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"It's a bit much have to retake every 10 years. I'm learning just now and it's hard enough let alone when u get into habits doing things own way rather than the daft perfect thry wave for test " is it not the daft perfect thry wave for test for a reason ? | |||
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"Would possibly improve some of the driving standards, I'm a gas safe engineer and have to resit my exams every 5 years, if I'm not competent it would put peoples lives at risk, same as bad driving yet you can drive for over 60-70 years on the strength of one test. Gas Safe is more expensive than a driving test to... Would need a lot more driving test examiners though so would create jobs and improve safety on the roads, so could be a good thing. " Good points and a quality posting as per usual ![]() | |||
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"I'm not sure about a full re-test every ten years but I do think it would be a good idea to have to drive around for half an hour with an examiner just to check that you're not dangerous and maybe dropping to every other year beyond the age of say 65 or 70. " Makes lot more sense for older drivers. Maybe do that every 4-6 years over age of 60 but not as strict a test more checking safe driving aspect | |||
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"It's a bit much have to retake every 10 years. I'm learning just now and it's hard enough let alone when u get into habits doing things own way rather than the daft perfect thry wave for test " And this illustrates why it would be a good idea to retest. Maybe after the first 5 years drivers should have to sit an advanced driving course then retest on that at a set time. After the britains worst drivers I'm of the opinion that if you cannot pass a driving test within 10 attempts (I'm feeling generous tonight) you should be given a bus pass and shown the door... Some people have no spatial awareness and really shouldn't be in control of a vehicle on a public highway. | |||
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" ![]() ![]() The title is based on a true story from a friend who wears bifocal glasses and has borderline vision. Some years ago he was taking driving lessons and with the test about to come up his father took him out for a drive. My friend was really concerned regarding the 20 metre reading a number plate element of the test. His dad measured out 20 metres and my friend was just about able to read out the plate correctly. Come the day of the test my friend drives off and the examiner points to a vehicle of roughly 20 metres distance away. "Can you read me the plate on that mini to your left please Sir ?" Friend replied - " I can barely see a mini " and promptly failed said test. He appealed against the failure stating that the car must have been well over 20 metres away and referenced that he had checked his eyesight with a dummy test prior. After some delay he received a free retest where he read the plate of a closer car and promptly passed his test ![]() | |||
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"Yeah think should be a cap of number times can take test as unlimited attempts of course will eventually pass. Barely legal drivers is good idea of having a camera monitor driving randomly for an hour see what like under real conditions if fail have to take a full test. Retaking full test would put off lot people driving not just the boy racers" A friend has passed her test withing the last 12 months, and although not a fast driver, hasn't got a clue about lane discipline, her insurance company fits a black box which sends data to them, as she is on limited miles, if she drives sensibly they add free miles onto the total as the year progresses. My Dad was a hgv driver, never took a hgv test as he got it by grandfathers rights when they brought the hgv licences into circulation. Their bosses just had to sign a form stating that they had been driving wagons for x amount of time. They changed the rules in the early 90's saying you had to have perfect vision and as he was blind in one eye from childhood they revoked his licence. He got it back with a letter from a solicitor due to grandfathers rights again. He crushed a lot of cars in his time ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm not sure about a full re-test every ten years but I do think it would be a good idea to have to drive around for half an hour with an examiner just to check that you're not dangerous and maybe dropping to every other year beyond the age of say 65 or 70. " Totally agree.... I'd be happy to do this.... I know I've picked up some "seasoned driver" habits in the last 30 years.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Defo refresher tests. Road laws are always changing. Like if you're one of them nobheads who drives in the middle of the motorway at 60mph, your days are numbered!!!!!! " This really, if nothing else it will bring people up to scratch on new rules and regs. Motorway driving could be taught better, but not always practical, the nearest motorway to Plymouth is about 40 ish miles away. I hate it when you get someone who doesn't know how to join a motorway/dual carriageway and ends up stopped at the very end of a slip road trying to join a national speed limit road from a standstill... ![]() | |||
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"The standards of vision of some drivers concerns me greatly. I work in an opticians and every single day we see people who can clearly not read a number plate at the 20 metre distance but who do not/will not wear glasses or contact lenses. Our opticians tell them that they must wear glasses for driving but it is sometimes obvious that they will not do as they have been told. Their vanity seems much more important to them than their own safety and the safety of others around them " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The standards of vision of some drivers concerns me greatly. I work in an opticians and every single day we see people who can clearly not read a number plate at the 20 metre distance but who do not/will not wear glasses or contact lenses. Our opticians tell them that they must wear glasses for driving but it is sometimes obvious that they will not do as they have been told. Their vanity seems much more important to them than their own safety and the safety of others around them " In my job I'm legally obliged to report unsafe situations to the HSE, maybe opticians should be under obligation to report failures to the DVLA or whatever they call themselves these days. They could then issue them with a notice that requires them to wear glasses/contacts whilst driving. This would then be available to the police during the course of their inquires if they are stopped or have an accident. Putting peoples lives after their own vanity is really not acceptable. I have heard it said that the road is a very forgiving place, in that we all at times make mistakes, and 99.99% of the time we get away with them... | |||
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"The standards of vision of some drivers concerns me greatly. I work in an opticians and every single day we see people who can clearly not read a number plate at the 20 metre distance but who do not/will not wear glasses or contact lenses. Our opticians tell them that they must wear glasses for driving but it is sometimes obvious that they will not do as they have been told. Their vanity seems much more important to them than their own safety and the safety of others around them In my job I'm legally obliged to report unsafe situations to the HSE, maybe opticians should be under obligation to report failures to the DVLA or whatever they call themselves these days. They could then issue them with a notice that requires them to wear glasses/contacts whilst driving. This would then be available to the police during the course of their inquires if they are stopped or have an accident. Putting peoples lives after their own vanity is really not acceptable. I have heard it said that the road is a very forgiving place, in that we all at times make mistakes, and 99.99% of the time we get away with them..." Unfortunately in most cases all that can be done is to document in the patient records the fact that the patient has been told that glasses must be worn. However, in the case of certain eye diseases or conditions the driver must declare them and the dvla will send the driver for additional tests before they allow them to drive | |||
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"Another way to screw yet more money out of motorists. road tax, fuel tax, vat on fuel and the fuel tax, tax on insurance, parking fees, tax on having a company car, tax on parking at work, congestion charges and then a fee to renew your licence every 10 years- unless you manage to retain your paper one....yes, pile it on- its fine ![]() Theory and practical tests currently cost £93 combined, so £9.30 a year less than 3 pints a year. What price would you put on (possibly) lives saved, or at the least getting all those crap drivers out of the way ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The eyesight issue bothers me too. I wear glasses or contact lenses all the time and have done since before school age. I still get comments from people about my eyesight but my sight gets tested every year and properly corrected. When I pass comment about an opticians appointment an awful lot of people say they really should go. What's really scary is the fact that many of them haven't had a sight test for years! ![]() I had one about 18 months ago through a work related thing, that was the first one in about a decade, prior to that every 5 years for a work related medical. Didn't realise you should have one at that frequency, luckily I've never failed one. | |||
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"Age related sight degeneration can begin in the late thirties, so all those who are sure their eyesight is perfect (cos it was when their mum used to take them for a sight test) really ought to consider getting it checked. Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Age related sight degeneration can begin in the late thirties, so all those who are sure their eyesight is perfect (cos it was when their mum used to take them for a sight test) really ought to consider getting it checked. Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() ![]() ![]() Just out of curiosity when was your last sight test? | |||
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"Age related sight degeneration can begin in the late thirties, so all those who are sure their eyesight is perfect (cos it was when their mum used to take them for a sight test) really ought to consider getting it checked. Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() ![]() ![]() As an ultra honest guy ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Age related sight degeneration can begin in the late thirties, so all those who are sure their eyesight is perfect (cos it was when their mum used to take them for a sight test) really ought to consider getting it checked. Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Last year. Ever thought you might be Mr Magoo and didn't even realise it? | |||
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" As an ultra honest guy ![]() ![]() Someone needs a boots card lol | |||
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"Age related sight degeneration can begin in the late thirties, so all those who are sure their eyesight is perfect (cos it was when their mum used to take them for a sight test) really ought to consider getting it checked. Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I did sit watching my microwave for twenty minutes recently cursing the reception on BBC4 ![]() ![]() | |||
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"A local elderly chap is frankly in pseudo Mr Magoo territory. He recently told me that he's a trifle economical with the truth when filling out his driving licence renewal form regarding the vision question. I shudder to think at how many similar scenarios exist on our roads ? Should you have to pass your driving test the once only and that's it ? Would road deaths and accident statistics significantly be reduced by bringing in legislation on retesting at a certain age ? How about having to pass your test every say ten years regardless of your age as drivers can get lazy re bad habits and rusty to the highway code ? If you receive a driving ban for whatever reason should you have to pass a fresh test to prove competency ? ![]() I think the sight test should be every year a lot change in twelve months with your eyes ![]() | |||
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"Two different issues going on here: first, driver training. We are abysmally crap at training drivers in this country and it's high time we faced up to the fact. ted." utter rubbish. It is well known that the UK test is one of the hardest driving tests in the world to pass. A lot of countries check you can go back, forwards, turn around, well done here's your license. Clarkson has driven in almost every country in the wotld and still rates us as some of the best drivers. USA allows 16 year olds to drive. How many y11 schoolkids in this country would you trust to drive s car properly to the standard you expect? Your motorway point is spot on though, it should be part of the training/test. The real problem is that people just don't give driving a 1.5ton steel killing machine the attention it deserves when they are behind the wheel. Food, texting, make up, stereo, whatever all seem to be more important | |||
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"Glasses are actually every 4 years testing contact lenses every 2 years. I do agree there should be a way opticians inform dvla if patient needs glasses for driving. £93 is poss today's price for test but it goes up each year and doesn't take into account couple of lessons to brush up skills for test. The test is lot stricter than the driving u do after pass. 10 years is too often for refresh retest.aybe every 20yrs fairer then every 3-5 when 65+ but defo not full test maybe just an examiner in car for 45mins 10 theory questions and sight check " Incorrect! A standard recall for a sight test is every 2 years but may be sooner if the optometrist deems it medically necessary. For contact lenses the maximum is two years but standard practise with most CLO's is to recall patients every 12 months. Contact lens check ups are an additional test that goes along side a standard sight test. | |||
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" Btw if you have a Boots advantage card and have registered it every so often their is a voucher for a free test. ![]() If you don't have a card go onto the boots opticians website and print off a voucher for a half price test. Any staff member of Boots can have an eye test and retinal photography done free every two years. Anyone care to guess which opticians I work for lol ![]() | |||
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"Two different issues going on here: first, driver training. We are abysmally crap at training drivers in this country and it's high time we faced up to the fact. ted.utter rubbish. It is well known that the UK test is one of the hardest driving tests in the world to pass. " Suggest you go and look at what it takes to get your licence in Finland... and then tell me we have 'one of the hardest driving tests in the world'.... | |||
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"Not sure about an actual blanket driving retest beyond a certain age, due to the cost etc but, it is perfectly possible to test someones reaction times, peripheral vision (I had mine tested during a medical for the military when I was 19-20, but have never had it tested at any eye test since), hazard perception and so on - basically all the factors which have a strong influence over someones safety on the road, without the need to actually go out on it. When I get to 60-65 I would have no problem being 'summoned' to take such a test maybe every 3 years to keep my license. If they found I was no longer up to it, then that's fine with me. Running a car is a pain in the arse sometimes, and do I really want all that in my retirement? Nope. Not really. Sooner spend it on a holiday in Spain.. ted." Yes that's a good point, set some simulators up and do it in a virtual reality setup, one person could then supervise multiple exams which would reduce the costs whilst testing reaction times etc. | |||
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" USA allows 16 year olds to drive. How many y11 schoolkids in this country would you trust to drive s car properly to the standard you expect? Your motorway point is spot on though, it should be part of the training/test. " 16 yr olds can also drive here on the IOM with supervision but cannot take a take a test until they are 17. Also, please suggest a location for motorway driving during our driving test seeing as there aren't motorways over here. Or should we just never drive on UK roads? | |||
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"Glasses are actually every 4 years testing contact lenses every 2 years. I do agree there should be a way opticians inform dvla if patient needs glasses for driving. £93 is poss today's price for test but it goes up each year and doesn't take into account couple of lessons to brush up skills for test. The test is lot stricter than the driving u do after pass. 10 years is too often for refresh retest.aybe every 20yrs fairer then every 3-5 when 65+ but defo not full test maybe just an examiner in car for 45mins 10 theory questions and sight check Incorrect! A standard recall for a sight test is every 2 years but may be sooner if the optometrist deems it medically necessary. For contact lenses the maximum is two years but standard practise with most CLO's is to recall patients every 12 months. Contact lens check ups are an additional test that goes along side a standard sight test." According to nhs contacts lenses are 2 years,more than that is bit extreme and weaken your eyes as they won't change enough. Glasses I'm not sure maybe got mixed up with non glasses wearing us every 4 years as I got my latest glasses approx 3 years ago but then got retested this year partly due to my request part was computer error. Defo need new lenses a&e least tho my glasses are actually still legal for driving strangely | |||
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