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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue???" Kids sound definitely learn how to behave in public but they can do that pre-7pm right? Not sure a blanket ban is best, maybe do something more about the kids who can't behave (or parents who make no attempt to control their children). But then again I am old fashioned and don't think under-8s should be up much later than 7 unless it is a special occasion. | |||
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"Can't see many going foe it to be honest. Who spends more? A lobed up couple whwre she doesn't want to eat much to make he're look good in front of him or a family of 4 with kids that have pester power for Big desserts??" Very true evie, its all about the money they can make and not the ambiance of the place | |||
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"As long as not all ban kids I don't see the issue with it. Deffo after 9pm though there is a time and place for kids and at that time they should be at home getting ready for bed. " I don't think there should be ban on any kids but just management of customers and if people's children's run a muck the parents should be spoken to | |||
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" But then i would go on a flight with no kids as well. " kids free flights would be fantastic.... the peace I would get.... mind you, you'd have adults staggering off the plane boozed up.... | |||
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" But then i would go on a flight with no kids as well. kids free flights would be fantastic.... the peace I would get.... mind you, you'd have adults staggering off the plane boozed up.... " Yerrrr bliss | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! " This! | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! " +1. But tripping the little feckers up as they run past is amusing! | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! " Have to agree here... Don't like kids staring at me with their fingers up their noses while I'm eating, bad enough that my date is doing it! | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! Have to agree here... Don't like kids staring at me with their fingers up their noses while I'm eating, bad enough that my date is doing it! " | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! +1. But tripping the little feckers up as they run past is amusing!" No sod it, that is a six thumber | |||
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"I'm all for it! When eating out i deliberately avoid family friendly eateries! Screaming kids and rug rats running around like headless chickens puts me right off! " | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " couldn't agree more! | |||
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"Maybe a ban on children's menus?" Not feeding the little monsters only makes them worse.. Trust me! | |||
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"A local pub to me used to be very child friendly with excellent kids menu and even hosted a weekly breastfeeding group (make your own jokes) anyhow a new owner came in and immediately banned children fullstop!! One month and an empty pub later he lifted the ban and brought back all the kids menus etc.... Basically realised that people eating and drinking with kids also liked to drink there in evenings and once they settled into pub up road they didn't bother going back. Don't think there's a need for it too be honest. Never encountered kids in pub late at night!" Not many folk like to eat late at night! | |||
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" But then i would go on a flight with no kids as well. kids free flights would be fantastic.... the peace I would get.... mind you, you'd have adults staggering off the plane boozed up.... " I'd like a kid-free and arsehole-free flight if it can be arranged!!! Last few flights I've been on, the cunts who try and put their seats back during dinner and then moan when they can feel your knees through the back of the chair have pissed me off more than any screaming kids. x | |||
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" But then i would go on a flight with no kids as well. kids free flights would be fantastic.... the peace I would get.... mind you, you'd have adults staggering off the plane boozed up.... I'd like a kid-free and arsehole-free flight if it can be arranged!!! Last few flights I've been on, the cunts who try and put their seats back during dinner and then moan when they can feel your knees through the back of the chair have pissed me off more than any screaming kids. x" ^^^^^^This!!!! | |||
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"A local pub to me used to be very child friendly with excellent kids menu and even hosted a weekly breastfeeding group (make your own jokes) anyhow a new owner came in and immediately banned children fullstop!! One month and an empty pub later he lifted the ban and brought back all the kids menus etc.... Basically realised that people eating and drinking with kids also liked to drink there in evenings and once they settled into pub up road they didn't bother going back. Don't think there's a need for it too be honest. Never encountered kids in pub late at night! Not many folk like to eat late at night! " And your point is????? | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue??? Kids sound definitely learn how to behave in public but they can do that pre-7pm right? Not sure a blanket ban is best, maybe do something more about the kids who can't behave (or parents who make no attempt to control their children). But then again I am old fashioned and don't think under-8s should be up much later than 7 unless it is a special occasion." If my son was in bed by 7pm he would be up at 5am! He has never been a long sleeper.. I wouldn't fream of making him lay in bed for a couple of hours cos that's like a lifetime to him! | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " Well said! | |||
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"I would much rather be around kids who were playing than d*unk adults being loud, abnoxious and brawling anytime " Agreed | |||
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"Don't think there's a need for it too be honest. Never encountered kids in pub late at night! Not many folk like to eat late at night! And your point is?????" The point is, that there ARE kids around when most people want to eat, not always "late at night", when they're in bed! | |||
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"I would much rather be around kids who were playing than d*unk adults being loud, abnoxious and brawling anytime " I'd rather not be around either while eating! | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue??? Kids sound definitely learn how to behave in public but they can do that pre-7pm right? Not sure a blanket ban is best, maybe do something more about the kids who can't behave (or parents who make no attempt to control their children). But then again I am old fashioned and don't think under-8s should be up much later than 7 unless it is a special occasion. If my son was in bed by 7pm he would be up at 5am! He has never been a long sleeper.. I wouldn't fream of making him lay in bed for a couple of hours cos that's like a lifetime to him!" That's fair enough but even so, would you take him out for a meal so late in the evening, or have him at home winding down after a busy day? My kids are proper lightweights, I often have to scoop my 5 year old off the sofa and put her to bed cos she just crashed out at 6pm lol | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue??? Kids sound definitely learn how to behave in public but they can do that pre-7pm right? Not sure a blanket ban is best, maybe do something more about the kids who can't behave (or parents who make no attempt to control their children). But then again I am old fashioned and don't think under-8s should be up much later than 7 unless it is a special occasion. If my son was in bed by 7pm he would be up at 5am! He has never been a long sleeper.. I wouldn't fream of making him lay in bed for a couple of hours cos that's like a lifetime to him! That's fair enough but even so, would you take him out for a meal so late in the evening, or have him at home winding down after a busy day? My kids are proper lightweights, I often have to scoop my 5 year old off the sofa and put her to bed cos she just crashed out at 6pm lol " It would depend where we go or what the occasion was.. | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " Well said, that man! | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue??? Kids sound definitely learn how to behave in public but they can do that pre-7pm right? Not sure a blanket ban is best, maybe do something more about the kids who can't behave (or parents who make no attempt to control their children). But then again I am old fashioned and don't think under-8s should be up much later than 7 unless it is a special occasion. If my son was in bed by 7pm he would be up at 5am! He has never been a long sleeper.. I wouldn't fream of making him lay in bed for a couple of hours cos that's like a lifetime to him! That's fair enough but even so, would you take him out for a meal so late in the evening, or have him at home winding down after a busy day? My kids are proper lightweights, I often have to scoop my 5 year old off the sofa and put her to bed cos she just crashed out at 6pm lol It would depend where we go or what the occasion was.. " Occasions yes that is different but on a normal evening, possibly a school night, is it likely you would decide you were all going out to a restaurant at 8pm? | |||
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"The restaurant is not the place to teach your child to sit at a table, eat a meal, and wait until he/she is allowed to leave. This starts at home, sit them at a table, take time at EVERY meal,,," Well said! | |||
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"The restaurant is not the place to teach your child to sit at a table, eat a meal, and wait until he/she is allowed to leave. This starts at home, sit them at a table, take time at EVERY meal,,, the French, the Italians, the Germans,, everyone else seems able to do this,,,, but not the brits,, Why??" A lot of british homes don't have room for a dining table? Not all but a fair proportion simply don't have room for a table and chairs big enough for a family. | |||
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"........ A lot of british homes don't have room for a dining table? Not all but a fair proportion simply don't have room for a table and chairs big enough for a family." Maybe have a smaller family. | |||
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"I have never ever allowed children to run around a restaurant - when they are out with me they sit at and remain at the table and behave in an exemplary fashion, failure to do so results in a stern ticking off and if necessary being removed from the restaurant - and children from babies upwards attend restaurants with me " I just took along a pair of leg shackles. Once they're on, there ain't a Harvester anywhere that they can escape from.... | |||
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"........ A lot of british homes don't have room for a dining table? Not all but a fair proportion simply don't have room for a table and chairs big enough for a family. Maybe have a smaller family." That and building better designed housing stock might be the answer, it's also probably another thread. | |||
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"........ ............ That and building better designed housing stock might be the answer, it's also probably another thread." Which has already been given a good verbal kicking. It'd be none the worse for getting another one, mind. | |||
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"The restaurant is not the place to teach your child to sit at a table, eat a meal, and wait until he/she is allowed to leave. This starts at home, sit them at a table, take time at EVERY meal,,, the French, the Italians, the Germans,, everyone else seems able to do this,,,, but not the brits,, Why?? A lot of british homes don't have room for a dining table? Not all but a fair proportion simply don't have room for a table and chairs big enough for a family." I live in a very small house with tiny kitchen. It has always been important to me that we sit at a table and eat together so I had a folding table and folding chairs in the living room and would get it out three times a day for mealtimes. When the ex moved out I had a bit more room in the living room so now I have a different table that is there all the time. If I had a tv I probably wouldn't have room for it but I'd rather have the table than a tv anyday. | |||
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"I have never ever allowed children to run around a restaurant - when they are out with me they sit at and remain at the table and behave in an exemplary fashion, failure to do so results in a stern ticking off and if necessary being removed from the restaurant - and children from babies upwards attend restaurants with me " Me too. Ours love a restaurant and have quite sophisticated tastes. Last year we had a situation where the restaurant was busy and it wasn't possible for us all to sit together. The little ones sat on their own and behaved better than the three tables of adults around them, who were d*unk in charge of their meals at 6.30pm. However, we wouldn't take them to somewhere very, very formal as that is clearly an adult setting. Anytime after 7.30pm it would be fair to assume the space is moving into an adult only zone. | |||
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"I have never ever allowed children to run around a restaurant - when they are out with me they sit at and remain at the table and behave in an exemplary fashion, failure to do so results in a stern ticking off and if necessary being removed from the restaurant - and children from babies upwards attend restaurants with me " Absolutely. And for the record, children are welcome in most restaurants, including evenings in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Eastern European countries as well as Italy, Spain and France. Just my experience as I lived in several of these countries and my children always came with me. | |||
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" I live in a very small house with tiny kitchen. It has always been important to me that we sit at a table and eat together so I had a folding table and folding chairs in the living room and would get it out three times a day for mealtimes. When the ex moved out I had a bit more room in the living room so now I have a different table that is there all the time. If I had a tv I probably wouldn't have room for it but I'd rather have the table than a tv anyday." Not everyone shows the same dedication to their childrens upbringing as others. | |||
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" I live in a very small house with tiny kitchen. It has always been important to me that we sit at a table and eat together so I had a folding table and folding chairs in the living room and would get it out three times a day for mealtimes. When the ex moved out I had a bit more room in the living room so now I have a different table that is there all the time. If I had a tv I probably wouldn't have room for it but I'd rather have the table than a tv anyday. Not everyone shows the same dedication to their childrens upbringing as others." Agreed. And there is of course an element of the parents may not have had the chance to learn some of the parenting skills as they themselves may have had poor role models. | |||
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" I live in a very small house with tiny kitchen. It has always been important to me that we sit at a table and eat together so I had a folding table and folding chairs in the living room and would get it out three times a day for mealtimes. When the ex moved out I had a bit more room in the living room so now I have a different table that is there all the time. If I had a tv I probably wouldn't have room for it but I'd rather have the table than a tv anyday. Not everyone shows the same dedication to their childrens upbringing as others.Agreed. And there is of course an element of the parents may not have had the chance to learn some of the parenting skills as they themselves may have had poor role models." Yes it's a bit of a vicious circle. I remember my sisters doing home economics and cookery at school, which I'm sure they don't do anymore. Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children. | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children." What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. | |||
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"What about when the kids bump into someone carrying hot food or liquid? Who would get the blame if the kid got burnt/scalded? The poor person doing the carrying I bet! Not the kids and certainly not the parents for letting them run round in the first place. Oh no god forbid!!! So it's not only annoying its dangerous. Rant over " Also agreed - they should be kept under control - mine certainly would not have done that. That said mine also really enjoyed going out for dinner and saw it as a privilege they did not want to lose. | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " I'm quite proud of my kid - when we're out he doesn't scream and shout, says his "please & thank you's", sits quietly when we eat anywhere - and if he needs reminding he doesn't kick up a fuss! We always see kids running around screaming and misbehaving, I'd personally say its mainly the parents doing what they do at home by just ignoring them and 'leaving them to it'! It would be nice if a family with kids were making too much noise and being disruptive to others for the staff to give them a warning and if nothing changes be asked to leave - if you can't control your kids why should others have to listen to it?! If mine plays up I would leave purely from embarrassment! | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. " There is more of that now. My nephew has had a term of cookery and food nutrition, which he loved and his given him much more confidence in the kitchen. He made my birthday cake this year, bread and took the initiative to make his own prawn curry. He also has a session on personal development every few weeks which looks at feelings and relationships. I hope this all continues as he moves up the school. | |||
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"I totally agree. Why you would take kids under 7 is beyond me. I want to enjoy my meal. Not rush it because someone's brought their demon kids and don't have the common decency to tell them to shut the fuck up." Are you saying a child of under 7 is incapable of behaving properly in a restaurant? | |||
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"I totally agree. Why you would take kids under 7 is beyond me." Why should people with younger kids not be able to eat out because others go on the general idea that all kids under that age misbehave?! If kids play up and make a nuisance of themselves then yes the families should be told to leave - but why should the kids that behave and enjoy their time out be made to lose out because of others inability to recognise common courtesy and at least attempt to control their kids to not impact on other diners experience?! | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. There is more of that now. My nephew has had a term of cookery and food nutrition, which he loved and his given him much more confidence in the kitchen. He made my birthday cake this year, bread and took the initiative to make his own prawn curry. He also has a session on personal development every few weeks which looks at feelings and relationships. I hope this all continues as he moves up the school." I think there are some parents who genuinely believe that schools should practically raise their children for them. Why not just give birth at the school gates and hand them over? | |||
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"I totally agree. Why you would take kids under 7 is beyond me. Why should people with younger kids not be able to eat out because others go on the general idea that all kids under that age misbehave?! If kids play up and make a nuisance of themselves then yes the families should be told to leave - but why should the kids that behave and enjoy their time out be made to lose out because of others inability to recognise common courtesy and at least attempt to control their kids to not impact on other diners experience?!" This | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. There is more of that now. My nephew has had a term of cookery and food nutrition, which he loved and his given him much more confidence in the kitchen. He made my birthday cake this year, bread and took the initiative to make his own prawn curry. He also has a session on personal development every few weeks which looks at feelings and relationships. I hope this all continues as he moves up the school. I think there are some parents who genuinely believe that schools should practically raise their children for them. Why not just give birth at the school gates and hand them over? " I see that too. It goes with the not speaking to them. I worked with someone many years ago who came into work one morning telling me that she was surprised to discover her son could read. He was seven at this stage and she had never read with him! Mind you she did also leave her daughter in the car park at the supermarket after she'd loaded the car up with the shopping and just drove off. This was someone with a senior role who had a degree. | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. There is more of that now. My nephew has had a term of cookery and food nutrition, which he loved and his given him much more confidence in the kitchen. He made my birthday cake this year, bread and took the initiative to make his own prawn curry. He also has a session on personal development every few weeks which looks at feelings and relationships. I hope this all continues as he moves up the school. I think there are some parents who genuinely believe that schools should practically raise their children for them. Why not just give birth at the school gates and hand them over? I see that too. It goes with the not speaking to them. I worked with someone many years ago who came into work one morning telling me that she was surprised to discover her son could read. He was seven at this stage and she had never read with him! Mind you she did also leave her daughter in the car park at the supermarket after she'd loaded the car up with the shopping and just drove off. This was someone with a senior role who had a degree. " Before she went to school my daughter knew her alphabet, could write her name, knew her address and date of birth, colours, shapes, animals. Many children do not know these basics at 5, 6, 7. No wonder they cannot behave in restaurants. | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " Well said Jack & Kate | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. " There we go again expecting schools too teach our kids everything now, when will people get it it their head us as parents have to take the responsibility how our Kid are brought up or in some cases dragged up, and not expect it to be done in school Grrrrrrrr | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue???" well always taking my g/kids out for meals but lunchtime or teatime. To be honest when I as an adult want to go out for a meal during the evening I dont want kids running around so I think younger children should be excluded from about 8.00 xx | |||
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" Maybe the schools should be teaching more life skills to some school children.What a good point! I ,too believe that next to English, Maths, Science and MFL our kids should have lessons in how to form and maintain healthy relationships as well. There is more of that now. My nephew has had a term of cookery and food nutrition, which he loved and his given him much more confidence in the kitchen. He made my birthday cake this year, bread and took the initiative to make his own prawn curry. He also has a session on personal development every few weeks which looks at feelings and relationships. I hope this all continues as he moves up the school. I think there are some parents who genuinely believe that schools should practically raise their children for them. Why not just give birth at the school gates and hand them over? I see that too. It goes with the not speaking to them. I worked with someone many years ago who came into work one morning telling me that she was surprised to discover her son could read. He was seven at this stage and she had never read with him! Mind you she did also leave her daughter in the car park at the supermarket after she'd loaded the car up with the shopping and just drove off. This was someone with a senior role who had a degree. Before she went to school my daughter knew her alphabet, could write her name, knew her address and date of birth, colours, shapes, animals. Many children do not know these basics at 5, 6, 7. No wonder they cannot behave in restaurants. " I was teaching weights and measures, along with word problems, to a top set year 4 class in an affluent area. After being asked to weigh the selection of foodstuffs I had provided, a variety of fruits and vegetables and dried goods, they had to use those numbers to answer some questions, for example 'what is the total combined weight of all the fruit?'. Of all the stumbling blocks I had anticipated, I had not foreseen a group of supposedly bright 8 and 9 year olds not knowing the difference between a fruit and a vegetable. | |||
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"As a child i never ever went inside a pub, maybe the garden with a bag of crisps and a vimto. And god help us if we misbehaved . Plus we never ate out anywhere. Home only. And on a personal note, i dont think kids should go into pubs. but thats just me. " Certain 'family friendly' pubs i don't see a problem with (wetherspoons and such) My opinion was in the restaurant/fast food/cafe etc setting | |||
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"As for us all sitting around the table having evening meal together, hand in heart how many families can do that these day's. Ourselves as a family we maybe manage to do that 1 day through the week and the odd Sunday all because of work " Really good point - I did that with mine at least a couple of times a week and my children tell me today how much they appreciate knowing what to do with a knife and fork | |||
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"As for us all sitting around the table having evening meal together, hand in heart how many families can do that these day's. Ourselves as a family we maybe manage to do that 1 day through the week and the odd Sunday all because of work Really good point - I did that with mine at least a couple of times a week and my children tell me today how much they appreciate knowing what to do with a knife and fork " The kids ALWAYS sit at the dinner table together to eat their dinner - no exceptions. However, I rarely sit and eat with them as I don't live with them anymore, but every now and then it does happen as I always had dinner at the dinner table as a kid with my parents I must be old-fashioned lol | |||
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"As for us all sitting around the table having evening meal together, hand in heart how many families can do that these day's. Ourselves as a family we maybe manage to do that 1 day through the week and the odd Sunday all because of work Really good point - I did that with mine at least a couple of times a week and my children tell me today how much they appreciate knowing what to do with a knife and fork The kids ALWAYS sit at the dinner table together to eat their dinner - no exceptions. However, I rarely sit and eat with them as I don't live with them anymore, but every now and then it does happen as I always had dinner at the dinner table as a kid with my parents I must be old-fashioned lol " our kids always sat at the table together, oops kid we only have the 1, but as a family it's hard to all to be able to sit down together | |||
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"in america there is a growing trend for this... for example no under 8's after 7pm I have been in places when i have eaten when you hear kids screaming and it doesn't always make for the best atmosphere... but then I can see the arguement for teaching kids how they should behave in public... so it is a fine line.... I like the idea but know some wont... where would you stand on the issue???" I would whole heartedly agree with it. | |||
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"As for us all sitting around the table having evening meal together, hand in heart how many families can do that these day's. Ourselves as a family we maybe manage to do that 1 day through the week and the odd Sunday all because of work " We do - unless there's something good on TV I can understand restaurants having a cut off time - although parents not parenting their kids is a problem at any time. I tell other peoples kids if they're getting on my nerves - if nothing else they then go on and get on somebody else's nerves. | |||
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"Growing up we always had dinner at the dinner table...my parents love eating out so we were regularly out for dinner with parents friends and we were aware that we had to be on our best behaviour....eating out taught us how to behave in public " Best way! | |||
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"You go out for a Nice romantic meal you don't want kids running and screaming around The pub plus there Are chains of pubs that Are child friendly " I would actively seek out the ones that are not child friendly..... | |||
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"You go out for a Nice romantic meal you don't want kids running and screaming around The pub plus there Are chains of pubs that Are child friendly " Exactly my point. Children should be children but then they should also be controlled by their parents. That said, I like their innocent laughter and giggles | |||
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"You go out for a Nice romantic meal you don't want kids running and screaming around The pub plus there Are chains of pubs that Are child friendly I would actively seek out the ones that are not child friendly....." Totally agree with that you want quality time together | |||
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"You go out for a Nice romantic meal you don't want kids running and screaming around The pub plus there Are chains of pubs that Are child friendly Exactly my point. Children should be children but then they should also be controlled by their parents. That said, I like their innocent laughter and giggles" True there's a time and a place I to. Love their innocence I have been The butt of many of the children comments mummy look at that fat man it is always said when The pub is silent and the parents face is always a picture I Love their honesty aswell | |||
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"I make sure I go to restaurants in the evening that are expensive enough to ward off most families with kids...." That is of course, your choice. And I can understand to a degree when you want a nice quiet meal with your partner.... I would probably do the same and I would pick a more upmarket restaurant over a Harvester. That said, my kids know how to behave in all kinds of places BECAUSE I took them and taught them. | |||
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"Not all children are screaming brats that will spoil your dining experience. I think d*unk rowdy adults are more likely to personally." I dislike d*unken, rowdy behaviour in men and tarty, ladette and fishwife behaviour in women anywhere. | |||
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"I make sure I go to restaurants in the evening that are expensive enough to ward off most families with kids....That is of course, your choice. And I can understand to a degree when you want a nice quiet meal with your partner.... I would probably do the same and I would pick a more upmarket restaurant over a Harvester. That said, my kids know how to behave in all kinds of places BECAUSE I took them and taught them. " True But you teach them Right from wrong from day one and that includeds table manners and being excused from The table when finished and Not before | |||
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"I make sure I go to restaurants in the evening that are expensive enough to ward off most families with kids....That is of course, your choice. And I can understand to a degree when you want a nice quiet meal with your partner.... I would probably do the same and I would pick a more upmarket restaurant over a Harvester. That said, my kids know how to behave in all kinds of places BECAUSE I took them and taught them. True But you teach them Right from wrong from day one and that includeds table manners and being excused from The table when finished and Not before" Yes I did - | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand I'm quite proud of my kid - when we're out he doesn't scream and shout, says his "please & thank you's", sits quietly when we eat anywhere - and if he needs reminding he doesn't kick up a fuss! We always see kids running around screaming and misbehaving, I'd personally say its mainly the parents doing what they do at home by just ignoring them and 'leaving them to it'! It would be nice if a family with kids were making too much noise and being disruptive to others for the staff to give them a warning and if nothing changes be asked to leave - if you can't control your kids why should others have to listen to it?! If mine plays up I would leave purely from embarrassment!" Tell him how good he is and point out how well behaved he is compared to other kids when you're out. | |||
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"I make sure I go to restaurants in the evening that are expensive enough to ward off most families with kids....That is of course, your choice. And I can understand to a degree when you want a nice quiet meal with your partner.... I would probably do the same and I would pick a more upmarket restaurant over a Harvester. That said, my kids know how to behave in all kinds of places BECAUSE I took them and taught them. True But you teach them Right from wrong from day one and that includeds table manners and being excused from The table when finished and Not beforeYes I did - " Fairplay But young families now a dqys Let their kids eat their meals in front of The tv on a tray | |||
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"It's the same everywhere, not just pubs. Supermarkets and clothes shops there's always kids screaming and running around. The parents ignore the kids so no wonder they are running around,they are bored out of their skulls! I've seen some parents out with their kids and the parent has earphones in listening to music. That really annoys me. I was always chatting to the kids to keep them entertained, from being a baby. Whenever we go out anywhere I always take a book or toy or something for them to look at/ play with. I look at the kids running around sometimes and I can see the desperation in their eyes- they just want some attention. " Goes back to what I said earlier... we ... all of us... are role models. Now I do swear occasionally (I know it is hard ot believe lol) but I do not ever do it in front of children for that reason. I do not get d*unk in front of children. I do not have rows in front of children. I try (I dont always succeed) to behave ina respectful manner towards other people for that very reason. | |||
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"I make sure I go to restaurants in the evening that are expensive enough to ward off most families with kids....That is of course, your choice. And I can understand to a degree when you want a nice quiet meal with your partner.... I would probably do the same and I would pick a more upmarket restaurant over a Harvester. That said, my kids know how to behave in all kinds of places BECAUSE I took them and taught them. True But you teach them Right from wrong from day one and that includeds table manners and being excused from The table when finished and Not beforeYes I did - Fairplay But young families now a dqys Let their kids eat their meals in front of The tv on a tray " Not all! | |||
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"There is another thought to this.... how are children meant to learn how to behave in public, in a restaurant and anywhere really unless they have been exposed to the situation and the environment? " I am sure they could learn before night time. I agree with a cut off time at night | |||
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"It's not hard to avoid eating places where there are no children about if thats what you want. If I've ever taken my kids out to I've taken them to child friendly places where there are play grounds etc to keep them occupied, they are kids after all and expecting them to sit quietly at a table for 2 hours is rather like expecting a puppy not to chew and chase a ball !!! For other times when I've been out with adults we gone to different places, and I've never had a problem with kids at these places as they are not there. A" as parents of a 3 and 5 year old we could not agree more. It is all about preperation. We always take colouring books, story books and stuff like that to keep them amused. We go to child friendly restaurants(we find Italian is always a safe bet).And they are not allowed to get up and run around. we would never dream of taking them to a restaurant after 6pm. We do however feel it us important for children to experience the experience of eating out at a young age. | |||
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"My OH is half Sicilian, been to sicily and italy as most of his relatives are there, they have a completely different approach to children, they love them and would never dream of excluding them. A child is a gift, and their community spirit is second to none, they would never refer to children in a derogatory manner!! My daughter is treated as one of their own no matter how long it is Since we last went, and we would never be turned away from any establishment because of her age, no matter what time it is!!! This country is so child unfriendly!! " exactly why we always go to Italians with our kids to eat...... | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " | |||
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"They should just kick out the noisy brats (kids and adults!) and leave the rest of us in peace. My kids are well behaved and they often sit there in disgust watching other people's kids running around screaming. " | |||
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"It's not the kids that bother me, it's the attitudes of their "couldn't give a fuck" parents that I can't stand " well said | |||
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"I agree with comments re: parenting. There's no reason for children to be running about in restaurants. When inwas a waitress years ago it was a nightmare and I never understood why they were allowed to do it, having never been allowed myself as a child. " You'd have thought it wouldn't be beyond the wit of a waitress to 'accidentally' drop something cold but messy on one of the parents of a child running around their workplace | |||
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"My children do not mess about in restaurants.. they have been going since tiny babies and are used to it... I don't think they should be banned, but really don't think except for special occasions kids would be eating out at that time anyway.. " Eating times is quite a cultural thing though. I was brought up in European style households where eating our evening meal tended to start at 7:30 and go on for 2-3 hours depending on whether in or out. | |||
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"With all these kids running around making noise, it's astounding that we have a childhood obesity epidemic really " Lol | |||
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