FabSwingers.com forum: Markets/Traders

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hands up i am totally clueless on this subject so wondering if anyone on here knows where to start

Ive suggested a mini market type thing with local people (not business owners) to set up a stall to sell products they have made (hand crafted wooden items, hand made clothing, hand made toys, cards, xmas stockings, various arts n craft things like cards etc) They are just all talented people that do this as a hobby.

We have had a pub come forward saying we can use the beer garden as the venue (so presuming the have that liabilities insurance etc) but do the individual sellers need some kind of insurance?

Im presuming they dont as people flog stuff at car boots and ive never needed cover. The cake bakers and those wanting to sell jams actually are business's and do have insurance to do one or two markets as well as having the OK from environmental health.

Im not intending on holding a market every week, just have this as a one off.

Does anyone know if people can just turn up with a table and sell home made items (like a car boot) or do i need to get in contact with the council or whoever the authorities are?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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dont know but...

Contact your local council...

They will be able to help you, you may need a street traders licence and those selling food my need basic food safety certs.

contacting your local chamber of commerce and citizens advice would also be good shouts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its alot more complicated to run a market than ppl think. First off you need to buy a licence for the market from your local council. It wont be covered by the land owners.

You then need your own public liability insurance for the event.

You also need to have in place hand wash units if your selling food products and also waste disposal in place (you need to do all of that in advance otherwise you wont get the liscences you need)

All sellers would need their own public and product insurances and also conform to all of the applicable laws etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"dont know but...

Contact your local council...

They will be able to help you, you may need a street traders licence and those selling food my need basic food safety certs.

contacting your local chamber of commerce and citizens advice would also be good shouts. "

Ive tried to google the councils website and nothings come up trumps.. will give them a buzz tomorrow then. Just think it will be a great idea with the community. Had lots of interests so far its just trying to sort out the legalities of it

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

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There are also all sorts of issues surrounding toys and safety so have a word with your local Trading Standards who will keep you right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Its alot more complicated to run a market than ppl think. First off you need to buy a licence for the market from your local council. It wont be covered by the land owners.

You then need your own public liability insurance for the event.

You also need to have in place hand wash units if your selling food products and also waste disposal in place (you need to do all of that in advance otherwise you wont get the liscences you need)

All sellers would need their own public and product insurances and also conform to all of the applicable laws etc.

can now understand why these events dont happen where i live.. sounds expensive lol..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There are also all sorts of issues surrounding toys and safety so have a word with your local Trading Standards who will keep you right."

thank you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it is, i work on markets, have done for years. An example of a 'craft fair' market liscence here is £500 for a 6 month ticket

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"it is, i work on markets, have done for years. An example of a 'craft fair' market liscence here is £500 for a 6 month ticket"

OUCH.. we were only thinking of a one off event. Just to promoted talented local individuals who make stuff in their spare time

How do people who pay £5 for a table at a car boot sale get away with not paying this fee then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it is, i work on markets, have done for years. An example of a 'craft fair' market liscence here is £500 for a 6 month ticket

OUCH.. we were only thinking of a one off event. Just to promoted talented local individuals who make stuff in their spare time

How do people who pay £5 for a table at a car boot sale get away with not paying this fee then? "

You can hold up to 14 one day car boot sales, to sell second hand goods, without a license or planning permission.

To sell new goods, ie a market, you have to get permission from local council, and it wouldn't be allowed within 3 miles of any town with a market charter.

To sell home produced goods, ie crafts, you can hold a craft fair. again limited to 14 days in one venue in any 12 month period.

Public liability and product liability is needed for most if not all sales. either the craft worker ( maker ) can get this, one of the cheapest is National market traders federation, aprox £70 per year.

Alternatively the organiser, can take out an insurance policy for the event, and charge the stall holders their share.

It seems such a good idea to help local crafters out, but doesn't happen , because of the cost and organising.

An alternative is to join the local womens institute, who have WI markets around the country and only charge a small fee for the tables, as a national organisation they have the insurance and required permissions.

Another idea would to be to rent a shop, divide into small spaces ( tables ) and rent the space out to craft workers, and they can take it in turns to man the till.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

wow ty manrider for all that information xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

your very welcome,

oh another idea is to get a casual stall on a local market and sell peoples craft work, charge say 20%, maybe one day a month

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By *yphoon1Man
over a year ago

have u looked online at etsy website? thousands of traders selling their unique wares.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"have u looked online at etsy website? thousands of traders selling their unique wares."

crafters work alone usually and selling via a stall or market is partly social, and partly to get feedback about their products,

For a creative person, it helps to know if people actually like what you make and by listening and talking, it makes such a big difference, on line selling is fantastic for standard goods and specialist goods, but for low priced, handmade items, nothing beats , seeing, touching and smelling

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

in a nutshell this idea came about because i set up one of those 'buy & sell' pages on FBook. Over the past 2yrs its evolved into a real community page and lots of people (all locals) have showcased some of their hidden talents (well until now lol) by the items they hand make.. with so many of these people making things thought it would be a great oppertunity to show case what they do from the comfort of their own homes to the public.

They arent business's just things people make with a bit of spare time. They sell stuff through the page on Facebook, but thought an actual mini market would be a wicked idea. Even if was just a table full of contact details and they each had a book of pictures with what they can produce to order would have been great for them.

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