say the least.

To dress your child up as AH is not a crime as such, but it's a pretty loud testament to your ignorance (in the Webster sense of the word

), selfishness, disrespect of others' feelings, and worst of all to your disinterest to educate and equip your child in the most basic ways to allow it to function in a socially acceptable manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film

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over a year ago

"maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film"

I'll accept your suggestion that the child selected the idea from viewing a film! In that case one would hope the moral fibre of any responsible parents would b to sit that child down n explain why the choice would b reprehensible - young children cannot b expected to know the full extent of Hitler's atrocities (to his own people as well as the 'mongrels ') but an adult should have enough savvy about such recent history to know thereasons it is objectionable

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

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if at school they do about american history how will they start that then?.

will it be the cowboys who are the baddies and to be edited out so kids cant be dressed as cowboys?,or the native american(the red indian)trying to protect his native land from the european invaders?.

just who would be in the final edit there after the lefty politically correct loony lefties get the say?.

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over a year ago

"maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film

ah yes, because its very easy for parents to tell their kids they can have what they want.

im not a parent and even i know a lot of the time thats fantasy thinking.

shit, i know kids that have been batman or spiderman from the moment they wake up, to sleep time, so if a kid wants dress up, they get it.

to politisize a childs whims is no more insulting as the outfit possibly was

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over a year ago

"if at school they do about american history how will they start that then?.

just who would be in the final edit there after the lefty politically correct loony lefties get the say?.

Well that comment is just patent nonsense because it infers there is a school of thought that considers Hitler was a good guy being denigrated by history. I appreciate there are probably people out there who hold that view - holocaustdeniers , conspiracy theorists etc etc but I think most rational people can look at the facts of the man's career to draw sensible rational conclusions. Cowboys n Indians, although, another dreadful episode in the ascent of man is hardly in the league of dressing your child up as Hitler

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over a year ago

"if at school they do about american history how will they start that then?.

just who would be in the final edit there after the lefty politically correct loony lefties get the say?.

yeah, even i cant defend that lol.

there really is no comparison between hitler and indians.

who invaded hitlers homeland and took his home? oh thats right, no one, it was the other way round lol

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over a year ago

"maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film

ah yes, because its very easy for parents to tell their kids they can have what they want.

im not a parent and even i know a lot of the time thats fantasy thinking.

shit, i know kids that have been batman or spiderman from the moment they wake up, to sleep time, so if a kid wants dress up, they get it.

to politisize a childs whims is no more insulting as the outfit possibly was"

Batman n Spiderman are fantasy comic book heroes so no one takes offence at kids emulating them - so long as they are made aware not to throw themselves out of upper floor Windows expecting to fly etc. A child spending all day imagining they are Hitler is probably a child in need of psychiatric help!

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

but the "cowboys" invaded another country and killed an awful lot of the locals!,much the same was as hitler killed where ever he invaded did he not?.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

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" ......

BNP members, Daily Mail readers, 1922 group members, Quentin Letts ....... the list goes on.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Dress them up as a normal person. Then when people ask who they are tell them they are a serial murderer 'because they look like everyone else'.

(With thanks to the Addams Family)

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Apparently kids can't dress as hitler in a school day about ww2

Talk about erasing part of history.can't ignore the bloke who caused it."

I'm so astonished at this I hardly know what to say.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

What I do disagree with is the kid who got suspended for shaving his head for Macmillan.

There was a protest outside his school but the school said it had a policy of no shaven heads so they had to expel him!!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Children don't get expelled anymore. It was probably a fixed term exclusion unless he had a long record of poor behaviour then he could have been put on a managed move to another school. Either that or a permanent exclusion and even then the parents can appeal.

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over a year ago

"Apparently kids can't dress as hitler in a school day about ww2

Talk about erasing part of history.can't ignore the bloke who caused it.

I'm so astonished at this I hardly know what to say.

I'm sure you'll think of something

hopefully

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over a year ago

"maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film"

Who's in charge though the parent or the child. ? So if the child asks to go as Hitler as we are led to believe all the parent has to say is no and explain why.

If the sulks or throws a tantrum so be it , send them to their room or the naughty step until they behave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I remember Prince Harry causing a storm when he attended a party in a nazi uniform.....what if someone dressed as al queida would that not be just as offensive "

Didn't Russell Brand attend a TV function dressed like that ? I believe he got well and truly slated.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

" Apparently kids can't dress as hitler in a school day about ww2

Talk about erasing part of history.can't ignore the bloke who caused it.

I'm so astonished at this I hardly know what to say.

I'm sure you'll think of something

hopefully

Nope. Not getting drawn into this one.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"What I do disagree with is the kid who got suspended for shaving his head for Macmillan.

There was a protest outside his school but the school said it had a policy of no shaven heads so they had to expel him!!"

If the school has a no shaven heads policy, it'll be written down somewhere parents can read it (assuming they can read).

All to often parents seem to think the rules, however stupid they might seem, only apply to other people.

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over a year ago

As I'm on my phone at work I've just skipped to the end so sorry if this has already been said.

The guy was a fricking genius to whip up a country to follow exactly what he wanted...we need a prime minister just like that.

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over a year ago

"As I'm on my phone at work I've just skipped to the end so sorry if this has already been said.

The guy was a fricking genius to whip up a country to follow exactly what he wanted...we need a prime minister just like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freddy Star got away with doing it on telly !!"

So did the Black & White Minstrels. Shall we send a white kid to school all blacked up with a curly wig on to sing Mammy is assembly and see if that offends anyone ?

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over a year ago

"What I do disagree with is the kid who got suspended for shaving his head for Macmillan.

There was a protest outside his school but the school said it had a policy of no shaven heads so they had to expel him!!"

So, if its the schools policy of no shaven heads, what is there to disagree about? The child shaved his head knowing the policy, and was therefor summarilly disciplined. Nothing to disagree about in my eyes tbh!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"As I'm on my phone at work I've just skipped to the end so sorry if this has already been said.

The guy was a fricking genius to whip up a country to follow exactly what he wanted...we need a prime minister just like that.

on so many levels you are so wrong..

but then you possibly already know that in posting the above..

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over a year ago

"As I'm on my phone at work I've just skipped to the end so sorry if this has already been said.

The guy was a fricking genius to whip up a country to follow exactly what he wanted...we need a prime minister just like that.

Dear o dear. My gob has well and truly been smacked.

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"maybe we should be getting the parents done for child abuse, as many on here make it sound like he was forced to go as hitler.

no chance they watched a film to get ideas, and the child CHOSE that character from the film

ah yes, because its very easy for parents to tell their kids they can have what they want.

im not a parent and even i know a lot of the time thats fantasy thinking.

shit, i know kids that have been batman or spiderman from the moment they wake up, to sleep time, so if a kid wants dress up, they get it.

to politisize a childs whims is no more insulting as the outfit possibly was

again, because of your family past, you are looking way too much into it.

its a kid in a fancy dress costume (to him) the same as batman or spiderman (which, btw, every superhero has, to some degree or another, latent schitzophrenic tendancies, so lets not start on kids emulating the mentally disturbed lol)

im almost certain this child wasnt sat in class saying they should invade maths and social sciences and send everyone that does woodwork to concentration camps.......

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"As I'm on my phone at work I've just skipped to the end so sorry if this has already been said.

The guy was a fricking genius to whip up a country to follow exactly what he wanted...we need a prime minister just like that.

i am sincerely hoping the poster means we need a prime minister that can get everyone hanging off theri every word, and not one that would happily lead us down the route of what hitler stood for, otherwise im actually going to back away from this thread right now........even i shook my head at this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Programme onMore4 NOW - part 1 of 2 for anyone who may need any further persuasion cos I've pretty much failed with it here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that some light hearted saturday night viewing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that some light hearted saturday night viewing?

From some posts I've read on this thread I imagine to some people it possibly will be

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over a year ago

"People still know/remember personally those who suffered at the hands of the Nazi regime, none of us ever knew anyone who suffered at the hands of Bonaparte's Grande Armee.

Also, whilst Caesar, Charlemagne, Bonaparte etc all wanted economic and political control of Europe none espoused a model of racial purity that called for the destruction of an entire race of people.

Wasn't Darwin's thing about 'natural' selection?Justified by survival of the fittest. Unbelievably racist man(Darwin) which most people today base their beliefs on. Read up on him. It's shocking."

So you would CHOOSE to invalidate the theory of evolution and survival of the fittest? A theory that is not ONLY right, but correct, because of the guy who basically made it popular?

You're an idiot.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

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im almost certain this child wasnt sat in class saying they should invade maths and social sciences and send everyone that does woodwork to concentration camps......."

exactly right!,but some here just look for something a lot deeper so they can have their own say on things,just let the kids play for gods sake!.

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over a year ago

im almost certain this child wasnt sat in class saying they should invade maths and social sciences and send everyone that does woodwork to concentration camps.......

exactly right!,but some here just look for something a lot deeper so they can have their own say on things,just let the kids play for gods sake!."

' LET THE KIDS PLAY ' ????????R

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

im almost certain this child wasnt sat in class saying they should invade maths and social sciences and send everyone that does woodwork to concentration camps.......

exactly right!,but some here just look for something a lot deeper so they can have their own say on things,just let the kids play for gods sake!.

' LET THE KIDS PLAY ' ????????R

YES YOU CAN READ THEN?.

yes!,let the young kids play in whatever they want to wear!.

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