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By *i 1 Get 1 Free OP Couple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

Following the shambles at Stafford hospital where 1200 people died unnecessary, it's emerged no one, not one person is going to be held accountable.

To put icing on the cake, the former chief Exec has walked away with a £1m pension fund, 6 months salary, and a £400K pay off!!!! what an absolute disgrace.

Some of the findings:

Wards left filthy with blood / discarded needles and used dressings

Patients left unwashed / some left in their beds in filth / nurses ignoring their requests to use the toilet or change their sheets.

Bad management and lack of care is what killed these people, therefore, someone / somewhere should be held accountable.

It's time the word “negligent” was inserted into some senior managements contracts.

I am truly saddened for anyone who suffered, and apparently a great many did, whilst under Martin Yeates watch.

Words fail me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As tragic as this case is you have got to read between the lines here when it comes to culpability. It appears that there was an regime of total indifference from the bottom to the top in this 'hospital' but the problem lies in singling out one person and laying charges at his door. Charges that would have to include manslaughter. There was no way that anyone was ever going to be charged with that as it would cast a shadow across the entire NHS (don't forget: bottom to TOP, and the 'top' is the Minister for Health, Mike O'Brien, whose boss is Secretary of State, the Rt Hon Andy Burnham MP, whose boss is PM Gordon Brown.) Nobody was ever going to be held accountable for the fiasco that was Stafford Hospital.

Quoting from the BBC News website:

Health Secretary Andy Burnham said there could be "no excuses" for the failings.

But he added: "This was ultimately a local failure, but it is vital that we learn the lessons nationally to ensure that it won't happen again - we expect everyone in the NHS to read the report and act on it."

~ It's clear from that statement that he's trying to deflect criticism of the wider NHS and blame local inadequacies for Mid Staffs shortcomings. If that is so, then somebody local should be held culpable for what happened there. But I bet you nobody ever will.

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By *i 1 Get 1 Free OP Couple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

Hello wishy

"But he added: "This was ultimately a local failure"

Oh, that'll be the same local failure that Shipman was under

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hello wishy

But he added: "This was ultimately a local failure

Oh, that'll be the same local failure that Shipman was under

and those that died later when it happened in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Harold Shipman was probably the worst serial killer the world has yet discovered.

He was "credited" with some 255 murders, and it is thought he may have killed up to 400 people.

He was a lone GP so was working without supervision or peers. This allowed him to go about his business unchecked.

A vast majority of his victims were vulnerable, elderly women living alone.

Despite calls for police investigations he was allowed to go on and kill three more people.

This was a failing of the whole medical system and the policies and procedures for supwervising lone GP's, it was a failing in the police investigation and a failing in the coroner's office neglecting to carry out thorough investigations into the cause of death. It was a national, not just a local issue. This evil man exploited the failings to carry out the worst killing spree in history.

Harold Shipman worked alone, and is solely responsible for the deaths of all these people. It is therefore, i think, wrong to liken the failings at Stafford Hospital to this one man killing spree. Most hospitals try to maintain decent standards of care and most NHS staff carry out their jobs diligently and with not enough recognition for the work that they do.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

These super-hospitals have grown so large as to be unmanagable St James's in Leeds is a prime example. Capable of any procedure covering the whole gamut of fields, this leviathon is a disaster waiting to happen. Not to mention a prime target for terrorists.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Following the shambles at Stafford hospital where 1200 people died unnecessary, it's emerged no one, not one person is going to be held accountable.

To put icing on the cake, the former chief Exec has walked away with a £1m pension fund, 6 months salary, and a £400K pay off!!!! what an absolute disgrace.

Some of the findings:

Wards left filthy with blood / discarded needles and used dressings

Patients left unwashed / some left in their beds in filth / nurses ignoring their requests to use the toilet or change their sheets.

Bad management and lack of care is what killed these people, therefore, someone / somewhere should be held accountable.

It's time the word “negligent” was inserted into some senior managements contracts.

I am truly saddened for anyone who suffered, and apparently a great many did, whilst under Martin Yeates watch.

Words fail me."

I always find it funny that some people get contracts that state if you are no good at your job and we get rid of you then you will get millions of pounds. Now I am not talking about jobs like in the NHS where peoples lives are at risk but if I had really high up job in say an Internet company where I knew if they wanted to get rid of me they would have to give me 3 millions pounds I would be VERY bad at my job. I would make sure they wanted me out lol.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"These super-hospitals have grown so large as to be unmanagable St James's in Leeds is a prime example. Capable of any procedure covering the whole gamut of fields, this leviathon is a disaster waiting to happen. Not to mention a prime target for terrorists.

We are worse off in Liverpool. The royal hospital has the worst death rate in the UK.

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