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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

just going on from the 'when didy ou pass your test' thread.

should there be a limit on how many tests you take?

surely people taking 10 tests or so just cant get the hang of it.

i get the nerves argument, but surely dealing with nerves would serve people better than wasting their money taking loads of tests hoping not to be nervous

anyway, thats the question, whould there be a limit on tests taken?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

No!

Just think of all the driving instructors, and examiners that owe their living to the terminally incompetent learner!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have thought for some time that, after maybe 5 tests, there ought to be some kind of in-depth assessment to determine whether someone has even the most basic aptitude for driving. Since the car first appeared on the roads, no one has ever been tested (to the best of my knowledge) to see if they have the aptitude to control something which is capable of killing them - and a considerable number of others...

ted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No... I don't believe there should!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it's their money and if they want to throw it away that's their choice

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Three maximum sounds about right, with a minimum number of hours instruction before taking the next one.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Took me 10 times first three never went with instructor just my dad when i went with instructor he could never understand how i kept failing combination of nerves poor examiners and knowing how to drive but not how to past test

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know people who took multiple attempts to pass their test and they are now exceptional drivers, I also know a few who passed first time and are absolutely lethal! The driving test isn't really a true representation of a person's skill behind the wheel, it just tests their ability to grasp the basics and put them into practice on a given day. I always say its just a preparation to actually learning to drive because you really do earn your stripes after a couple of years rather than driving around with L-plates on with everyone knowing full well you're inexperienced...

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By *upitersmileCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

No, it's like any test or exam. Often people crumble under the pressure and its a confidence issue. You put that same person in the situation with no pressure and they would most likely walk it. My instructor wanted me to take my test several months before I did it. I wouldn't as I knew if I made one small mistake I would have panicked and cocked it up. I did the right thing as when I did take it I passed with just 2 minors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, but I think there should be a retest every so often..

I say that now, but know I've got so many awful habits now... That I would struggle to take my test again now. Because once you pass your test you rarely drive how your taught too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No there shouldn't be. I passed first time but the mrs didn't pass till her 4th attempt. Guess who has had 3 crashes and who hasn't had any.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

maybe its time to get rid of the test all together then and have a new system based on assessment over time rather than a final exam.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So rather than prompting perseverance and determination this would say don't bother you have tried and failed

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive, and putting limitations like this in place would remove that right from people, shame for those that struggle but as said once they have gone through the test most become quite competent drivers.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh


"So rather than prompting perseverance and determination this would say don't bother you have tried and failed

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive, and putting limitations like this in place would remove that right from people, shame for those that struggle but as said once they have gone through the test most become quite competent drivers. "
not sure driving is a right

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London


"So rather than prompting perseverance and determination this would say don't bother you have tried and failed

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive, and putting limitations like this in place would remove that right from people, shame for those that struggle but as said once they have gone through the test most become quite competent drivers. "

Including people who are senile or are epileptic ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No!

Just think of all the driving instructors, and examiners that owe their living to the terminally incompetent learner! "
you become an incompetent drive after you have passed your test.bet if i put you in my driving school car and done a mock test with you,you would fail miserably

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive "

Wrong, very wrong. If it was a right you wouldn't need a licence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive

Wrong, very wrong. If it was a right you wouldn't need a licence."

this seems to be the attitude though.

as long as you can afford it (and in a lot of cases of young drivers and stupidly high insurance costs, some that cant) some DO see it as a right.

surely, if you have a job and you cant get the 'knack' of it, would you expect the boss to persevere with your inability to do it correctly, or would you expect them to find someone who can.

not the best example, but you can appreciate the comparison.

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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)

I took multiple attempts to pass my test, passing on the 13th time. I struggled with nerves, being put for my test too soon, and the fact that that was over a 10 year period (oh and one I failed for not showing - I got my days confused and arrived on the wrong day)

I also hated driving and was pushed into it when I was younger (10 tests were over 4 yrs aged 17 to 21) and I just hated it. I would be so stressed that I'd come out of the car after a lesson unwell, headachey, sweats and shakes - but was being pushed to learn as it "would look good on a cv" I failed again at 23 - head just wasn't in it, due to loads of external factors, and then when I was 27 took 2 tests, failed the first time on my maneuvers, and passed my 13th test.

I'm a fairly decent driver now - the only accident I have had was someone else crashing into me!

Limits would have meant that I could not live where I do now, and would seriously impede my life (we live in a small rural town)

I do wonder if 17 is a good age to learn to do something so serious tho.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend


"So rather than prompting perseverance and determination this would say don't bother you have tried and failed

Fact is EVERYONE has a right to drive, and putting limitations like this in place would remove that right from people, shame for those that struggle but as said once they have gone through the test most become quite competent drivers.

Including people who are senile or are epileptic ?"

I'm epileptic and perfectly capable and able to drive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny you lot are,

So you are saying if you do not pass your test in a set number of lessons you are incapable and lose the option to learn

Love it, illegal and discriminatory but a funny concept

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I took multiple attempts to pass my test, passing on the 13th time. I struggled with nerves, being put for my test too soon, and the fact that that was over a 10 year period (oh and one I failed for not showing - I got my days confused and arrived on the wrong day)

I also hated driving and was pushed into it when I was younger (10 tests were over 4 yrs aged 17 to 21) and I just hated it. I would be so stressed that I'd come out of the car after a lesson unwell, headachey, sweats and shakes - but was being pushed to learn as it "would look good on a cv" I failed again at 23 - head just wasn't in it, due to loads of external factors, and then when I was 27 took 2 tests, failed the first time on my maneuvers, and passed my 13th test.

I'm a fairly decent driver now - the only accident I have had was someone else crashing into me!

Limits would have meant that I could not live where I do now, and would seriously impede my life (we live in a small rural town)

I do wonder if 17 is a good age to learn to do something so serious tho."

hence i suggested that maybe it should be judged over a longer period than just a 45 minute drive around, much like coursework at school.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I took multiple attempts to pass my test, passing on the 13th time. I struggled with nerves, being put for my test too soon, and the fact that that was over a 10 year period (oh and one I failed for not showing - I got my days confused and arrived on the wrong day)

I also hated driving and was pushed into it when I was younger (10 tests were over 4 yrs aged 17 to 21) and I just hated it. I would be so stressed that I'd come out of the car after a lesson unwell, headachey, sweats and shakes - but was being pushed to learn as it "would look good on a cv" I failed again at 23 - head just wasn't in it, due to loads of external factors, and then when I was 27 took 2 tests, failed the first time on my maneuvers, and passed my 13th test.

I'm a fairly decent driver now - the only accident I have had was someone else crashing into me!

Limits would have meant that I could not live where I do now, and would seriously impede my life (we live in a small rural town)

I do wonder if 17 is a good age to learn to do something so serious tho.

hence i suggested that maybe it should be judged over a longer period than just a 45 minute drive around, much like coursework at school."
its judged on approx 50 hrs of tuition.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I took multiple attempts to pass my test, passing on the 13th time. I struggled with nerves, being put for my test too soon, and the fact that that was over a 10 year period (oh and one I failed for not showing - I got my days confused and arrived on the wrong day)

I also hated driving and was pushed into it when I was younger (10 tests were over 4 yrs aged 17 to 21) and I just hated it. I would be so stressed that I'd come out of the car after a lesson unwell, headachey, sweats and shakes - but was being pushed to learn as it "would look good on a cv" I failed again at 23 - head just wasn't in it, due to loads of external factors, and then when I was 27 took 2 tests, failed the first time on my maneuvers, and passed my 13th test.

I'm a fairly decent driver now - the only accident I have had was someone else crashing into me!

Limits would have meant that I could not live where I do now, and would seriously impede my life (we live in a small rural town)

I do wonder if 17 is a good age to learn to do something so serious tho.

hence i suggested that maybe it should be judged over a longer period than just a 45 minute drive around, much like coursework at school.its judged on approx 50 hrs of tuition."

not always.

i passed after 5 lessons, but thats not really the point.

its judged on 45 minutes after however many lessons you have, whether 5 or 500.

you could be perfectly competent before your test, and i would hope so otherwise your instructor would be wasting your money, but some just cant deal with the nerves/stress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No limits lol ....after 10 you should just get a licence for sheer neck lol

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

As I posted on the other thread, I passed both car & bike tests first time in 1981, but road conditions have changed dramatically over the years and I think the test should too.

Driving around the middle of a metropolis is a world away from pottering round a sleepy village to the local town to pick up a few groceries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I passed first time including theory test, yes I'm that young lol, I had in total 13 lessions that do to starting to leanrning then stopping then having a block of 10 and using 1 to hire the car for test. I actual test was only for 30 mins tops. But I do think there sould be more than one test or a different system in place, cause you only really need to drive well for a short time ti pass you test.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Funny you lot are,

So you are saying if you do not pass your test in a set number of lessons you are incapable and lose the option to learn

Love it, illegal and discriminatory but a funny concept "

How is it illegal? And I believe we are talking number of tests, not lessons.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"No!

Just think of all the driving instructors, and examiners that owe their living to the terminally incompetent learner! you become an incompetent drive after you have passed your test.bet if i put you in my driving school car and done a mock test with you,you would fail miserably

"
Really?

Well I guess I better surrender my RAC national restricted rally licence, My ACU clubman licence, and my IAM car and motercycle membership not to mention my C+E driving licence because you are qualified to train someone to reach THE MINIMUM STANDARD REQUIRED to hold a full UK driving licence and thus are qualified to say I am an incompetent driver without knowing me, my driving history or standard.

And before you answer you may like to take a quick look at the how long have you been driving thread and see exactly how much driving experience I have.

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