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"All people have to do if it pisses them off is ignore it........and move onto the next mail they get. Isn't that the usual advice for single males who moan about mails?" My response was for sending an introductry message not a reply, just to clarify things | |||
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"not just single guys just had a cut and paste off a cpl??? not good no reply going there then lol" Ah, but can you be sure it's a couple? Lotta fakes around (allegedly) | |||
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"I often wonder why folk "cut and paste" this complaint into a new thread on an almost weekly basis We work on the premise that we deserve or are owed absolutely nothing from anyone on this site, apart from the right to be here without being abused. We are not that precious that we believe we are entitled to an in depth personal message that massages our ego. Nice as that might be why should anyone HAVE to do that. If someone looks at our profile and likes what they see then we are more than happy with a simple one liner to that effect, after all this is a swingers site, not facebook. It's the content of someones profile that is going to sway us one way or another, not some obsequious pm blowing smoke up our arse It's no wonder a lot of single guys feel like second class citizens in this lifestyle when they continually encounter this sort of elitist attitude. We get several PM's from single guys each week. Our profile is quite clear about when and where we play with guys yet most PM's seem to have missed that point. We are not offended, we reply politely and then normally ignore any subsequent contact. For us we are all equal on this site and as such we all deserve to be treated in the same manner. " well said 2 bonks again I often reply to copy n pastes Its there for convenience so why not use it If you get 2% success rate then all the better As long as what they say about me and too me impresses me, it doesn't make them less sexy, nice, funny, available | |||
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"I often wonder why folk "cut and paste" this complaint into a new thread on an almost weekly basis We work on the premise that we deserve or are owed absolutely nothing from anyone on this site, apart from the right to be here without being abused. We are not that precious that we believe we are entitled to an in depth personal message that massages our ego. Nice as that might be why should anyone HAVE to do that. If someone looks at our profile and likes what they see then we are more than happy with a simple one liner to that effect, after all this is a swingers site, not facebook. It's the content of someones profile that is going to sway us one way or another, not some obsequious pm blowing smoke up our arse It's no wonder a lot of single guys feel like second class citizens in this lifestyle when they continually encounter this sort of elitist attitude. We get several PM's from single guys each week. Our profile is quite clear about when and where we play with guys yet most PM's seem to have missed that point. We are not offended, we reply politely and then normally ignore any subsequent contact. For us we are all equal on this site and as such we all deserve to be treated in the same manner. " Thanks 2bonk for putting into words what I was thinking and had no time to write. Can we treat all site members with the respect you expect yourselves...as the post above says, no one is a second class citizen. | |||
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"Weve hundreds of friends on here and saying that i dont mean friends who just wanna look at the private pics, i mean people who swing as we do and have been friends for many yrs and we all confer who is being mailed by who and most of the mail is cut and paste...it just shows what some guys think of us females...lol" Firstly, not all guys are frantically messaging anything and everything with a pulse to get a meet (some may well do granted). This thread just made we wonder what your opening gambit is like when meeting someone new at the pub (just socially)? I would imagine most people start off on fairly similar common ground and go from there, no? So why is it any different in here? I don't copy and paste, but alot of my opening messages I imagine are largely similar, I'm looking for the same thing after all, there's only so many ways you can dress something up. Some peoples profiles make it easier to start off with something to talk about (perhaps yours does too), others don't though... | |||
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"and we all confer who is being mailed by who" Good lord! We view one or two people on here as "Close" friends, however, no matter how close we may appear, there's no way would we discuss emails we've been sent re someone's interest in us Are people not entitled to privacy? | |||
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"and we all confer who is being mailed by who Good lord! We view one or two people on here as "Close" friends, however, no matter how close we may appear, there's no way would we discuss emails we've been sent re someone's interest in us Are people not entitled to privacy? " I wonder if they 'cut n paste' the messages and send out a 100 copies to their friends..... . . . . . . . Sorry... I could not resist the irony of it | |||
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"we all confer who is being mailed by who" Goes on, how lucky are we? | |||
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" Express your preferences by all means, but accept it’s just that… a preference. " Could not agree more, preference is good and expecting is bad. Lets hope we now see a lot more harmony and a big reduction in threads being started by folk stamping their feet because their preferences have not been realised and others bleating on about not getting their preferred "Moonpig" style correspondence | |||
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"I often wonder why folk "cut and paste" this complaint into a new thread on an almost weekly basis We work on the premise that we deserve or are owed absolutely nothing from anyone on this site, apart from the right to be here without being abused. We are not that precious that we believe we are entitled to an in depth personal message that massages our ego. Nice as that might be why should anyone HAVE to do that. If someone looks at our profile and likes what they see then we are more than happy with a simple one liner to that effect, after all this is a swingers site, not facebook. It's the content of someones profile that is going to sway us one way or another, not some obsequious pm blowing smoke up our arse It's no wonder a lot of single guys feel like second class citizens in this lifestyle when they continually encounter this sort of elitist attitude. We get several PM's from single guys each week. Our profile is quite clear about when and where we play with guys yet most PM's seem to have missed that point. We are not offended, we reply politely and then normally ignore any subsequent contact. For us we are all equal on this site and as such we all deserve to be treated in the same manner. " You posts always save me the effort of responding...what they said - lol | |||
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"oh dear if i knew there would be this much feed back i wouldnt have bothered all i was tring to put across but failed to do so was that alot of guys(not all)dont bother to read our profile and just send a cut and paste message, on looking at their profile to see if they are indeed what we are looking for we find out they arent, it would be so easly to read profiles then send a short and simple e-mail to that person rather than sending out reems of cut and paste messages to people they do not match..it doesnt take long to look at a ptofile now does it...also it shows some guys(not all)arent really bothered who they meet as they send the same mail to many many types male and female also i have to point out we reply to every e-mail recieve and certainly never a cut and paste message...i respect all members.. stella..xxxx" Your profile is the exception to the norm in that it clearly states no cut and paste messages, if only a few others who regularly complain about this had that sort of clarity in theirs My post was not aimed exclusively at you but more at the notion that single guys have to "up their game" for some people or risk ridicule within and, as your opening post shows, without the forum environment Preferring to receive a personal message based on your profile content is one thing but expecting it is another, and then discussing offenders with all and sundry is another matter completely. For us a PM is a Private Message and as such we discuss them with no one. | |||
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"Im not really too concerned about types of messages its profiles that hold more interest to me We have met fabulous people from one line messages because their profiles told us all we needed to know to want to respond " I don't have a problem with all one-liners - I've had some lovely one-liners (which are obviously a result of the person/s actually reading my profile) which have lead to conversations and meets... (regardless of what was on their profile). I've had huge messages and been switched off - usually because the message was so long they forgot to change all of the "guys like you two" and "lovely couple" comments. I am sure not ALL cut and paste senders are just spamming in hope of any reply from anyone and not overly bothered who they get a "yes" from... but it sure is the case for some people. When arranging meets online, I prefer to be a little more selective than that and appreciate when the people sending me messages appear to be also... shows we are likely to be on the same wave length. | |||
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"oops forgot to add... if you dont want either...... block everyone and YOU DO THE MESSAGING " those pink pants have brought u wisedom | |||
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"oops forgot to add... if you dont want either...... block everyone and YOU DO THE MESSAGING those pink pants have brought u wisedom " aye pity I didnt have that wisdom before I wasked my white calvs with my new red sweatshirt........... | |||
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"oops forgot to add... if you dont want either...... block everyone and YOU DO THE MESSAGING those pink pants have brought u wisedom aye pity I didnt have that wisdom before I wasked my white calvs with my new red sweatshirt..........." now talk about shattering my illusions | |||
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"one liners.... war peace messages..... who cares.. both will come from the nicest guys on Fab both will come from the not so pleasant " Your doing it again | |||
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"one liners.... war peace messages..... who cares.. both will come from the nicest guys on Fab both will come from the not so pleasant Your doing it again " I know lol, I know... | |||
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"one liners.... war peace messages..... who cares.. both will come from the nicest guys on Fab both will come from the not so pleasant Your doing it again I know lol, I know... " And it makes me smile every time you do it | |||
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"one liners.... war peace messages..... who cares.. both will come from the nicest guys on Fab both will come from the not so pleasant Your doing it again I know lol, I know... And it makes me smile every time you do it " thank you sir.. | |||
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"sorry for taking so long to post on here but fell asleep reading the op`s profile just wonders how anyone meets all the reqirments they have " I was about to post the same! The list of don't wants and the list of do wants is a war and peace epic in themselves. Don't want fat men, fair do's, but to then describe yourself as not fat and not thin. Sorry edited out what I was about to say as I don't want to be accused of having a go at you. | |||
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"We have a number of cut and paste replies, such as Thanks but no thanks mail Sorry but your profile says "wont meet smokers" reply Sorry but we are outside your age criteria reply Yes I know you really want to have sex with Jed but he won't even do it for the cash you have offered reply (not actually used this one yet but still hoping) We also have a "cut and paste" letter to send out to people however we first read peoples profiles to see if we are within the criteria they are looking for and then add to the cut and paste basic information something personal to the person we are mailing. We don't see anything wrong with having the cut and paste section which basically says about travel, accommodating, location, ages, verifications, pictures, our "no strings" meet policy etc, it just saves time but each mail we send is then tweaked to the individuals we are sending them to. " In my view a perfect use of the cut and paste facility, so long as there is a little bit of personal stuff in there that proves they have actually read your profile I was always quite happy to recieve them. As has been said, was never so up myself that I expected a ream of poetry etc all written just for me. (although just once may have been nice lol) Raz | |||
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"And why not? most of the time they don't get an answer. Why should they type out a war and peace mail ( because some people expect more than one line)to every person on the off chance they might read it, but knowing they probably won't. We have a cut and paste message when we send a no thanks, so it isn't just males who use this method." i totally agree . ive as good as stopped sending mail now ,as i have always taken time and effort in composing a detailed ,polite message ,only for it to be deleted without being read ,or at best looked at and ignored. ive never ,and never would use the cut and paste option ,but i can understand why some single men use it ,as you get to the stage where you think ,why bother ,as its only going to be deleted without being read or ignored. | |||
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"sorry for taking so long to post on here but fell asleep reading the op`s profile just wonders how anyone meets all the reqirments they have " Does it matter if they don't meet the requirements, surely it is better to know the do's and dont's upfront rather than waste your time. Everyone has criteria, having lots of criteria will diminsh the number of available people but if that means you are happy when you do play rather than feeling uncomfortable playing surely it's a good thing ? | |||
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"When I was looking to meet, I always tried to pick up on something said in the person's profile. That of course could only be done when they actually said something in their profile, amazing the number of one line profiles!! However, latterly I wasn't writing overly much simply because I've got better things to do with my time than right stuff only to have it deleted! I'm well aware that there are plenty of plonkers about here, but the real culprits aren't the guys who don't read profiles properly but those smart Alex who take delight in simply deleting guys' messages! " I totally agree with you ,and thats the reason i dont bother wasting my time constructing a personal ,detialed message anymore -they never get read are just deleted, a point which has been made by more than one member already on this thread. | |||
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"When I was looking to meet, I always tried to pick up on something said in the person's profile. That of course could only be done when they actually said something in their profile, amazing the number of one line profiles!! However, latterly I wasn't writing overly much simply because I've got better things to do with my time than right stuff only to have it deleted! I'm well aware that there are plenty of plonkers about here, but the real culprits aren't the guys who don't read profiles properly but those smart Alex who take delight in simply deleting guys' messages! I totally agree with you ,and thats the reason i dont bother wasting my time constructing a personal ,detialed message anymore -they never get read are just deleted, a point which has been made by more than one member already on this thread. " What do you consider to be a personal and detailed message? I am genuinely curious (you can tell me via pm if you wish - no that's not a come-on lol) I ask as I've seen lots of messages where it is very detailed... detailed about the sender... repeating everything you can find out on the profile and the personal touch being it starts with "Hello (insert username)" I'm not saying that's what you do - I would just like to know your perspective. | |||
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"Just to clarify, I wasn't saying we delete mails without replying, but some people do....and of course they are perfectly entitled to if they wish." But do you | |||
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"Stella.. your profile is VERY difficult to read. The first section is one huge list of 'do not' that all merge into one so I doubt anyone gets to the end of it. What you are looking for is much clearer to read. as for comments on your pics... you have 3. 2 semi graphic and 1 nice. so 2 roads to go down... comment on the graphic and risk offending you.. only a few ways to say 'wow what a lovely stunning and beautiful open vagina' or .. 'you look like you are having a great time with that afro caribean gentleman' or comment on the 1 full body... I like to think I am a decent lad.. altho I do not meet your requirements but I need to say... I WOULD NOT HAVE A CLUE WHERE TO START COMPOSING A MAIL TO YOU... that may reflect me rather than you tho.. good luck" By the time I've read the 4th or 5th 'NO' I've already forgotton what the preceding ones were all about ... | |||
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"its a NSA sex site a lot of guys and ladies just want a faceless emotionless fuck they dont have to prove themselves to anyone all they have to do is turn up and fuck um, thats kind of the point " As you say there are a lot who want a faceless person to just turn up and fuck. However as you also indicate, that's not ALL. Some people like to be a little more selective about who they invite into their home, their bed and (as this is actually a swinging site) into their existing sexual relationship. Neither way is right or wrong... other than being the right or wrong way for the individual/couple. Enjoying recreational sex the way that works for the individual/couple... surely that's the point. | |||
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"its a NSA sex site a lot of guys and ladies just want a faceless emotionless fuck they dont have to prove themselves to anyone all they have to do is turn up and fuck um, thats kind of the point As you say there are a lot who want a faceless person to just turn up and fuck. However as you also indicate, that's not ALL. Some people like to be a little more selective about who they invite into their home, their bed and (as this is actually a swinging site) into their existing sexual relationship. Neither way is right or wrong... other than being the right or wrong way for the individual/couple. Enjoying recreational sex the way that works for the individual/couple... surely that's the point." Absolutely spot on and turns the wheel full circle This lifestyle is all about personal choice and I always wonder why folk are so quick to complain when others choose to communicate in the way they choose to do. Well intentioned advice is much more palatable than a group belittling The only advice I would seek to offer is that those whose preference is to receive personal style PM's would do well to emphasise that within their own profiles as to subsequently complain about something not included in a long list of likes/dislikes is a bit churlish | |||
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" The only advice I would seek to offer is that those whose preference is to receive personal style PM's would do well to emphasise that within their own profiles as to subsequently complain about something not included in a long list of likes/dislikes is a bit churlish" My current profile heading states I do not wish to receive any new “are you interested” messages... but guess what's been arriving? Let's be honest here.... too many people just don't bother reading profiles before sending a message.... which can only be generic messages. For me a personal message indicates the sender has actually read my profile and hopefully has selected to write to me because of a shared interest and preferences hopefully matching… yeah I got ‘hopefully’ in there twice for a reason. It's human nature to grip about things once in a while when they keep happening..... ok may be that's not the most positive way to post about it. But out of those posts generally comes a thread with some good advice, some sharing of our differing preferences and a general heads up to help people understand where they could change their approach… well some of us live in hope anyway | |||
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" My current profile heading states I do not wish to receive any new “are you interested” messages... but guess what's been arriving? " Just a thought but if you hid your profile until you want to start receiving messages again that would certainly stop the unwanted stuff getting through | |||
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" My current profile heading states I do not wish to receive any new “are you interested” messages... but guess what's been arriving? Just a thought but if you hid your profile until you want to start receiving messages again that would certainly stop the unwanted stuff getting through " Surely the heading should be enough? Your advice was to put something in the profile (which I agree can't do any harm).... I went one better and put it as the heading in anticipation of some people opening the profile and skipping all the text. I made clear as a clear thing can be what type of messages I don't want and yet still they come. I don't want to stop all messages... if someone wants to start a conversation that's fine and I'm happy to chat to people I've already been chatting to. | |||
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" My current profile heading states I do not wish to receive any new “are you interested” messages... but guess what's been arriving? Just a thought but if you hid your profile until you want to start receiving messages again that would certainly stop the unwanted stuff getting through Surely the heading should be enough? Your advice was to put something in the profile (which I agree can't do any harm).... I went one better and put it as the heading in anticipation of some people opening the profile and skipping all the text. I made clear as a clear thing can be what type of messages I don't want and yet still they come. I don't want to stop all messages... if someone wants to start a conversation that's fine and I'm happy to chat to people I've already been chatting to. " Sadly it looks like you are completely hooped with this one miss. Unless the site are going to put in place a rule that states folk have to comply with all profile requirements I guess people are just going to continue to use their personal preference to take a chance and get in touch. Thankfully it's a very very small price to pay for the continued use of personal preference that we all get to enjoy on this site | |||
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"my oh my how often do we see this kind of post ????? all these post do in my humble opinion is take up valuable server space, because no matter how many times they appear they ain't going to make a slight bit of difference. if anyone has a problem with over whelming amounts of mail, be it the cut and paste type or not, just do the sensible thing and hide your profile till such time as you've sorted out the ones you have, then rethink your mail filter and reset it to the desired level. it really doesn't help posting the same things over and over again, maybe the site should have some kind of filter so as to avoid threads being opened on issues we are all aware of and have no control over. nor in my opinion could you control it without damaging a very good site as it is. sorry this is just my opinion and my view point on this subject, but like others have said "sh*t happens" so what you just ignore it and move on " And to quote you regarding the subject of posts you don't like.... "..."sh*t happens" so what you just ignore it and move on ...." Don't ya just love irony | |||
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" My current profile heading states I do not wish to receive any new “are you interested” messages... but guess what's been arriving? Just a thought but if you hid your profile until you want to start receiving messages again that would certainly stop the unwanted stuff getting through Surely the heading should be enough? Your advice was to put something in the profile (which I agree can't do any harm).... I went one better and put it as the heading in anticipation of some people opening the profile and skipping all the text. I made clear as a clear thing can be what type of messages I don't want and yet still they come. I don't want to stop all messages... if someone wants to start a conversation that's fine and I'm happy to chat to people I've already been chatting to. Sadly it looks like you are completely hooped with this one miss. Unless the site are going to put in place a rule that states folk have to comply with all profile requirements I guess people are just going to continue to use their personal preference to take a chance and get in touch. Thankfully it's a very very small price to pay for the continued use of personal preference that we all get to enjoy on this site " The thing is... I know I'll have to put up with it. I'm just expressing my opinion, preferences and experiences in a thread which was already here... just as we are all thankfully entitled to do. | |||
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"Maybe we should post a 'Are you interested' message... No, not a good idea" Some folk prefer a little bit more than that | |||
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"i would never be so rude as to ignore anyone on this site whether they sent us a cut and paste or a regular mail...stella..xxx" Stella... I have twice mentioned on here my opinion re your original post. I also mentioned your pics as you mentioned you thought guys would like to comment on them in a message. You have since changed your pics and I wrote to you saying I thought 1 ... your new picture was a great one 2.... also any mention re your pics was not me being rude your read and then deleted my message with no reply. so your quote above may be factually incorrect. anyway I have now exhausted myself commenting on your thread and file it under ' another attention seeking post'. good luck ... | |||
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"i would never be so rude as to ignore anyone on this site whether they sent us a cut and paste or a regular mail...stella..xxx Stella... I have twice mentioned on here my opinion re your original post. I also mentioned your pics as you mentioned you thought guys would like to comment on them in a message. You have since changed your pics and I wrote to you saying I thought 1 ... your new picture was a great one 2.... also any mention re your pics was not me being rude your read and then deleted my message with no reply. so your quote above may be factually incorrect. anyway I have now exhausted myself commenting on your thread and file it under ' another attention seeking post'. good luck ... " This defo becoming Detective tastic as the plot thickens | |||
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"so your quote above may be factually incorrect" "Weve hundreds of friends on here and saying that i dont mean friends who just wanna look at the private pics, i mean people who swing as we do and have been friends for many yrs " I'm curious about what you've posted, above, because you stated this on another: ""as far as i know i dont think anyone on here hates me as i dont know that many on here"" Just curious what's happened to the hundreds of friends you had? | |||
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"lol lol 2 bonks " Between you and BOGOF this is becoming very interesting to watch and the response is being waited for with baited this end | |||
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" Some folk prefer a little bit more than that " But its still ignored and deleted ,same as a one line message . | |||
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