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"We had a visit from them too, when one of ours hurt themselves. It was very tough at the time but I would rather they visit one hundred innocent parents than miss one abusive family." yeah totally agree. | |||
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"We had a visit from them too, when one of ours hurt themselves. It was very tough at the time but I would rather they visit one hundred innocent parents than miss one abusive family."  | |||
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"I called them with concern about a parent. I appreciate it must be awful to have them concerned about anyone. But I have looked at it as a positive. I have cared enough to call. If something ever happens to that child I would be devastated. .....at least I have expressed my concern. Still reminding myself I did the right thing." You did do the right thing. You must have been concerned to call them. | |||
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"Had to call them today to express concern with someones parenting of my eldests friend and the circumstance the parent put me in. I know I have done the right thing and they agreed there should be concern and looking into the background. Anyone else been in a similar situation to feel you need to make a call that you really dont want to. Feeling uneasy but a bit easier knowing my concern will be looked into. Bit unsettled tonight. "If you genuinely fear for a child's health or safety you call them without question. There are far too many irresponsible people who don't put their children's well being before their own pleasure. | |||
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"Being a social worker is not an easy job. You dont hear of the great work only the ones thatfall through the net." hello im here but not down to social services it was my own doing much as they like to think other wise other than feed an clothe me they did sweet fa | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it?" No of course not!! | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it?" Totally agree with this, you have to try and hope they take note and something will change, wherever it be a wake up call for the parent/parents ultimately the child's welfare is the most important thing x | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it?" But how much could everyone do themselves before involving an already over worked social worker? You would be amazed how basic a childs needs are classed as.. | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it? But how much could everyone do themselves before involving an already over worked social worker? You would be amazed how basic a childs needs are classed as.. " Depends on how approachable the parent involved is, | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it? But how much could everyone do themselves before involving an already over worked social worker? You would be amazed how basic a childs needs are classed as.. " My view is that children are everyone's responsibility and there's quite a lot we could all do as individuals but ultimately we can't remove a child from abusive parents or protect them all the time, there are occasions when we have to involve the authorities. I often think of that little boy who was systematically starved to death by his parents, he was attending school the whole time how did it happen | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it? Totally agree with this, you have to try and hope they take note and something will change, wherever it be a wake up call for the parent/parents ultimately the child's welfare is the most important thing x" A wake up call if the parent has done something wrong.. My son played mummy and daddy with a girl. They both had a look at the differences between a boy and girl and the girl who was having councelling cos of her disruptive behavior told her mum who went straight to social services. I got investigated and it was put down to kids at play cos its a natural part of their sexual development to be curious. If the girls mum had actually spoke to my son while he was round playing she would of found out for herself that it was nothing sinester behind what they did, especially as she had just qualified as a social worker  | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it? Totally agree with this, you have to try and hope they take note and something will change, wherever it be a wake up call for the parent/parents ultimately the child's welfare is the most important thing x A wake up call if the parent has done something wrong.. My son played mummy and daddy with a girl. They both had a look at the differences between a boy and girl and the girl who was having councelling cos of her disruptive behavior told her mum who went straight to social services. I got investigated and it was put down to kids at play cos its a natural part of their sexual development to be curious. If the girls mum had actually spoke to my son while he was round playing she would of found out for herself that it was nothing sinester behind what they did, especially as she had just qualified as a social worker "I get that!! That situation is just madness and a waste of the services time, but in a parent to child abuse/neglect point of view presuming that's what the op is on about, there is cases when you can do something but for some people like my situation and believe me I tried so hard I got so stressed I ended up having a seizure and loosing everything at the time social services are required to step in, I know resources are tight especially when they are wasted which is a shame for the kids who need them the most! | |||
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"Not forgetting social services can help and support the parents/parent in some cases" Just in my experience they suck!! | |||
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"ive a 3 year ongoing court battle for my daughter,was a fultime dad for 3 year then awarded her bk to mother because of a wank social worker after been with me since 8 mnth old,still fighting and now a member of justice for fathers! social services arn't worth a toss!!!!! "Now Hang on a Min don't go slagging off social workers with your 1 sided Exp, there are 3 side to every story Your's Theirs and the Truth and no I'm not a social worker, its just another 1 of those thankless jobs ppl choose to do yes choose | |||
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"the system is flawed for sure, but that doesn't mean that we should do nothing does it? Totally agree with this, you have to try and hope they take note and something will change, wherever it be a wake up call for the parent/parents ultimately the child's welfare is the most important thing x A wake up call if the parent has done something wrong.. My son played mummy and daddy with a girl. They both had a look at the differences between a boy and girl and the girl who was having councelling cos of her disruptive behavior told her mum who went straight to social services. I got investigated and it was put down to kids at play cos its a natural part of their sexual development to be curious. If the girls mum had actually spoke to my son while he was round playing she would of found out for herself that it was nothing sinester behind what they did, especially as she had just qualified as a social worker "yes but they were both 21 yo lol | |||
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"ive a 3 year ongoing court battle for my daughter,was a fultime dad for 3 year then awarded her bk to mother because of a wank social worker after been with me since 8 mnth old,still fighting and now a member of justice for fathers! social services arn't worth a toss!!!!! Now Hang on a Min don't go slagging off social workers with your 1 sided Exp, there are 3 side to every story Your's Theirs and the Truth and no I'm not a social worker, its just another 1 of those thankless jobs ppl choose to do yes choose"Your right.. There is always 3 sides to a story. | |||
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"Its quite a few years since i worked in child protection, but a Social Services Dept will have as many malicious or unwarranted referrals as they will have genuine concerns. They have a duty of care to investigate each one which will mean speaking to parents as well as liaising with agencies, ie school, doctors / health visitors, police etc. This usually has a devastating effect on parents. Will make them feel inadequate, embarrassed, etc. Many times people are referred by others as a way of getting them into trouble, this kind of referral is similar to the ringing fire engines or ambulances to cause mischief. I would advise that if you have a genuine concern then make the referral but be aware of the consequences. Depending on the situation expect contact from other agencies, like the police, who will need to question you to gain more information. The parent won't be told the referrers details but sometimes it's easy to work out, as the patent will be told the nature of the referral. We all have different parenting styles that will seem inappropriate to others. If you feel a child is suffering physical or emotional neglect, suffering violence or sexual abuse them don't hesitate to refer. If the child is left alone for long periods or at risk from visitors to the home then refer. We have a duty as adults to protect children, just, as I said before, be aware of the level of input the authorities will give and the effects to that family. "agree fully | |||
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"Its quite a few years since i worked in child protection, but a Social Services Dept will have as many malicious or unwarranted referrals as they will have genuine concerns. They have a duty of care to investigate each one which will mean speaking to parents as well as liaising with agencies, ie school, doctors / health visitors, police etc. This usually has a devastating effect on parents. Will make them feel inadequate, embarrassed, etc. Many times people are referred by others as a way of getting them into trouble, this kind of referral is similar to the ringing fire engines or ambulances to cause mischief. I would advise that if you have a genuine concern then make the referral but be aware of the consequences. Depending on the situation expect contact from other agencies, like the police, who will need to question you to gain more information. The parent won't be told the referrers details but sometimes it's easy to work out, as the patent will be told the nature of the referral. We all have different parenting styles that will seem inappropriate to others. If you feel a child is suffering physical or emotional neglect, suffering violence or sexual abuse them don't hesitate to refer. If the child is left alone for long periods or at risk from visitors to the home then refer. We have a duty as adults to protect children, just, as I said before, be aware of the level of input the authorities will give and the effects to that family. "But how are we supposed to know 100% if a child is at risk? Surely that decision is one that can only be made by the correct agency we aren't experts, the onus isn't on us but rather the agency to make its processes better and more parent friendly. I keep going back in my mind to that young boy who was starved to death by his parents while attending school, how in God's name did it happen when he was in daily contact with other adults who could at least have fed him if they were too afraid of how a vsit from social services would affect his family. | |||
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"Its quite a few years since i worked in child protection, but a Social Services Dept will have as many malicious or unwarranted referrals as they will have genuine concerns. They have a duty of care to investigate each one which will mean speaking to parents as well as liaising with agencies, ie school, doctors / health visitors, police etc. This usually has a devastating effect on parents. Will make them feel inadequate, embarrassed, etc. Many times people are referred by others as a way of getting them into trouble, this kind of referral is similar to the ringing fire engines or ambulances to cause mischief. I would advise that if you have a genuine concern then make the referral but be aware of the consequences. Depending on the situation expect contact from other agencies, like the police, who will need to question you to gain more information. The parent won't be told the referrers details but sometimes it's easy to work out, as the patent will be told the nature of the referral. We all have different parenting styles that will seem inappropriate to others. If you feel a child is suffering physical or emotional neglect, suffering violence or sexual abuse them don't hesitate to refer. If the child is left alone for long periods or at risk from visitors to the home then refer. We have a duty as adults to protect children, just, as I said before, be aware of the level of input the authorities will give and the effects to that family.
But how are we supposed to know 100% if a child is at risk? Surely that decision is one that can only be made by the correct agency we aren't experts, the onus isn't on us but rather the agency to make its processes better and more parent friendly.
I keep going back in my mind to that young boy who was starved to death by his parents while attending school, how in God's name did it happen when he was in daily contact with other adults who could at least have fed him if they were too afraid of how a vsit from social services would affect his family. "It doesn't have to be 100% certainty.. But identifying abuse is never easy.. Abusers will cover themselves, lie, have an excuse for any questions.. But all reported cases of abuse have to be on facts, not on someones assumptions | |||
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"Its quite a few years since i worked in child protection, but a Social Services Dept will have as many malicious or unwarranted referrals as they will have genuine concerns. They have a duty of care to investigate each one which will mean speaking to parents as well as liaising with agencies, ie school, doctors / health visitors, police etc. This usually has a devastating effect on parents. Will make them feel inadequate, embarrassed, etc. Many times people are referred by others as a way of getting them into trouble, this kind of referral is similar to the ringing fire engines or ambulances to cause mischief. I would advise that if you have a genuine concern then make the referral but be aware of the consequences. Depending on the situation expect contact from other agencies, like the police, who will need to question you to gain more information. The parent won't be told the referrers details but sometimes it's easy to work out, as the patent will be told the nature of the referral. We all have different parenting styles that will seem inappropriate to others. If you feel a child is suffering physical or emotional neglect, suffering violence or sexual abuse them don't hesitate to refer. If the child is left alone for long periods or at risk from visitors to the home then refer. We have a duty as adults to protect children, just, as I said before, be aware of the level of input the authorities will give and the effects to that family. "
I've been maliciously reported.. yes it turned out okay.. but still found it very hard. | |||
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"If this parent is found innocent will they know the reporting came from you? Is there anyway you could of found out more yourself first? Its a tricky one cos if the parent has done nothing wrong then you could be creating an awful situation for everyone involved. Did you look up the signs of abuse and maybe speak to the child in a discrete way Anything you report they have to investigate regardless" Apologies...only just came back to thread. Will they know its me...yes probably. I dont really know them. I would not recognise them passing in town. Anyway to find out more myself....this is the second time they have put me in the situation I found myself in in relation to the child. First time I was cross this time I was amazed due yo responsibilities and neglect. Did I look up the signs of neglect.......no as in my work I deal with watching for signs every day and have studyed abuse most recently. Speaking to the child discretly wasnt an option due to circumstances but have remembered past chats with the child and what my own child has told me. The texts fromthe parent have been passed onto ss too. Hope that answers x | |||
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"Its quite a few years since i worked in child protection, but a Social Services Dept will have as many malicious or unwarranted referrals as they will have genuine concerns. They have a duty of care to investigate each one which will mean speaking to parents as well as liaising with agencies, ie school, doctors / health visitors, police etc. This usually has a devastating effect on parents. Will make them feel inadequate, embarrassed, etc. Many times people are referred by others as a way of getting them into trouble, this kind of referral is similar to the ringing fire engines or ambulances to cause mischief. I would advise that if you have a genuine concern then make the referral but be aware of the consequences. Depending on the situation expect contact from other agencies, like the police, who will need to question you to gain more information. The parent won't be told the referrers details but sometimes it's easy to work out, as the patent will be told the nature of the referral. We all have different parenting styles that will seem inappropriate to others. If you feel a child is suffering physical or emotional neglect, suffering violence or sexual abuse them don't hesitate to refer. If the child is left alone for long periods or at risk from visitors to the home then refer. We have a duty as adults to protect children, just, as I said before, be aware of the level of input the authorities will give and the effects to that family.
But how are we supposed to know 100% if a child is at risk? Surely that decision is one that can only be made by the correct agency we aren't experts, the onus isn't on us but rather the agency to make its processes better and more parent friendly.
I keep going back in my mind to that young boy who was starved to death by his parents while attending school, how in God's name did it happen when he was in daily contact with other adults who could at least have fed him if they were too afraid of how a vsit from social services would affect his family. "This.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-22805043 As for being 100%, we don't have to be, we just need to have a real genuine concern. | |||
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"I did speak to the police first too and asked their advice. Have read the texts I had from the patent to ss. I dont know the mum at all so would not call her to inform her that she is being neglectful by her actions and putting me in a bad situstion. If shehadnt put me in the situation I probably wouldnt have called ss." you don't need to explain, you did the right thing, we need more people like you. I hope that the outcome is good for everyone involved. | |||
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"Not knowing all of what obviously has happened, I would say anyone who has worries about a child should report it to at least let SS check it out. I did it once and I told the people if they didn't stop leaving their small children alone then I would do it....they carried on so I reported it. The SS came round and they didn't do it again. I would do the same again if I thought a child was at risk. "I am hoping a chat with ss will make them realise. I expect my son (the childs friend) will become un friended by the childs familyand be told not to come nesr us as we blew the whistle. | |||
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"To those who are highly critical of such jobs as social work I say, if you think you can do better, go ahead. Spend years getting qualified, have your hands tied with red tape, be constantly criticised, be exposed to abuse and aggression and then let us all know about it." I know someone that has had constant problems with 2 social workers that have both lied threw there teeth in meetings and in court. Some of them are a waste of space. I've known a meeting that was meant to be chaired by someone in dependant but was actually chaired by a social worker. Not all are useless but all the ones I have been aware of through people I know have been | |||
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"To those who are highly critical of such jobs as social work I say, if you think you can do better, go ahead. Spend years getting qualified, have your hands tied with red tape, be constantly criticised, be exposed to abuse and aggression and then let us all know about it. I know someone that has had constant problems with 2 social workers that have both lied threw there teeth in meetings and in court. Some of them are a waste of space. I've known a meeting that was meant to be chaired by someone in dependant but was actually chaired by a social worker. Not all are useless but all the ones I have been aware of through people I know have been" I also can tell individual negative stories. But that is all they are. Individual ones out of thousands of positives which are never heard of. | |||
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"To those who are highly critical of such jobs as social work I say, if you think you can do better, go ahead. Spend years getting qualified, have your hands tied with red tape, be constantly criticised, be exposed to abuse and aggression and then let us all know about it" There certainly are some good ones out there. Also some disgraceful ones around regardless of 'years getting qualified' who have ruined lives. Hands tied with red tape should not be thrown out there as mitigation under any circumstance, nor should they be free from criticism because of the decent work of others, a life is a life. | |||
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"i have children who are both very well looked after roof over head food in belly clothes on back shoes on feet and loads of love and cuddles but because some nosy person saw me shouting at my child for bad manners and bad laungewage i have social service in my life now till they 18 ppl should mind there own business and look after there own " Social services will only keep a case open if they have concerns.. Not just cos someone rang and made a complaint. If they investigate and are happy with everything then they just close the case | |||
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