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"Not just the youth.....seems since covid its disappeared from a lot of people" I have heard that , I never really stopped over covid and worked with the same gangs | |||
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"Not just the youth.....seems since covid its disappeared from a lot of people I have heard that , I never really stopped over covid and worked with the same gangs " I didn't either, but fuck me in construction there is a lot of dross who dont give a fuck. A real talent drought who dont have any drive for the job anymore. | |||
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"I found the generation that would be early 30s now very hard to work with. But I have found the ones coming up now (mid 20s) to be less workshy and more in touch with real life. That's just my workplace experience. " Let's hope so , maybe just a glitch with (.as mentioned) the whole covid thing 🤔 | |||
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"Not just the youth.....seems since covid its disappeared from a lot of people I have heard that , I never really stopped over covid and worked with the same gangs I didn't either, but fuck me in construction there is a lot of dross who dont give a fuck. A real talent drought who dont have any drive for the job anymore. " Well.lets hope.it picks up , cos with this AI bollocks if there not super hot at IT there gonna have to learn a hands on skill Lots of admin jobs etc are soon gonna go !! | |||
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"The kids coming up to college are a generation of rage baiters. Bunch of little c*nts " Haha , bit harsh , but theres some truth in that lol. | |||
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"The kids coming up to college are a generation of rage baiters. Bunch of little c*nts Haha , bit harsh , but theres some truth in that lol." Had a couple of t level students with me this year. The young lass was going places, the lad was too lazy and didn't turn up half the time. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 | |||
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"Is it me or does anyone else agree the youth of today ( 30 and under ) have a poor work ethic ? Don't get me.wrong there some great young lads ( can't comment on women ) as i dont work with any ,but it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " Maybe this is due to the issue of work not actually paying well enough anymore. I feel a lot of young people have lost faith in the belief, that if you work hard you get rewarded accordingly. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜" This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. | |||
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"The kids coming up to college are a generation of rage baiters. Bunch of little c*nts Haha , bit harsh , but theres some truth in that lol. Had a couple of t level students with me this year. The young lass was going places, the lad was too lazy and didn't turn up half the time. " Im having the same issue , they want the money just dont wanna work , Iv taken on 4 apprentices this year and down to two and one of them just comes out with the lameist excuses to just not turn up or when he does he just wants to go home , they have to 2 days at maritime collage ( which is pay them to do ) I don't actually have too ,but they just dont go !! | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. " Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. | |||
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"No I don't agree. I notice a lot of under 30s working evenings and weekends in low wage jobs while attending college all week. I sat in McDonald's recently and watched a team of 18-25 year olds work their bloody socks off. Individuals might not be too keen on working but that's not age specific, I've worked with some really old skivers and they got very good at it due to years of experience." I must admit there are some great kids about , and McDonald's isent easy work from.what iv seen | |||
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"The kids coming up to college are a generation of rage baiters. Bunch of little c*nts Haha , bit harsh , but theres some truth in that lol. Had a couple of t level students with me this year. The young lass was going places, the lad was too lazy and didn't turn up half the time. " This area is well known for having a lot of EHCP students. It’s a low income, high drug use area. One of the highest poverty areas in England I believe. Bricklaying attracts the non academic kids. I will say that there are a few gems but they are rare. Teaching is not for the faint hearted. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. " Very very true , but the lads im dealing with are good money !! And a job for life if they get there heads down | |||
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"The kids coming up to college are a generation of rage baiters. Bunch of little c*nts Haha , bit harsh , but theres some truth in that lol. Had a couple of t level students with me this year. The young lass was going places, the lad was too lazy and didn't turn up half the time. This area is well known for having a lot of EHCP students. It’s a low income, high drug use area. One of the highest poverty areas in England I believe. Bricklaying attracts the non academic kids. I will say that there are a few gems but they are rare. Teaching is not for the faint hearted. " I know I couldent be a teacher !! Or a nurse , must be so dishahearting when your hole job is to help people | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. " Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn | |||
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"Couldn't be a teacher. Its bad enough on a construction site working with the children all grown up!" Have you had the " you can't tell me to do that ' I asked one of if he could pack the lines up ( I even said please ) his reply was thats not my job!!thats what the shore crew do !! All because in fairness they tend to it !! But he knows we do it!! | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn " Aye, but what's the point 💜 | |||
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"Couldn't be a teacher. Its bad enough on a construction site working with the children all grown up! Have you had the " you can't tell me to do that ' I asked one of if he could pack the lines up ( I even said please ) his reply was thats not my job!!thats what the shore crew do !! All because in fairness they tend to it !! But he knows we do it!! " Yeah loads, but age has no relevance with this response. Heard it from everyone. Usually when you ask people to clean up their shit. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn " I've been hearing older people say that since I first started work. I genuinely don't know if it's worse now than it used to be but in my experience the good outnumber the bad. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn Aye, but what's the point 💜" Money. They is a lot of money to be made from low paid jobs if you work for your self doing them. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn I've been hearing older people say that since I first started work. I genuinely don't know if it's worse now than it used to be but in my experience the good outnumber the bad." Haha , well vwry true , just had an older fella tell me the same , and yes it is true , my dad called me lazy oik many many times , the difference is though I knew I had to work , or id have nothing , | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn Aye, but what's the point 💜 Money. They is a lot of money to be made from low paid jobs if you work for your self doing them. " Self employed here with 3 businesses !! Left school at 15 with no qualifications , hard work does pay . That is just a fact | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. " To add to that many large companies don’t value their staff anymore. The staff are paid a pittance to do a job and whether they do the bare minimum or push themselves there’s no recognition or value to it…. So why bother Covid, and multiple big firms making massive redundancies also showed staff that they really don’t matter, they’re just a number | |||
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"At 64, I have semi retired, i have run pubs for many years, and in truth, don't want or need the hassles that came with it, now have a part time job managing a community event space bar with none of the responsibility for the day to day issues, my work ethic is still there, just slowed down " Space bar ? | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. To add to that many large companies don’t value their staff anymore. The staff are paid a pittance to do a job and whether they do the bare minimum or push themselves there’s no recognition or value to it…. So why bother Covid, and multiple big firms making massive redundancies also showed staff that they really don’t matter, they’re just a number " Yeah, that really hasn't helped. Job security isnt really a thing anymore. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. To add to that many large companies don’t value their staff anymore. The staff are paid a pittance to do a job and whether they do the bare minimum or push themselves there’s no recognition or value to it…. So why bother Covid, and multiple big firms making massive redundancies also showed staff that they really don’t matter, they’re just a number " Unfortunately covid actually helped me !! And im not a massive company and do go out my to help , and pay well over minimum wage , also help them.buy equipment ( which i dont have to ).I paybyhem for there study days , Might just be unlucky with the ones iv had come to me !! | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤" Fair point , my lads are 26 25 and 20 , ones in the police one in navy and one at uni , and I must admit there on a uphill. Battle to make a life for themselfs without debt Still think the one I have is a knob though lol , | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤 Fair point , my lads are 26 25 and 20 , ones in the police one in navy and one at uni , and I must admit there on a uphill. Battle to make a life for themselfs without debt Still think the one I have is a knob though lol , "There will always be knobs. | |||
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"At 64, I have semi retired, i have run pubs for many years, and in truth, don't want or need the hassles that came with it, now have a part time job managing a community event space bar with none of the responsibility for the day to day issues, my work ethic is still there, just slowed down Space bar ? " Who holds the hash key? | |||
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"At 64, I have semi retired, i have run pubs for many years, and in truth, don't want or need the hassles that came with it, now have a part time job managing a community event space bar with none of the responsibility for the day to day issues, my work ethic is still there, just slowed down Space bar ? " the bar at an event space, we hold gigs, private events, corporate events, that sort.of thing | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤 Fair point , my lads are 26 25 and 20 , ones in the police one in navy and one at uni , and I must admit there on a uphill. Battle to make a life for themselfs without debt Still think the one I have is a knob though lol ,
There will always be knobs."But iv had 4 Davina lol. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜 This is also true. Hard work simply does not pay. It is understandable why young people think fuck it, whats the point. Hard work in low wage jobs never paid. Hard work in a low paid job worked out very well for me. I learnt how it all works then did it my self 🤑 problem is they are to lazy to work and learn Aye, but what's the point 💜 Money. They is a lot of money to be made from low paid jobs if you work for your self doing them. Self employed here with 3 businesses !! Left school at 15 with no qualifications , hard work does pay . That is just a fact "I live very comfortable while the people I now doing the same work struggle just not willing to put the effort in | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤 Fair point , my lads are 26 25 and 20 , ones in the police one in navy and one at uni , and I must admit there on a uphill. Battle to make a life for themselfs without debt Still think the one I have is a knob though lol ,
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But iv had 4 Davina lol."Maybe you're a lightning rod for knobs. 😄 Now you know how women on Fab feel. 🤣 | |||
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"At 64, I have semi retired, i have run pubs for many years, and in truth, don't want or need the hassles that came with it, now have a part time job managing a community event space bar with none of the responsibility for the day to day issues, my work ethic is still there, just slowed down Space bar ? the bar at an event space, we hold gigs, private events, corporate events, that sort.of thing" Hargh I see , good on you that must be hard work  but I get the no responsibility thing | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤 Fair point , my lads are 26 25 and 20 , ones in the police one in navy and one at uni , and I must admit there on a uphill. Battle to make a life for themselfs without debt Still think the one I have is a knob though lol ,
There will always be knobs.
But iv had 4 Davina lol.
Maybe you're a lightning rod for knobs. 😄
Now you know how women on Fab feel. 🤣"Haha , maybe lol , but he never sends dick pics thank God, just excuses to not come to work lol | |||
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"Seen too many young lads from agencies come and go. They go through the induction stage, get trained, do the job with zero passion or desire to even be there and within a few weeks they just don't show up anymore. I've also seen middle aged guys who complain to everyone about the workload and issues with pay and then they just suddenly leave, and I've seen elderly guys who were overly sensitive to minor remarks and criticisms made by the boss and then they just leave. I've said to my boss many times that we should have an new employee deposit. If new starts paid £100 on their first day as a guarantee to stay longer than 6 weeks then the money will be returned, and if they quit within 6 weeks they lose the money. At least it gives us a little reassurance that new starts will put long term commitment in their work and get through the bumps and hurdles that naturally occur in those first weeks." Bring back conscription , That's a joke before I get jumped on lol Wouldent work anyway!! They would just claim your being unfair | |||
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"Every generation seems to think that "the youngsters today don't know the value of hard work" (tm). I seem recall hearing some version of this when I was one of "the youngsters". Every generation has an assortment of strivers and skivers. Gen Z will be moaning about Gen AB- or whatever in 20 years' time. My daughter is 24. Admittedly, because she's a university graduate from a particularly selective top-end university, her peers are who I've been exposed to (no, not like that). They work bloody hard. Now, a lot of them are struggling to find decent work, and it's crushing them. Virtually all of her friends are either in jobs they had to settle for, or are studying further to try to increase their employability. And these are the top-end of the cohort. Who could blame them for being demotivated? I thought I had trouble finding my first job - it was nothing compared to this. My daughter now has a job; not in her dream of the creative industries, but as a project manager. And let me tell you, she is conscientious and works bloody hard, as do her friends; because they really don't want to lose the jobs they've managed to claw their way into. Let's cut them all some slack. We were them, once. 🖤" Amen to that Davina | |||
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"It’s definitely not all of them but I do think it’s common for Gen Z to have a ‘couldn’t give a fuck’ attitude when it comes to work and putting the effort in. They don’t seem to have any sense of obligation or need to please, which I suppose has its pros and cons. I’m a millennial and think I care far too much about work and wish I could switch off. " This is also true, | |||
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"Seen too many young lads from agencies come and go. They go through the induction stage, get trained, do the job with zero passion or desire to even be there and within a few weeks they just don't show up anymore. I've also seen middle aged guys who complain to everyone about the workload and issues with pay and then they just suddenly leave, and I've seen elderly guys who were overly sensitive to minor remarks and criticisms made by the boss and then they just leave. I've said to my boss many times that we should have an new employee deposit. If new starts paid £100 on their first day as a guarantee to stay longer than 6 weeks then the money will be returned, and if they quit within 6 weeks they lose the money. At least it gives us a little reassurance that new starts will put long term commitment in their work and get through the bumps and hurdles that naturally occur in those first weeks. Bring back conscription , That's a joke before I get jumped on lol Wouldent work anyway!! They would just claim your being unfair "As a conscript, I'm glad that was a joke.🤨 | |||
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"It’s definitely not all of them but I do think it’s common for Gen Z to have a ‘couldn’t give a fuck’ attitude when it comes to work and putting the effort in. They don’t seem to have any sense of obligation or need to please, which I suppose has its pros and cons. I’m a millennial and think I care far too much about work and wish I could switch off. " And 18 years ago, when I was your age now, everyone was moaning about how lazy and work-shy Millenials were. And so the cycle continues. | |||
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"Not just the youth.....seems since covid its disappeared from a lot of people" Ye. I used to do loads of work, more than what my job required. Now I won't even work overtime even though I keep getting a bollocking for not doing so | |||
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"Is it me or does anyone else agree the youth of today ( 30 and under ) have a poor work ethic ? Don't get me.wrong there some great young lads ( can't comment on women ) as i dont work with any ,but it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " I agree. It's something I've noticed over the years. People coming into the workforce don't seem to have resilience anymore or a strong work ethic. They come from Schools or Colleges unprepared for a real life working environment. | |||
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"Is it me or does anyone else agree the youth of today ( 30 and under ) have a poor work ethic ? Don't get me.wrong there some great young lads ( can't comment on women ) as i dont work with any ,but it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " I find the ones I have contact with are great hard working people but what I have found is the priorities are different no probs traveling miles for a burger because it's on tick tok or paying over the top for a meal but don't want to spend money on fixing there car. | |||
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"Is it me or does anyone else agree the youth of today ( 30 and under ) have a poor work ethic ? Don't get me.wrong there some great young lads ( can't comment on women ) as i dont work with any ,but it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " Why do you think there has been a massive switch, let's look at a 30 year old, left school 14 years ago and went into the cruel world, at this time the country was in authority and the government of the day was making most go onto zero hour contracts and agencies took over the role of supplying the workforce, agencies exploited immigrants and could make more money on a immigrant then came brexit and illegals with many getting the necessary paperwork to work, all this drove wages down and never gave our youth the incentive to work, in my line of work I see many youngsters who are good grafters because they earn a good wage. | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜" totally agree | |||
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"the problem isnt the youth or youn that are getting into the workplace. its the employer who offers nothing to them. poor wages and high expectation from an emplyer who adds on task after task outside what your contracted to do or you face the sack. rent and house prices are out of reach and they know they will never have a job that provides a good income and pension like people had back in the 70s, 80s and 90s. so why would they bother? why bust your gut for an ungrateful employer who awards themselves bonuses, cars etc while the employee who makes his/her money is lucky to get 3% rise if that, a poor pension, no sick pay and long hours just to pay the rent let alone the extra bills. this is why they arent bothering. and i dont blame them." I agree with this. Effort used to somewhat equal reward but now it makes no difference so why would they bother. A lot of people are financially screwed no matter how hard they work. | |||
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If they took me I'd be in"You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50 | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50"Let's see him put his money where his mouth is. | |||
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"I'm in my 30's. I used to be such a hard worker. I'd always go above and beyond. I was taught if you do your job and more you'll get noticed. You will be valued. That was a lie. There is no job security. No such thing as a job for life. The wages are not enough to buy a house and start a family (if someone wanted to). Most of my generation will never own a home and will probably rent or stay with family for a very long time. The milestones my parents and grandparents had are completely out of reach. There isn't much incentive to work hard. We are not valued. We are just a number. Everyone gets paid the same no matter how hard we work. We're supposed to work until retirement and then we get a piss poor pension. We know we are screwed. So are Gen Z and the ones after them and after them. So now I work to get paid, I do the bare minimum. Then I enjoy my life outside of work. The 9-5 grind is a scam. Adult life is a scam. Life is for living. Consecutive governments have made poor choices which have destroyed our prospects and the opportunities for us to grow and thrive. I don't blame immigrants, refugees or asylum seekers. I blame our government. Politics is a big joke. Except the joke is on us (the public)." I couldn’t agree more. It’s not just limited to your age and younger. Those of us who have gone through a divorce are screwed too. We can’t even get help with a buy half the house scheme | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50"Just avoid the mortar platoon *unless you have surprise compulsory pegging in your preferences* 🤣🤣 | |||
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"I'm in my 30's. I used to be such a hard worker. I'd always go above and beyond. I was taught if you do your job and more you'll get noticed. You will be valued. That was a lie. There is no job security. No such thing as a job for life. The wages are not enough to buy a house and start a family (if someone wanted to). Most of my generation will never own a home and will probably rent or stay with family for a very long time. The milestones my parents and grandparents had are completely out of reach. There isn't much incentive to work hard. We are not valued. We are just a number. Everyone gets paid the same no matter how hard we work. We're supposed to work until retirement and then we get a piss poor pension. We know we are screwed. So are Gen Z and the ones after them and after them. So now I work to get paid, I do the bare minimum. Then I enjoy my life outside of work. The 9-5 grind is a scam. Adult life is a scam. Life is for living. Consecutive governments have made poor choices which have destroyed our prospects and the opportunities for us to grow and thrive. I don't blame immigrants, refugees or asylum seekers. I blame our government. Politics is a big joke. Except the joke is on us (the public)." Pretty much my sentiments exactly! 👏 | |||
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If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50"Really!! I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the heads up, that's really good information 👍 | |||
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"I'm in my 30's. I used to be such a hard worker. I'd always go above and beyond. I was taught if you do your job and more you'll get noticed. You will be valued. That was a lie. There is no job security. No such thing as a job for life. The wages are not enough to buy a house and start a family (if someone wanted to). Most of my generation will never own a home and will probably rent or stay with family for a very long time. The milestones my parents and grandparents had are completely out of reach. There isn't much incentive to work hard. We are not valued. We are just a number. Everyone gets paid the same no matter how hard we work. We're supposed to work until retirement and then we get a piss poor pension. We know we are screwed. So are Gen Z and the ones after them and after them. So now I work to get paid, I do the bare minimum. Then I enjoy my life outside of work. The 9-5 grind is a scam. Adult life is a scam. Life is for living. Consecutive governments have made poor choices which have destroyed our prospects and the opportunities for us to grow and thrive. I don't blame immigrants, refugees or asylum seekers. I blame our government. Politics is a big joke. Except the joke is on us (the public)." I do agree with this i do worry that people won't ve able to but there own home , never get on the ladder and chuck out ridiculously high amounts of money on rents , the retirement age also keeps going up !! I stay clear of politics as I know nothing about it , or zero hour contracts and my post was originally to see if it was a trend , and it appears it isent , im just unlucky with my experience lol , | |||
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If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50
Really!! I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the heads up, that's really good information 👍"I served from from 17 to 35 and would love to go back , never wanted to leave in the first place lol | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it "I would still be serving but I got a medical discharge after an accident , I still have some involvement with the cadets bit they've even made that difficult with th red tape brigade | |||
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"Long haired fellows.. ..nothing will come of them!" And the music they listen to... ...doesn't even have a tune. (Feel free to add any more lazy stereotypes 🤣🤣) | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50
Really!! I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the heads up, that's really good information 👍"Be aware though that the Strategic Reserve (Recall) age limit has been changed to 65! So if the shit hits the fan you will be sucking on a Werther’s as you go into battle!  | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50
Really!! I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the heads up, that's really good information 👍
Be aware though that the Strategic Reserve (Recall) age limit has been changed to 65! So if the shit hits the fan you will be sucking on a Werther’s as you go into battle! "😂😂 | |||
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"... it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor To be fair, for the majority of people, the exchange rate of a day's work for a days pay is poor 💜" It’s actually very competitive in construction and well above minimum wage | |||
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"I lead a team with about 40% under 30 and they work just as hard as anyone else. What’s really changed is expectations. Younger people focus more on results than sitting at a desk for long hours, and they’re far less willing to tolerate toxic environments, poor pay or unreasonable demands. There have always been lazy or entitled people in the work place that’s not generational. The difference now is younger workers have better boundaries, and honestly that’s probably a good thing..... I was expected to put up with sexual harassment in my first jobs. " That's so true , well said, I can remember in the 90s openly racist and sexist senior managers were just eye-rolled and tolerated by people. And the culture of being last to leave the office! The best employees are often 1st to leave the office because they get their work done faster than everyone else. | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in"That's volunteering, then. Don't force that onto an entire generation. | |||
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"Bring back conscription Are you joining ? You are under 50 so fine for it
If they took me I'd be in
You can join the reserves at anytime you know right. The raf reserves has great roles for qrf / gunners / engineers and they recruit right up into early 50
Really!! I'm going to look into that. Thanks for the heads up, that's really good information 👍
I served from from 17 to 35 and would love to go back , never wanted to leave in the first place lol "Wonderful. That's your life choice, and it's clearly worked for you. But your life choice shouldn't be made compulsory for everyone else. X | |||
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"I wouldn't say so. Older generations have been taught that you 'live to work' when it should be the other way around. I think this generation is less likely to put up with toxic work environments and the expectations of working overtime, sometimes unpaid "because that's what we do here". I worked in a well known supermarket where I was told by the manager that we all work through our break and just grab a bite to eat when we can. I was whispered about for sitting down in the staff room to eat my lunch. " I'm a Union rep and that is against the law. You're legally entitled to a break. | |||
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" I'm a Union rep and that is against the law. You're legally entitled to a break." Everyone should join a Union. | |||
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"Is it me or does anyone else agree the youth of today ( 30 and under ) have a poor work ethic ? Don't get me.wrong there some great young lads ( can't comment on women ) as i dont work with any ,but it just seems there attitude to a days work for a days pay is poor " All the youngers I know have fantastic work ethics but the way the country is going they probably feel like they have something to prove | |||
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"There's plenty of work shy people of all ages ,the ones who are work shy usually have the biggest attitudes as well. The thing I've noticed with the under 30s ,particularly under 25s you can't tell them anything because apparently they already know everything. As a tradesman you have to be open to ways of doing things and be prepared to listen to more experienced people. "  I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids! Leave home while you still know everything'.
I think we've all suffered from the youngster who thinks because you're older you're obviously using outdated methods. If a job wasn't time critical I used to enjoy letting them find out the hard way.
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" I'm a Union rep and that is against the law. You're legally entitled to a break. Everyone should join a Union. " Agreed. We do a lot to help people in difficult situations with companies. Add to that member benefits which people don't even know exist. Without us companies will continue to break the law unchallenged. Staggering the amount of Managers that don't even know their own policies and the law surrounding it. | |||
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"In my experience they are pretty ok as long as you can separate them from their phones. Used to have guys that thought it made them look busy, or acted like it was a shield of invisibility. The other aspect is that, as a manager, I also have to take responsibility for communicating in a way that they act upon what I am asking. Remember they are a product of older generation's parenting and education. We created the society that enabled it. " I disagree, we never created it, government policies that took away job security and the use of agencies to provide the work force resulted in what we have today the first stepping stones into work are full of foreign workers, you also have to be 18 to go onto construction sites unless your an apprentice, what we have now is the result of greed, I see kids not working who's dad and grandads where grafters which I believe is built into your DNA | |||
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"I wouldn't say so. Older generations have been taught that you 'live to work' when it should be the other way around. I think this generation is less likely to put up with toxic work environments and the expectations of working overtime, sometimes unpaid "because that's what we do here". I worked in a well known supermarket where I was told by the manager that we all work through our break and just grab a bite to eat when we can. I was whispered about for sitting down in the staff room to eat my lunch. I'm a Union rep and that is against the law. You're legally entitled to a break." Been a long time for me but aren't you allowed a break after something like 4 hours? | |||
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"I wouldn't say so. Older generations have been taught that you 'live to work' when it should be the other way around. I think this generation is less likely to put up with toxic work environments and the expectations of working overtime, sometimes unpaid "because that's what we do here". I worked in a well known supermarket where I was told by the manager that we all work through our break and just grab a bite to eat when we can. I was whispered about for sitting down in the staff room to eat my lunch. I'm a Union rep and that is against the law. You're legally entitled to a break. Been a long time for me but aren't you allowed a break after something like 4 hours?" If you work more than 6 hours you are entitled to a 20 min break... 12 hours you are entitled to 1 hour. | |||
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