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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not often when I listen to the news do I go wtf... But today I was listening and apparently a judge has ruled in favour of three convicted murderers that to be given a life sentence is against theirs human shirts...

If anyone has a link to the story I would like to read more as I am gobsmacked...

What about the rights of the person they killed or their family...

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By *issBehavingxxWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419

Just read it a while ago... Theres a link

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick

Check out the thread I posted a couple of hours ago:

ECHR v UK government

http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/185203

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Check out the thread I posted a couple of hours ago:

ECHR v UK government

http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/185203"

Yeah it was a ECHR judge, not a UK judge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not often when I listen to the news do I go wtf... But today I was listening and apparently a judge has ruled in favour of three convicted murderers that to be given a life sentence is against theirs human shirts...

If anyone has a link to the story I would like to read more as I am gobsmacked...

What about the rights of the person they killed or their family...

"

If I understand the issue correctly the issue is the inability to reconsider the life sentence. This is not the same as saying they will be release but that it has to be reviewed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The question is where does on purchase 'human shirts' is this a new thing like those jeans with the top of pants sewn in??

Or is that what Hannibal Lechter wears on a night out

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Check out the thread I posted a couple of hours ago:

ECHR v UK government

http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/185203

Yeah it was a ECHR judge, not a UK judge"

16 ECHR judges.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Not often when I listen to the news do I go wtf... But today I was listening and apparently a judge has ruled in favour of three convicted murderers that to be given a life sentence is against theirs human shirts...

If anyone has a link to the story I would like to read more as I am gobsmacked...

What about the rights of the person they killed or their family...

If I understand the issue correctly the issue is the inability to reconsider the life sentence. This is not the same as saying they will be release but that it has to be reviewed"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is one of the crazy situations where defending the rights of all citizens ends up offending decent law abiding people…

I don’t know the answer, but I do know that I don’t agree with the judges decision to waste even more court time and public money on these 3 loathsome individuals.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone stated on a similar thread, all it means is that a review would have to be given when the time for parole comes up. This does not mean they will be GIVEN parole though.

Think of it this way. If a person in prison KNEW that he/she is NEVER going to be given parole for the rest of their lives, then what incentive do they have for abiding by the rules in prison? NONE is the short answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is one of the crazy situations where defending the rights of all citizens ends up offending decent law abiding people…

I don’t know the answer, but I do know that I don’t agree with the judges decision to waste even more court time and public money on these 3 loathsome individuals..... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having read some reliable sources on the subject it would seem as previously life sentences can only currently be reviewed on grounds of terminal illness and physical incapacity and the European Court ruled this does not comply with article 3. Therefore the UK needs to amend its review process and make it wider.

This again does not mean these three, who I must admit I haven't looked into, will get out

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The Bamber case isn't of much relevance here because he continues to maintain his innocence and couldn't be considered for parole anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Check out the thread I posted a couple of hours ago:

ECHR v UK government

http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/185203

Yeah it was a ECHR judge, not a UK judge

16 ECHR judges."

About 650 members of parliament pass the laws in this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window. "

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick


"To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window. "

Do you mean wouldn't?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window.

Do you mean wouldn't? "

In the first line yes. There should be an edit post on here

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick


"To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window.

Do you mean wouldn't?

In the first line yes. There should be an edit post on here "

After I've proofread my post...and if any changes needed...I copy and paste into a new post and edit...and delete the original post.

Don't know if that helps?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"To me a normal human would commit such crimes in the first places. Otherwise we'd all be doing it. Therefore when a crime like this is committed. Human rights should go out the window. "

It doesn't actually say 'human rights for normal humans' it's for all humans.

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester


"Think of it this way. If a person in prison KNEW that he/she is NEVER going to be given parole for the rest of their lives, then what incentive do they have for abiding by the rules in prison? NONE is the short answer.

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Excellent point

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