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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised? "

When they can't grasp reality and are incoherent to life.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised? "
when they won't take certain prescribed medicine that could possibly make a mental condition worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who really dress like Lee Nelson....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who really dress like Lee Nelson.... "

People who are Lee Nelson.

And anyone who fails a lie detector on JK!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised?

When they can't grasp reality and are incoherent to life. "

I know someone who knows reality perfectly such as what's going on in this world and what's going on around them. They recognise everyone they know, family/friends/acquaintances, etc. Yet they actually believe stupid things are happening and I mean weird things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there isnt any other reasons.

altho do remember women were locked up (by their families) for having children out of wedlock, and that was really that long ago

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised?

When they can't grasp reality and are incoherent to life.

I know someone who knows reality perfectly such as what's going on in this world and what's going on around them. They recognise everyone they know, family/friends/acquaintances, etc. Yet they actually believe stupid things are happening and I mean weird things. "

the ethic of the new mental health act is not to judge anyones beliefs no matter how preposterous it may seem as long as they arent a danger to themselves or others...

ffs, why u think david ike gets away with some of his shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised?

When they can't grasp reality and are incoherent to life.

I know someone who knows reality perfectly such as what's going on in this world and what's going on around them. They recognise everyone they know, family/friends/acquaintances, etc. Yet they actually believe stupid things are happening and I mean weird things. "

You need to get them to a specialist if its reason for concern.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Never....its such an old fashioned word people only become institutionalised if left in the system and neglected.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Apart from putting others and themselves at physical risk at what point should people be institutionalised?

When they can't grasp reality and are incoherent to life.

I know someone who knows reality perfectly such as what's going on in this world and what's going on around them. They recognise everyone they know, family/friends/acquaintances, etc. Yet they actually believe stupid things are happening and I mean weird things. "
But to them they are real.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never....its such an old fashioned word people only become institutionalised if left in the system and neglected. "

I'm surprised they let me out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion. "

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Never....its such an old fashioned word people only become institutionalised if left in the system and neglected.

I'm surprised they let me out "
Me too, I'm working on that though.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!"
They don't either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!They don't either."

I vote big tits...then I'll take an interest!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!"

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!They don't either.

I vote big tits...then I'll take an interest! "
Come and have a go if your hard enough.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? "
Until this person does something that puts themselves or others at risk, they have to agree to see said people.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Guess it depends what the ideas are, just strange ideas or paranoia. Thats a fucker cause you believe those thongs to be true

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? Until this person does something that puts themselves or others at risk, they have to agree to see said people. "

I know. I was more thinking of the OP having their mind put at rest which is why I suggested their Dr and MIND.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

They let me out so it says it all lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Guess it depends what the ideas are, just strange ideas or paranoia. Thats a fucker cause you believe those thongs to be true"

Thongs aren't true wow I've been mashed for years then

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? "
they can only advice the op, the person in question would have to seek help no one can make them unless they are at risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never....its such an old fashioned word people only become institutionalised if left in the system and neglected.

I'm surprised they let me out Me too, I'm working on that though."

Hey I've done well to hide this long, don't go giving me away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They let me out so it says it all lol "

I'll share a padded cell with you anytime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? "

clearly concerned is one thing..but thinking of institutionalisation is a far fucking jump, in regard to 'odd' thinking is it not?

as stated in the OP thread start...it mentioned no harm to the self or others

I didnt mean to sound like a know it all but I know a good bit lol

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

clearly concerned is one thing..but thinking of institutionalisation is a far fucking jump, in regard to 'odd' thinking is it not?

as stated in the OP thread start...it mentioned no harm to the self or others

I didnt mean to sound like a know it all but I know a good bit lol"
everyone on the forums should be locked up, all got some weird ideas

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? they can only advice the op, the person in question would have to seek help no one can make them unless they are at risk"
Which is what I said....didnt Einstein get accused of being mad? Some people just think outside the box.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it? "

She isn't my friend. I only see her when in work. Bit worried for society though. She spends most of her week. Stopping random pcsos in the street or when she sees them in shops, etc. or even security guards, etc doing their job and basically talk a lot of rubbish where everything she says is what you would watch in some over the top film and she genuinely believes its happening. So whilst she's interrupting them. They aren't doing their job. Not only that, but when these people know they are busy doing their job. They fob her off so she goes to employees in various shops then and hold them up. Everyone thinks she's "coo coo" and shouldn't be allowed in shops and around people with authority, etc. Yet they think its a laugh and encourage her. Yet I think someone could end up hurt one day because officers are detained, etc.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

clearly concerned is one thing..but thinking of institutionalisation is a far fucking jump, in regard to 'odd' thinking is it not?

as stated in the OP thread start...it mentioned no harm to the self or others

I didnt mean to sound like a know it all but I know a good bit lol"

And I clearly know nothing.

In fact we all know nothing in this situation. We don't know what these 'weird beliefs' are. We don't even know if this person is even real. I give what I believe yo be good advice as in the OP speaking to professional people who can put his mind at ease. You seem to think this is a stupid idea. I can't see why but will have yo agree to disagree I think.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm perfectly normal. I know, my mother had me tested.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

She isn't my friend. I only see her when in work. Bit worried for society though. She spends most of her week. Stopping random pcsos in the street or when she sees them in shops, etc. or even security guards, etc doing their job and basically talk a lot of rubbish where everything she says is what you would watch in some over the top film and she genuinely believes its happening. So whilst she's interrupting them. They aren't doing their job. Not only that, but when these people know they are busy doing their job. They fob her off so she goes to employees in various shops then and hold them up. Everyone thinks she's "coo coo" and shouldn't be allowed in shops and around people with authority, etc. Yet they think its a laugh and encourage her. Yet I think someone could end up hurt one day because officers are detained, etc."
good god and you want her locked up for being one of lives eccentrics. Maybe you should gontona pysciatric unit and see what the people are like in there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

clearly concerned is one thing..but thinking of institutionalisation is a far fucking jump, in regard to 'odd' thinking is it not?

as stated in the OP thread start...it mentioned no harm to the self or others

I didnt mean to sound like a know it all but I know a good bit lol

And I clearly know nothing.

In fact we all know nothing in this situation. We don't know what these 'weird beliefs' are. We don't even know if this person is even real. I give what I believe yo be good advice as in the OP speaking to professional people who can put his mind at ease. You seem to think this is a stupid idea. I can't see why but will have yo agree to disagree I think. "

Read up and you'll know what I mean

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

And on that note I will bow out of this thread....it will put mental health back years and I will not be part of it...also I will probably start using more expletives than usual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And on that note I will bow out of this thread....it will put mental health back years and I will not be part of it...also I will probably start using more expletives than usual. "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

She isn't my friend. I only see her when in work. Bit worried for society though. She spends most of her week. Stopping random pcsos in the street or when she sees them in shops, etc. or even security guards, etc doing their job and basically talk a lot of rubbish where everything she says is what you would watch in some over the top film and she genuinely believes its happening. So whilst she's interrupting them. They aren't doing their job. Not only that, but when these people know they are busy doing their job. They fob her off so she goes to employees in various shops then and hold them up. Everyone thinks she's "coo coo" and shouldn't be allowed in shops and around people with authority, etc. Yet they think its a laugh and encourage her. Yet I think someone could end up hurt one day because officers are detained, etc."

But you just said that if they were busy they fob her off so if a call came in surely they'd just leave her to it.

Now you have explained the situation I'd leave it. You made it sound like she was a close friend you were concerned about, not some random person in the street.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I am not even commenting on this thread apart from this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

She isn't my friend. I only see her when in work. Bit worried for society though. She spends most of her week. Stopping random pcsos in the street or when she sees them in shops, etc. or even security guards, etc doing their job and basically talk a lot of rubbish where everything she says is what you would watch in some over the top film and she genuinely believes its happening. So whilst she's interrupting them. They aren't doing their job. Not only that, but when these people know they are busy doing their job. They fob her off so she goes to employees in various shops then and hold them up. Everyone thinks she's "coo coo" and shouldn't be allowed in shops and around people with authority, etc. Yet they think its a laugh and encourage her. Yet I think someone could end up hurt one day because officers are detained, etc.

But you just said that if they were busy they fob her off so if a call came in surely they'd just leave her to it.

Now you have explained the situation I'd leave it. You made it sound like she was a close friend you were concerned about, not some random person in the street. "

She isn't a friend. I don't know her. I only see her in my workplace acting like this.

As for fobbing her off. I mean normally. Staff can predict it will be busy around 6, etc. So about that time they fob her off, but if something happens at 2:30 for example. They will be detained because of her pestering them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yup a key word I seen was eccentric...nothing in the slightest about institutionalization

I worked in mental health for 10years, inpatients and out in the community at times... and what is the current thinking?

if people are causing no real harm, to themselves or others, let them be..its up to society to be tolerant, and tolerant of the 'nutjob' who comes to sit beside u on the bus

putting people in a false environment, a regimented environment is only necessary when they are clearly not functioning well enough for themselves.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I'd you are worried about them then you need to speak to the professionals really. Speak to your Dr to see what they think or ring someone like MIND for advice but be prepared for them not to appreciate your intrusion.

for having a crazy belief?....if Ive missed that the OP has said she/he is lacking function in society through ideations?- this person should be reserved for being 'different''unique''kooky'

some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!

I didn't say they had to be sectioned bit the OP is clearly concerned about his friend. Better to get expert advice isn't it?

She isn't my friend. I only see her when in work. Bit worried for society though. She spends most of her week. Stopping random pcsos in the street or when she sees them in shops, etc. or even security guards, etc doing their job and basically talk a lot of rubbish where everything she says is what you would watch in some over the top film and she genuinely believes its happening. So whilst she's interrupting them. They aren't doing their job. Not only that, but when these people know they are busy doing their job. They fob her off so she goes to employees in various shops then and hold them up. Everyone thinks she's "coo coo" and shouldn't be allowed in shops and around people with authority, etc. Yet they think its a laugh and encourage her. Yet I think someone could end up hurt one day because officers are detained, etc.

But you just said that if they were busy they fob her off so if a call came in surely they'd just leave her to it.

Now you have explained the situation I'd leave it. You made it sound like she was a close friend you were concerned about, not some random person in the street.

She isn't a friend. I don't know her. I only see her in my workplace acting like this.

As for fobbing her off. I mean normally. Staff can predict it will be busy around 6, etc. So about that time they fob her off, but if something happens at 2:30 for example. They will be detained because of her pestering them. "
I think you need to think less about what others do and concentrate on yourself

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

You don't think they are trained to deal with this then? If there truly was a concern for public safety them they would sort it.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime happens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

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over a year ago

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"And on that note I will bow out of this thread....it will put mental health back years and I will not be part of it...also I will probably start using more expletives than usual. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And on that note I will bow out of this thread....it will put mental health back years and I will not be part of it...also I will probably start using more expletives than usual.

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somebody should locked her up for her tourettes!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime happens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

"

Believing in god or any other religion is one thing, but claiming things that aren't true because they live in a fantasy world is another. Spy's, secret agents, S.A.S that work in under cover in retail stores. claiming a member off staff owes her a few million quid. Says that she sees the queen every so often and would like to go, but can't arrange transport. Now she thinks someone can take her who works in my workplace via helicopter because they are the godfather to be of prince William and Kate's baby . She genuinely believes all this and she was going on about dead bodies coming back to life. Surely a person in this frame of mind shouldn't be out in public on her own, never mind talking to security guards, etc

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime happens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

Believing in god or any other religion is one thing, but claiming things that aren't true because they live in a fantasy world is another. Spy's, secret agents, S.A.S that work in under cover in retail stores. claiming a member off staff owes her a few million quid. Says that she sees the queen every so often and would like to go, but can't arrange transport. Now she thinks someone can take her who works in my workplace via helicopter because they are the godfather to be of prince William and Kate's baby . She genuinely believes all this and she was going on about dead bodies coming back to life. Surely a person in this frame of mind shouldn't be out in public on her own, never mind talking to security guards, etc "

You really have a wonderful insight to mental health don't you...worry about you then her I am sure she is doing just fine

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over a year ago


"Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable? "

She makes all staff feel uncomfortable that's why everyone fobs her off or they just sit there taking in all her "stories" and the officers even make an excuse to other employees and walk off of they see her coming as she talks like she's insane and stops everyone from fling their job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do like the irony of ur Op and username I have to say...LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable?

She makes all staff feel uncomfortable that's why everyone fobs her off or they just sit there taking in all her "stories" and the officers even make an excuse to other employees and walk off of they see her coming as she talks like she's insane and stops everyone from fling their job. "

Oh you sound so compassionate and understanding....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime happens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

Believing in god or any other religion is one thing, but claiming things that aren't true because they live in a fantasy world is another. Spy's, secret agents, S.A.S that work in under cover in retail stores. claiming a member off staff owes her a few million quid. Says that she sees the queen every so often and would like to go, but can't arrange transport. Now she thinks someone can take her who works in my workplace via helicopter because they are the godfather to be of prince William and Kate's baby . She genuinely believes all this and she was going on about dead bodies coming back to life. Surely a person in this frame of mind shouldn't be out in public on her own, never mind talking to security guards, etc "

I really don't see how any of it is dangerous or how it is fundamentally different to those who do believe in God (of which I am one). There's no proof of God, praying is just speaking to this invisible belief.

Your description is of someone people find annoying and therefore that is reason enough to lock them up "never mind talking to security guards".

Have a look at MIND on the web and see the range of mental health issues out there that we all have. I'm working with young people at the moment (some close to your age)who have taken the time to educate themselves about mental wellbeing. We all have mental health, sometimes we are in good health and sometimes we aren't.

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over a year ago


"Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable?

She makes all staff feel uncomfortable that's why everyone fobs her off or they just sit there taking in all her "stories" and the officers even make an excuse to other employees and walk off of they see her coming as she talks like she's insane and stops everyone from fling their job.

Oh you sound so compassionate and understanding...."

So its okay to waste officers time then?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable?

She makes all staff feel uncomfortable that's why everyone fobs her off or they just sit there taking in all her "stories" and the officers even make an excuse to other employees and walk off of they see her coming as she talks like she's insane and stops everyone from fling their job. "

Maybe they should learn better coping techniques then.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I do like the irony of ur Op and username I have to say...LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I was holding off on that comment but as it's now out there... OP look to yourself and think about what you have said on this thread and how close it is to the behaviour you think requires incarceration.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime happens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

Believing in god or any other religion is one thing, but claiming things that aren't true because they live in a fantasy world is another. Spy's, secret agents, S.A.S that work in under cover in retail stores. claiming a member off staff owes her a few million quid. Says that she sees the queen every so often and would like to go, but can't arrange transport. Now she thinks someone can take her who works in my workplace via helicopter because they are the godfather to be of prince William and Kate's baby . She genuinely believes all this and she was going on about dead bodies coming back to life. Surely a person in this frame of mind shouldn't be out in public on her own, never mind talking to security guards, etc

I really don't see how any of it is dangerous or how it is fundamentally different to those who do believe in God (of which I am one). There's no proof of God, praying is just speaking to this invisible belief.

Your description is of someone people find annoying and therefore that is reason enough to lock them up "never mind talking to security guards".

Have a look at MIND on the web and see the range of mental health issues out there that we all have. I'm working with young people at the moment (some close to your age)who have taken the time to educate themselves about mental wellbeing. We all have mental health, sometimes we are in good health and sometimes we aren't."

Its not annoying as such, more frustrating as people can't do their jobs with her around. Especially security officers, etc.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Why not? Who is she hurting? Or does she just make you feel uncomfortable?

She makes all staff feel uncomfortable that's why everyone fobs her off or they just sit there taking in all her "stories" and the officers even make an excuse to other employees and walk off of they see her coming as she talks like she's insane and stops everyone from fling their job.

Oh you sound so compassionate and understanding....

So its okay to waste officers time then?"

I give up because I am likely to get into trouble with saying what I really think...

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford


"People who really dress like Lee Nelson.... "

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"We don't lock people up for believing in God or Jedi's or for talking to strangers. We don't lock people up for being annoying. We don't lock people up for being different to us.

Your concerns seem confused: you're worried that she annoys people; that they laugh at her; that if a crime is shevholding you up from your jobhappens when she is bothering a PCSO someone else will get hurt.

Why are your thought processes and concerns any more valid than hers?

Relax and let her live her life. If she becomes a danger to herself or someone else then worry and take action. Others closer to her are better placed to observe whether her behaviours are changing.

Believing in god or any other religion is one thing, but claiming things that aren't true because they live in a fantasy world is another. Spy's, secret agents, S.A.S that work in under cover in retail stores. claiming a member off staff owes her a few million quid. Says that she sees the queen every so often and would like to go, but can't arrange transport. Now she thinks someone can take her who works in my workplace via helicopter because they are the godfather to be of prince William and Kate's baby . She genuinely believes all this and she was going on about dead bodies coming back to life. Surely a person in this frame of mind shouldn't be out in public on her own, never mind talking to security guards, etc

I really don't see how any of it is dangerous or how it is fundamentally different to those who do believe in God (of which I am one). There's no proof of God, praying is just speaking to this invisible belief.

Your description is of someone people find annoying and therefore that is reason enough to lock them up "never mind talking to security guards".

Have a look at MIND on the web and see the range of mental health issues out there that we all have. I'm working with young people at the moment (some close to your age)who have taken the time to educate themselves about mental wellbeing. We all have mental health, sometimes we are in good health and sometimes we aren't.

Its not annoying as such, more frustrating as people can't do their jobs with her around. Especially security officers, etc."

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

This I'd definitely more of a 'i don't know hoe to deal with the situation so remove her from society' response when in fact all she is doing is talking. Nothing you have said had indicated any sort of threat to anyone and if a security guard or pcso hasn't got the balls to leave her standing in an emergency situation maybe they should get another job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe ur post is more about contacting HR...not any psychiatric services FFS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"some of the psychiatric tests are meaningless these days also, asking people with total apathy about who is the prime minister being one question I utterly deplored(while asking community dementia suffers), I barely even know who the fuck runs the country!"

I heard of a mental capacity test a couple of weeks ago where someone was asked what county Brighton was in. The answer was supposed to be Sussex, but actually the psychiatrist was wrong. Brighton & Hove has been a city since 2000 - it's not in Sussex. But nobody thought of sectioning the doctor.

I think the law's quite clear though, and good. People can't be institutionalised unless they're a danger to themselves or others. If you find them eccentric or you don't like the way they look or dress, too bad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words "
its you that wants someone sectioned for being eccentric

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words "

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

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over a year ago

Having not read all the thread if the person is as such already in the system and the OP is a named person on their care sheet or next of kin you have a certain number and contact to call if the need arises and that would be my first port of call.

GP's imo know very little and have very little expertise in mental health issues and if this is the start of things to come ask to be referred to a psychiatrist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words "

paranoia and persecution delusions..LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now read the last 5 posts and making a hasty retreat.....................

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over a year ago


"Having not read all the thread if the person is as such already in the system and the OP is a named person on their care sheet or next of kin you have a certain number and contact to call if the need arises and that would be my first port of call.

GP's imo know very little and have very little expertise in mental health issues and if this is the start of things to come ask to be referred to a psychiatrist. "

u best read the thread lol

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over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'"

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now read the last 5 posts and making a hasty retreat....................."

singing tina turners 'If i could turn back time'

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy."

She quite clearly functions well so doesn't need one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now read the last 5 posts and making a hasty retreat.....................

singing tina turners 'If i could turn back time' "

Nah she'll be coming round the mountain........

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over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy."

as I said, I have mental health training

I'd also point out there is a subjective part of what reality is

if it infringes on what we hold as normal society values being upheld then we normally do something about it for the greater good

Honestly OP do a little research into CURRENT mental health...and please actually stop taking things personally, u are in the wrong , sorry, thats just a fact

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over a year ago


"Having not read all the thread if the person is as such already in the system and the OP is a named person on their care sheet or next of kin you have a certain number and contact to call if the need arises and that would be my first port of call.

GP's imo know very little and have very little expertise in mental health issues and if this is the start of things to come ask to be referred to a psychiatrist.

u best read the thread lol "

I can't, I might need a shrink afterwards rare I post without but on this occasion I think I am glad I didn't

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy."

You see it as twisting your words but what is the difference between reality and fantasy? A lot of men on this site hope to meet a woman for sex as soon as they demand it. Is that reality or fantasy? Should they have carers for expressing that view? Or should we ensure they have carers and access to medical interventions if they get annoying expressing their reality and what I might consider as an annoying fantasy?

She is an adult. She is operating outside of what YOU and maybe SOME of your colleagues feel is the norm. Her norm is different. She is functioning in the world so does she need a carer? Believing in fairies, or that you know the Queen, doesn't mean you can't clean and feed yourself or manage your own bank account.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who really dress like Lee Nelson....

People who are Lee Nelson.

And anyone who fails a lie detector on JK!

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Any one who appears on JK

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over a year ago

Mental health and mental illness are different things. Unfortunately many people who're mentally ill who require treatment only come to the attention of those who can help when they're at crisis point!

Being "locked up" can only happen if

They Commit a criminal offence or if they are sectioned for their own protection, or the protection of others. Or treatment or assessment.

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over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy.

as I said, I have mental health training

I'd also point out there is a subjective part of what reality is

if it infringes on what we hold as normal society values being upheld then we normally do something about it for the greater good

Honestly OP do a little research into CURRENT mental health...and please actually stop taking things personally, u are in the wrong , sorry, thats just a fact"

Too late. I have.

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over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy.

as I said, I have mental health training

I'd also point out there is a subjective part of what reality is

if it infringes on what we hold as normal society values being upheld then we normally do something about it for the greater good

Honestly OP do a little research into CURRENT mental health...and please actually stop taking things personally, u are in the wrong , sorry, thats just a fact

Too late. I have. "

an hour ago...yes...

and think of others when ur thinking of posting about mental health issues..quite alot of us work/worked/have/had dealings in mental health.

and like I said, ur issue is HR related...nothing to do with psychiatry and if anything really not ur place to intervene, unless u feared for someones life or hers...

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over a year ago


"Never have I seen so many people at once twist my words

Hoe have they been twisted? You ate frustrated that this woman comes in and distracts people and so think she should be 'locked up'

I didn't say they should be locked up. I said when should a person be locked up. I know several people that have mental issues and they have carers. Surely she should have one if she can't tell the difference from reality and fantasy.

as I said, I have mental health training

I'd also point out there is a subjective part of what reality is

if it infringes on what we hold as normal society values being upheld then we normally do something about it for the greater good

Honestly OP do a little research into CURRENT mental health...and please actually stop taking things personally, u are in the wrong , sorry, thats just a fact

Too late. I have.

an hour ago...yes...

and think of others when ur thinking of posting about mental health issues..quite alot of us work/worked/have/had dealings in mental health.

and like I said, ur issue is HR related...nothing to do with psychiatry and if anything really not ur place to intervene, unless u feared for someones life or hers..."

Hour ago, wasn't even half hour

Secondly i see them everyday. People with different conditions and I have witnessed it with people i know too. About time inset the record straight. She isn't eccentric and nor am i for that matter. She tries to boss and pester security around and according to everyone on this thread. It should be allowed . Also I didn't mean to be inconsiderate. I was looking out for people as why should customers suffer due to injury or not allowed to shop because one person can't tell the difference between what is happening around her and what is going on in her imagination . If I have offended anyone then I apologise.

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