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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves." not particularly a charming comment | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves. not particularly a charming comment" It wasn't intended to be. | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves. not particularly a charming comment It wasn't intended to be." it worked | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves." it helps improve the gene pool | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves." If you had compassion Jim you'd raise the bridges to ensure a hole on one for everyone. Your campaign slogan perhaps :P | |||
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"are we back to subliminal messages via songs now??? did he know she was in a potentially dangerous situation?? are we heading for a big whack of compensation?? im listening to alicia keys at the moment falling so if i take a tumble downstairs............. if he was aware of the situation and did it as a piss take he should be sacked." Just found this A Radio DJ has been condemned by mental health charities after he played the song Jump as police were trying to talk down a suicidal woman from a motorway bridge. Steve Penk received a request from a listener for the hit Van Halen track after four lanes of the M60 were closed while police attempted to deal resolve the situation. The controversial presenter told listeners on his breakfast show he was playing the song to 'emphathise' with frustrated drivers, but moments later the woman jumped from the 30ft bridge. What a nasty man to have the mentality to effectively laugh at someone for having a mental illness. | |||
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"should def be sacked if he was aware of what was happening and be made work for a mental health charity for 6 months on a voluntarily basis!! x" I totally agree The man that requested the tune was a heartless fool. Anyone who has suffered with mental illness would not ever wish it on their worst enemy | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves." Oh Jim, Jim, Jim, pity you have no idea what psychological turmoil some peeps are experiencing just prior to making that decision | |||
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"are we back to subliminal messages via songs now??? did he know she was in a potentially dangerous situation?? are we heading for a big whack of compensation?? im listening to alicia keys at the moment falling so if i take a tumble downstairs............. if he was aware of the situation and did it as a piss take he should be sacked. Just found this A Radio DJ has been condemned by mental health charities after he played the song Jump as police were trying to talk down a suicidal woman from a motorway bridge. Steve Penk received a request from a listener for the hit Van Halen track after four lanes of the M60 were closed while police attempted to deal resolve the situation. The controversial presenter told listeners on his breakfast show he was playing the song to 'emphathise' with frustrated drivers, but moments later the woman jumped from the 30ft bridge. What a nasty man to have the mentality to effectively laugh at someone for having a mental illness. " Someone requested the song. It's HIS job to play it. Granted he could have refused but then he would have been making a moral judgement which is not really for him to do. He should have kept quiet and just not played it. As for being responsible for the woman jumping that's rubbish ... I doubt she was tuned in to his programme. If he knew there was definitely a suicide victim on a bridge he should have thought twice but to my mind this is another example of the press needing something to blow out of all proportion and I thought witch hunting and illogical thought died centuries ago. Apparently not. | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves. Oh Jim, Jim, Jim, pity you have no idea what psychological turmoil some peeps are experiencing just prior to making that decision " How do you know he doesn't ? I do. I have a really good idea. In fact - excellent insights. A whole different debate could arise out of this. I don't know why some think they have the right to force someone to live when they have made a decision not to be here. | |||
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"Anyone daft enough to jump from a motorway bridge on hearing a particular song should be encouraged to do so at any and every opportunity until they succeed in killing themselves. Oh Jim, Jim, Jim, pity you have no idea what psychological turmoil some peeps are experiencing just prior to making that decision How do you know he doesn't ? I do. I have a really good idea. In fact - excellent insights. A whole different debate could arise out of this. I don't know why some think they have the right to force someone to live when they have made a decision not to be here. " people who are suicidal REALLY do wish to end it all, contrary to much of the pulics opinion I know I spent 7 weeks on a mental health unit last summer and I saw far too many bodies wheeled off the ward to never return | |||
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"What a nasty man" I agree, his attempts at being "controversial" are for his own self ego, the best decision ITV have ever made was when they axed him many years ago!!! | |||
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"I don't know why some think they have the right to force someone to live when they have made a decision not to be here" Oh I agree, I'm a great believer in euthanasia, BUT, there is a huge difference in planing to end one's life through consultation and guidance with the right experts and with a level head (numerous countries offer euthanasia) compared to someone willing to jump of a bridge / in front of a train, hangs themselves etc., etc. those decisions have a huge knock on effect, and in 99.9% of the time are not made by people with a level head. | |||
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"depression and suicide were the reason i got into physcology and being a counsellor for a group in ireland called aware,worked for them for 5 years,and iv been called to many a suicide attempt,some that ended good and some that ended bad,and both have a devastating effect on friends and family" "some that ended good and some that ended bad" is an interesting choice of phrase. Good or bad for whom? The would-be suicide or the counsellor? What's a good end and what's a bad end? Is a good end when a person planning suicide is talked out of it or fails to complete the act? Is that neccessarily a good end for that person? | |||
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"goodend is getting the person the help they need and always getting them the support they need be it 2 weeks 6months a year 5 years even ten years from the first incident and getting the person to open up about why they wanted to do it, a bad end is not having them options anymore" For some at least not having any options left is exactly the end they sought. Who are we to deny them that choice? | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down" I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten " and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. | |||
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"the human mind is a very complex thing xx" I actually find it rather fascinating | |||
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"happiest people in world have problems,but most can and will look for help" You can't help those that don't want to be helped, hence why numerous suicide attempts are successful | |||
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"the stigma around mental illness is still there" I doubt the stigma is on the level it once was, we're becoming a more tolerant / acceptable society, however, I do believe the biggest issue facing mental health organisations is differentiating between genuine mental health cases and those who have been labelled as a mental health case because they're felling stressed!!!!!! | |||
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"the stigma around mental illness is still there I doubt the stigma is on the level it once was, we're becoming a more tolerant / acceptable society, however, I do believe the biggest issue facing mental health organisations is differentiating between genuine mental health cases and those who have been labelled as a mental health case because they're felling stressed!!!!!! " some people may be more tolerant others arent! sad fact everyone is not as tolerant or understanding because untreated stress can lead to other problems it can be classed the same but see to be perfectly honest there are times i dont think the professionals know much either and its a case of theres tablets ta ta!! | |||
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"not nececassrily but in a " normal" world no one would want to end their life so i think its still classed as doctors that someone with suicidal urges is mentally ill if u see what i mean??? there is terminally ill people of total sound mind who want the release of death to escape their illness and people for whom life has no meaning sometimes through bereavement etc and i send a wee prayer out to everyone of them xxx" Its the "normal" bit that makes me question this,just because its not deemed normal to want to end your life you're classed as having mental health issues? I do understand what you mean but with experience from work I can see both sides I would consider someone coping with a terminal illness along with the symptoms,pain and knowledge that death has to be prematurely faced more likely to have some mental health issues too but no-one would ever say that,and no amount of counselling will be able change things for them,its something they mainly have to accept with on their own Oh what a happy subject to be discussing on blue monday xx | |||
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"I would consider someone coping with a terminal illness along with the symptoms,pain and knowledge that death has to be prematurely faced more likely to have some mental health issues too but no-one would ever say that,and no amount of counselling will be able change things for them,its something they mainly have to accept with on their own" Having discussed it at some length with Kid, I have a condition within my will, that should I be struck with a terminal illness, my decision is to be taken to a country and receive euthanasia, having made that deision, I wouldn't class myself as mentally ill. | |||
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"the stigma around mental illness is still there I doubt the stigma is on the level it once was, we're becoming a more tolerant / acceptable society" The stigma is still there, and it's not to do with whether society is more tolerant. It's to do with not wanting to admit to oneself that something is wrong and that you need 'help'. | |||
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"I would consider someone coping with a terminal illness along with the symptoms,pain and knowledge that death has to be prematurely faced more likely to have some mental health issues too but no-one would ever say that,and no amount of counselling will be able change things for them,its something they mainly have to accept with on their own Having discussed it at some length with Kid, I have a condition within my will, that should I be struck with a terminal illness, my decision is to be taken to a country and receive euthanasia, having made that deision, I wouldn't class myself as mentally ill. " I have the same with my husband for certain diseases too and I don't class myself as mentally ill,but at the moment I have no condition,but having to face one and all the issues that surround it will have some impact on my mental health for sure Im not saying that is the case for everyone but for some people its very very hard to come to terms with | |||
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"Having found my mum following suicide and living with it every day since I think he was inappropriate.. but the tabloids making a song and dance would pay a photographer for the best pic of her jumping if they could...... double standards as usual in the press." Now thats the truth of the matter,tragedy sells unfortunately As for your Mum View,well I would'nt be able to find any words to say that will make you feel any better will a cyber hug do instead? ((((xxxx)))) | |||
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"Having found my mum following suicide and living with it every day since" Your comment didn't go unnoticed View, just that on this occasion we're lost for words | |||
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"Sorry but had bad news" awwww Snoggy | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. " He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped. | |||
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"Having found my mum following suicide and living with it every day since Your comment didn't go unnoticed View, just that on this occasion we're lost for words " x2 | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped." cant wait for the block button to also stop you seeing peoples forum posts!!! Your comments on this thread have infuriated me! Iv been touched by suicide and iv seen the devastation it leaves behind, and on the flip side of the coin iv come VERY close to it myself. | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped." ignorance sweetie.........pm me il educate you!!! | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped. cant wait for the block button to also stop you seeing peoples forum posts!!! Your comments on this thread have infuriated me! Iv been touched by suicide and iv seen the devastation it leaves behind, and on the flip side of the coin iv come VERY close to it myself. " Because a football team got beaten? | |||
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"Because a football team got beaten?" If you knew anything about depression you would know that something that may seem even more trivial than that to you, could easily tip someone over the edge. | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped. cant wait for the block button to also stop you seeing peoples forum posts!!! Your comments on this thread have infuriated me! Iv been touched by suicide and iv seen the devastation it leaves behind, and on the flip side of the coin iv come VERY close to it myself. Because a football team got beaten?" Cumulative effect Jim? the final straw? I doubt this was a genuine suicide attempt based solely on a football result however it may have been in a depressed state of mind that something seemingly minor could have been the tipping point. Just kicking him up the arse MAY have been enough, but possibly just masked the underlying problem until the next incident that tipped the balance again ? | |||
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" ............ i come from midlands ireland which has the highest suicide rate in young males in ireland,mainly from failing exams or feeling like they have let their families down I found myself in A&E in Glasgow the night of an Old Firm match a couple of years ago. The teenager in the next cubicle was being treated for attempted suicide by paracetamol overdose because his team had been beaten and your point is? His depression issues wont make sense to most people and why should they? He still needs help and care and support. He needed a good kick up the arse which is exactly what his mother delivered when she finally trapped. cant wait for the block button to also stop you seeing peoples forum posts!!! Your comments on this thread have infuriated me! Iv been touched by suicide and iv seen the devastation it leaves behind, and on the flip side of the coin iv come VERY close to it myself. Because a football team got beaten? Cumulative effect Jim? the final straw? I doubt this was a genuine suicide attempt based solely on a football result however it may have been in a depressed state of mind that something seemingly minor could have been the tipping point. ............... " You may well be correct. His team had been having a particularly bad run of results so it may have been the cumulative effect. | |||
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