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The art of getting a point across

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto

More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find "bollocks!" can put a point across perfectly sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that people that resort to this way of arguing, often lack the necessary vocabulary, evidence to back up their argument, or have the intelligence to get their point of _iew across without belittling someone else or their point of _iew....oh and did I mention the narrow mindedness to respect others opinions...and you can bet your bottom dollar that most of them wouldn't be so bold face to face......yep. Think that'll do!

That said, I'm always right and if you don't agree with me, you can stick your opinions where the sun don't shine. Morons!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find the silent treatment is also good. The real loons dont shut up even when they cant get a reaction. It's fun to watch them spiral out.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"I think that people that resort to this way of arguing, often lack the necessary vocabulary, evidence to back up their argument, or have the intelligence to get their point of _iew across without belittling someone else or their point of _iew....oh and did I mention the narrow mindedness to respect others opinions...and you can bet your bottom dollar that most of them wouldn't be so bold face to face......yep. Think that'll do!

That said, I'm always right and if you don't agree with me, you can stick your opinions where the sun don't shine. Morons! "

Hahaha, brilliant!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Wit and humour always welcome, even when it's scathing. It is possible to disagree with a post without resorting to denigrating the person posting.

There does seem to be a growing trend for freedom of speech statements to act as a proxy for opinions being presented as facts. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion but you holding that opinion does not automatically turn it into a fact.

My observation of the cyclical, repetitive, arguments of late is that they get stuck on the loop of one persons opinion being challenged as it is being presented as fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pack mentality have been rife on one thread this morning.

I am no angel and often take the piss out of spelling, grammar and double meanings.

But that is different to attacking somebody because they have a different point of _iew. Many on here claim a non vanilla attitude to sex but show themselves to be quite narrow minded

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"The pack mentality have been rife on one thread this morning.

I am no angel and often take the piss out of spelling, grammar and double meanings.

But that is different to attacking somebody because they have a different point of _iew. Many on here claim a non vanilla attitude to sex but show themselves to be quite narrow minded "

I've managed to avoid the pack threads. Apart from the Funky one. I'm am blissfully unaware today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The pack mentality have been rife on one thread this morning.

I am no angel and often take the piss out of spelling, grammar and double meanings.

But that is different to attacking somebody because they have a different point of _iew. Many on here claim a non vanilla attitude to sex but show themselves to be quite narrow minded

I've managed to avoid the pack threads. Apart from the Funky one. I'm am blissfully unaware today."

Same and glad of it!

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

I will only write what I can verbally express, otherwise I will keep quiet!

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

Sometimes I find myself starting a reply and getting through the first sentence and then deleting it. Did it twice on this occasion! lol

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"Sometimes I find myself starting a reply and getting through the first sentence and then deleting it. Did it twice on this occasion! lol"

This is a good way to approach some subjects in my opinion. I myself do this regularly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?"
well I hold my values in life and I am true to myself and will not go down to others just to fit in .

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"The pack mentality have been rife on one thread this morning.

I am no angel and often take the piss out of spelling, grammar and double meanings.

But that is different to attacking somebody because they have a different point of _iew. Many on here claim a non vanilla attitude to sex but show themselves to be quite narrow minded "

Oh bugger, has the pack been unleashed? I'd better try and find some work to do, those threads irk me a bit and I usually can't help but defend the OP who's getting savaged...

Mind you, it's Friday afternoon, what the hell, I'm going pack hunting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I get to the point where im writing and deleting its time to step away from whoever or whatever is getting me so worked up and find something fun to do like perv over my friends or my hotlist

I come in here to enjoy myself

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?well I hold my values in life and I am true to myself and will not go down to others just to fit in . "

Which is fair enough. I wouldn't expect anyone to compromise their values or beliefs. However.....

Stuff like the size or race threads on here especially. You usually see level headed responses. Then you get those who come in thinking they are white knights and say something utterly mind boggling.

It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Then you get those who come in thinking they are white knights and say something utterly mind boggling.

It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a man of few works I find the effort involved in trying to make a salient point rarely provides the sort of self satisfaction you'd expect from attempting to be a right smug bastard,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a man of few works I find the effort involved in trying to make a salient point rarely provides the sort of self satisfaction you'd expect from attempting to be a right smug bastard,,, "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sometimes I find myself starting a reply and getting through the first sentence and then deleting it. Did it twice on this occasion! lol"

This ^^^ repeatedly sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I get to the point where im writing and deleting its time to step away from whoever or whatever is getting me so worked up and find something fun to do like perv over my friends or my hotlist

I come in here to enjoy myself "

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?well I hold my values in life and I am true to myself and will not go down to others just to fit in .

Which is fair enough. I wouldn't expect anyone to compromise their values or beliefs. However.....

Stuff like the size or race threads on here especially. You usually see level headed responses. Then you get those who come in thinking they are white knights and say something utterly mind boggling.

It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift."

Totally agree with this

The people who take this kind of approach probably don't intend to create discord but it so often does and it doesn't make for pleasant reading most of the time. I like a good debate but when a thread descends into an all out 'war of the preferences', that's my cue to back out gracefully and engage myself elsewhere.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?well I hold my values in life and I am true to myself and will not go down to others just to fit in .

Which is fair enough. I wouldn't expect anyone to compromise their values or beliefs. However.....

Stuff like the size or race threads on here especially. You usually see level headed responses. Then you get those who come in thinking they are white knights and say something utterly mind boggling.

It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift."

What is irritating is the way people nit pick a few words in a lengthy post which has been written with thought and puts across a logical reasoned argument. Or the individual is attacked not the argument. And those who do this think that this really is making a cogent argument. I tend to step away at that point - no point keep slamming your head against a brick wall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift."

The main thing though you will notice is people suddenly become sheep, and once one person has expressed their _iew or preference it then becomes obvious who are the sheep and normally to get their leg over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

It is possible to express your preference without putting down the group(s) that fall outside that preference. Same applies to many other topics, but you get my drift.

The main thing though you will notice is people suddenly become sheep, and once one person has expressed their _iew or preference it then becomes obvious who are the sheep and normally to get their leg over. "
lol yes some think safty in numbers . I say it how I feel it and the day I don't is the day I die ,And keep a open mind on others _iews and know we are all different here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But surely if relevant points are not greeted with unchallenged universal approval they arn't really relevant points at all, unless the person making them is arrogant enough to assume that anyone who disagrees must be thick as fuk..

Or meringue???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

being succinct is an art

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"being succinct is an art "

Indeed...

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London


"Sometimes I find myself starting a reply and getting through the first sentence and then deleting it. Did it twice on this occasion! lol"

I really should do this more often. My big gob gets me into trouble sometimes and often my sarcastic humour doesn't come across in the way it was intended.

Ah some of us will never learn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner.

You just have to take a snapshot of these forums to see what i mean. Unless you are deliberately trying to be contrarian, there's always a way to express yourself without totally alienating a whole group or subset of people. and more so, there's always a way to debate a point of _iew without resorting to name calling, etc etc. Just my thoughts on a Friday morning. What do you all think?"

I don't get what you mean ?

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

i always find face to face discussions, where my opinion can be written on a baseball bat and shown to my antagonist are the easiest to resolve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im hope some folk on here like my posts, I'm sure there are quite a few who don't!

But I think to myself that I will probably only ever meet (in person) less than 0.001% of the total site membership - so thats a lot of people I can piss off remotely before I start doing myself any real damage.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"But surely if relevant points are not greeted with unchallenged universal approval they arn't really relevant points at all, unless the person making them is arrogant enough to assume that anyone who disagrees must be thick as fuk..

Or meringue???

"

Don't diss the meringue by lumping it in with the arrogant, one point, stuck in a groove, nit pickers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always give my opinion and I am not swayed by what others have written.

People will often get offended as they do not like challenge. However I do not call names or get abusive on the forum but I don't really sugar coat my words either.

In the main I believe I communicate well and I am not abusive.

There are many who fail and type things like FACT, wtf or lots of exclamation marks after their postings

as well as calling others names. They are limited in their ability to put forward a well reasoned argument or debate

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

all in all, the good outweigh the bad debates

as for the pack:

most of us have done it at some point... some just forget

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More than happy to blame internet culture for this one, but there's been a steady degradation in our collective ability to get a point across in a fair and balanced manner."

I don't think so - I see lots of well considered _iews on here. There's a fair bit of dribble in between but that's mostly people more interested in trying to impress with the size of their verbal cock (oblivious that it's protruding from their head).

The ones that piss me off are those that state something but are then unable to back it up when questioned. But then we can all be outright experts on an anonymous forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always interesting who posts on these kinds of threads... and who doesn't.

I agree OP.

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

Depends on what they are saying. As long as it's not racist, sexist, homophobia, or bullying then i don't see any problem. Im sure the moderators would soon put a stop to any threads that are getting out of hand.

Id rather someone said i was talking bollocks, than people who try to make snide little digs at people through in-jokes in threads(this one for example).

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