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"Na we dont smell Its the smoke that does lol xx " LOL.... love it | |||
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"someone told me they smell, what do you think " Smoking seems to be a recurring theme in your posts | |||
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"i smoke menthol fags so i can fuck my lungs up and freshen my breath at the same time " Gotta be fooking menthol to smoke them. | |||
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"ffs hope bonky dont see this thread he will be writing an essay lol" Where is he today ?? Romantic day out no doubt xx | |||
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"Someone once told me all non-smokers are uptight stress freaks who have nothing better to do in their life than complain about smokers, because now pubs don’t smell of smoke other people can smell their B.O. and no one will socialise with them… but I think it’s a myth. " | |||
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"I heard the biggest problem with smokers is they believe the smell hides their smell of BO etc, and so believe by smoking they don't need to wash, hence the smell becoming worse that it need be. " Have you tried dropping subtle hints to Colleen, that usually works | |||
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"I heard the biggest problem with smokers is they believe the smell hides their smell of BO etc, and so believe by smoking they don't need to wash, hence the smell becoming worse that it need be. Have you tried dropping subtle hints to Colleen, that usually works " Yeah, my post was one hint. | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. " So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice" You're correct, it's personal choice, very similar to the fat thread we discussed the other day, all down to personal choice | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. The evidence is there, if you choose to ignore it thats your choice. Smokers choose to smoke, I choose not to, but that also means if I go into a pub or club I should not have to inhale smoke. Sure, you could say dont go into these places, but thats a bit childish isnt it? The law doesnt say to you, because you smoke you aren't allowed to go to pubs or clubs, it just says dont smoke inside. Do you really want to force those who choose not to smoke to inhale?" u wouldnt be inhalin in a pub or club if smokers are outside ?? either that or u got some seriously good contenders for breath holdin competitions down there!!! xx | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice You're correct, it's personal choice, very similar to the fat thread we discussed the other day, all down to personal choice " Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. we need a shit stirring smiley | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? " Sometimes, and even then not much. Again, its personal choice, if I was stood next to you drinking, would it have any impact on you at all? | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? Sometimes, and even then not much. Again, its personal choice, if I was stood next to you drinking, would it have any impact on you at all?" Yes... I'd have to smoke more fags, to pay more tax, to pay for your health care | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. The evidence is there, if you choose to ignore it thats your choice. Smokers choose to smoke, I choose not to, but that also means if I go into a pub or club I should not have to inhale smoke. Sure, you could say dont go into these places, but thats a bit childish isnt it? The law doesnt say to you, because you smoke you aren't allowed to go to pubs or clubs, it just says dont smoke inside. Do you really want to force those who choose not to smoke to inhale? u wouldnt be inhalin in a pub or club if smokers are outside ?? either that or u got some seriously good contenders for breath holdin competitions down there!!! xx " I would be inhaling if smokers had not been moved outside, thats my point. | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. " True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? Sometimes, and even then not much. Again, its personal choice, if I was stood next to you drinking, would it have any impact on you at all? Yes... I'd have to smoke more fags, to pay more tax, to pay for your health care " My healthcare? You are labouring under the false understanding perpetuated by the smoking lobby that all the tax you pay goes into the NHS and outweighs the cost of caring for all the smoking related diseases. Not true. If that really was the case, do you really think that the Govt would spend millions encouraging people to give up? Doesnt really add up, does it? | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! " Give smokers what they want. They pay over £11 billion in taxes per year. What about all those idiots that have unprotected sex......... get pregnant (and think of the amount of money shiped out in benefits), get an STI or worse...... get HIV..... Surely they are a bigger drain on the NHS than the smokers and I'm dam sure they ain't even paying VAT on condoms. | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? Sometimes, and even then not much. Again, its personal choice, if I was stood next to you drinking, would it have any impact on you at all? Yes... I'd have to smoke more fags, to pay more tax, to pay for your health care My healthcare? You are labouring under the false understanding perpetuated by the smoking lobby that all the tax you pay goes into the NHS and outweighs the cost of caring for all the smoking related diseases. Not true. If that really was the case, do you really think that the Govt would spend millions encouraging people to give up? Doesnt really add up, does it?" If everyone gave up..... where would the Govt get the £11 billion shortfall which is currently paid in taxes by smokers? | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it?" And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. The evidence is there, if you choose to ignore it thats your choice. Smokers choose to smoke, I choose not to, but that also means if I go into a pub or club I should not have to inhale smoke. Sure, you could say dont go into these places, but thats a bit childish isnt it? The law doesnt say to you, because you smoke you aren't allowed to go to pubs or clubs, it just says dont smoke inside. Do you really want to force those who choose not to smoke to inhale? u wouldnt be inhalin in a pub or club if smokers are outside ?? either that or u got some seriously good contenders for breath holdin competitions down there!!! xx I would be inhaling if smokers had not been moved outside, thats my point." but your no so what you moanin about??? your inside nice and warm they outside frozen pollutin the air its a winnin situation for u!! xx | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! " But, smokers don't just affect smokers in a health way, but those around them, unlike over eaters. This is getting serious now isn't it. I have no problem with either, fatties or smokers, I can just argue any point, and do. | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! But, smokers don't just affect smokers in a health way, but those around them, unlike over eaters. This is getting serious now isn't it. I have no problem with either, fatties or smokers, I can just argue any point, and do. " you forgot the worst offender of them all wayne, alcohol | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! But, smokers don't just affect smokers in a health way, but those around them, unlike over eaters. This is getting serious now isn't it. I have no problem with either, fatties or smokers, I can just argue any point, and do. you forgot the worst offender of them all wayne, alcohol" I didn't forget, I was sticking to the subject in hand running with Bi 1. He commented on over eaters, so I took the pee. | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it? And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical " So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Its perfectly ok to alter your choices as you go along, but it does smack of desperation and the "any holes a goal" theory when ya moaning like crap about smokers and their smell. | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it? And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Its perfectly ok to alter your choices as you go along, but it does smack of desperation and the "any holes a goal" theory when ya moaning like crap about smokers and their smell." I assumed the OP was having a chuckle with this thread rather than having a go for real. | |||
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"This is getting serious now isn't it" I try not to do serious stuff on here this is for fun I do serious stuff elsewhere | |||
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"This is getting serious now isn't it I try not to do serious stuff on here this is for fun I do serious stuff elsewhere " oh do tell. Let's get this topic back on the pee taking track, it's better that way. | |||
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"Slow suicide has never been something I have considered, but its a personal choice. So you don't drink when you go into a pub then? Sometimes, and even then not much. Again, its personal choice, if I was stood next to you drinking, would it have any impact on you at all? Yes... I'd have to smoke more fags, to pay more tax, to pay for your health care My healthcare? You are labouring under the false understanding perpetuated by the smoking lobby that all the tax you pay goes into the NHS and outweighs the cost of caring for all the smoking related diseases. Not true. If that really was the case, do you really think that the Govt would spend millions encouraging people to give up? Doesnt really add up, does it?" Actually (if I can manage to take this seriously for one moment) stats on how much smokers cost the NHS are severely flawed and misleading, they will include people purely because they smoke rather than after proving the illness was truly caused by smoking. I’d type more detail but I need to get smoking in case you go out for a drink this week. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! " Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt | |||
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"someone give me a light please. I'm gasping here " I'll give you one | |||
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"So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Yes " Again, the made me thin the OP wasn't serious. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang drinkers bang caught a dose bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! " lmao | |||
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"So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Yes Again, the made me thin the OP wasn't serious. " Think, I meant think, that wasn't a dig at chubsters. | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! Give smokers what they want. They pay over £11 billion in taxes per year. What about all those idiots that have unprotected sex......... get pregnant (and think of the amount of money shiped out in benefits), get an STI or worse...... get HIV..... Surely they are a bigger drain on the NHS than the smokers and I'm dam sure they ain't even paying VAT on condoms." About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt " sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx | |||
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"Well all i can say is our local pub (i live in a village)is hilarious lol Cause pretty much all of the customers stand outside smoking and the pubs bloody empty Irony or what xx " Well I don't smoke but went to a wedding not long ago and stood outside most of the night with all the smokers as I was the only one sat at our table when they all went out for a smoke ! The people were very generous though when they saw I didn't have a ciggy so kept offering me some, Mr R had almost a packet of cigs to smoke by the end of the night | |||
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" But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy." So the smokers that you will meet either don't exist or don't actually smoke then? Utter hypocrisy. If you don't like smokers....... don't socialise or meet with them. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx " And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! | |||
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"I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases" Why do you chose to be the saviour of smokers? if people chose to smoke / drink / shag / whatever, so be it, see, that's the problem we have today, far to many people thinking "They" know what's best for us, just get on with your own life and allow others to live theirs, what's difficult about that? | |||
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"Well all i can say is our local pub (i live in a village)is hilarious lol Cause pretty much all of the customers stand outside smoking and the pubs bloody empty Irony or what xx Well I don't smoke but went to a wedding not long ago and stood outside most of the night with all the smokers as I was the only one sat at our table when they all went out for a smoke ! The people were very generous though when they saw I didn't have a ciggy so kept offering me some, Mr R had almost a packet of cigs to smoke by the end of the night" You should get yourself into prison… you could trade them for loads of stuff. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! " sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx | |||
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"I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases Why do you chose to be the saviour of smokers? if people chose to smoke / drink / shag / whatever, so be it, see, that's the problem we have today, far to many people thinking "They" know what's best for us, just get on with your own life and allow others to live theirs, what's difficult about that? " I love you two by the way....... xxxxxxxxxxx | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx " Pass us a large voddy will ya cupcake | |||
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"Well all i can say is our local pub (i live in a village)is hilarious lol Cause pretty much all of the customers stand outside smoking and the pubs bloody empty Irony or what xx Well I don't smoke but went to a wedding not long ago and stood outside most of the night with all the smokers as I was the only one sat at our table when they all went out for a smoke ! The people were very generous though when they saw I didn't have a ciggy so kept offering me some, Mr R had almost a packet of cigs to smoke by the end of the night You should get yourself into prison… you could trade them for loads of stuff." I might go but only if it is a mens prison | |||
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"I love you two by the way....... xxxxxxxxxxx Opps - look what you've done now " Get ya kit off...................! | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx Pass us a large voddy will ya cupcake " certainly dear!!! full fat juice or diet?? xx | |||
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"I love you two by the way....... xxxxxxxxxxx Opps - look what you've done now Get ya kit off...................! " What again stop being greedy! | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx Pass us a large voddy will ya cupcake certainly dear!!! full fat juice or diet?? xx " Diet? diet? I'm proud of being a fat, smoking, alkie I'll have ya know...... | |||
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" Well I don't smoke but went to a wedding not long ago and stood outside most of the night with all the smokers as I was the only one sat at our table when they all went out for a smoke ! The people were very generous though when they saw I didn't have a ciggy so kept offering me some, Mr R had almost a packet of cigs to smoke by the end of the night" Funny ya should say that lol cause when the smoking ban was introduced Les had been given up for a year Then she started sitting in the smoking shelter with us all cause there was never anyone in the bloody pub And hey presto she was back on 15 a day How many bloody times has that happened across the country lol The govt released figures the other day that stated a one percent rise in tobacco sales since the ban The friggin idiots have killed the pubs and encouraged smoking and for their next trick lol (and before anyone says clean air yes i agree that smokers should be segregated from those that dont smoke but for fucks sake DONT chuck us out like dogs give us a feckin room ) xx | |||
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"I love you two by the way....... xxxxxxxxxxx Opps - look what you've done now Get ya kit off...................! What again stop being greedy! " Take the socks of this time! | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx Pass us a large voddy will ya cupcake certainly dear!!! full fat juice or diet?? xx Diet? diet? I'm proud of being a fat, smoking, alkie I'll have ya know...... " me too!! would u like some of my deep fried pizza supper?? xx | |||
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" But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. So the smokers that you will meet either don't exist or don't actually smoke then? Utter hypocrisy. If you don't like smokers....... don't socialise or meet with them." You seem to think we rank smokers as something akin to lepers, to be avoided at all costs in case we get "infected". We, however tend to have a more adult view of the world. When we meet socially in pubs, clubs etc, those that smoke do so in designated areas. If we are engaged in conversation with someone, we tend to go with them. If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke, but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated, but again, we might end up out there with them. What I did object to, is going into a pub etc, and being met with a smog of fag smoke, and having no choice about it, unless it was to not go to the pub. That to me was not acceptable. | |||
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"awww shoot the fuckin lot o them then the superior ones can live in superioty!! fat bang smokers bang anythin that someone else doesnt like bang!! there problem solved !!! Oi, thats 3 shots.......... that hurt sorry darling but its for the greater good!!! xx And spanking your arse in a moment will be for the greater good as well young lady! sorry mam i will behave honest!! just give me a min till i light my cig and pour another drink!!!xx Pass us a large voddy will ya cupcake certainly dear!!! full fat juice or diet?? xx Diet? diet? I'm proud of being a fat, smoking, alkie I'll have ya know...... me too!! would u like some of my deep fried pizza supper?? xx " I'll trade you a slice for the large bar of galaxy that I hid from Jason by putting it in the freezer | |||
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" But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. So the smokers that you will meet either don't exist or don't actually smoke then? Utter hypocrisy. If you don't like smokers....... don't socialise or meet with them. You seem to think we rank smokers as something akin to lepers, to be avoided at all costs in case we get "infected". We, however tend to have a more adult view of the world. When we meet socially in pubs, clubs etc, those that smoke do so in designated areas. If we are engaged in conversation with someone, we tend to go with them. If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke, but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated, but again, we might end up out there with them. What I did object to, is going into a pub etc, and being met with a smog of fag smoke, and having no choice about it, unless it was to not go to the pub. That to me was not acceptable." do you drink in the house of commons??? cause its the only place i know of that is exempt from THE SMOKING BAN!!!!!!!!!!! its over you cant smoke in pubs!!! so your moanin for nothin!! unless your in spain a lot where some have opted in or out so you can CHOOSE!!!!!! am away for a fag see if this point sinks in!x | |||
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" But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. So the smokers that you will meet either don't exist or don't actually smoke then? Utter hypocrisy. If you don't like smokers....... don't socialise or meet with them. You seem to think we rank smokers as something akin to lepers, to be avoided at all costs in case we get "infected". We, however tend to have a more adult view of the world. When we meet socially in pubs, clubs etc, those that smoke do so in designated areas. If we are engaged in conversation with someone, we tend to go with them. If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke, but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated, but again, we might end up out there with them. What I did object to, is going into a pub etc, and being met with a smog of fag smoke, and having no choice about it, unless it was to not go to the pub. That to me was not acceptable. do you drink in the house of commons??? cause its the only place i know of that is exempt from THE SMOKING BAN!!!!!!!!!!! its over you cant smoke in pubs!!! so your moanin for nothin!! unless your in spain a lot where some have opted in or out so you can CHOOSE!!!!!! am away for a fag see if this point sinks in!x " "What I did object to,.." past tense. | |||
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"just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy." Yet you state below....... "If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke" so if they do light up, I take it you leave before you play then? ", but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated," Very considerate of them and a question we ask ourselves to non smokers if they visit our home "but again, we might end up out there with them" Breathing in their crappy smoke. | |||
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" But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. So the smokers that you will meet either don't exist or don't actually smoke then? Utter hypocrisy. If you don't like smokers....... don't socialise or meet with them. You seem to think we rank smokers as something akin to lepers, to be avoided at all costs in case we get "infected". We, however tend to have a more adult view of the world. When we meet socially in pubs, clubs etc, those that smoke do so in designated areas. If we are engaged in conversation with someone, we tend to go with them. If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke, but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated, but again, we might end up out there with them. What I did object to, is going into a pub etc, and being met with a smog of fag smoke, and having no choice about it, unless it was to not go to the pub. That to me was not acceptable. do you drink in the house of commons??? cause its the only place i know of that is exempt from THE SMOKING BAN!!!!!!!!!!! its over you cant smoke in pubs!!! so your moanin for nothin!! unless your in spain a lot where some have opted in or out so you can CHOOSE!!!!!! am away for a fag see if this point sinks in!x "What I did object to,.." past tense. " glad you clarified that but its in the past!! so no reason to moan about it now we have moved on as a society!! and it was a good thing i agree with that!! xx | |||
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"One thing I've learnt about smokers, is they're easy to wind up. " We will not be defeated we'll never, never surrender!!! | |||
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"just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy. Yet you state below....... If we meet in someone elses home, we accept that they are free to smoke so if they do light up, I take it you leave before you play then? , but very many have asked if we mind, and many smoke outside, which is very much appreciated, Very considerate of them and a question we ask ourselves to non smokers if they visit our home but again, we might end up out there with them Breathing in their crappy smoke. " Again, we have a choice. Do you live your life by a set of unwavering, set in stone, absolute rules, or do you take each day, each personal interaction, on its own merits, evaluating each with its pros and cons, allowing some "give and take" in each situation? | |||
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"Im not visiting this thread again . they only stuck it here to wind us up so im gonna ignore it now. ner ner " Yay, one clever smoker, is this a first?. | |||
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" Again, we have a choice. Do you live your life by a set of unwavering, set in stone, absolute rules, or do you take each day, each personal interaction, on its own merits, evaluating each with its pros and cons, allowing some "give and take" in each situation?" No we don't...... But then we hate moronic, idiotic arseholes as much as you hate smokers..... Yet we wouldn't knowingly meet one, unlike those that are berating smokers yet are happy to meet them. | |||
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"do you take each day, each personal interaction, on its own merits, evaluating each with its pros and cons, allowing some "give and take" in each situation?" No, we don't view life in that way we don't go looking for trouble, just deal with it if comes our way, although trying to be controversial is always best avoided | |||
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" Again, we have a choice. Do you live your life by a set of unwavering, set in stone, absolute rules, or do you take each day, each personal interaction, on its own merits, evaluating each with its pros and cons, allowing some "give and take" in each situation? No we don't...... But then we hate moronic, idiotic arseholes as much as you hate smokers..... Yet we wouldn't knowingly meet one, unlike those that are berating smokers yet are happy to meet them." "Hate"..... did I say we hate smokers? "Berating".... no, just having an opinion, which happens to be different with yours, which seems to be against the rules. Face it, with our history, we are never going to be buddies, so lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. | |||
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"Alcohol, ciggies, pizza, cupcakes, I'm liking this thread more n more all the time Oooooooooooooooo we've almost got enough for a "smokers" party " I got a big bottle of vodka (I have only had one out it honest) a small bottle of jack (hubby hasnt had any out it yet lol) a few bottles of wine (chilled) left over roses and quality street (from christmas) and a huge big giant bucket of popcorn (hubby bought it for family dvd night which hasnt happened yet) I got lemonade (not diet) coca cola (again not diet) and I might even have a can or 2 of irn brew - what else do I need for the smokers party?? Shona x x x | |||
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"Alcohol, ciggies, pizza, cupcakes, I'm liking this thread more n more all the time Oooooooooooooooo we've almost got enough for a "smokers" party I got a big bottle of vodka (I have only had one out it honest) a small bottle of jack (hubby hasnt had any out it yet lol) a few bottles of wine (chilled) left over roses and quality street (from christmas) and a huge big giant bucket of popcorn (hubby bought it for family dvd night which hasnt happened yet) I got lemonade (not diet) coca cola (again not diet) and I might even have a can or 2 of irn brew - what else do I need for the smokers party?? Shona x x x " US !!!!! whooooooo hoooooooo partaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy !!! | |||
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"Alcohol, ciggies, pizza, cupcakes, I'm liking this thread more n more all the time Oooooooooooooooo we've almost got enough for a "smokers" party I got a big bottle of vodka (I have only had one out it honest) a small bottle of jack (hubby hasnt had any out it yet lol) a few bottles of wine (chilled) left over roses and quality street (from christmas) and a huge big giant bucket of popcorn (hubby bought it for family dvd night which hasnt happened yet) I got lemonade (not diet) coca cola (again not diet) and I might even have a can or 2 of irn brew - what else do I need for the smokers party??" Ya body! | |||
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"Look here Mr Bi 1 I told you before and no doubt I will tell you again - get your sexy bums up here where all the sexy people are - I promise to keep Nom busy so you dont have to deal with his delusions he thinks he is sane you know!!!! " Is plums seedless? | |||
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"Alcohol, ciggies, pizza, cupcakes, I'm liking this thread more n more all the time Oooooooooooooooo we've almost got enough for a "smokers" party I got a big bottle of vodka (I have only had one out it honest) a small bottle of jack (hubby hasnt had any out it yet lol) a few bottles of wine (chilled) left over roses and quality street (from christmas) and a huge big giant bucket of popcorn (hubby bought it for family dvd night which hasnt happened yet) I got lemonade (not diet) coca cola (again not diet) and I might even have a can or 2 of irn brew - what else do I need for the smokers party?? Shona x x x " Me and my 40 marlboro xxxxx | |||
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"About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. ." Can you quantify those figures. Where do you draw the reductions from? Is this imformation freely available and if so, where can it be viewed? | |||
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"About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. . Can you quantify those figures. Where do you draw the reductions from? Is this imformation freely available and if so, where can it be viewed?" yea i wanna see it too lol | |||
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"About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. . Can you quantify those figures. Where do you draw the reductions from? Is this imformation freely available and if so, where can it be viewed?" I think it was taken from someone asking where ex amount of cash would come from if smokers stopped, I think they worked out from that post what you see and have quoted here. I think this because, they don't seem to state their findings as such, but question and mention it's a rough guess. | |||
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"About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. . Can you quantify those figures. Where do you draw the reductions from? Is this imformation freely available and if so, where can it be viewed? I think it was taken from someone asking where ex amount of cash would come from if smokers stopped, I think they worked out from that post what you see and have quoted here. I think this because, they don't seem to state their findings as such, but question and mention it's a rough guess." Well, depends where you look, but basically they say about a third of adults smoke (30 million adults, one third is 10 million), then 11 billion in taxes divided by 10 mil equals about £1000 each in taxes per smoker per year. This divided between 30 million adults is £330 each. The rest is explained in the post. Hope that clears it up. | |||
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"I am failing to understand why I am getting all this flak" You made it personal when you posted this: "Slow suicide has never been something I have considered" You're entitled to your opinion, doesn't mean to say some have to agree or accept it, we found it rather offensive to be honest. | |||
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"Ah, but, fatties don't force food down your throats. True, they don't, but they're a strain on an already stretched NHS, which I might add, they don't contribute to like smokers do. I try not to get involved with the anti smoking brigade, all I'll say is give them what they want, once the start having to pay higher taxes to replace those previously paid by smokers, they'll soon regret shouting from the rooftops! Give smokers what they want. They pay over £11 billion in taxes per year. What about all those idiots that have unprotected sex......... get pregnant (and think of the amount of money shiped out in benefits), get an STI or worse...... get HIV..... Surely they are a bigger drain on the NHS than the smokers and I'm dam sure they ain't even paying VAT on condoms. About £1,000 each a year? I'd happily pay that in extra tax if it meant no-one had to die of smoking related diseases. But then, it would actually only cost me about £330 a year, bearing in mind the amount of tax payers, and that is most definately a price worth paying. Then factor in the increase in taxes paid in from all those who woud actually not be dead, and the savings in NHS costs, and as a rough guess that brings it down to about £160 a year I would have to pay.... cheap when you consider the emotional costs of someone watching a loved one die earlier than neccesary of a smoking related disease. But, as I have said in earlier posts on this thread, its a personal choice, just so long as I dont have to inhale that crap I am happy." So tell me oh mighty one, where does the country come down so hard on people bringing cigerettes back from other countries. Because there loosing out on the tax we pay thats why. So fair enough we all give up smoking and you can then pay the extra taxes. By the way since the smoking ban has come in non smokers are not very high at risk of inhaling smoke so surely those that die from smoke related illness are those that smoke and im sure we are all intelligent enough to know that. Also and this is very true the people in my life ive known that have died of cancer not one smoked, maybe in there early years but certainly not for at least 20 years before they died. Now excuse me while i find my fags | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. " I agree | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it? And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Its perfectly ok to alter your choices as you go along, but it does smack of desperation and the "any holes a goal" theory when ya moaning like crap about smokers and their smell." The OP (Adam) is not desperate honey, hes a wind-up merchant I (Eve) smoke and we meet smokers all the time we actually dont have a problem with smokers but we do have a problem with people that jump to their own conclusions He only asked that he heard that some people think smokers smell lol (tounge in cheek) I object to the any holes a goal remark, We are really rather select in our meets !! | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it? And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Its perfectly ok to alter your choices as you go along, but it does smack of desperation and the "any holes a goal" theory when ya moaning like crap about smokers and their smell. I assumed the OP was having a chuckle with this thread rather than having a go for real. " Well done that man you win a coconut | |||
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"Doesnt really add up, does it? And neither does this: your profile says your willing to meet smokers, if your so “anti” bit hypocritical So does the OP's profile say "will meet smokers" Its perfectly ok to alter your choices as you go along, but it does smack of desperation and the "any holes a goal" theory when ya moaning like crap about smokers and their smell. The OP (Adam) is not desperate honey, hes a wind-up merchant I (Eve) smoke and we meet smokers all the time we actually dont have a problem with smokers but we do have a problem with people that jump to their own conclusions He only asked that he heard that some people think smokers smell lol (tounge in cheek) I object to the any holes a goal remark, We are really rather select in our meets !! " Are you really named Adam and Eve? or is it just a clever choice of names?. | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man" Don't tempt me. | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man Don't tempt me. " No, serioudly do, it's a great debate so long as folk stay polite | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man Don't tempt me. No, serioudly do, it's a great debate so long as folk stay polite " He he we well i said you would write an essay on this | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man Don't tempt me. No, serioudly do, it's a great debate so long as folk stay polite " Bonky..................... Where ya been you old fart? | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man Don't tempt me. No, serioudly do, it's a great debate so long as folk stay polite " That's the problem, people don't. I love a good debate, I will debate with anyone, think I get that from my granddad, lol. The problem lies that people get too passionate about things, instead of thrashing out ideas, they take things personal and even get personal. That's not my thing, I like to take the pee, I like a serious debate, but jeez, have you seen some of the tetchy comments here. Come on people, we are all adults, get a grip, and this coming from me, now aren't you ashamed?. small print, little cheesy green smilies there to sow I'm trying to lighten the mood. | |||
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"We could argue this forever, I am far from being the smartest here, but I could rip every serious post on the subject here so far to bits, both sides of the discussion. Does it really matter? What a crock of shite a lot of this is. We all have different opinions on pretty much every subject. Get over it. Fetch it on young man Don't tempt me. No, serioudly do, it's a great debate so long as folk stay polite That's the problem, people don't. I love a good debate, I will debate with anyone, think I get that from my granddad, lol. The problem lies that people get too passionate about things, instead of thrashing out ideas, they take things personal and even get personal. That's not my thing, I like to take the pee, I like a serious debate, but jeez, have you seen some of the tetchy comments here. Come on people, we are all adults, get a grip, and this coming from me, now aren't you ashamed?. small print, little cheesy green smilies there to sow I'm trying to lighten the mood. " Nope, Smokers get vehemently passionate Non smokers quote undeniable facts which generates apoplexy in smokers | |||
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