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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely.

Does it make much difference though?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

What is 'General Knowledge' has changed.

it's not sufficient to knock the present because it has moved on from the past.

Where's your tie .. ?

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

Well that depends if those kids are wanting to do well in education as celebrity trivia knowledge is seldom required in exam papers

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

When jay and I where on holiday we won the quiz by a mile. I knew the trivia questions and he knew all the interlectural ones

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

"When jay and I where on holiday we won the quiz by a mile. I knew the trivia questions and he knew all the interlectural ones"

If between you you're great at both areas you can hardly fail in any quiz

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I started a thread Pointless v The Chase about a year ago. I watch both as and when I can, and it amazes me as to how much information a young person can actually have.

*courtesy of the useless information department*

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Only if we let them. There's nothing compulsory about shite television and tabloid papers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

YES

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

YES"

That said one can easily curve round and avoid by simply refusing to watch/read any medium spewing out such dirges. I manage successfully to avoid it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

"Ah, would that it were - would that it were!"

See what I did there....? huh...

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

"Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

"Ah, would that it were - would that it were!"

See what I did there....? huh...

Yup! You've a trifle cunningly answered the football thread question here

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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago

Retirement Village

"Are we living in an age where celebrity trivia and gossip are king ?

In an age where facts are available instantly at a touch of a button have we become lazy to learning ?

I recently watched an old final of the family quiz show " Ask the family " from the 1970's on tv.

The range of knowledge that the children had in each family re literature,geography,history and science was hugely impressive.

I can't help feeling that most modern kids would be stumped regarding most of the questions but could name Beyonce's latest fragrance,each member of the Saturdays or Jordan's latest squeeze.

As much as i want to disagree with this i really can't cause you're right

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear."

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?"
are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years

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By *artinichilled1TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Ive heard from people ive met from other countries say that the media in uk is interested in celebs.Tbh I dont read newspapers or telivision much these days as its mostly manipulated.Think for your self.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear old Andy Warhol was proven right!

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years"

Beckham is an interesting one as he's both a celeb for being David Beckham and has achieved things as well.

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over a year ago

"For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

Lol even that hasn't helped me :-/ who is he?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All you need to know is google's web address and you can know everything. The media have been feeding us on press releases for decades as its cheaper than employing reporters only matters if you listen to them.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years"

Years and years and years but celebrity isn't just about longevity. There has to be an element of quality and class about it.

That's why (someone like) Grace Kelly, even after her death, remains a celebrity in a way Beckham will never be.

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

"For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

Lol even that hasn't helped me :-/ who is he? "

Er he was apparently a erm " character " in that ghastly Big Brother twoddle one year and I wish I didn't know that

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years

Years and years and years but celebrity isn't just about longevity. There has to be an element of quality and class about it.

That's why (someone like) Grace Kelly, even after her death, remains a celebrity in a way Beckham will never be."
no one said he was, but you laughed when he was called a celebrity, and love him or hate him hecis a celebrity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

Lol even that hasn't helped me :-/ who is he?

Er he was apparently a erm " character " in that ghastly Big Brother twoddle one year and I wish I didn't know that

Hahahahahaha well THAT'S blown ya cover! Ya may as well come clean now n confess u receive OK n Hello buy direct debit subscription lol

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years

Years and years and years but celebrity isn't just about longevity. There has to be an element of quality and class about it.

That's why (someone like) Grace Kelly, even after her death, remains a celebrity in a way Beckham will never be.no one said he was, but you laughed when he was called a celebrity, and love him or hate him hecis a celebrity"

Nah, he's a well known person who's married to another (even better known?) person.

Both are a long way shy of being celebrities.

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

On a par with that a friends daughter went to one of those awful impersonator concerts of a bogus T rex band and went up to the singer to get his autograph at the end.

This he duly signed " Marc Bolan " and I explained the bizzare circumstance of her now being the proud owner of a fake autograph by a fake performer

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years

Years and years and years but celebrity isn't just about longevity. There has to be an element of quality and class about it.

Nah, he's a well known person who's married to another (even better known?) person.

Both are a long way shy of being celebrities."
i guess you will stand alone on that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah yes Mrs Beckham famous for..... er........

Bein in end if spice girls........er.........pouting.......er........attending royal weddings in tow behind her husband..... er....what ACTUALLY IS she able to do that sets her apart????

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

"For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

Lol even that hasn't helped me :-/ who is he?

Er he was apparently a erm " character " in that ghastly Big Brother twoddle one year and I wish I didn't know that

Hahahahahaha well THAT'S blown ya cover! Ya may as well come clean now n confess u receive OK n Hello buy direct debit subscription lol

One is a journalist for a quality national newspaper " Dear boy " Ha! Ha!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Ah yes Mrs Beckham famous for..... er........

Bein in end if spice girls........er.........pouting.......er........attending royal weddings in tow behind her husband..... er....what ACTUALLY IS she able to do that sets her apart???? "
nothing lol and I don't know how someone can say she's more well known than her husband lol

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By *allDarkFoxForYou OP Man
over a year ago

Winchester/London

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest…..

I think simply by debating whether someone is a celebrity or not catapults them into that bracket simply because celebrity has become such a meaningless term

I think the debate of who’s a real celebrity and whose not, has been diluted by an over willingness in the media to use the term “Star” to discribe someone in the public eye,,,

To me someone like Grace Kelly deserves the accolade of "Star" rather than celebrity as her fame lives on after her death…

So I’m sure Becks will always be remembered but I don’t know if history will honour him as a legendary Star…

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over a year ago

"For me the absolute nadir of so called celebrity was a few years back when I stumbled on a shop being opened by some muppet with the nickname " bubble ".

There weren't many folk present but I asked an official what he was known for and she answered straight faced " he's famous for poking his tongue out on tv "

Wow! what a talent

Lol even that hasn't helped me :-/ who is he?

Er he was apparently a erm " character " in that ghastly Big Brother twoddle one year and I wish I didn't know that

Hahahahahaha well THAT'S blown ya cover! Ya may as well come clean now n confess u receive OK n Hello buy direct debit subscription lol

One is a journalist for a quality national newspaper " Dear boy " Ha! Ha!

And THIS one HAS been a journalist do touché lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years"

Thank you yes beckham i class as celeb or in other words famous and had been for years i use him as example compared to say a big brother contestant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Todays celebrities aint proper celebs really compared to say beckham and the likes who are in oublic eyes for yrs folk like big brother twats last few month tgen disappear.

Beckham? You havin' a laugh?are you saying Beckham hasn't been in the public eye for years

Thank you yes beckham i class as celeb or in other words famous and had been for years i use him as example compared to say a big brother contestant."

Perhaps the issue is that we haven't got new types of celebrities it's just we use the word in a different way.

Beckham is clearly a celebrity but outside of the UK he's a star! He's probably the only globally recognised footballer (that is a footballer who even people who have no interest in football know.) he's got a huge degree of respect internationally and unlike most celebs his flame isn't particularly temporary. Unless he fucks up royally he will be a global household name for quite a long time.

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over a year ago

Beyond his present celebrity status in the public eye I‘m sure some of Beckhams foot-balling techniques will be studies for many years to come….

But I don’t think the nature of football creates a nostalgic clamour in the same way great Music or great Movies transcend the passage of time..

I'm sure he will always be held in high regards and rightly so, but ask any kid now whose the greatest player that ever lived and I’d bet not many would suggest Pele or Maradona….

Kids today deserve the right to have their greats selected from today’s players and the same goes for all walks of popular culture….

Whenever I see threads on here about naming the best group or song, I'm always left wondering if people are being serious with some of the modern names put forward,…

But thats when I have to remember, that’s the music they listen to now where as I’m still happily listening to the Stars of the 60’s and 70’s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's one celebrity that iutshines them all.

The one and only Ms Soxy.

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over a year ago

"Beyond his present celebrity status in the public eye I‘m sure some of Beckhams foot-balling techniques will be studies for many years to come….

But I don’t think the nature of football creates a nostalgic clamour in the same way great Music or great Movies transcend the passage of time..

I'm sure he will always be held in high regards and rightly so, but ask any kid now whose the greatest player that ever lived and I’d bet not many would suggest Pele or Maradona….

Kids today deserve the right to have their greats selected from today’s players and the same goes for all walks of popular culture….

Whenever I see threads on here about naming the best group or song, I'm always left wondering if people are being serious with some of the modern names put forward,…

But thats when I have to remember, that’s the music they listen to now where as I’m still happily listening to the Stars of the 60’s and 70’s

Except pele et al haven't set up global acadamies and weren't around when the media was as prevalent. He's essentially the perfect storm. Don't get me wrong football isn't my thing but, he's admired globally but not just for football and in fact probably the country he's least admired in is his own.

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over a year ago

"Beyond his present celebrity status in the public eye I‘m sure some of Beckhams foot-balling techniques will be studies for many years to come….

But I don’t think the nature of football creates a nostalgic clamour in the same way great Music or great Movies transcend the passage of time..

I'm sure he will always be held in high regards and rightly so, but ask any kid now whose the greatest player that ever lived and I’d bet not many would suggest Pele or Maradona….

Kids today deserve the right to have their greats selected from today’s players and the same goes for all walks of popular culture….

Whenever I see threads on here about naming the best group or song, I'm always left wondering if people are being serious with some of the modern names put forward,…

But thats when I have to remember, that’s the music they listen to now where as I’m still happily listening to the Stars of the 60’s and 70’s

I totally agree with you.... he's not only a marketing dream, by all accounts a really genuine guy too....

I have a lot of respect for what he's done to help kids all over the world....

He is a Star in my eyes....

Whether or not his name will be hallowed in 200 years from now I've no idea,,,,

But while he's actively involved with the sort of philanthropic work he now does and whatever forms of self promotion he needs to do supporting his fame and ability to do that,,,,

I take my hat off to him....

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

A celebrity is a person, who has a prominent profile and commands some degree of public fascination and influence in day-to-day media. The term is often synonymous with wealth (commonly denoted as a person with fame and fortune), implied with great popular appeal, prominence in a particular field, and is easily recognized by the general public.

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A celebrity is basically a person well known by the public for whatever reason, it's not about whether they deserve the public's respect, it's about how well known they are. And as for some kids on a programme in the seventies knowing more about history, geography etc than kids today are perceived to know...how do you know those kids were representative of their peers? I know teenagers that are complete idiots and I know teenagers that are hardworking and clever...kids are just like real people, all different!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

"Kids are just like real people"

So true!

I've met plenty of brilliant people of all ages and stupid people of all ages

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over a year ago

"Beyond his present celebrity status in the public eye I‘m sure some of Beckhams foot-balling techniques will be studies for many years to come….

But I don’t think the nature of football creates a nostalgic clamour in the same way great Music or great Movies transcend the passage of time..

I'm sure he will always be held in high regards and rightly so, but ask any kid now whose the greatest player that ever lived and I’d bet not many would suggest Pele or Maradona….

Kids today deserve the right to have their greats selected from today’s players and the same goes for all walks of popular culture….

Whenever I see threads on here about naming the best group or song, I'm always left wondering if people are being serious with some of the modern names put forward,…

But thats when I have to remember, that’s the music they listen to now where as I’m still happily listening to the Stars of the 60’s and 70’s

Ooooooooh Mrs PAXO have ya been playing ya Diana Ross n da Supremes greatest hits album AGAIN

I can just see ya doing the hitch hike to Back In My Arms Again n wearing a hole in ya fitted shag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was really poor and starving I'd eat the celebrities....I'm assuming they taste better than normal people.