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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Prison is not comfy

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective? "
What about miscarriages of justice...the killing of a possibly innocent man/women doesn't bode well with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

might be able to afford some better pants then ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prison is not comfy "

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective? "

You support hanging then for people who are only charged with murder?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *lutandhubbyCouple
over a year ago

west midlands

if it was a eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth the whole world would be blind and toothless!

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London

An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind.

I do not believe in the death penalty under any circumstances. Why should we as a society lower ourselves to the same level as those murderers? I prefer to hold on to as much of our humanity as we can.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

What has doing a decent days work for your money got to do with murders that others commit?.....

Are all murderers out of work skivers then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective? What about miscarriages of justice...the killing of a possibly innocent man/women doesn't bode well with me. "

Fair point, but what about such as Peter Sutcliffe, Donald Neilson, Myra Hindley, that Soham chappie, those who took Jamie Bulger?

Government policy in recent years has been to put stuff out to tender.

Let the bidding to become official hangman start. £100k here, i'd get double that back in ticket sales.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

eeeeeeeh why do we bother

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"What has doing a decent days work for your money got to do with murders that others commit?.....

Are all murderers out of work skivers then?"

Lol are all unemployed people skivers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you like to be the hangman OP? be the one that ties the rope around another humans neck? the one that pulls the lever,hears the neck snap and watch the life drain out of someone who a few months down the line was found to be innocent?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

So you saying that everyone that goes to prison are scum of the earth and not worked a day in their life??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

You support hanging then for people who are only charged with murder?"

If the evidence was unequivocally against the against the accused & there was no way it could have been anyone else then why not? It would act as a good deterrent & stop thousands of pounds of taxpayers money getting wasted on appeals etc. Controversial perhaps but I think a lot of people would secretly agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

You support hanging then for people who are only charged with murder?

If the evidence was unequivocally against the against the accused & there was no way it could have been anyone else then why not? It would act as a good deterrent & stop thousands of pounds of taxpayers money getting wasted on appeals etc. Controversial perhaps but I think a lot of people would secretly agree"

Some openly.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I can't agree with or condone murder by the state in my name I can't see how it makes us or them any better than the criminals. How can we claim the moral high ground when we're prepared to commit the same act?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective? "

Sigh...where to begin picking this apart. On second thoughts...fuck it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't agree with or condone murder by the state in my name I can't see how it makes us or them any better than the criminals. How can we claim the moral high ground when we're prepared to commit the same act?"

exactly !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

Sigh...where to begin picking this apart. On second thoughts...fuck it!"

Exactly why I put up two thumbs up...sometimes there's no point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have done the figures in the USA and it is cheaper to imprison people than to execute them.

The figures for this can be found on amnesty's website.

Think lots of very expensive appeals etc.

The only people that would benefit would probably be the barristers.

It runs into multiple millions to execute someone.

It doesn't prevent murders either so there is no benefit to doing it whatsoever.

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London

I am glad to see that some people on this thread aren't total barbarians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

does anybody wanna shag us?....... sorry to veer off the subject, but just reminding peeps where we are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't agree with or condone murder by the state in my name I can't see how it makes us or them any better than the criminals. How can we claim the moral high ground when we're prepared to commit the same act?"

Care to explain Afghanistan then?

Agent Orange, Napalm in Vietnam?

Ultimately, because the victims have a different opinion and philopsophy to the West?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".........

If the evidence was unequivocally against the against the accused & there was no way it could have been anyone else then why not? It would act as a good deterrent & stop thousands of pounds of taxpayers money getting wasted on appeals etc. ................."

It doesn't act as a deterrent

1) 'cos criminals never consider for one minute that they'll be caught and

2) 'cos in countries where capital punishment still exists, so does murder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"does anybody wanna shag us?....... sorry to veer off the subject, but just reminding peeps where we are "

are you looking for well hung?

notice an absence of a winky icon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh fuck ............ now its gettin deep

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"does anybody wanna shag us?....... sorry to veer off the subject, but just reminding peeps where we are "

in The Lounge.

There's no shortage of other places on Fab for matters carnal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"does anybody wanna shag us?....... sorry to veer off the subject, but just reminding peeps where we are

are you looking for well hung?

notice an absence of a winky icon

"

notice an absence of photo's as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

England used to have an official hangman, I think his name was Albert Pierrepoint if my social history serves me well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"does anybody wanna shag us?....... sorry to veer off the subject, but just reminding peeps where we are

are you looking for well hung?

notice an absence of a winky icon

notice an absence of photo's as well "

true, but i do know one of your veri's very well indeed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"England used to have an official hangman, I think his name was Albert Pierrepoint if my social history serves me well. "

More a family tradition than 'official'.

Read the story of James Berry, executioner. Fascinating stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about kiddy fiddlers. Or murderers in any sense. Life in this country means about 15 years, less if you are a good boy. Prison is no deterent. I lived in the middle east for ten years, and in all that time there were four murders, and the culprits got Hung on live telly. One hell of a way to get your message across, and one that worked.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

"

And if the pensioner had been Savile or Shipman?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prison is not comfy "

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

"

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

You support hanging then for people who are only charged with murder?"

No, convicted

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be."

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

And if the pensioner had been Savile or Shipman?"

Exactly the same

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not."

It's not as harsh as people who've never been in prison think they'd like it to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

And if the pensioner had been Savile or Shipman?"

Interesting. Sticky slope when you start to qualify the victim?

Would people change their views if it was their nearest and dearest involved?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not."

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I can't agree with or condone murder by the state in my name I can't see how it makes us or them any better than the criminals. How can we claim the moral high ground when we're prepared to commit the same act?

Care to explain Afghanistan then?

Agent Orange, Napalm in Vietnam?

Ultimately, because the victims have a different opinion and philopsophy to the West? "

That's why I ask the question. I'm only stating my reasons for not wanting a return of the death penalty not condoning or denying any of the things you mention.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

And if the pensioner had been Savile or Shipman?

Interesting. Sticky slope when you start to qualify the victim?

Would people change their views if it was their nearest and dearest involved?

"

Bearing in mind Savile hasn't actually been convicted.

Nor, for that matter, had Fred West.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want."

how do you know most people want punishment to be more harsh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let's say that a 20 year old murders a pensionner. Quite rightly, revulsion.

The media report a groundswell of "let the fucker rot in jail for as long as we can keep him medically alive, the longer the better."

Isn't that equally barbaric, inhumane?

And if the pensioner had been Savile or Shipman?

Interesting. Sticky slope when you start to qualify the victim?

Would people change their views if it was their nearest and dearest involved?

"

You cannot qualify the victim, otherwise you move into a whole new area of ethics. If someone raped my daughter, I would kill them, given the opportunity. However, I consider myself a law-abiding citizen.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want.

how do you know most people want punishment to be more harsh?"

This forum is probably as good a cross section of opinion as anywhere and from this, and previous, prison threads, I get the impression most folk would like a really harsh regime.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


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You cannot qualify the victim, otherwise you move into a whole new area of ethics. If someone raped my daughter, I would kill them, given the opportunity. However, I consider myself a law-abiding citizen."

I'm not convinced you would kill the person who raped your daughter.

You'd want to, and you'd never forgive yourself for not having done so, but I doubt you'd do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want.

how do you know most people want punishment to be more harsh?"

Because, I have a life away from the internet, and that is the general concensus of the people I know. You can be pc & play to the crowd, but I'm from Earth, Welcome!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want.

how do you know most people want punishment to be more harsh?

This forum is probably as good a cross section of opinion as anywhere and from this, and previous, prison threads, I get the impression most folk would like a really harsh regime."

Yea I get the same impression. I would be interested to know how our opinions might change if we all had a little more insight into what prison was like on both sides of the argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You cannot qualify the victim, otherwise you move into a whole new area of ethics. If someone raped my daughter, I would kill them, given the opportunity. However, I consider myself a law-abiding citizen.

I'm not convinced you would kill the person who raped your daughter.

You'd want to, and you'd never forgive yourself for not having done so, but I doubt you'd do it."

You don't know me at all

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Prison is not comfy

I agree. But it is not as harsh as most people would like it to be.

Depends on whether you feel that loss of liberty is the punishment or not.

Loss of liberty is a punishment, but not as harsh as most people would want.

how do you know most people want punishment to be more harsh?

Because, I have a life away from the internet, and that is the general concensus of the people I know. You can be pc & play to the crowd, but I'm from Earth, Welcome!"

Because I want to engage you in discussion I'm playing to the crowd, blimey. I'm from Earth too you'll find we're all different and allowed to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know about you lot but I work a decent days work for my money. But it's most frustrating opening the papers nearly everyweek and there it is. . . Mr or Mrs Anonymous charged with murder! Comfy life in prison kept by me you and the rest of the tax paying brits! Why why why! In clear but cases surely ropes more cost effective?

Sigh...where to begin picking this apart. On second thoughts...fuck it!"

it's a tapestry of bollocks isn't it _iss_tress

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".......... I get the impression most folk would like a really harsh regime.

Yea I get the same impression. I would be interested to know how our opinions might change if we all had a little more insight into what prison was like on both sides of the argument."

I've visited prisons, both old fashioned and brand new privatised and shiny and I wouldn't want to spend a night in either - even to raise money for charity.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

You cannot qualify the victim, otherwise you move into a whole new area of ethics. If someone raped my daughter, I would kill them, given the opportunity. However, I consider myself a law-abiding citizen.

I'm not convinced you would kill the person who raped your daughter.

You'd want to, and you'd never forgive yourself for not having done so, but I doubt you'd do it.

You don't know me at all"

Only from what you've written here, on your profile and what others say about you.

I doubt you could kill.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Before you cast judgement spend a night in prison

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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago

South London

I really wish more people were aware of their own utter hypocrisy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You cannot qualify the victim, otherwise you move into a whole new area of ethics. If someone raped my daughter, I would kill them, given the opportunity. However, I consider myself a law-abiding citizen.

I'm not convinced you would kill the person who raped your daughter.

You'd want to, and you'd never forgive yourself for not having done so, but I doubt you'd do it.

You don't know me at all

Only from what you've written here, on your profile and what others say about you.

I doubt you could kill."

Others say about me? Can't remember talking to many.

The profile attracts what I want on here. Again, proves you know nothing about anyone on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cant agree with capital punishment but agree prisons need rethinking.

solitary for every in mate. No tv or playstation. Basic meals a bed and a toilet.

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