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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Athiest, no ghosts etc.

I dont believe in god because the evidence he doesn't exist appears to me to be greater than any that might suggest he does. (i'm being a touch PC here as I dont actually believe any exists to support the existance) .

I dont believe in ghosts because any supposed "sightings" etc are usually either a mistake, a con, a miscommunication of electrical neurons in the brain, several more likely explanations.

All MY opinion, only an opinion.

Everyone else is perfectly entitled to theirs too .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"I dont believe in ghosts because any supposed "sightings" etc are usually either a mistake, a con, a miscommunication of electrical neurons in the brain, several more likely explanations.

Or a glitch in the Matrix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmm dont believe in ghosts , afterlife , hmm probably , god yes but not organised relgion .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am unsure and open at the moment most things can be explained but the Ouja board does not seem to explained which makes me wonder

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well there are more things in heaven and earth than we will never know. And we wont really know the truth till we die! I believe and have some physic ability. Very much believe in a beings sole and the after life. But god, well thats a whole other story!

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't"

Absolutely not. Paid liars manipulating the gullible and weak willed.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Do ghosts and god charge then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't

Absolutely not. Paid liars manipulating the gullible and weak willed."
Can anyone explain the ouja board I can't find a scientific explanation on google ? Which as I said does make me wonder if there is something supernatural

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"Do ghosts and god charge then?"

Dog and the flaky friends do indeed charge. Have you seen Ratzo's wardrobe? Or his hoose? Or his private army?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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And that means?

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"And that means?"

The money's coming from somewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't

Absolutely not. Paid liars manipulating the gullible and weak willed. Can anyone explain the ouja board I can't find a scientific explanation on google ? Which as I said does make me wonder if there is something supernatural"

Yes of course. I do like to help. It is a square , flat , board with symbols on it including the alphabet so that ghosts can communicate with the living. Why the fuck they don't use their mobiles is beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Can anyone explain the ouja board I can't find a scientific explanation on google ? Which as I said does make me wonder if there is something supernatural"

Possibly subconscious muscle contractions caused by the tension and willingness for something to happen.

Possible just outright cheating (charlatans use tricks to help convince sceptics) .

Possible willingness to attribute meaning to random events as mistakes are forgotten and correct answers are seized upon and held up as miraculous.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Ouija is a common name trademarked by Hasbro.

The original talking board has many connotations. There is little scientific about a group of people holding a marker, and it 'moving'.

I believe in ghosts. I have seen 1. Only 1. I believe there is some kind of after life. I have seen too many people on the brink of death, talking to people that have already passed, not to believe in one.

I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I believe in a God, just not any organised religion view of a God.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

" .........but I believe in a God, just not any organised religion view of a God. "

What does this Dog done or what is this Dog doing now?

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been."

I see why bollox is your favourite word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been."

are you 100% sure there was no cheating???

no possibility? I have seen magicians do magical things, but it wasn't really magic.

I'm happy for anyone to have their own views and opinions though, for the moment I remain sceptical.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been.

I see why bollox is your favourite word."

Are you trying to attack another member there?

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been.

I see why bollox is your favourite word.

Are you trying to attack another member there?"

I wouldn't dream of such behaviour.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Dunno Plums, I would say I was a sceptic until proven otherwise, but I have been on ouja boards where things just couldn't be explained.

I am still not sure what it was, but there was no eplantion of what it could have been.

are you 100% sure there was no cheating???

no possibility? I have seen magicians do magical things, but it wasn't really magic.

I'm happy for anyone to have their own views and opinions though, for the moment I remain sceptical."

Not a clue plums, that is what I meant.

everyone took their fingers off one at a time etc, and the thing still moved, even when one was left.

All of it was odd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a clue plums, that is what I meant.

everyone took their fingers off one at a time etc, and the thing still moved, even when one was left.

All of it was odd."

hmmmm odd indeed, my reaction would still be suspicion however I do concede it is odd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all a load of bollox lol

Ghosts dont exist never have never will if they did we would be over run by them !!!!

As for God I have never believed and never will I have no problems with people having their faith and I know that they get a lot of comfort from there faith.

But to me religion was designed to keep the people in check and it definitely subjugates women and that is eveident in all religions.

These are age old questions and no one has the answer.... to each there own

And I said this the other day

as Dave Allen said at the end of his show......

......MAY YOUR GOD GO WITH YOU......

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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago

warwickshire

"Ouija is a common name trademarked by Hasbro."

Stemming from an amalgamation of the French and German words for "Yes", donchaknow!

I don't believe in ghosts, sat here in the light, telly blaring. It's a different story in the dead of the night, in an old building, alone, in silence and pitch black, wondering why I'm suddenly awake. Considering I don't believe in God or any organised religion, I suddenly become very pious and Jesus' best friend when I think I'm going to come face to face with a moaning shade of the deceased!

I've seen and heard strange things, unexplained things, and heard first-hand stories of pretty spooky goings on, but whether they are the restless souls of the dead, I can't say. There are many strange things in the world, some are going to be beyond my comprehension, in the way electricity would have been to a Neanderthal.

I strongly suspect that the only way people live on after death is by becoming worm food, I doubt there's a heaven where Grandad is waiting for me with my ancestors and all my dead dogs. (For starters, I'm sure he isn't going to want to spend eternity as the benign old man I knew him as; he's surely going to be the thrusting young buck he was in his youth, in which case he won't be my beloved Grandad).

We are all made up of molecules and atoms, as are every blade of grass, every living thing. When we, or the blades of grass, break down, we are indistinguishable. Life after death is simply the way that energy is never destroyed, it becomes another form of energy. There's no Heaven, no perfect world where everything is dandy and all your questions are answered. Anyway, what's my Heaven could be your Hell - which one of us would prevail?

Heaven and Hell, they are both here and now, in this life.

If, when I die, I find myself going down a long tunnel of light towards my ancestors, it'll be my brain shutting down, the electricity fading out, just like turning my telly off, nothing more. When it's off, it's off, I won't know about it.

(Of course, if after a while the light doesn't go out, and I find myself standing in a queue behind some people in hospital gowns, soldiers in bloody fatigues, and a bloke holding a broken steering wheel, all waiting to see a man in front of some massive gates while he consults his big book, I am in DEEP DEEP trouble.)

* Now, bloody hell, what was that bump and footsteps coming from upstairs? I hope it's a burglar, not a ghost; I'll take my shotgun, not a crucifix to have a look.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I was doing work in a old buildig a few years ago now, I 'sensed' something moving behind me, something which I could only see/sense out of the very farmost corner of my eye. It was as if someone or something was walking or moving behind me, although I coudn't see any form or features.

As I had cables hanging down from the ceilings, bit's of platerboard, wood etc, I just brushed it off as maybe a breeze wafting some of this rubbish around and thought nothing more of it.

A week of so later when stripping a wall back to the brick, I was ripping off old wood cladding which had been there since the year dot, and what did I find ?

An old doorway and a small window, obviously been covered up for many a long year - exactly in the spot where I thought I'd sensed something move ....

Coincidence ? who knows ? But I am very open minded about that kind of stuff

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By *otswoldMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I am an atheist. Consequently there is an empty hole in my soul and it is labelled mysticism.

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By *wift_wingMan
over a year ago

slough

Ok. I'm gonna come outta the closet here lol. My beliefs are very pagan in their origins. I believe in both the Goddess and the Horned god ( who, incidentally, is NOT the devil ). I'm also a practising witch and am fairly adept at changing things on the web of life when I am moved to. Ghosts? They exist certainly. They do fall into many different categories though and there is a marked and distinct difference between a ghost and a spirit. The afterlife - is what those such as I call the summerlands where we rest and debrief after the trails, tribulations and learned lessons of this life before preparing to return. I celebrate the wheel of life as it turns, listening to the heartbeat of the earth and in return it gives me a deeper understanding of what life is really about above and beyond the mundane necessities of having to jump through the hoops of earning to spend to earn to spend.

Sits back and waits for the pyres to be lit

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By *wift_wingMan
over a year ago

slough

"Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't

I find is stupefying that something as dangerous as an ouija board could be sold as a childs toy. Originally they were a tool used by the Romany gypsies to contact the deceased and to use one one needs training in all manner of protections and meditations. Ouija boards have the unfortunate mark of attracting the darker spirits and entities that inhabit the ether and the psychiatric institutions of the world all have their share of broken minds shattered by the misuse of these things. I know how dangerous they are because use of one was my introduction to the occult and, without going into detail, it wasn't a pleasant experience. It did spark my interest though and ultimately has led me to where I am today.

If anyone here has kids who own one my recommendation is for it to vanish quietly into the earth never to be seen again!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" The afterlife - is what those such as I call the summerlands where we rest and debrief after the trails, tribulations and learned lessons of this life before preparing to return. "

Have you had personal experience/evidence of this? Met anyone who has returned? Have you returned? If you have returned were you aware of who you were previously?

Not taking the p*ss, genuinely interested in you experiences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to believe in God, Devil etc...but I believe the established Church (of any denomination) is a middle class organisation that preys on people's fear and insecurities in an effort to get them to conform.

Don't believe in ghosts....think that once you're dead, that's it, you don't come back and visit...you go to wherever it is you go to and stay there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you believe in ghosts afterlife god etc and why you do or don't"

my sweet had had the willies up her after a few spirits

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By *wift_wingMan
over a year ago

slough

"I like to believe in God, Devil etc...but I believe the established Church (of any denomination) is a middle class organisation that preys on people's fear and insecurities in an effort to get them to conform."

It is said that to make a slave of man it is not enough to chain only his body. His mind must also be held and to achieve this fear is the acceptable weapon. Man must fear god, fear the devil, fear life and fear death but most of all he must fear his overlords. The keepers of his destiny.

You have so hit the nail on the head with this post

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