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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

There is little doubt that science and the future well being of humans requires that we experiment on live subjects , ie animals

This on many levels is wrong would it not be better to experiment on willing humans or killer humans ?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

We do experiment on willing humans. You can get some good cash testing drugs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say use serial killers and pedos in prison

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I say use serial killers and pedos in prison "

not a good idea with the levels of std's and drug addiction's..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say use serial killers and pedos in prison "

Didn't the Nazis already do that?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I say use serial killers and pedos in prison

Didn't the Nazis already do that? "

They didn't stop there though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt if we would have many volunteers queuing to test a new drug entity with unknown side effects and has not been tested on animal subjects first, no matter how big the financial reward!

What happened in Northwick Park with TGN1412 in 2006 still makes me shrudder to this day, and the dose administered to the first lot of human subjects was way below what was found to be safe in animals!

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"There is little doubt that science and the future well being of humans requires that we experiment on live subjects , ie animals

This on many levels is wrong would it not be better to experiment on willing humans or killer humans ?"
NO.

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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

I'm also suggesting surgical procedures

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick


"I'm also suggesting surgical procedures"

Would you volunteer?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'm also suggesting surgical procedures"
No.Despite what so many think, Humans are above animals circle of life, so no, no, and no again.

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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago

Bridgwater - Somerset


"I doubt if we would have many volunteers queuing to test a new drug entity with unknown side effects and has not been tested on animal subjects first, no matter how big the financial reward!

What happened in Northwick Park with TGN1412 in 2006 still makes me shrudder to this day, and the dose administered to the first lot of human subjects was way below what was found to be safe in animals!

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Surely the lesson from this episode was how little animal testing tells us? We are not rats, beagles or quite the same as monkeys.

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes defo on "humans" instead

Not poor innocent animals

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Yes defo on "humans" instead

Not poor innocent animals "

and children..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm also suggesting surgical procedures"

Not the kind of proposals you'd expect from a taoist.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Yes defo on "humans" instead

Not poor innocent animals "
Wow....animals are as important as humans? Which humans would you test them on? Your Gran? Your Mother? Your brother/ What about yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes defo on "humans" instead

Not poor innocent animals Wow....animals are as important as humans? Which humans would you test them on? Your Gran? Your Mother? Your brother/ What about yourself?"

Animals are very important, we love our beef, lamb, chicken, pork, fish etc, the biggest question is ..... fried, grilled or roasted

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Yes defo on "humans" instead

Not poor innocent animals Wow....animals are as important as humans? Which humans would you test them on? Your Gran? Your Mother? Your brother/ What about yourself?

Animals are very important, we love our beef, lamb, chicken, pork, fish etc, the biggest question is ..... fried, grilled or roasted "
I agree....

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

Its already happening ,,

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those little green men from outer space are doing it,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say use serial killers and pedos in prison

not a good idea with the levels of std's and drug addiction's.. "

I'm sure all the highly qualified clever people involved would think of pre-screening any and all potential subjects beforehand. This science after all :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Test on kittens!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We do experiment on willing humans. You can get some good cash testing drugs."

How much would I get for testing Horse Tranquilizer?..you know...just to make sure it fully kills them?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I doubt if we would have many volunteers queuing to test a new drug entity with unknown side effects and has not been tested on animal subjects first, no matter how big the financial reward!

What happened in Northwick Park with TGN1412 in 2006 still makes me shrudder to this day, and the dose administered to the first lot of human subjects was way below what was found to be safe in animals!

Surely the lesson from this episode was how little animal testing tells us? We are not rats, beagles or quite the same as monkeys. "

.

What alternative would you suggest? How about putting yourself forward as a volunteer?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Despite what so many think, Humans are above animals circle of life, so no, no, and no again."

I disagree we only think we are because we can speak, write and use tools but the way we treat our planet, our fellow men and the other animals we co-inhabit this world with doesn't make us better.

If people decide to act like animals then perhaps in that case they deserve to be treated like animals seeing we're always so prepared to test on animals?

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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Ok , so for an effective therapy that is used for treating a debilitating form of Parkinsons 150 monkeys were used , to date over 150 000 sufferers have been helped

So even using animals my opinion would be the means were justifiable can't exactly say moral though just as eating meat is justifiable but not moral

So was posing the question , would it be less immoral to experiment on a child rapist than an innocent monkey , would it differ if they volunteered ?

If you were suffering from an incurable condition , perhaps with weeks , months to live , would you , if the opportunity was legal , submit your last days to surgical procedures that most likely would kill you but would indeed help future sufferers

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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Oh two things , I eat meat

I think humans and animals have an equal right to life

That equal right may be no right at all

Us wanting to have more right to life does not philosophicaly equate to us having such right only the facility

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