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Compulsory Microchipping, good or bad?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Very soon it will be compulsory for every puppy born to be micro chipped, and owners to keep records up to date, with a £500 fine if your dog isn't micro chipped.

the dogs will be checked every vet visit and randomly by council dog wardens.

I personally think this is a great idea, and will help stop unwanted dogs being bred and ending up in the incinerator at dog shelters.

Micro chipping can cost as little as £5 to £10 and is available at larger pet stores and for those on a low income free at PDSA.

I predict it will eventually be applied to humans as well, better than an identity card, will help security, safety, underage drinking etc,

At shops, bars, clubs, you just get scanned when you purchase or enter, help the government and businesses focus services where needed.

I think George Orwell predicted this, but just got timing wrong.

All your health and medical details, available in case of accident, a very efficient way of keeping us safe.

What are your thoughts as to benefits to micro chipping ?

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Very soon it will be compulsory for every puppy born to be micro chipped, and owners to keep records up to date, with a £500 fine if your dog isn't micro chipped.

the dogs will be checked every vet visit and randomly by council dog wardens.

I personally think this is a great idea, and will help stop unwanted dogs being bred and ending up in the incinerator at dog shelters.

Micro chipping can cost as little as £5 to £10 and is available at larger pet stores and for those on a low income free at PDSA.

I predict it will eventually be applied to humans as well, better than an identity card, will help security, safety, underage drinking etc,

At shops, bars, clubs, you just get scanned when you purchase or enter, help the government and businesses focus services where needed.

I think George Orwell predicted this, but just got timing wrong.

All your health and medical details, available in case of accident, a very efficient way of keeping us safe.

What are your thoughts as to benefits to micro chipping ?"

I was very active in campaigning for dogs to be chipped besides other laws regarding the dangerous dog act. It a start but responsible dog ownership will probably be a on going battle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a great idea but irresponsible people won't bother, or try not to. It's those that cause the problems.

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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago

Bridgwater - Somerset

Dogs yes, people no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

we are all animals, whats the difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it shouldnt stop at pets for some people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't advocate the human side unless voluntary. But I do wonder why we chip our pets yet don't even think about it for our kids

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By *ild Bill Thickcock.Man
over a year ago

Wet Beaver Creek

Many boarding kennels here in SW will not take in a dog if it isn't chipped. Personally I think it's a good idea.

Chipping people might become compulsary in the future but perhaps not in our life times.

A persons Human Rights will take preference over any compulsion

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

We don't need to be microchipped - we already have smartphones.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

If you have a supermarket loyalty card or a company car you don't need to be microchipped anyway we are tracked and under surveillance in more ways than we know anyway.

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By *aveandkate35Couple
over a year ago

telford


"We don't need to be microchipped - we already have smartphones. "

Too true - the amount of data already collected and known about us all is huge, and it's only going to get bigger.

D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous

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By *ild Bill Thickcock.Man
over a year ago

Wet Beaver Creek


"If you have a supermarket loyalty card or a company car you don't need to be microchipped anyway we are tracked and under surveillance in more ways than we know anyway."

My company vehicle has a tracker fitted so they always know where my car is. They can't track me once I've parked it and got out though

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous"

the difference is with a micro chip the dogs owner can be traced, and held accountable for the dogs behaviour, its about responsible ownership and accountability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a good idea. My cat (I know), she is microchipped, was a condition of her adoption

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"If you have a supermarket loyalty card or a company car you don't need to be microchipped anyway we are tracked and under surveillance in more ways than we know anyway.

My company vehicle has a tracker fitted so they always know where my car is. They can't track me once I've parked it and got out though"

You have a company mobile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

animals yes humans no

I wouldn't ever have anything like that in my body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a good idea. My cat (I know), she is microchipped, was a condition of her adoption"

have her parents told her yet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It will also help stop overbreeding and un licensed breeding, dog breeders are limited to the numbers of litters they can produce each year, because they will have to have all puppies micro chipped, this will show on registration and kennel club and insurance records.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"I don't advocate the human side unless voluntary. But I do wonder why we chip our pets yet don't even think about it for our kids"

Just buy them a mobile and superglue the power button and battery in, one cheap tracker. Better buy pay as you go too

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By *ild Bill Thickcock.Man
over a year ago

Wet Beaver Creek


"If you have a supermarket loyalty card or a company car you don't need to be microchipped anyway we are tracked and under surveillance in more ways than we know anyway.

My company vehicle has a tracker fitted so they always know where my car is. They can't track me once I've parked it and got out though

You have a company mobile "

I leave it in the car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous

the difference is with a micro chip the dogs owner can be traced, and held accountable for the dogs behaviour, its about responsible ownership and accountability."

The problem with all such schemes is that the responsible owners will get their pets chipped

Whereas the irresponsible ones will not and its the irresponsible ones who need their pets chipping most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think its a brill idea...... my dog got taken two days before my appointment to have her chipped, that was four years ago and i've never seen her since

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Very soon it will be compulsory for every puppy born to be micro chipped, and owners to keep records up to date, with a £500 fine if your dog isn't micro chipped.

the dogs will be checked every vet visit and randomly by council dog wardens.

I personally think this is a great idea, and will help stop unwanted dogs being bred and ending up in the incinerator at dog shelters.

Micro chipping can cost as little as £5 to £10 and is available at larger pet stores and for those on a low income free at PDSA.

I predict it will eventually be applied to humans as well, better than an identity card, will help security, safety, underage drinking etc,

At shops, bars, clubs, you just get scanned when you purchase or enter, help the government and businesses focus services where needed.

I think George Orwell predicted this, but just got timing wrong.

All your health and medical details, available in case of accident, a very efficient way of keeping us safe.

What are your thoughts as to benefits to micro chipping ?"

micro chipping for animals good

Micro chipping for humans bad ...for so many human rights and civil liberty reasons

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"animals yes humans no

I wouldn't ever have anything like that in my body "

you already buy and eat genetically modified food, food with antibiotics in and insecticides, so a chip the size of a grain of rice, wont hurt.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

Absolutely a great idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dogs/pets yeah I don't see any problem.

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

We said no to the biometric ID cards, so the chips won't get far

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"If you have a supermarket loyalty card or a company car you don't need to be microchipped anyway we are tracked and under surveillance in more ways than we know anyway.

My company vehicle has a tracker fitted so they always know where my car is. They can't track me once I've parked it and got out though"

Minor Planet?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

..........."

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

theres bit of a difference form what I eat to been data-tagged lol no chance!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were."

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?"

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why would you not have your dog micro chipped?

I have a greyhound which someone stole off my garden when he was 6 months old, they sold him, the new owner took him to the vets who scanned him and found he was chipped, if you take a dog to the vet's who is chipped and registered to someone else they have to call up the registered owner and confirm the change of owner, which the vet did, I told him I had had my dog stolen and was reported to the police, the vets held him for me till I went to collect with proof of who I was, without micro chipping I would have never got my dog back and my dog would have been on the race tracks now, the best £15 I ever spent, any dog can get lost etc surely you would get them chipped so you have a chance of getting them back even if its not a legal requirement?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Actually, if you put them in everyone, you'd be able to tell who's speeding, for example.

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract

my 2 have been done my cross breed came from a rescue centre so he was done when i got him and my cocker was done when she was a puppy .

and as they both have doggy passports this is a requirement of that xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get."

if we were chipped at birth, I am sure there would be very little crime, even if you had a bad thought, you could be zapped 1

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By *ir and ElieCouple
over a year ago

oldbury

I got my beautiful Springer cocker cross puppy last sat by sat evening he was chipped. I'm not taking the risk of someone stealing him or him getting lost and not being returned to me. I'm definitely pro microchipping animals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get."

Sorry dude but that sounds like such a bad idea. So say you get charged with disturbing the peace or d*unk and disorderly , is it right that you should get tagged?

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I predict it will eventually be applied to humans as well, better than an identity card, will help security, safety, underage drinking etc,

At shops, bars, clubs, you just get scanned when you purchase or enter, help the government and businesses focus services where needed.

I think George Orwell predicted this."

Both you and George Orwell are in illustrious company as this was prophesised in detail by St John the Divine in the Book of the Apocalypse (The Revelation) circa 90 AD.

I should have known that it would come to pass in the modern era due to the demands of shoppers who wish to shop in safety.

You'll be interested to know that according to this New Covenant prophecy the number you will receive shall be in your right hand or forehead and that it is the mark of the beast whose number is - you guessed it - 666.

Hope you enjoy your shopping experience today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It will also help stop overbreeding and un licensed breeding, dog breeders are limited to the numbers of litters they can produce each year, because they will have to have all puppies micro chipped, this will show on registration and kennel club and insurance records."

Don't get how you work this bit out. Yes licenced and reputable breeders would do as most already do. They are not the ones that over breed the ones that already puppy farm will not be affected by the new law also anyone can chip a dog so no record of original breeder.

Yes it's a step in the right direction. It will help reduce stray/lost dogs although I'm pretty sure dogs in public should already have an I'd tag (control of dogs order 1992)

Also chips do fail would you still be held accountable ?

Like I say it's a good step but much more could and should be done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get.

Sorry dude but that sounds like such a bad idea. So say you get charged with disturbing the peace or d*unk and disorderly , is it right that you should get tagged?"

A crime is a crime however petty it may seem to some!

Billy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok weird thought just popped into my head. If humans were chipped, if we were having fun inflagrante, could we be found out?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It will also help stop overbreeding and un licensed breeding, dog breeders are limited to the numbers of litters they can produce each year, because they will have to have all puppies micro chipped, this will show on registration and kennel club and insurance records.

Don't get how you work this bit out. Yes licenced and reputable breeders would do as most already do. They are not the ones that over breed the ones that already puppy farm will not be affected by the new law also anyone can chip a dog so no record of original breeder.

Yes it's a step in the right direction. It will help reduce stray/lost dogs although I'm pretty sure dogs in public should already have an I'd tag (control of dogs order 1992)

Also chips do fail would you still be held accountable ?

Like I say it's a good step but much more could and should be done "
the puppy farm, if breeder would have to micro chip the puppy, and when registering dog with kennel club, reg number would have to correspond to the bitch being used, so a check on number of litters would be in place.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get.

Sorry dude but that sounds like such a bad idea. So say you get charged with disturbing the peace or d*unk and disorderly , is it right that you should get tagged?"

Why not? BTW, I'm not talking about 'tagging' as in a device around your ankle for a certain length of time.

Chipping would be implanted 24x7 forever.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Dogs yes, people no.

"

think you might have that the wrong way round

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It will also help stop overbreeding and un licensed breeding, dog breeders are limited to the numbers of litters they can produce each year, because they will have to have all puppies micro chipped, this will show on registration and kennel club and insurance records.

Don't get how you work this bit out. Yes licenced and reputable breeders would do as most already do. They are not the ones that over breed the ones that already puppy farm will not be affected by the new law also anyone can chip a dog so no record of original breeder.

Yes it's a step in the right direction. It will help reduce stray/lost dogs although I'm pretty sure dogs in public should already have an I'd tag (control of dogs order 1992)

Also chips do fail would you still be held accountable ?

Like I say it's a good step but much more could and should be done the puppy farm, if breeder would have to micro chip the puppy, and when registering dog with kennel club, reg number would have to correspond to the bitch being used, so a check on number of litters would be in place.

"

Only If they are genuine papers and only if they are registered. A dodgy breeder is a dodgy breeder they break the laws as it is this will not stop that same as pet passport system so easy to get around

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" .......

Humans however, I think is a bad idea. Seems very orwellian and we don't need chips implanted at all/ever.

...........

Not even criminals? Imagine always knowing where they were.

ALL criminals? Even someone who's committed a petty crime?

Why not? The more chips we buy the cheaper they get.

Sorry dude but that sounds like such a bad idea. So say you get charged with disturbing the peace or d*unk and disorderly , is it right that you should get tagged?

Why not? BTW, I'm not talking about 'tagging' as in a device around your ankle for a certain length of time.

Chipping would be implanted 24x7 forever."

I know, that's what I meant.

What if you do something, one small crime in your teens, should you still be chipped at 35?

Also, I'd rather not have something implanted that the government says (won't happen) that I have to. Who's to say that the government won't use it to track you? To read your blood/alcohol level remotely?

One step closer to nwo

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"..............

What if you do something, one small crime in your teens, should you still be chipped at 35? "

Yes.


" Also, I'd rather not have something implanted that the government says (won't happen) that I have to. Who's to say that the government won't use it to track you? To read your blood/alcohol level remotely?

One step closer to nwo"

That's the attraction. People would rather not have them implanted with a chip and would think twice about committing crime in the first place.

The purpose is to be able to track you. To know where you were at any given time. You'd no longer be able to claim you were in bed, asleep, alone when the chip reckons you were in the local branch of the HSBC whilst it was being robbed.

Blood/ alcohol readings may have to wait for the new, improved chip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I predict it will eventually be applied to humans as well, better than an identity card, will help security, safety, underage drinking etc,

At shops, bars, clubs, you just get scanned when you purchase or enter, help the government and businesses focus services where needed.

I think George Orwell predicted this.

Both you and George Orwell are in illustrious company as this was prophesised in detail by St John the Divine in the Book of the Apocalypse (The Revelation) circa 90 AD.

I should have known that it would come to pass in the modern era due to the demands of shoppers who wish to shop in safety.

You'll be interested to know that according to this New Covenant prophecy the number you will receive shall be in your right hand or forehead and that it is the mark of the beast whose number is - you guessed it - 666.

Hope you enjoy your shopping experience today "

Wasn't the number of the beast actually found to be 616?

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"

Wasn't the number of the beast actually found to be 616?"

Yes....But we are of The Omen generation and 666 just sounds so much better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"..............

What if you do something, one small crime in your teens, should you still be chipped at 35?

Yes.

Also, I'd rather not have something implanted that the government says (won't happen) that I have to. Who's to say that the government won't use it to track you? To read your blood/alcohol level remotely?

One step closer to nwo

That's the attraction. People would rather not have them implanted with a chip and would think twice about committing crime in the first place.

The purpose is to be able to track you. To know where you were at any given time. You'd no longer be able to claim you were in bed, asleep, alone when the chip reckons you were in the local branch of the HSBC whilst it was being robbed.

Blood/ alcohol readings may have to wait for the new, improved chip."

So you'd be ok with being tracked 24/7? Is it not enough we have shitloads of cctv? Chipping would force us to be obedient to the laws.

You never done anything illegal then?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"............

So you'd be ok with being tracked 24/7? Is it not enough we have shitloads of cctv?

Chipping would force us to be obedient to the laws.

You never done anything illegal then?"

Oppressive as it may sound, obeying the laws is pretty much the norm for people (at least in the rest of the country, I dunno about Rotherham).

Confessing to a crime is frowned on on Fab so I'll just say .......

Have I been caught? Do I look sound stupid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah,,, well I’m kinda against any plan that holds comparisons to the Nazis tattooing identification numbers on people ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"............

So you'd be ok with being tracked 24/7? Is it not enough we have shitloads of cctv?

Chipping would force us to be obedient to the laws.

You never done anything illegal then?

Oppressive as it may sound, obeying the laws is pretty much the norm for people (at least in the rest of the country, I dunno about Rotherham).

Confessing to a crime is frowned on on Fab so I'll just say .......

Have I been caught? Do I look sound stupid?"

What I'm talking about it stuff like downloading a film off a torrent site, copying a dvd. Most people do it.

My point is you shouldn't have to fear having a chip put in you for doing such a thing.

It'll never happen anyways. There'll be uproar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah,,, well I’m kinda against any plan that holds comparisons to the Nazis tattooing identification numbers on people .... "

Glad someone else thought this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yeah,,, well I’m kinda against any plan that holds comparisons to the Nazis tattooing identification numbers on people ....

Glad someone else thought this "

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".............

What I'm talking about it stuff like downloading a film off a torrent site, copying a dvd. Most people do it.

My point is you shouldn't have to fear having a chip put in you for doing such a thing. "

Actually, I haven't. I wouldn't know how.

I might be wrong but aren't the examples you've given civil offences rather than crimes - unless you're doing it for sale?


" It'll never happen anyways. There'll be uproar"

Is the correct answer!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".............

What I'm talking about it stuff like downloading a film off a torrent site, copying a dvd. Most people do it.

My point is you shouldn't have to fear having a chip put in you for doing such a thing.

Actually, I haven't. I wouldn't know how.

I might be wrong but aren't the examples you've given civil offences rather than crimes - unless you're doing it for sale?

It'll never happen anyways. There'll be uproar

Is the correct answer!"

Or you download a load of films without an anonymous browser and get caught. It "funds terrorism" don't ya know?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

And the ironic thing is that pirated videos don't waste your time with the copyright warning.

Talk about preaching to the choir.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

the dogs will be checked every vet visit and randomly by council dog wardens."

The dog warden can fuck off as far as I am concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

both my dogs were chipped as pups and vet checks they are working as routine when they have there jabs once a year

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"It'll never happen anyways. There'll be uproar

Is the correct answer!"

There will be microchip implants with banking details in a future cashless society to facilitate transactions for those who love money & merchandising.

It will be set up so that you cannot buy nor sell without one.

This will by default stamp out "crime" (lol) & ensure you get in line in every area of your life.

Enjoy your shopping experience

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"................

There will be microchip implants with banking details in a future cashless society to facilitate transactions for those who love money & merchandising.

..........."

That's not so very far from contactless payment. but it's a long way from being able to locate an individual's location from an implanted chip.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

no more black economy, the state will know where you are working, what tax to expect, The DHSS will benefit from cheaters, all in all it has to be a win win deal

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"no more black economy, the state will know where you are working, what tax to expect, The DHSS will benefit from cheaters, all in all it has to be a win win deal "

.............. and, you could identify criminals chipped by other countries who've snuck (is that a word?) into the UK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

snuck is a very sexy word

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By *ammyjayneWoman
over a year ago

hull

The chips will do nothing to help dogs. They will still be stolen but they just won't be taken to vets so they will suffer. And puppies will still be over breed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous

the difference is with a micro chip the dogs owner can be traced, and held accountable for the dogs behaviour, its about responsible ownership and accountability."

That's fair enough, but what I'm trying to say is, it's not going to prevent anything, the dog has still attacked, I'd be interested to know how many dogs have attacked and the owner has not been found

And who's enforcing this? I barely see police on the streets as it is. Are they going to start walking around with a scanner and checking the dogs?

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"That's not so very far from contactless payment. but it's a long way from being able to locate an individual's location from an implanted chip."

They don't care where you are or what you're doing except that you cannot transact without your chip - which will tell them where & when anyway

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over a year ago


"I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous

the difference is with a micro chip the dogs owner can be traced, and held accountable for the dogs behaviour, its about responsible ownership and accountability.

That's fair enough, but what I'm trying to say is, it's not going to prevent anything, the dog has still attacked, I'd be interested to know how many dogs have attacked and the owner has not been found

And who's enforcing this? I barely see police on the streets as it is. Are they going to start walking around with a scanner and checking the dogs?"

if a dog did attack, there is every chance it would be destroyed, then the chip could be used, it wont stop the attack, but will stop an irresponsible person from being allowed to have a dog again, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. ( or ignorant owners)

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Since May last year, councils have new powers, my local council.

can fine you,

£500

for dog fouling ( not cleared up)

not having a lead

no identity tag ( filled in properly, ie, post code, your surname and house number.)

any dog that frightens someone, not bites but frightens.

maximum of dogs a single person can walk is 4, unless person has a license for more.

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"no more black economy, the state will know where you are working, what tax to expect, The DHSS will benefit from cheaters, all in all it has to be a win win deal "

You have learned to love your serfdom.

But will you worship the beast??

PS here's the answer : DON'T

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had my dog micro chipped simply because of his breed (grayhound, lurcher, bedlington terrier) pikeys would happily take a breed such as his

On the other end of the scale, I don't see how that chip would stop him attacking somebody should he ever choose to

Micro chips won't make dogs less dangerous

the difference is with a micro chip the dogs owner can be traced, and held accountable for the dogs behaviour, its about responsible ownership and accountability.

That's fair enough, but what I'm trying to say is, it's not going to prevent anything, the dog has still attacked, I'd be interested to know how many dogs have attacked and the owner has not been found

And who's enforcing this? I barely see police on the streets as it is. Are they going to start walking around with a scanner and checking the dogs?

if a dog did attack, there is every chance it would be destroyed, then the chip could be used, it wont stop the attack, but will stop an irresponsible person from being allowed to have a dog again, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. ( or ignorant owners)"

It won't stop anything, they can just get another dog and not chip it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch the price of chipping go up next year in your local vets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

any dog that frightens someone, not bites but frightens.

"
Really? That's a new one to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

any dog that frightens someone, not bites but frightens.

Really? That's a new one to me "

It's a bit more complex than that and has been around for a few years now

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

Hopefully they will take DNA from the dog as well, and can trace from the dog shit who the owners is who allows their dog to shit all over pavements. Then they can slap them with big fines.

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