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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i live on a fairly quiet road ..got a person who doesnt live on street parking right outside my gate ...half on the street and half on path ...despite numerous times been politely asked just to leave my gate clear so can get pram in and out without me causing any damage to said car ....insists cus he pays road tax he can park where he likes...any advice

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By *lueDevylMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

Hmmm....If he's not leaving you enough room for your pram then it would not be your fault if any damage was to occur would it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contact the police/council as I'm sure it's illegal to park on the footpath, even partially

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

take fotos of the offending car and number plate . time and dated.. not allowed to park on pavement report to police and council wardens.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

SNAP

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By *olfclub999Man
over a year ago

Newport

I had a lovely one when my kids where small and I was unable to get through with the pram. In fortunately the pram clipped his mirror and broke it off...... Oop! Lol I for got to leave any details ..... Oops again lol

The best bit was I worked in the parts dept of the local dealer for his car, and I just happened to serve the guy when he came in to buy a new mirror and it cost him about £80 ..... Oops yet again lol

And of course I was so simpathetic to him when he told his story

I still smile today regarding that some people are so inconsiderate when parking its great to get your own back

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

any advice: don't damage his car

try and council and make a complaint about his blocking your access.

good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you pay road tax and your car is MOT'd and insured you may park anywhere that doesn't cause an obstruction, or a hazard to any other road user, or in restricted areas,

You are not allowed to cause an obstruction, or park on the pavement.

Simply ask the person if he will leave you room to get in and out of your property, if not do as other posters have suggested.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"take fotos of the offending car and number plate . time and dated.. not allowed to park on pavement report to police and council wardens. "

Plus, the beauty is, if you are parked illegally and your car is damaged, no insurance company will pay out for any damage however caused!! I know, I asked a guy to move a few years ago, got told to go f myself, so several of us took pics of his illegally parked car - 2 wheels on the pavement, then I reversed out as carefully as I could, but still took his front bumper off. Police were called and they stood there laughing and telling him tough shit!

I would definitely call the police on 101 and ask them to come and deal with it - every time he does it - he will soon get fed up with them

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"If you pay road tax and your car is MOT'd and insured you may park anywhere that doesn't cause an obstruction, or a hazard to any other road user, or in restricted areas,

You are not allowed to cause an obstruction, or park on the pavement.

Simply ask the person if he will leave you room to get in and out of your property, if not do as other posters have suggested."

This. Always be wary of advice that sounds like it's come from unreasonable vengeful children.

Parking on the side is illegal.

Just say to him ... Hi , If you parked just X feet further up OR if you parked on the road I could get my pram in no problem. Thanks.

Most people are lovely.They just don't know they are blocking you.

If he doesn't respond positively dont' argue with him. Just report.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The footpath shouldn't be obstructed, however if there are no other restrictions on the road, you can ask him to move his car to allow access to your property but after you have gained entry or exit to your property he can then park in the same place again, provided of course he isn't breaking any other parking laws, i.e. yellow lines, bus stop etc. etc. etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

he watch me struggling to get in yesterday with a stroller type pram ...shopping and a sleeping 2 yr old....what annoy me more a psco was stood with him laughing n joking....yes i put a complaint in against pcso mainly cus when i said something to owner he walked off ...

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By *hynottsCouple
over a year ago

nottingham

"Contact the police/council as I'm sure it's illegal to park on the footpath, even partially "

It is had the same problem with a car parking across our drive but police did not want to no . Sorted it out andy towed it out to the no parking main road . On back of the 4x4 parking ticket and flat spots on two tyers . Driver had a go at andy but no prof he did it we get folks who work around here from other

parts of nottingham who will not use the pay car parks

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Ram the fucker with the pram. If people park on pavements they can't whine when their car gets scratched.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"The footpath shouldn't be obstructed, however if there are no other restrictions on the road, you can ask him to move his car to allow access to your property but after you have gained entry or exit to your property he can then park in the same place again, provided of course he isn't breaking any other parking laws, i.e. yellow lines, bus stop etc. etc. etc.

Parking on the pavement is an offence unless it is specifically allowed which would have signs and still leave room to get a buggy/pram past.

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By *homCrownMan
over a year ago

West Fife

Obstructing pavement is an offence under Road Traffic Act. As is parking on road obstructing driveway IF it denies another road user the use of the road, e.g can't get car out of drive. (Latter applies to Scotland and not necessarily E,W & NI)

Strictly speaking no one has a right to park on any road. In the mists of time the purpose of a road was to allow free passage from one place to another without obstruction. However, the introduction of controlled parking and laws to control parking activity has led to an acceptance and the belief in certain individuals that they can abandon their car where they want!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Parking on the pavement is an offence unless it is specifically allowed which would have signs and still leave room to get a buggy/pram past."

he leaves enough room for people and buggies to move past but not enough room for me to get pram in and out of my gate ....

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By *rank_SimoneCouple
over a year ago

Bideford

Let his tyres down .... and stand there laughing when he's changing them one at a time.

Then say bloody kids no where is safe these days lol

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

"Let his tyres down .... and stand there laughing when he's changing them one at a time.

Then say bloody kids no where is safe these days lol"

don't puncture them though, get a valve key and take the valves out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He is blocking an entrance to a properly. what would happen if you need an ambulance or a fire engine. This is why it is illegal to park on the pavement! Well it is not unless there are singe up say so. But it is illegal to drive on the pavement. you cannot park on the pavement with driving on it.

It is illegal to block a drive way in such a manner that it cause an obstruction.

http://www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/Transport/parking/Documents/PDF%20Documents/Obstruction%20Line%20-%20Application.pdf

So if you gate is part of your drive then call the cops or council.

Me I just ignore is car if get damaged as it is in the way is it his problem.

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By *afeSensualGentMan
over a year ago

Reading

And also point out to him there's no such thing as road tax. It's car tax, a tax on cars and other vehicles, not a tax on roads or a fee to use them. Roads are paid for via general and local taxation. It's been this way since 1937.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Drop a load of tacks and pins...by accident of course where he parks and then because your busy with your child,shopping ect forget to clear the mess up.Result...a couple if flat tyres for him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Write rude words on his car using brake fluid. He won't notice until it rains but once it does he'll need a respray to get rid of them!...

Actually you're better off taking photographs which include his number plate, date and time and sending them to the council and give the police a call...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any damage to his car caused deliberately would come under the legislation covering criminal damage no matter how justified you see your actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any damage to his car caused deliberately would come under the legislation covering criminal damage no matter how justified you see your actions.

has to prove who it was first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

take a photo and e-mail to your local traffic wardens office

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its actualy against the law to park on the pavement, try befriending a traffic warden then get him to issue a ticket

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

please do what you have to do the legal way, any damage to his car may just come back to haunt you... I am not sure if you are a lady living alone ( no assumptions ) but there are some silly people out there. Do it the right way and as for people encouraging you from the safety of their internet chair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you have neighbours with cars that could perhaps park almost bumper to bumper with him...show him how frustrating it is when you're being obstructed?!

On a serious note...definitely report it and continue to report it every time he blocks access to your home. Don't intentionally damage his car, but I also wouldn't go out of my way to protect it either as you have asked him politely and he has stood and watched you struggle so he knows the issue he is causing but he is choosing to be an inconsiderate nob

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any damage to his car caused deliberately would come under the legislation covering criminal damage no matter how justified you see your actions.

has to prove who it was first"

Not a great legal defence.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I'm with View on this. Don't break the law (and don't advise others to break the law either).

It WILL come back and bite you on the bum and, whilst there's some Fabsters for whom that counts as desirable physical contact, it's best avoided.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Napalm his car, take your lawnmower to his cock and balls scoop out his eyes with an ice cream scoop, wedge a traffic cone up his ass to the brim and put a contract out on his family. Alternatively you could get heavy with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

parking in front of someones drive the law on this is a little cloudy, here is 2 diff answers i have found

At the moment it is only an offence to block a vehicle from leaving a property not from entering it. If your car were in your driveway and you needed to get to work the offending vehicle can be removed.

The police used to deal with these as obstruction. But this is now covered by The Traffic Management Act 2004 which made it illegal to park next to a dropped kerb.

Exceptions are:

* When you're in a parking space

* When you're parked outside residential premises with the consent of the occupier of the premises -- as long as you're not paying for parking.

* When loading or unloading for 20 minutes or less.

* When undertaking works such as gas and water, or road works.

* When it's an armed forces vehicle -- so a parking a tank across your neighbour's driveway is OK

Double parking is also now illegal -- you've got to be within 50 cm of the kerb. Exceptions are as above, although the law does allow you to stop to allow people in and out of the car.

Fixed penalties could be up to £80 for the offence.

Highway code section 243 (abridged)

DO NOT stop or park

* in front of an entrance to a property

The rules that state DO NOT are not enforceable by law which is why the old obstruction law, and now the traffic management act 2004 come into play.

HOWEVER...

The law is supposed to be changing in the near future.

When it UK Parking Laws – Neighbours Parking on my Drive

16:37 Mon 24th May 2010 The AnswerBank

UK Parking Laws – Neighbours Parking on my Drive

Nuisance Parking

Ever had a neighbour park in front of your drive? It can be a pain when you need to leave the house urgently and repeat incidents can create a lot of friction between you and your neighbour.

Many arguments arise from a lack of ‘parking etiquette’ on the street where you live, but parking etiquette and law are two separate things, so understanding your rights will help you resolve a situation without any bloodshed.

Where do I stand when it comes to neighbours parking in front of my drive?

The law here is quite ‘cloudy’ and can lead to a lot of confusion for motorists and homeowners. Essentially, it is common courtesy to not park in front of someone’s driveway – but, most importantly, it is not illegal.

This is where the battle of etiquette and law comes into full _iew - the Highway Code, paragraph 207, asks that people ‘do not’ park their vehicle where it might cause an obstruction to other pedestrians or road users and cites the example of not parking in front of another person’s driveway. It does not legally state that a person ‘must not’ park in front of another driveway. Therefore, whilst mutual respect between road users tends to dictate a policy of not doing this so as to avoid unnecessary conflict, it’s not backed up by law so if you experience problems with this and your neighbour digs their heels in and refuses to co-operate, all you can then do, if you need guaranteed access and exit, is to park your car elsewhere and not on your driveway.

It really comes down to a matter of common decency. By speaking calmly and politely with your neighbours you can try to resolve the issue without any tempers fraying. Just remember, however, that unless they are breaking the law, people are entitled to park anywhere they want to on a public highway providing they aren’t in breach of the Highway Code. If they are, then you can report that matter to the police if further action needs to be taken.

Motorists parking their cars are not the only ones who must obey the law and regulations. Councils can only make parking regulations (known as “Traffic Regulation Orders” or “Traffic Management Orders”) and enforce parking contraventions in accordance with the law. For example, councils must comply with regulations that say how parking controls are signed.

Under the decriminalised scheme brought in by the Road Traffic Act 1991, when a vehicle is, for example, parked on a yellow line during controlled hours, it is said to be parked ‘in contravention of the regulations’. Thus there are no offences, merely contraventions.

Back to articles listdoes it will be an offence to park across any dropped kerb even your own. You could get a ticket for parking across your own drive, with your own car. The law will not differentiate.

and the 2 answer

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

If he is impeding a public walkway or egress from your property he is committing an offence. Contact local council - take a few pics over a few days to demonstrate that this is a regular occurrence and take his reg down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

parking on pathways another cloudy law

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

Law GL(GP)A sect 15

looks like its is only illegal in London then,

must not and should not are 2 diff things 1 is a law 1 is a request

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

just had one very happy 2 yr old ...had fire engine and police car outside house for last 20 mins ....nothing to do with my cooking before anyone says lol .Turns out the fire bridage was checking out the water points and this car was parked over main point for street so they called police as its obstrustion and can endanger lifes ....just watch it been towed away due to no mot or insurance ....karma is such a wonderful thing !!!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

That is pure class

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

made my day ....had to have a very good perv at some of the firemen .....

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By *eryBigGirlWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Haha love the outcome of this

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"just had one very happy 2 yr old ...had fire engine and police car outside house for last 20 mins ....nothing to do with my cooking before anyone says lol .Turns out the fire bridage was checking out the water points and this car was parked over main point for street so they called police as its obstrustion and can endanger lifes ....just watch it been towed away due to no mot or insurance ....karma is such a wonderful thing !!!"

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Now, what are the chances of that happening?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

app for what i can gather this is 4th car he had towed for no insurance ....cus he was claiming harrassment with the police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"app for what i can gather this is 4th car he had towed for no insurance ....cus he was claiming harrassment with the police "

So if he parks there again, all you need to do is report him to the police for parking on the pavement and covering a fire hydrant and they should attend...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes she is hope you got some photos of it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"app for what i can gather this is 4th car he had towed for no insurance ....cus he was claiming harrassment with the police "

A car has to have insurance or been sowrn end off lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any damage to his car caused deliberately would come under the legislation covering criminal damage no matter how justified you see your actions.

has to prove who it was first

Not a great legal defence."

but it work he has to prove it is you. you do not have to prove it was not.

Any way it is allsorted out now

pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

make him aware that other cars parked in a similar position have been damaged in the past, so might be a good idea to park elsewhere !

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By *taffsfella1Man
over a year ago

Newcastle-under-Lyme

That is just priceless

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