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"im thinking of the child, kids at school can be cruel..theyll think hes his granddad... but peter can afford to have a child unlike many who have 3 before theyre 21 and all benefit babies... but in reality WHO'D ACTUALLY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PETER STRINGFELLOW!!! HES HORRIBLE YAK" I wonder how much his money had to do with her getting pregnant?! Cuz without his money who would go near him?! | |||
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"I can't help thinking he is a sad old man just trying to say I am still active and firing on all cylinders. We all are allowed to do these things our own way I would not have children over 45 personally. " I think you might be right. Is this just a case of him proving a point or trying to anyway. The sad thing is that there is a child involved who will never really get to know his father! Plus I can't understand why anyone would want to get jiggy with the Stringy anyway | |||
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"I can't help thinking he is a sad old man just trying to say I am still active and firing on all cylinders. We all are allowed to do these things our own way I would not have children over 45 personally. I think you might be right. Is this just a case of him proving a point or trying to anyway. The sad thing is that there is a child involved who will never really get to know his father! Plus I can't understand why anyone would want to get jiggy with the Stringy anyway " I can think of 40 Million reasons why people might find the idea of Stringy attractive | |||
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"Utterly selfish and totally unfair on the child. My dad was in his 50's when he had me - I could never talk to him properly across the age gap and lost so much - It still hurts.... Don't have children unless you can expect to be there with them while they grow up..!!!" If you're 50 when you have children and live to the average life expectancy they'll be early 30's when you die. I'd say early 50's is fine, but 60's and 70's starts to cause real issues. Having said that I know two different people who've had dads that were 50+when they were born and the had a cracking time with them growing up. It's not the age, it's the person | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child." But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all. | |||
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"I can't help thinking he is a sad old man just trying to say I am still active and firing on all cylinders. We all are allowed to do these things our own way I would not have children over 45 personally. I think you might be right. Is this just a case of him proving a point or trying to anyway. The sad thing is that there is a child involved who will never really get to know his father! Plus I can't understand why anyone would want to get jiggy with the Stringy anyway I can think of 40 Million reasons why people might find the idea of Stringy attractive " I met him at the club when I was in my early 20s - ugh! | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child. But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all." True - but then he would not have left a young woman widowed with 10 children either, in a country which has no social security (evidently not this one). | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child. But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all. True - but then he would not have left a young woman widowed with 10 children either, in a country which has no social security (evidently not this one). " I can't raise much sympathy for a woman who allows herself to have 10 weans. | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child. But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all. True - but then he would not have left a young woman widowed with 10 children either, in a country which has no social security (evidently not this one). I can't raise much sympathy for a woman who allows herself to have 10 weans." It's not so simple - this was in a Middle East country. Little access to birth control. | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child. But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all. True - but then he would not have left a young woman widowed with 10 children either, in a country which has no social security (evidently not this one). I can't raise much sympathy for a woman who allows herself to have 10 weans. It's not so simple - this was in a Middle East country. Little access to birth control." Abstinence? | |||
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"My hubby's father died when he was 3 because he was an elderly dad. So he never knew what it was like to have a father - very unfair on the child. But without that elderly dad, the child wouldn't have existed at all. True - but then he would not have left a young woman widowed with 10 children either, in a country which has no social security (evidently not this one). I can't raise much sympathy for a woman who allows herself to have 10 weans. It's not so simple - this was in a Middle East country. Little access to birth control. Abstinence?" FFS!! Middle East! A woman's duty, etc, etc. And that is not what the argument is about! She was left, as a young mum, of 10. 5 of them were hers and 5 were from his previous marriage (his first wife had died). At least two of his children were below school age - he was well into his 70s. My hubby always said that he felt he lost out by not really having a father. THAT is the point! 70s is too old to be a parent. | |||
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"............. 70s is too old to be a parent." I agree but what would you have him do/ not do. Not have sex? Isn't that the abstinence you mock? | |||
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"............. 70s is too old to be a parent. I agree but what would you have him do/ not do. Not have sex? Isn't that the abstinence you mock?" I wasn't mocking abstinence if you actually look at the whole post. And Stringfellow does have easy access to birth control. | |||
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"Inconsiderate in my opinion " What is? | |||
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"FFS! sounds pretty mocking to me." Look at the entire context - this was a Muslim woman in the Middle East married off to a much older man who was a widower. SHE would have had no option to abstain. That is what the ffs was about. Not about the abstinence and I also pointed out that it was irrelevant since my point was about someone who had lost their elderly father at the age of 3 - the mother's or father's abstinence was an irrelevance to that point. | |||
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"FFS! sounds pretty mocking to me. Look at the entire context - this was a Muslim woman in the Middle East married off ................ " I'd have picked up on this by PM but for some reason we can't talk. What surprises me the most is that when I suggested abstinence, you assumed I was talking about the woman. | |||
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"FFS! sounds pretty mocking to me. Look at the entire context - this was a Muslim woman in the Middle East married off ................ I'd have picked up on this by PM but for some reason we can't talk. What surprises me the most is that when I suggested abstinence, you assumed I was talking about the woman." Do you realise that even abstinence by the male is generally frowned on? It is a duty to produce children. Many Muslim families have more than 4 children for that reason - and I speak from the experience of having had Muslim in-laws. | |||
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"Well he can be pretty confident that his child will be provided for. My Dad died when I was two. Nobody can be sure how long they'll be around when they have a child so I'm not sure the life expectancy argument is too relevant." But if you are in your 70s having a child you are more likely not to be around for the teens than if you are in you 30s or 40s. | |||
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"............. Do you realise that even abstinence by the male is generally frowned on? It is a duty to produce children..........." I'm unsure 'who' frowns upon this or how anyone would know. | |||
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"Well he can be pretty confident that his child will be provided for. My Dad died when I was two. Nobody can be sure how long they'll be around when they have a child so I'm not sure the life expectancy argument is too relevant. But if you are in your 70s having a child you are more likely not to be around for the teens than if you are in you 30s or 40s." How can you know? If you're in ill health fair enough - but even then, what say for a husband with a terminal illness who chooses to have a child, knowing they won't be around but wanting still to have a child together? Stringfellow can probably devote most of his time to a young child for most if not all of it's childhood. That's more than I got and my father was a young bloke. | |||
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"Well he can be pretty confident that his child will be provided for. My Dad died when I was two. Nobody can be sure how long they'll be around when they have a child so I'm not sure the life expectancy argument is too relevant. But if you are in your 70s having a child you are more likely not to be around for the teens than if you are in you 30s or 40s. How can you know? If you're in ill health fair enough - but even then, what say for a husband with a terminal illness who chooses to have a child, knowing they won't be around but wanting still to have a child together? Stringfellow can probably devote most of his time to a young child for most if not all of it's childhood. That's more than I got and my father was a young bloke." I am talking in general terms here - but, in general, the life expectancy of a 30 year old is greater than that of a 70 year old. A 70 year old is much more likely to suffer from life-threatening ailments. | |||
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"Clearly - but on the other hand there are many really fit 70 year olds about now. There are also a lot of absent fathers at all ages. It could be argued that he's in a better position than many younger men to parent a child. That doesn't make it any less 'icky' of course." Yes, but statistically he is less likely to be around than if he was 30 which I find really sad for the child. And money won't necessarily make him a good father - personally I think the man is vile in his approach to women. Is that a good role model for any child? | |||
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"Ya know all Jealous. If I'm still poking the hole at 72 with 30 year old well-boobed blonde chicks I'm happy! You go fella!! P.S but kids at 72 is a bit old mate. " 'poking the hole'? Offensive! | |||
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" 'poking the hole'? Offensive!" Ya know what I mean!!! Not being offensive. | |||
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"I wonder if this is more to do with the fact we find peter string thingy quite horrific or his age? Charlie Chaplin and a long line of movie stars have children into their 50's (dads mostly) my ex was born to parents both in their 40's no one was offended by them " Wasn't Chaplin much much older? I remember at the time thinking it was pretty yuck but I think I was a teen at the time. Parents in their 40s is far more common now - but beyond 70 is something else. In fact, my gran had my mum when she was 42. | |||
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"I wonder if this is more to do with the fact we find peter string thingy quite horrific or his age? Charlie Chaplin and a long line of movie stars have children into their 50's (dads mostly) my ex was born to parents both in their 40's no one was offended by them " There is a huge difference between men in their 40's and 50's and someone who's 72! | |||
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"I say good for them....Even if you have kids young there is no guarantee you will see them grow up ...so what if he is 72....you see men like des oconnor who fathered a child in his 70's...." And I thought that was wrong too. | |||
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"Has just become a father again at the age of 72. Lucky guy..... Seriously do you think a man of this age should be having children?" He's obviously still got lead in his pencil then. | |||
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"Has just become a father again at the age of 72. Lucky guy..... Seriously do you think a man of this age should be having children? He's obviously still got lead in his pencil then. " Doesn't mean he will be a good father. | |||
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"Has just become a father again at the age of 72. Lucky guy..... Seriously do you think a man of this age should be having children? He's obviously still got lead in his pencil then. Doesn't mean he will be a good father. " Or a bad one. | |||
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