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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

After years of wishing Gazza well and hoping he would conquer his addictions, I must admit if the latest reports are true, he has not only let himself down but he shown a total disregard for all those people who’ve supported him both emotionally and financially…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink it! (probably because gazza has already been there and drained the lot). I've no sympathy whatsoever for the guy!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Alledgedy, it says. As far as I'm concerned from now on he has no sympathy from me.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

That man has had far more support and opportunity then any everyday alcoholic or substance misuser...who often have to wait to get a place in rehab where is is funded publicly rather then privately....

That bloke will die from his addiction that is for sure however how many chances does he want? I have spent pretty much my whole career supporting those with addiction issues...myself have a drug addiction many years ago...who would of given their right arm for the support and opportunity that gazza has had...

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. "
you can only help someone so much and then you have to walk away and yes I have been there. The first guy I lived with died at 50 from psorosis of the liver

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's such a shame if all the stories are true. I really thought he wanted to do it this time too! I wish him all the best!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

And remember he is prone to violent outbursts when d*unk

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I'm not sure I would stick around if I was experiencing domestic violence along with the drinking...

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

feel very sorry for the guy, he couldnt handle beeing famous, and now cant handle not beeing famous, hes had a troubled life, no one knows what he is going through, i dont follow football but any troubled person needs support, wish him and his loved ones well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. "

It’s very sad……

I really don’t know how I feel about him right now...but I think I'm starting to lose my sympathy towards him as an individual....

Part of me suspects he won’t make old bones, but I really want him too get clean….

I just feel so sorry for all those people who’ve continually put their faith in him….!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That man has had far more support and opportunity then any everyday alcoholic or substance misuser...who often have to wait to get a place in rehab where is is funded publicly rather then privately....

That bloke will die from his addiction that is for sure however how many chances does he want? I have spent pretty much my whole career supporting those with addiction issues...myself have a drug addiction many years ago...who would of given their right arm for the support and opportunity that gazza has had..."
wot she said

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I'm not sure I would stick around if I was experiencing domestic violence along with the drinking..."
exactly, I stuck it for four years, what was I expected to do stay with him just in case he changed. Life with a violent alcoholic is shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure I would stick around if I was experiencing domestic violence along with the drinking...exactly, I stuck it for four years, what was I expected to do stay with him just in case he changed. Life with a violent alcoholic is shit"

His ex didn't stick around due to the d*unken abuse she was 'allegedly' getting! And she is STILL 'allegedly' recieving abuse from him! How many times does a woman have to go through that sort of behavior before people stop saying 'aw, its gazza, he's such a cad when inebriated'!

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

lets not make such a big deal of him beeing a wife beater, the report i read said he grabbed her arm after she tried to step in between him and a guard, hardly wife beating, lets not judge untill we know the facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He should be for what he has done and is not because he was famous for kicking a ball. He allegedly assaukted 2 people and should be treated for what he has done.

I am sick and tired of so called celebrities being treated with kid gloves compared to the rest of society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lets not make such a big deal of him beeing a wife beater, the report i read said he grabbed her arm after she tried to step in between him and a guard, hardly wife beating, lets not judge untill we know the facts"

Aaah. Thats ok then! He only grabbed her after she stepped in when he was abusing a guard for doing his job. No problem there then!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"lets not make such a big deal of him beeing a wife beater, the report i read said he grabbed her arm after she tried to step in between him and a guard, hardly wife beating, lets not judge untill we know the facts

Aaah. Thats ok then! He only grabbed her after she stepped in when he was abusing a guard for doing his job. No problem there then! "

Allegedly

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I suspect this latest (alleged) incident could turn out to be a defining moment where his public support and goodwill starts to evaporate,,,, and I think that could easily be the tipping point that leads to a tragic conclusion in the life of a yet another troubled soul gripped by demons..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lets not make such a big deal of him beeing a wife beater, the report i read said he grabbed her arm after she tried to step in between him and a guard, hardly wife beating, lets not judge untill we know the facts

Aaah. Thats ok then! He only grabbed her after she stepped in when he was abusing a guard for doing his job. No problem there then!

Allegedly "

Oops, erm, thats what i meant, lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad to see such a once upbeat lively character reduced to this... I guess that's what addiction can do, it changes people.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

I didn't say the guy is a saint. But callinghim a wife beater is a bit strong. Personaly I think he is an idiot. But my point is don't name him things until you know facts

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By *p4u77Woman
over a year ago

Norwich


"That man has had far more support and opportunity then any everyday alcoholic or substance misuser...who often have to wait to get a place in rehab where is is funded publicly rather then privately....

That bloke will die from his addiction that is for sure however how many chances does he want? I have spent pretty much my whole career supporting those with addiction issues...myself have a drug addiction many years ago...who would of given their right arm for the support and opportunity that gazza has had..."
well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't say the guy is a saint. But callinghim a wife beater is a bit strong. Personaly I think he is an idiot. But my point is don't name him things until you know facts"

Isn't this the same guy who's wife was always having to wear extra large shades to hide the black eyes when they were married? Maybe she was just clumsy and kept walking into cupboard doors though eh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't defend what he has done or has been alleged to have done but I'm sure if you could seperate the alcoholic gazza from the human gazza for one minute the human gazza would be so deeply ashamed if his behaviour, but that's the point the drink makes you do some horrible shit to people how many people have woken up next to a person that they wouldn't sleep with when sober, ohh that many lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't defend what he has done or has been alleged to have done but I'm sure if you could seperate the alcoholic gazza from the human gazza for one minute the human gazza would be so deeply ashamed if his behaviour, but that's the point the drink makes you do some horrible shit to people how many people have woken up next to a person that they wouldn't sleep with when sober, ohh that many lol"

I think theres a bit of a difference between sleeping with a lass when your d*unk and knocking 10 shades of shit out of her though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't defend what he has done or has been alleged to have done but I'm sure if you could seperate the alcoholic gazza from the human gazza for one minute the human gazza would be so deeply ashamed if his behaviour, but that's the point the drink makes you do some horrible shit to people how many people have woken up next to a person that they wouldn't sleep with when sober, ohh that many lol

I think theres a bit of a difference between sleeping with a lass when your d*unk and knocking 10 shades of shit out of her though! "

Yeah there is but my point was more about judgement calls and how alcohol affects how you behave and that although its safer for the partner of an abusive d*unk to leave its not always easy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 words Complete Knob

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Met him in a bar once when he just joined spurs - him and 2 other players drank the place dry - thought then he would have problems in future

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's only so many chances you can give a person. If he doesn't want to help himself then no-one else can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 more words raoul moat

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By *oasterCockbumMan
over a year ago

Highway 61

Gazza is a knob ... hes allways been a knob .... he was an even bigger knob when he slapped his bimbo wannabe Mrs about ..... much as I don't excuse any of his behaviour I do have pity for his addiction .... maybe , just maybe if hed been able to overcome his addictions he might have overcame his knobbery ..... how many chances does he get ... or deserve ? ..... another one will probably never be enough ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't see him turning it around now think he will end up like George Best.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I can't see him turning it around now think he will end up like George Best."

Give it 12 months he will be dead...he has gone past the point of ever getting sober

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

I do understand that he has been given umpteen opportunities and failed to take full advantage of each and everyone of them for whatever reason but regardless, I do wish him all the best for the future and hope that one day, somehow, he can overcome this awful affliction and lead a more fulfilling life

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By *p4u77Woman
over a year ago

Norwich


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

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yeah u would if u were being beaten the living daylights out of daily and almost killed sorry gazza has no sympathy from me he knows what he is doing

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

The worse thing that happened to him was crying at the world cup in 1990. That single incident transcended football and brought him onto the front pages of newspapers, and interest in him went through the roof, and the pressure on him.

I don't think he was mature enough mentally to cope with the pressure, and some of the people he hanged around with certainly didnt help him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

yeah u would if u were being beaten the living daylights out of daily and almost killed sorry gazza has no sympathy from me he knows what he is doing"
loved ones Mmmmm never seen the digging deep in their pockets to send him.to rehab

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"There's only so many chances you can give a person. If he doesn't want to help himself then no-one else can."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. "
Disease yes but all self inflicted

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

"

Hmm, I have seen a close family member in a relationship with an alcoholic and seen what it did to the children, sometimes you have to walk away to save yourself and the kids. It isn't a question of not loving the person its a question of survival.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gaza always acted the Clown well before he became a professional Footballer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leaving Newcastle for Tottenham was disasterous,Sir Bobby would of kept his feet on the ground

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

Hmm, I have seen a close family member in a relationship with an alcoholic and seen what it did to the children, sometimes you have to walk away to save yourself and the kids. It isn't a question of not loving the person its a question of survival."
is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leaving Newcastle for Tottenham was disasterous,Sir Bobby would of kept his feet on the ground"
he was the same at Newcastle Don't kid yourself once a clown always a clown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leaving Newcastle for Tottenham was disasterous,Sir Bobby would of kept his feet on the ground he was the same at Newcastle Don't kid yourself once a clown always a clown"
grew up with paul ,went to school with paul, lived 2 doors away from him for 14 years and yes he is and always will be the joker until the day he dies,unfortunately that day is looking sooner rather than later

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted "

I don’t think it’s fair to try and shoulder guilt on his family for trying to live their own lives in their own why whilst having the ever present shadow of his antics looming over them ….

I know nothing about his daughter, but good luck to the girl….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted

I don’t think it’s fair to try and shoulder guilt on his family for trying to live their own lives in their own why whilst having the ever present shadow of his antics looming over them ….

I know nothing about his daughter, but good luck to the girl….

"
ah but it ok to use Gaza's name when it suits her needs, I don't think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

Hmm, I have seen a close family member in a relationship with an alcoholic and seen what it did to the children, sometimes you have to walk away to save yourself and the kids. It isn't a question of not loving the person its a question of survival. is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted "

Isn't she entitled to use his name? After all, he sure hasn't given her anything else. I saw an interview she gave, and she stated "i love my dad for being my dad, but i hate him for what he's done to the family"!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted

I don’t think it’s fair to try and shoulder guilt on his family for trying to live their own lives in their own why whilst having the ever present shadow of his antics looming over them ….

I know nothing about his daughter, but good luck to the girl….

ah but it ok to use Gaza's name when it suits her needs, I don't think so"

That’s a bit double standards ani’t it?,,,, after-all you've used it to bring her into the equation !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. Disease yes but all self inflicted "

How do you work that out? None of us know we are alcoholics when we pick up that first drink. But it's that first drink that clinches the deal.

Do you think my parents would have allowed me that snowball at Christmas as a child if they had known I was an alcoholic?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed.

Hmm, I have seen a close family member in a relationship with an alcoholic and seen what it did to the children, sometimes you have to walk away to save yourself and the kids. It isn't a question of not loving the person its a question of survival. is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted "

Eh? I'm talking about my family so no it isn't the same daughter. I'm not defending any ones actions just pointing out life's realities, it would be lovely to be able to give unconditional love to one family member who is addicted to something be it alcohol, drugs, gambling but there comes a point when there is no more that can be done and if you stick with them you are just facilitating the addiction. The hardest love to give isn't unconditional it's tough love.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. Disease yes but all self inflicted

How do you work that out? None of us know we are alcoholics when we pick up that first drink. But it's that first drink that clinches the deal.

Do you think my parents would have allowed me that snowball at Christmas as a child if they had known I was an alcoholic?

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so it's not self inflicted sorry, I never knew he was held down and alcohol poured down his neck, silly me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. Disease yes but all self inflicted

How do you work that out? None of us know we are alcoholics when we pick up that first drink. But it's that first drink that clinches the deal.

Do you think my parents would have allowed me that snowball at Christmas as a child if they had known I was an alcoholic?

so it's not self inflicted sorry, I never knew he was held down and alcohol poured down his neck, silly me"

No one held me down either but the first taste of it and I was off. Sneaking drink out of the cupboard by time I was 12. Being d*unk in school. I fight hard to keep my alcoholism under control. Daily. It's not easy and I'm in awe of those that stay dry once they become aware. So far my longest stretch is 12 years and I'm back fighting again now. Trouble is I'm a human. I'm weak. I love the taste of alcohol and enjoy it, even though its the one thing I have to avoid in order to control the disease

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

When I first got dry I was so self righteous, if I can do it anyone can type attitude and I raged when friends died. Now I've lapsed a few times I'm a lot more humble

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Alcoholism is a disease. It'd easy to say he isn't trying when you haven't been there. Would you walk away from a loved one? I wouldn't no matter how many times they relapsed. Disease yes but all self inflicted

How do you work that out? None of us know we are alcoholics when we pick up that first drink. But it's that first drink that clinches the deal.

Do you think my parents would have allowed me that snowball at Christmas as a child if they had known I was an alcoholic?

so it's not self inflicted sorry, I never knew he was held down and alcohol poured down his neck, silly me

No one held me down either but the first taste of it and I was off. Sneaking drink out of the cupboard by time I was 12. Being d*unk in school. I fight hard to keep my alcoholism under control. Daily. It's not easy and I'm in awe of those that stay dry once they become aware. So far my longest stretch is 12 years and I'm back fighting again now. Trouble is I'm a human. I'm weak. I love the taste of alcohol and enjoy it, even though its the one thing I have to avoid in order to control the disease

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

When I first got dry I was so self righteous, if I can do it anyone can type attitude and I raged when friends died. Now I've lapsed a few times I'm a lot more humble "

That’s a hugely insightful post and wish you well with your ongoing battle….

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By *limBobStretchedPantsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Having met the man a couple Of times in various stages of his life I can say he is a thoroughly nice well natured guy. He has had a lot if bad press mainly due to being around the wrong people at the wrong time who either don't care about his addiction or just don't know what it is. I wish him well and all the best and hope that he can overcome his addictions before his addictions put an end to it themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Isn't she entitled to use his name? After all, he sure hasn't given her anything else. I saw an interview she gave, and she stated "i love my dad for being my dad, but i hate him for what he's done to the family"!"

His kids have suffered for his addiction, possibly more than him. Calling it a "disease" does not absolve him of all responsibility for his behaviour.

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By *siris01Man
over a year ago

Luton

The trouble with "stardust" is it's sprinkled randomly....here was a guy with a gift for football but no life skills.

If not for his ability to control an air filled leather sphere he would be an old pisshead in the corner of a Newcastle pub.

But, he had a gift and earned a fortune which he was also unable and not intelligent enough to cope with...and so was perfect for the parasites and hangers on.

Gazza is a tragedy that everyone could see waiting to happen.

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By *haven89Man
over a year ago

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gift for drinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a shame to see Gazza in this position.

Gazza came from a working class family, he could not handle the fame that came with a rising star.

He made money, but so did a lot of people around him.

How many people have gone this way, He is not the 1st and certainly wont be the last.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The media are not helping by making his actions front page

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I do have to wonder if people would be so generous with their attitude towards Gascoigne and so forgiving, if he were just an 'ordinary Joe', people are forever making excuses for him and his behaviour...based mainly I believe on his footballing skills of the past.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I do have to wonder if people would be so generous with their attitude towards Gascoigne and so forgiving, if he were just an 'ordinary Joe', people are forever making excuses for him and his behaviour...based mainly I believe on his footballing skills of the past.

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I often wonder that too, a man from a council estate who drinks and was violent towards his wife.....what sympathy would he get?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Apparently now in hospital after being found collapsed outside a London hotel…

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Apparently now in hospital after being found collapsed outside a London hotel… "

That's hard for his loved ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apparently now in hospital after being found collapsed outside a London hotel…

That's hard for his loved ones. "

Not really, she is in the next bed to him after her beating!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It's being reported Gazza, is close to the brink after being taken to a London hospital following an all-day bender.

News Reports suggest “D*unk, dirty and in tears, the stricken football legend had a bottle of gin in each pocket of his shorts as he fell unconscious outside the Royal National Hotel in Russell Square”.

The report also claim,,, “He staggered into a courtyard before collapsing, money falling from his pockets as he begged passers-by to call his ex-wife Sheryl.”

I wonder if he’s acting alone or are people with him when he’s drinking …

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull

The frustrating this is that he has basically displayed two fingers to the friends who paid for his last stint in rehab...They didn't seek fame for it, they did it because they wanted to help their mate out and he was skint....

You cannot help the man who won't help himself...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted

I don’t think it’s fair to try and shoulder guilt on his family for trying to live their own lives in their own why whilst having the ever present shadow of his antics looming over them ….

I know nothing about his daughter, but good luck to the girl….

ah but it ok to use Gaza's name when it suits her needs, I don't think so"

Why not I can't see that he has given her much else. Hardly been a supportive father why shouldn't she take advantage of his name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" is that the same.daughter who wanted nothing to do with Gazza, but used his name to get what she wanted

I don’t think it’s fair to try and shoulder guilt on his family for trying to live their own lives in their own why whilst having the ever present shadow of his antics looming over them ….

I know nothing about his daughter, but good luck to the girl….

ah but it ok to use Gaza's name when it suits her needs, I don't think so

Why not I can't see that he has given her much else. Hardly been a supportive father why shouldn't she take advantage of his name"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to agree with the majority on this. I am a supporter of Rangers FC and an alcoholic.

The club and its supporters dug deep to help Paul last year and he has thrown it back in our face.

Yes I know the pitfalls, I was dry for 10 years before recently falling off the wagon and making not only a total arse of myself but a few of my close friends who were with me.

Paul has had chance after chance after chance. He has been in expensive rehab clinics yet still he cannot control the urge.

I agree that unless HE HELPS HIMSELF then no amount of help from others will keep him alive.

I for one do not wish to be on here in another couple of months time with a Paul Gascoigne RIP post.

On the field he was a genius unfortunately off the field the drink turned him into a total prick.

Sorry Paul you have an adoring following out there but we will not support you anymore

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Apparently now in hospital after being found collapsed outside a London hotel…

That's hard for his loved ones.

Not really, she is in the next bed to him after her beating!"

No really it is hard for close family and can destroy them as surely as it destroys the alcoholic.

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