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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again."

I do wonder where they get these figures from lol x

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Really?? Good grief!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can well believe it.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Although there's no way my lad costs me £8k a year at the moment. I expect that rises once school uniforms, trips etc come into play but £8k????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would include

Food

Increase in heating lighting and electric

increased cost of holidays

clothing

childcare

It would also be an average, so some parts of country a lot cheaper and some a lot more expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If that was the case I would never ever have afforded 1 let alone 3.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

There is a report by the Child Poverty Action Group, commissioned by Joseph Rowntree Foundation on the figures.

Nursery places in London could easily make the figures more than £8k a year.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Don't forget to add in cost of housing etc.

I know someone who had to move house and change car due to a new baby cos the existing ones weren't big enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with Moody.. I've got 4 and to think back, its no wonder we both worked lots of overtime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!"

lol

or at least phone once in a while

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!"

I'm spending a small fortune on the three boys today with dinner and the theatre this evening. Not counting all of the things bought to keep them fed and amused before we even go out.

I think the biggest cost is shoes. They seem to need a new set every couple of months. I don't know how my sister keeps up with their growth spurts.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

lol

or at least phone once in a while "

Phone?! It'll be a text (or whatever replaces that) and you'll be grateful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

lol

or at least phone once in a while

Phone?! It'll be a text (or whatever replaces that) and you'll be grateful."

Good point. Maybe they'll friend you on "social media" and you can find out what they do

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can believe it although it does sound very high ive 3 the mind boggles where they get 8k per child from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No wonder I'm always skint

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others."

Early childhood with all the kit that goes with babies is particularly expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

I'm spending a small fortune on the three boys today with dinner and the theatre this evening. Not counting all of the things bought to keep them fed and amused before we even go out.

I think the biggest cost is shoes. They seem to need a new set every couple of months. I don't know how my sister keeps up with their growth spurts."

one of mine has had a foot growth again and is now a size 12 ,will need new trainers and shoes and just bought all the uniforms its never ending

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I can believe it although it does sound very high ive 3 the mind boggles where they get 8k per child from. "

You probably make savings by having some of the standard 'kit' in place. Once you have a crib and baby bath you don't need another for the next baby, and so on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can believe it although it does sound very high ive 3 the mind boggles where they get 8k per child from.

You probably make savings by having some of the standard 'kit' in place. Once you have a crib and baby bath you don't need another for the next baby, and so on."

ive twins lol had to have 2 of everything...and i got rid as never thought i would have another and 8 years later i had my hobbit so had to start again.

but yeah the initial outlay for prams and cribs n such is a couple of k easy

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

I'm spending a small fortune on the three boys today with dinner and the theatre this evening. Not counting all of the things bought to keep them fed and amused before we even go out.

I think the biggest cost is shoes. They seem to need a new set every couple of months. I don't know how my sister keeps up with their growth spurts.

one of mine has had a foot growth again and is now a size 12 ,will need new trainers and shoes and just bought all the uniforms its never ending "

The family all came back this weekend and because I hadn't seen the boys for three weeks I could see immediately how much they had grown. The 12 year old was surprised that his school blazer now fits perfectly. That means he'll probably need a new one by Christmas at £50.

One of the 8 year olds is almost as tall me now and is in the same shoe size.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No wonder I'm always skint "

ruby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sent my boys up a chimney when they were 8 to help with the bills. Not seen em since....

ted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!

I'm spending a small fortune on the three boys today with dinner and the theatre this evening. Not counting all of the things bought to keep them fed and amused before we even go out.

I think the biggest cost is shoes. They seem to need a new set every couple of months. I don't know how my sister keeps up with their growth spurts.

one of mine has had a foot growth again and is now a size 12 ,will need new trainers and shoes and just bought all the uniforms its never ending

The family all came back this weekend and because I hadn't seen the boys for three weeks I could see immediately how much they had grown. The 12 year old was surprised that his school blazer now fits perfectly. That means he'll probably need a new one by Christmas at £50.

One of the 8 year olds is almost as tall me now and is in the same shoe size."

blazers are a rip off and they hate wearing them..my sisters boy is really short which is a shame as he could have made use of their old ones

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By *upitersmileCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

I must have been mad!! We have six between us, 3 still at home, costs a bloody fortune this time of year!! All three have grown through the summer and needed new uniform. They also dance several styles....not looking forward to my bank statement this month!!

And even once they are over 18 we still spend a fortune!! Two grandchildren to spoil, one of the twins just got married so chipping in with that and helping them set up home.... It's never endding

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others.

Early childhood with all the kit that goes with babies is particularly expensive."

Need it be so expensive? £700 - £800 for a pram?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Schools don't help with their wanting to look 'more corporate' with their uniforms. Those were the actual words used a couple of years back when Ruby's daughters secondary became an academy. 'Corporate' wear costs a load more than standard school wear and parents can do without the added cost right now.

Since her daughter left in May, Ruby now has several items bought at the insistence of the school as the children 'had to have it' which are still in their wrappers. So... Ebay here we come...

ted.

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By *upitersmileCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others.

Early childhood with all the kit that goes with babies is particularly expensive.

Need it be so expensive? £700 - £800 for a pram?"

No that's the easy bit...gets much worse!!!

We were stupid enough to spend more on the pram for our youngest - £450, only to sell it after 5 months, no where near as good as cheaper ones!

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

And believe me it doesn't stop at 18..lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"And believe me it doesn't stop at 18..lol"

lol I was just about to say that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And believe me it doesn't stop at 18..lol"

don't I know it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again."

I only earn about that each year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And believe me it doesn't stop at 18..lol

lol I was just about to say that"

I think it could be about right, theres 3 of us in our house so if you split everything 3 ways ie: food,water,electric and so on it would soon add up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again."

Sigh...if it was just to 18 though. Mine are still at home 21 and 25.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life! "

Worth every single penny, the most rewarding, heartbreaking, joyous, single experience in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We could believe it costs that much.

We paid just over £13k a year for a place in a private nursery when we lived down south

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again."

I was about to dispute the figures Lickety, when I realised that £8k per year is 666 per month ......

666 ...... i'm not disputing the mark of the child.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Although there's no way my lad costs me £8k a year at the moment. I expect that rises once school uniforms, trips etc come into play but £8k????"

The nursey my daughter works in charges £18,000 per annum, per child.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"There is a report by the Child Poverty Action Group, commissioned by Joseph Rowntree Foundation on the figures.

Nursery places in London could easily make the figures more than £8k a year."

By a very big margin!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"They are adorable money pits

Hopefully they'll put me in a decent nursing home!"

Mine have already assured me they'll put me in the best nursing home (my) money can buy!

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again.

I was about to dispute the figures Lickety, when I realised that £8k per year is 666 per month ......

666 ...... i'm not disputing the mark of the child."

The devil in disguise.

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By *icketysplits OP   Woman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"There is a report by the Child Poverty Action Group, commissioned by Joseph Rowntree Foundation on the figures.

Nursery places in London could easily make the figures more than £8k a year.

By a very big margin!"

It's so good that the government will give £1,200 towards that, isn't it?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Each and every one a Damien ....

Duh Duh Duhhhhhhhhhhh

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"And believe me it doesn't stop at 18..lol"

Tell me about it!

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By *ouple_SpondonCouple
over a year ago

Spondon

I've 2 kids. That's 16k a year they cost. My salary is not much greater. Add rent, bills, car and other accepted priority payments....

Buggar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others.

Early childhood with all the kit that goes with babies is particularly expensive.

Need it be so expensive? £700 - £800 for a pram?"

I've never spent anywhere near that. Spent 350quid on first and used it for the next too as well... School uniforms cost me the most but even having four at home I can't get anywhere near that for expenditure just on them... Just as well really.

Cali

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Just as well having kids isn't compulsory, eh?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life! "

I have all the money I'll ever need, I can buy and go anywhere I want. I spent yesterday with my ex-husband and children celebrating our eldest first wedding anniversary.

I've had some awesome life experiences and I'm not a gushing type of woman but I can tell you, hand on heart, "I love you mummy" from your child without "can you lend?" tagged on the end is the best feeling in the world for me.

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By *upitersmileCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Making mine earn their keep today!! And my niece while she's here!

Having a big clear out as this is the last full day of the ill have with them before they go to school.....and it can't come to soon!!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Worth every single penny, the most rewarding, heartbreaking, joyous, single experience in life."

Ain't that the truth!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again.

I was about to dispute the figures Lickety, when I realised that £8k per year is 666 per month ......

666 ...... i'm not disputing the mark of the child."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes ongoing costs my 30 yr old still bleeds me dry

Would not change it though kids are for life bit like a dog

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

We've worked out we'll be about £4k/year better off when our youngest goes to Uni even taking into consideration the £500/quarter we'll give her to top up her loans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Worth every single penny, the most rewarding, heartbreaking, joyous, single experience in life."

What sounds like the Ferrari I could buy with that sort of money!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's if you're not adding school fees, as these can be A LOT higher.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The fact it was part funded by the Child Poverty Actipn Group suggests school fees weren't much of a consideration.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Action

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life! "

Spending money on people you love is one of the better things in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Worth every single penny, the most rewarding, heartbreaking, joyous, single experience in life.

What sounds like the Ferrari I could buy with that sort of money! "

How fast does your Ferrari go?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Spending money on people you love is one of the better things in life."

Doesn't have to be kids though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The £8k is an average taken from the total over 18 years but it won't be a straight line.

Some years will be much more expensive than others.

Early childhood with all the kit that goes with babies is particularly expensive.

Need it be so expensive? £700 - £800 for a pram?

No that's the easy bit...gets much worse!!!

We were stupid enough to spend more on the pram for our youngest - £450, only to sell it after 5 months, no where near as good as cheaper ones! "

I couldnt afford the best when i had the boys and had my heart set on a pram that cost £600 with my hobbit and was in a better position so bought it...only parted with it last year for my niece and she is loving it so well worth the money.

although i did end up buying a cheaper bugger as it was easier to fit in the car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they get more expensive when they grow up, one reason why we only had one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Spending money on people you love is one of the better things in life.

Doesn't have to be kids though."

Nope but they're generally the one group of people you can love unconditionally.

If you don't have kids, it's difficult to understand the bond most people have to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they get more expensive when they grow up, one reason why we only had one."

Lol some of us dont get that choice straight off...ah we maon about it but i work hard and i know they will leave me skint for plenty more years to come but i will be proud of what they became and already am

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".........

I couldnt afford the best when i had the boys and had my heart set on a pram that cost £600 with my hobbit and was in a better position so bought it...only parted with it last year for my niece and she is loving it so well worth the money.

although i did end up buying a cheaper bugger as it was easier to fit in the car "

I have no issue with folks buying prams which will be passed down from one child to cousins, nephews/ nieces etc but so many new mums seem to insist on brand new and £stupid.

My pram had previously been my cousin's and after me it was the cousin's wee sister.

It went through a number of kids and the bottom half ended up under a bogey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a single dad of 3 and they cost enought my eldest is shoe mad. I'm away a lot due to my work so I always treat them.

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By *HAEDRUS2013Man
over a year ago

LONDON

My son is coming up to two shortly and he is starting a montessori school next month. Even at three half days it still adds up and is only going to get more expense I see if the charges for next year. Proud to pay to be honest, as a good education and love is the best gift I can give him. Yes, I can understand how even with just one the bills can mount up.

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By *HAEDRUS2013Man
over a year ago

LONDON


"My son is coming up to two shortly and he is starting a montessori school next month. Even at three half days it still adds up and is only going to get more expense I see if the charges for next year. Proud to pay to be honest, as a good education and love is the best gift I can give him. Yes, I can understand how even with just one the bills can mount up."

Sorry-'expensive, I see in the charges for next year'-poor grammar!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Kids only cost as much as you want. When my son was born everything we needed except the pram came from friends. People want the biggest and best of everything so its up to them how much they spend

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

good lord... that is some money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do wonder how much of that is cost we have anyway. And how much is you have to have new and the best of everything. I did not nor did my older sister, we both came out happy and ok for the most part. But hay you cannot put a prise on love between kids and parents.

PS I not of got an iphone till i had saved up for it, well that what my mom tells me. but mommmyyyyy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

"

A bit

Confused as to what's bollox?

The figure quoted is the average which means that quite a lot (possibly 60%) will spend less and quite a lot will spend more. The mean figure might be lower (or possibly higher). However, costs of raising children are spiralling upwards and that was the point of this particular survey not the figure published.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

A bit

Confused as to what's bollox?

The figure quoted is the average which means that quite a lot (possibly 60%) will spend less and quite a lot will spend more. The mean figure might be lower (or possibly higher). However, costs of raising children are spiralling upwards and that was the point of this particular survey not the figure published."

The OP states that raising a child ( ie one child ) not the average or mean child, nor a marginal child, is £8K per annum. Utter bollox.

The cost of raising a child is not at all, spiralling upwards. What may be going upwards is what parents are prepared to spend on a certain child.

Is State Education not free?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I hate to say it but even at 33 I rely on my parents at certain intervals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

A bit

Confused as to what's bollox?

The figure quoted is the average which means that quite a lot (possibly 60%) will spend less and quite a lot will spend more. The mean figure might be lower (or possibly higher). However, costs of raising children are spiralling upwards and that was the point of this particular survey not the figure published.

The OP states that raising a child ( ie one child ) not the average or mean child, nor a marginal child, is £8K per annum. Utter bollox.

The cost of raising a child is not at all, spiralling upwards. What may be going upwards is what parents are prepared to spend on a certain child.

Is State Education not free?

"

It comes from a survey and the £8k is an average. State education is free, except uniforms aren't. Costs of food, housing etc are spiralling. This figure is based on research and although I'm sure you believe what you say, it's not based on any evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my kids owe me a small fortune then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lots of news reports yesterday and today on the rising cost of raising a child. It is now put at £148k to the age of 18.

That's over £8k a year.

We might have to send them back t'mill or up the chimney again."

so what happens after they reach 18 do we just give up on them, or does the job fairy put a job offer under their pillow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care how much it costs. They are worth every penny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

A bit

Confused as to what's bollox?

The figure quoted is the average which means that quite a lot (possibly 60%) will spend less and quite a lot will spend more. The mean figure might be lower (or possibly higher). However, costs of raising children are spiralling upwards and that was the point of this particular survey not the figure published.

The OP states that raising a child ( ie one child ) not the average or mean child, nor a marginal child, is £8K per annum. Utter bollox.

The cost of raising a child is not at all, spiralling upwards. What may be going upwards is what parents are prepared to spend on a certain child.

Is State Education not free?

It comes from a survey and the £8k is an average. State education is free, except uniforms aren't. Costs of food, housing etc are spiralling. This figure is based on research and although I'm sure you believe what you say, it's not based on any evidence.

"

Not based on any evidence? What, like the evidence, some given above, that a large number of parents don't have sufficient income to pay out £8k per child? If that's not evidence, are they untruthful, non existent?

If the average is £8k, then quite simply the cost of raising a child is far far less. Anything above this is merely the parents preferential choice.

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over a year ago


"Glad I got any. Much nicer to spend the money on the better things in life!

Worth every single penny, the most rewarding, heartbreaking, joyous, single experience in life.

What sounds like the Ferrari I could buy with that sort of money!

How fast does your Ferrari go?"

Sadly, I don't have a Ferrari as I cant afford one!

Gladly, I dont have kids, as I dont like them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Quite simply ridiculous,utter bollox, for many reasons.

2m children are said to live in poverty ( households with less than 60% of average income.)

The admittedly expensive cost of nurseries is nothing at all to do with raising a child, it is actually a cost of a parent earning income. The raising of the child has been subcontracted, not unlike say paying a a gardener.

Do kids really need the latest highest priced pram, and other fripperies? Nah.

A bit

Confused as to what's bollox?

The figure quoted is the average which means that quite a lot (possibly 60%) will spend less and quite a lot will spend more. The mean figure might be lower (or possibly higher). However, costs of raising children are spiralling upwards and that was the point of this particular survey not the figure published.

The OP states that raising a child ( ie one child ) not the average or mean child, nor a marginal child, is £8K per annum. Utter bollox.

The cost of raising a child is not at all, spiralling upwards. What may be going upwards is what parents are prepared to spend on a certain child.

Is State Education not free?

It comes from a survey and the £8k is an average. State education is free, except uniforms aren't. Costs of food, housing etc are spiralling. This figure is based on research and although I'm sure you believe what you say, it's not based on any evidence.

Not based on any evidence? What, like the evidence, some given above, that a large number of parents don't have sufficient income to pay out £8k per child? If that's not evidence, are they untruthful, non existent?

If the average is £8k, then quite simply the cost of raising a child is far far less. Anything above this is merely the parents preferential choice.

"

Actually no, then cost is probably higher as many children live in poverty. The figure given is an average, which means that yes it costs some more but that's potentially down to venues (London weighting) it's a bit like saying if the average salary is £23k then anyone over is earning too much. Which also means that many ate not earning enough.

Without the mean and standard deviations then your _iew is a personal opinion and not based on factual evidence. You're assuming everyone spending over £8k is spending it on luxury items.

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over a year ago

Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages

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over a year ago


"Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages"

Most people don't spend £8k on bringing up children as the poor have distorted the figures.

An average is just that an average.

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over a year ago


"Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages

Most people don't spend £8k on bringing up children as the poor have distorted the figures.

An average is just that an average.

"

lol, i think you will find it's not the poor who have distorted the average.

Some evidence for you : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23726224

Basic cost £81,772 or £90,980. Still excessive.

Can anyone explain why the basic cost is so much more for a single parent than a two parent family?

Do you have to pay someone to mash the potatoes whilst you make the gravy?

You daren't say no to a kid so you send out for Pizza and Chips instead and have to tip the delivery person?

Genuinely mystified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages

Most people don't spend £8k on bringing up children as the poor have distorted the figures.

An average is just that an average.

lol, i think you will find it's not the poor who have distorted the average.

Some evidence for you : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23726224

Basic cost £81,772 or £90,980. Still excessive.

Can anyone explain why the basic cost is so much more for a single parent than a two parent family?

Do you have to pay someone to mash the potatoes whilst you make the gravy?

You daren't say no to a kid so you send out for Pizza and Chips instead and have to tip the delivery person?

Genuinely mystified. "

It's to do with the principles of economies of scale. They'd include housing so one single parent would be paying for two people and dividing cost by two, two parents with one child don't increase costs by a 1/3 but you divide by 1/3. So if rent is £650 a month for two that's not the same per capita if it's for three. Same with food, electricity gas etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages

Most people don't spend £8k on bringing up children as the poor have distorted the figures.

An average is just that an average.

lol, i think you will find it's not the poor who have distorted the average.

Some evidence for you : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23726224

Basic cost £81,772 or £90,980. Still excessive.

Can anyone explain why the basic cost is so much more for a single parent than a two parent family?

Do you have to pay someone to mash the potatoes whilst you make the gravy?

You daren't say no to a kid so you send out for Pizza and Chips instead and have to tip the delivery person?

Genuinely mystified.

It's to do with the principles of economies of scale. They'd include housing so one single parent would be paying for two people and dividing cost by two, two parents with one child don't increase costs by a 1/3 but you divide by 1/3. So if rent is £650 a month for two that's not the same per capita if it's for three. Same with food, electricity gas etc"

lol. Shouldn't economies of scale reduce the costs significantly? Your logic on housing shows how utterly ridiculous the "costs" are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most folks don't spend any where near £8k per year. The very rich few have distorted the figures beyond all belief. You can't beat looking at averages

Most people don't spend £8k on bringing up children as the poor have distorted the figures.

An average is just that an average.

lol, i think you will find it's not the poor who have distorted the average.

Some evidence for you : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23726224

Basic cost £81,772 or £90,980. Still excessive.

Can anyone explain why the basic cost is so much more for a single parent than a two parent family?

Do you have to pay someone to mash the potatoes whilst you make the gravy?

You daren't say no to a kid so you send out for Pizza and Chips instead and have to tip the delivery person?

Genuinely mystified.

It's to do with the principles of economies of scale. They'd include housing so one single parent would be paying for two people and dividing cost by two, two parents with one child don't increase costs by a 1/3 but you divide by 1/3. So if rent is £650 a month for two that's not the same per capita if it's for three. Same with food, electricity gas etc

lol. Shouldn't economies of scale reduce the costs significantly? Your logic on housing shows how utterly ridiculous the "costs" are. "

No economies of scale reduce unit cost not overall cost. Thats why its more ecpensive for a single parent. if thete were 12 of them the unit cost would be even lower, the overall cost would be much higher. As for my "logic on housing" what the does that mean? If there are two kids then you'd have a minimum of a two bedroom house/flat in some areas that'll be £300 PCM and others it'll be £1800 per week. If you were single then you don't need two bedrooms. Therefore the increase in rent/mortgage may well be included. It's a complex formula to work out cost of bringing up a child. Not just adding and subtracting.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"............

lol, i think you will find it's not the poor who have distorted the average.

Some evidence for you : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23726224

Basic cost £81,772 or £90,980. Still excessive.

Can anyone explain why the basic cost is so much more for a single parent than a two parent family?

............

Genuinely mystified. "

It may be that costs are calculated net of various tax reliefs and those will be less for a single parent whilst the costs remain much the same.

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London

Blimey my brain hurts and I didn't even read all the posts.

Just another reason to add to the list of why I want to remain childless!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Blimey my brain hurts and I didn't even read all the posts.

Just another reason to add to the list of why I want to remain childless!"

I hope it's a veeeeeeeeeeeeery long list.

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By *obbygggMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

£8,000 p.a? Garbage. How do the single slappers on my High St afford the WKD's they're slurping while they blow the cigarette smoke in the baby's face? Plus the obligatory tattoos.

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London


"Blimey my brain hurts and I didn't even read all the posts.

Just another reason to add to the list of why I want to remain childless!

I hope it's a veeeeeeeeeeeeery long list."

Very short list actually.

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