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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine go off at the slightest thing too but at least I know they work. Don't remove them, they could save your life one day!x

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Don't think you are meant to install them over the cooker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Learn to cook and not burn?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

Stop burning your food?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

On a more serious note - You shouldn't have a smoke detector in a Kitchen it should be a heat detector and make sure it is correctly placed according to the manufacturers instructions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One is by the front door and the other is on the landing .

I am not sure they would save lives as my son slept through it when I set them off with the toaster this morning as we have sort of got used to them .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Probably the best answer would to have more takeaways

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!"

Sounds like they even installed in a draw point. Are they smoke and if they are change them for heat detectors. I also used to find the more expensive ones had less false alarms. Brk and airco usually have loads of info on there web site.

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!"

If they're mains interlinked or controlled by a panel then you should have a heat detector in the kitchen rather than a smoke so that it doesn't get set off by cooking.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

dinner will be ready when the smoke alarm sounds lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!

Sounds like they even installed in a draw point. Are they smoke and if they are change them for heat detectors. I also used to find the more expensive ones had less false alarms. Brk and airco usually have loads of info on there web site. "

I think we had heat ones which was why they were set off by the steam from the shower and bath .

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!

Sounds like they even installed in a draw point. Are they smoke and if they are change them for heat detectors. I also used to find the more expensive ones had less false alarms. Brk and airco usually have loads of info on there web site.

I think we had heat ones which was why they were set off by the steam from the shower and bath .

"

Steam won't set off a heat detector, they're usually triggered at about 80 degrees or by a rapid temp rise. Some optical detectors can be sensitive enough to be set off by steam though.

What make are the detectors?

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!

Sounds like they even installed in a draw point. Are they smoke and if they are change them for heat detectors. I also used to find the more expensive ones had less false alarms. Brk and airco usually have loads of info on there web site.

I think we had heat ones which was why they were set off by the steam from the shower and bath .

"

If you can take them off look at temp set on back. They also do a combined unit which is both smoke and heat. These need both to set them off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dinner will be ready when the smoke alarm sounds lol"

Just fell out of bed laughing

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ours are driving us nuts ..,

They used to go off with steam from a bath or shower and you would have to get through the door pretty smartish before they went off .

We got them changed and now we can only grill, roast , fry and use the toaster with the front and back door and all the windows in the house open which is fine in the summer .

Other than smash them off the ceiling what can we do ?.

They are mains powered sporn of the devil !!!!!

Sounds like they even installed in a draw point. Are they smoke and if they are change them for heat detectors. I also used to find the more expensive ones had less false alarms. Brk and airco usually have loads of info on there web site.

I think we had heat ones which was why they were set off by the steam from the shower and bath .

Steam won't set off a heat detector, they're usually triggered at about 80 degrees or by a rapid temp rise. Some optical detectors can be sensitive enough to be set off by steam though.

What make are the detectors? "

I am on my way to work at the moment , I will have a look when I get home later , thanks for the help guys .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sorry for the delay .

I cannot see a name on them , it just says ionisation smoke alarm and what looks like EI in a box .

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Rectangular

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Rectangular "

Ah, the round ones are dead easy to change, they just slide off the base and you could easily swap the smoke for a heat.

If you take it down is there a little clip in plug with three wires disappearing into the ceiling?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes, they are mains .

Otherwise they would no longer be there but in the land fill somewhere .

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Yes, they are mains .

Otherwise they would no longer be there but in the land fill somewhere ."

Ha ha!

If you can find an EI heat detector it should just be a straight swap and will fit on the existing base, unless they've changed the fly lead for some reason.

Steam shouldn't be setting off an ionisation detector though, it's usually optical ones that have that problem.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Cheers for that .

Nice one .

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By *urvywelshCouple
over a year ago

Everywhere and nowhere baby

I use mine instead of a dinner gong

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes , same here except it also announces that the toast is ready etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Phone your local fire bridge (the station number is fine to call) tell them the issues that you're having and ask for a fire safety check, they will book you an appointment and come out, check your property for potential fire hazards, inform you of your best escape route and replace your alarms.

It only takes around 15-20mins

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Not read the whole thread so question may have already been answered. Where have you located them?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

One is by the front door and one is on the landing .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should install a heat detector in the kitchen and smoke detector in the hall. They fall under the building regulations. BS5839 will provide more information.

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"One is by the front door and one is on the landing ."

The one on the landing. Is it right outside the bathroom door?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No.

It's a three bedroom house but not vast .

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

One aspect you haven't mentioned is how old the detector heads and your system are?

Older detector heads can be set off by a variety of causes - steam, smoke, heat, dust accumulation, even insects!

Modern ones are far more sophisticated and if linked to an alarm panel, can differentiate between smoke, dust, steam etc in a matter of split seconds and respond accordingly.

We've just had a new, latest state of the art system installed at our work and our alarm activations have dropped dramatically.

Sounds like you need to have a heat detector installed in your Kitchen, but with as high a heat setting as possible.

Or else, get Gordon Ramsay in to show you how to cook safely!

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Try opening the detector and hoovering it out.

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