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By *llovertown OP   Man
over a year ago

swansea

Have you ever thought that everytime they open a fracking operation you lose another potential dogging site. Lol

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

No. All all the frackers anti-dogging?

I have been thinking about the report on potential aquifer contamination in Sussex that the government decided to ignore a couple of years ago.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Everyone wants cheap(er) fuels. Just so long as it doesn't come from near them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone wants cheap(er) fuels. Just so long as it doesn't come from near them."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

There's no question water is important but if a Fabster can't accommodate, some kinda fuel is needed to get them to meets.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed."

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

But if we have no clean water to drink none of us are going to need to drive anywhere

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By *ancatMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

"

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them."

Urban myth....

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By *ancatMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth...."

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth....

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much."

It's a nonsense, it has been proved that the base energy source needed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then combine them to create any form of fuel exceeds the energy generated by the said engine it powers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about just hydrogen?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"What about just hydrogen?"

Hydrogen is already used to power vehicles, but because it isn't a natural energy source as such it still requires other energy sources to produce it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

"

Not widespread but geothermal energy is heating homes in some countries ie Iceland...it's a vast untapped energy source

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Not widespread but geothermal energy is heating homes in some countries ie Iceland...it's a vast untapped energy source "

Yep. You can get ground source hear pumps here to run under floor heating systems but they are expensive. The governments renewable incentive can help over time but they learnt their lesson from the solar feed in tariff so you won't see such good returns lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about just hydrogen?

Hydrogen is already used to power vehicles, but because it isn't a natural energy source as such it still requires other energy sources to produce it.

I noticed some bus routes are running off hydrogen up in town, part of a trial to see which is most effective and the winner as such is put into service

Taxis next please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tidal power used to disassociate water and you have your Hydrogen and Oxygen. Zero carbon footprint and totally clean transportable fuel. Very simple and you are not depending on the wind. Just gravity, and that isn't going to go anywhere.

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By *ammyDodgaMan
over a year ago

Nottingham/and everywhere my location says i am ;)


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Not widespread but geothermal energy is heating homes in some countries ie Iceland...it's a vast untapped energy source "

Get ready for 2020 people when all Combi boilers are banned unless they come up with a way to make them efficient for water heating..

Ground source and air source are the future, communal heating is making a comeback

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By *xxwiganMan
over a year ago

LEIGH


"Tidal power used to disassociate water and you have your Hydrogen and Oxygen. Zero carbon footprint and totally clean transportable fuel. Very simple and you are not depending on the wind. Just gravity, and that isn't going to go anywhere."

how does this work? I asume you mean the electricity they make from tidal power can be used to electrolyse water into oxygen and hydrogen?

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By *xxwiganMan
over a year ago

LEIGH


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth....

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much.

It's a nonsense, it has been proved that the base energy source needed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then combine them to create any form of fuel exceeds the energy generated by the said engine it powers.

"

you need to have a look at a company called ACTA, they are involved in making this technology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth...."

Ambulances, more like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about just hydrogen?

Hydrogen is already used to power vehicles, but because it isn't a natural energy source as such it still requires other energy sources to produce it.

"

The sun is doing quite nicely. Long may it continue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fracking hell.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth....

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much.

It's a nonsense, it has been proved that the base energy source needed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then combine them to create any form of fuel exceeds the energy generated by the said engine it powers.

you need to have a look at a company called ACTA, they are involved in making this technology."

The biggest problem with Hydrogen isn't it's production so much as it's prohibitive cost in manufacturing fuel cells, it will never be seen as a realistic alternative to petrol or diesel engine cars in our lifetime.

If anything Electric powered cars are more feasible on a mass produced basis, but even they have major drawbacks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tidal power is THE only way forward. Build a barrage from Cardiff out to Weston. With the guaranteed tides, you get electricity that is FOC. Ok, so you have the initial costs of construction, and ongoing maintenance, but you could also put a road on the top, and run trains over it too. And the resulting lake contained behind it would give us a truly world-class opportunity for all kinds of watersports (the sporty kind ).

All it requires is someone with the balls and political clout to take it forward, but then it seems that we don't have people like Brunel in this country any more. HR

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By *xxwiganMan
over a year ago

LEIGH


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth....

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much.

It's a nonsense, it has been proved that the base energy source needed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then combine them to create any form of fuel exceeds the energy generated by the said engine it powers.

you need to have a look at a company called ACTA, they are involved in making this technology.

The biggest problem with Hydrogen isn't it's production so much as it's prohibitive cost in manufacturing fuel cells, it will never be seen as a realistic alternative to petrol or diesel engine cars in our lifetime.

If anything Electric powered cars are more feasible on a mass produced basis, but even they have major drawbacks."

have you checked out the company? it will happen sooner rather than later with the military interested. if you could fill up with water and have an electrical cell convert it to hydrgen fuel, you would not need to take the fuel with you just fill up with ubiquitous water.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

I'm thinking,go nuclear.

with today's technology,it's mega safe,and its proven.

Although I can not lie,some doggers site's may be harmed in the making of these power stations.

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By *llovertown OP   Man
over a year ago

swansea

Your right. The tide takes approx 6 hours to come in and 6 hours to go out. It's done this for millions of years it's about time this source of energy was tapped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Combine the best of both, build the nuclear power station in the tidal estuary. What could go wrong?

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"

Combine the best of both, build the nuclear power station in the tidal estuary. What could go wrong?"

Don't look back,look forward,lessons learned.

Plus I'm thinking,you don't even care about those dogging sites.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Although I can not lie,some doggers site's may be harmed in the making of these power stations. "

We can move. We've moved before and we'll move again if need be.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Brian Wilson made a valid point on Radio 4 a few mins ago.

It doesn't matter what you want to build wherever you want to build it - SOMEBODY will object and campaign against it.

He pointed to hydro electric schemes in Scotland. Possibly the best thing that ever happened to renewables but would you get agreement to build them now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get them to frack them fill it with sea water. Surely it kills two birds with one stone reduces sea levels due to global warming and ice caps melting and gives us fuel too

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Few of the protesters, including Vivienne Westwood, at Balcombe and elsewhere look to be in immediate danger of fuel poverty.

It's all too easy for those who don't have to worry about keeping warm over the winter to maintain that the nation ought not harvest cheap fuel wherever it can be found.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Combine the best of both, build the nuclear power station in the tidal estuary. What could go wrong?"

like Fukushima ?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Where I live, we have plenty of pit tips and subsidence, so I'm not too sympathetic to something like this occurring in Surrey.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I reckon the only subsidence they're worried about is in house prices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think potable water is far more important than a fuel source that isn't really needed.

Unfortunately they haven't come up with a system yet where you can run cars, buses and trucks on water....or heat homes.

Yes thay have but the oil companys have all the patients for them.

Urban myth....

BMW and shell had a working prototype engine in a car about 5 years ago but would not make it as its costs to much.

It's a nonsense, it has been proved that the base energy source needed to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then combine them to create any form of fuel exceeds the energy generated by the said engine it powers.

you need to have a look at a company called ACTA, they are involved in making this technology.

The biggest problem with Hydrogen isn't it's production so much as it's prohibitive cost in manufacturing fuel cells, it will never be seen as a realistic alternative to petrol or diesel engine cars in our lifetime.

If anything Electric powered cars are more feasible on a mass produced basis, but even they have major drawbacks.

have you checked out the company? it will happen sooner rather than later with the military interested. if you could fill up with water and have an electrical cell convert it to hydrgen fuel, you would not need to take the fuel with you just fill up with ubiquitous water."

Checked out actagroup thanks

What about biogas is that too holy grail?

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