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By *ockwellin OP   Man
4 hours ago

Over there...

Fabswingers is in the news today as a woman outs her time her and accuses ex-husband if forcing her into sex with strangers.

Check out BBC news online.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87q7g48y4po

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By *itSurreyCoupleCouple
4 hours ago

Reigate

Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all?

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By *oneyBee200Woman
4 hours ago

Kent


"Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? "

New members incoming

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By *onin25Man
4 hours ago

Durham


"Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? "

Bring more married men who fantasise about their wives sleeping with other men to the site but not bring the wives?

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By *avishingRichRudeMan
4 hours ago

Manchester/Leeds

Fresh meat
"Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all?

New members incoming "

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By *he MinionMan
4 hours ago

Surrey


"Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all?

New members incoming "

More men

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By *ornyguy666Man
3 hours ago

Nottingham


"Just read this and came straight over.

Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? "

wow

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By *he MinionMan
3 hours ago

Surrey

Not 100% sure what to make of the story if i am honest.

Either way it will swell the membership numbers

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By *lectrictouchMan
3 hours ago

inverarary

So own up any of the 100 men to

Meet her on here ?

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By *ornyguy666Man
3 hours ago

Nottingham

Is crazy they got hundreds of meets i can't get shit

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By *ellinever70Woman
3 hours ago

Ayrshire

I hope it serves as a cautionary tale

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By *omsubdevonCouple
3 hours ago

Newton Abbot

I see this as more of abuse and controlling behaviour. The site and activities she was involved with are a symptom of the coercive behaviour of her narcissistic husband. I do feel for her massively though.

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By *lectrictouchMan
3 hours ago

inverarary


"I see this as more of abuse and controlling behaviour. The site and activities she was involved with are a symptom of the coercive behaviour of her narcissistic husband. I do feel for her massively though. "

If fab wasn’t there then he would

Have found other ways dogging or classified adds

Etc .

Who remembers the contact mag days and discreet adverts in newsagents

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By *ike_76Man
3 hours ago

This is exactly one of the reasons that I would never meet anyone outside of a club setting...absolute nightmare!

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By *ourpornfixMan
3 hours ago

East Cheshire

A common theme in forums is "how to I persuade my wife". This woman was not just persuaded but coerced into sex, which is just another form of abuse. It would be nice to think that men here would think twice about their actions, but that's quite a fantasy.

Still. I believe the police can obtain details about people of interest from the site owners...

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By *ornucopiaMan
3 hours ago

Bexley

The government willprobably be forced to ban adults from using Fab 'for their own good'..

..and so they should, with so many children not concerned over what their parents are doing!

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By *eorge AtazderMan
3 hours ago

Exeter

The story suggests the site is set up for this sort of behaviour - ‘facilitated abuse’ but if it wasn’t here then it would be some other site.

‘The BBC didn’t ask for figures from other swinging sites’ is also telling

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 hours ago

couple, us we him her.

Undercover reporters will hiding in plain sight looking to bag a juicy scoop .

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By *uaveNightsMan
3 hours ago

Canvey Island

“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.”

This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”.

There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts.

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By *rispy KremeMan
3 hours ago

wolves

With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

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By *ayKellyMan
3 hours ago

Kinross

So when a female says Yes, yes, she actually means no.

This is quite an alarming read:

Ruth's story raises a central question: how and why can people appear to agree, even enthusiastically, to sex they do not want?

Consent can be complicated, an expert tells us.

"It's quite possible for people to appear to consent to sex they don't want," says Prof Nicola Gavey, from the University of Auckland, who has researched unwanted sex since the 1980s.

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By *ora the explorerWoman
3 hours ago

Paradise, Herts


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

"

🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles.

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By *a LunaWoman
3 hours ago

Wales


"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.”

This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”.

There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts."

I made the mistake of googling Fab and Police Crime Reports and it gives you details of crimes reported that mention Fab specifically. There is not 100’s, but there is enough to give pause. Stalking is mentioned, for example.

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By *rHotNottsMan
2 hours ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"So when a female says Yes, yes, she actually means no.

This is quite an alarming read:

Ruth's story raises a central question: how and why can people appear to agree, even enthusiastically, to sex they do not want?

Consent can be complicated, an expert tells us.

"It's quite possible for people to appear to consent to sex they don't want," says Prof Nicola Gavey, from the University of Auckland, who has researched unwanted sex since the 1980s."

I've attended events with in laws I really didn't want to go to , often under pressure, but I did because I knew it made her happy.

Not a great example but in relationship's consenting to anything is often not completely free of pressure, expectation or compromise , that doesn't automatically make it abuse or coercion. There's a big difference between agreeing enthusiastically to sex with hundreds of men , often initiating it yourself and then later regretting it, to being forced or coerced into something.

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By *mf123Man
2 hours ago

with one foot out the door

University of sydney has been replaced by auckland i noticed it is a sad tale also

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By *kphooey43Man
2 hours ago

Barnet


"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.”

This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”.

There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts."

That was one of the points that struck me, with the report going on to say:

"Their replies identified 329 reports mentioning the site, including allegations of r*pe, other serious sexual offences, controlling and coercive behaviour, harassment, bl*ckmail, stalking, assault and possession of extreme pornography."

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By *uaveNightsMan
2 hours ago

Canvey Island


"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.”

This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”.

There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts.

I made the mistake of googling Fab and Police Crime Reports and it gives you details of crimes reported that mention Fab specifically. There is not 100’s, but there is enough to give pause. Stalking is mentioned, for example.

"

Indeed, there’s been many a time where I’ve just wanted to publicly call out an extremely questionable post and yet, others see it as “just a bit of harmless fun”

Whilst there may not be 100’s showing up in the Google searches, not every report is in the public news, strong chance they’ve FOIA’d the information from them directly.

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By *Effy-Woman
2 hours ago

Scotland

I haven't read the article, but i just know that nothing nice is ever said about the swinging community.

That being said, a woman feeling coerced into this lifestyle isn't a shock. You only have to look at the multiple threads made about convincing their wives. It's not the first and won't be the last.

I hope that woman manages to reach out for some therapy.

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By *uaveNightsMan
2 hours ago

Canvey Island


"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.”

This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”.

There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts.

That was one of the points that struck me, with the report going on to say:

"Their replies identified 329 reports mentioning the site, including allegations of r*pe, other serious sexual offences, controlling and coercive behaviour, harassment, bl*ckmail, stalking, assault and possession of extreme pornography.""

There we go, short of requiring all new members to go through a background check prior to joining, there’s no reasonable way to stamp this disgusting behaviour out here.

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By *rHotNottsMan
2 hours ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. "

That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners.

I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men

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By *ora the explorerWoman
2 hours ago

Paradise, Herts


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles.

That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners.

I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men

"

It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no??

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By *qushDivineCouple
2 hours ago

Gloucester

BBC have made a seven part podcast series too.

Site is about to get a lot of new people 🙈

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
2 hours ago

Crumpet Castle

I've read the article.

My immediate thoughts are that websites should not be held responsible.

She was having car sex with men, filming it and sending them to her husband.

A website cannot be held responsible for what adults do offsite.

If she feels she was co erced by her husband then she should sue him.

What is her responsibility in all of this ?

How is it any different from when a partner watches from the end of a bed or when a partner verbally shares their sexual goings on ?

The ' how do I get my wife to join ' are in NO WAY related to this. Those posts ask how can I encourage my wife to engage in swinging they DO NOT ask ' how can I encourage my wife to have sex she doesn't want with over 100 men , video it and send it to me.'

If you had a meet and thought ..... fucking hell I went through with it but I didn't really fancy her/him - would you hold someone else responsible ?

If I break into 100 banks can I turn to the judge and say ..... they made me do it , I didn't want to though , and expect to have sympathy etc ?

My early feelings are that this is fodder and some people will see how much it is worth for them, especially after recent cases in France etc.

I do hope that NO legal action is taken against the site what so ever.

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By *a LunaWoman
2 hours ago

Wales

I’m going to be giving those messages that start with “can I ask you a question?” a hard stare for the next few months. Just in case.

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By *vaRoseWoman
2 hours ago

Ankh-Morpork

I felt sick to my stomach reading martins comments on how he had met so many women and thought only 50% had consented, but he continued to meet. He admitted it was assault (can’t use the R word on fab) but clearly he kept going.

So much in the article reinforces my issues with the posters who want to share pics of their wives, the threads on persuading a spouse to swing, and the posts about setting up surprise meets for partners.

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By *rHotNottsMan
2 hours ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles.

That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners.

I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men

It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no?? "

In this situation , because it's about couples. But 'I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles' is ridiculous, it's coercive, pressuring and controlling you need to be aware of and in my experience on here it's almost exclusively single men

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By *ora the explorerWoman
2 hours ago

Paradise, Herts


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles.

That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners.

I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men

It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no??

In this situation , because it's about couples. But 'I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles' is ridiculous, it's coercive, pressuring and controlling you need to be aware of and in my experience on here it's almost exclusively single men"

Exactly. “In this situation” which is what I’m talking about. 🤷‍♀️

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By *eximus MaximusMan
2 hours ago

Up North


"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it.

CNN did an investigation on them

"

^^ he’s not read the article

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By *iptonmalexxMan
2 hours ago

tipton

Admin should be able to see the data if new sign-up increase massively

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By *actile TensionMan
2 hours ago

Sussex

This doesn't make Chris look good at all

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By *gent CoulsonMan
2 hours ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

The story is alarming I feel for the woman, but have to question she was arranging meetings herself.

I have been approached by a husband who wanted to get his wife into swinging, when I questioned him if he had actually spoken to his wife about it, he went quiet, and the profile went unlos a few days later.

If arranging to meet a couple, I do try to do my due diligence and actually and speak to both parties, or a social beforehand, and if I get a gut feeling that something is off or doesn't feel right I will go with my gut and back away, one of the reasons I rarely do instant meets

Fortunately I have not had that situation where you turn up and the woman is scared or seems pressured.

Coming from the kink world, consent is key and everyone has the right to say no thanks

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By *oxy-RedWoman
2 hours ago

pink panther territory

I've just read it ,what a hard read,why would a married man do that to his wife? It's sickening, and to read Martins views I find it hard to question why he didn't walk away

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
1 hour ago

Crumpet Castle

I feel for her too and coercion and consent are not simple. She may very well have been coerced and now she has left him she feels regret at what she did ( I chose those words deliberately ) and is venting her feelings at him and the site.

There are many things I see and read on here and the word 'kink' churns my stomach. Not all the time, but most times it is used as a conversation stopper e.g. Don't kink shame. Or in everyday language ' don't have an opinion about what I do cos i want everyone to 'normalise' it.

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By *acavityMan
1 hour ago

Redditch

I know a lady who withdrew consent (temporarily) during sex, because she needed a break. The man carried on, ignoring her.

She sensibly cut all ties as soon as she was away.

He escalated to abusive texts, and threatening to send intimate pictures of her to her work (which would have got her fired)

She went to the police and got it dealt with.

She met him on a “normal” dating site. Don’t know if they have stats for every bad thing resulting from each dating site.

A worrying quote from the article

“She did arrange some of the meetings herself, she says, and would appear enthusiastic about swinging, but she now says this was something she never truly wanted to do.”

I feel sorry for her. But it sounds like the men are not in the wrong, except for her husband who should be locked up.

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By *a LunaWoman
1 hour ago

Wales


"This doesn't make Chris look good at all"

Or Martin.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
1 hour ago

Crumpet Castle

But what if he thought she was consenting ?

It does say she was willing/cheerful externally.

She did manage to eventually get away from him and i'm glad of that but I can't discern whether this is an afterthought once she got away. Maybe shame kicked in.

I'm often alarmed by some women who think it's respectful and loving. ( those that are and can distinguish the difference get off the ceiling )

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By *ools and the brainCouple
1 hour ago

couple, us we him her.


"I feel for her too and coercion and consent are not simple. She may very well have been coerced and now she has left him she feels regret at what she did ( I chose those words deliberately ) and is venting her feelings at him and the site.

There are many things I see and read on here and the word 'kink' churns my stomach. Not all the time, but most times it is used as a conversation stopper e.g. Don't kink shame. Or in everyday language ' don't have an opinion about what I do cos i want everyone to 'normalise' it. "

Absolutely GC,you only have to read the stories and fantasy section for a true insight into some user's mindset many trying to normalise toxic and frankly disturbing stuff under the guise of it being a "story "

This is supposed to be a swinging site ,somewhere along the way it seems to have morphed into " anything goes site" as long as you pay your subscription.

Protection of consent and the safety of its users(particularly women)should be number 1 for the site and other users.

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By *ittle miss sunshineWoman
1 hour ago

south sheilds

Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷‍♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷‍♀️

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
1 hour ago

Crumpet Castle


"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷‍♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷‍♀️"

And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ?

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By *issy LanaTV/TS
1 hour ago

Slough

Shocking reading of coercion. Can but only hope the victim finds peace in her new found life now and can forget about the whole ordeal over time...!

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By *ittle miss sunshineWoman
1 hour ago

south sheilds


"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷‍♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷‍♀️

And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ?"

Don't take them then. I mean I don't blame them I often don't want to go for a walk either lol

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By *icentiousXMan
1 hour ago

London

It's plainly obvious that a lot of abusive, coercive behaviour goes on via this site. I believe the site should do more to safeguard it's users but they likely won't.

For them it's about making money, and they don't like being criticised so I have to tread carefully here.

I've been a victim of stalking (6 years of hell) and have had a partners photos taken from here, which were then posted on a forum 'outing' women. They even found out her address and where she worked, all posted on the same forum where men openly share this stuff.

If you think your photos and data are safe on here, I guarantee you they're absolutely not. And all those pointless, "I'll sue you" posts are worthless.

It isn't just Fab, anything you post online is no longer your property. We had loads of Police involvement and ultimately it was removed but still happens ever day on here. I'm very experienced but still occasionally get tripped up by them still to this day.

I had one just last week steal a face photo via TeleG. God knows to what end. It's happening.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
1 hour ago

Crumpet Castle


"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷‍♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷‍♀️

And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ?

Don't take them then. I mean I don't blame them I often don't want to go for a walk either lol "

I had a good walk this morning. There's a link for the article in the opening post. See what you think

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
1 hour ago

Reading

I think the lesson from this is to men that if something doesn't feel right then leave. The man Martin will have to live with his complicity.

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By *wingersGilfandDHCouple
1 hour ago

London, United Kingdom

Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

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By *laytime_13Woman
55 minutes ago

Lincs

There's a thread on another (non swinging) website at the moment, an AMA as a sub. Apart from it's heartbreakingly obvious it's coercive control and abuse, not a healthy sub/Dom relationship.

The fact these behaviours manifest themselves through the lifestyle isn't the problem. Swinging and kink isn't the problem, it's the men's (yes I'm generalising) underlying behaviours and attitudes.

We see it here often enough, how do I convince my wife, will anyone wank over my wife's panties (and we all know she's blissfully unaware) and so on. If they weren't here it would be elsewhere. Here just happens to be the biggest available platform. The whole thing is not dissimilar in my mind to the thread a month or two ago about the website with many visitors a month about how to have sex with a woman whilst she's asleep and so on.

I'll hold my hands up and say I've done stuff on meets that I was uncomfortable with but when you're in the moment it can be hard to say no, but it takes two. (I'm generally much better at not doing this now thank f*CK) so she does have my sympathy, I've been in an abusive relationship, it's easier said than done to just say no. The guy who carried on when he knew the women weren't interested does not get my sympathy.

Also, did I read it right - 600,000 monthly subscribers. The owners are doing alright out of us all 🤑

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By *025IncomingMan
54 minutes ago

Co.Antrim

You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂

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By *mf123Man
53 minutes ago

with one foot out the door


"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂"
ironic user name alert

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By *ornucopiaMan
51 minutes ago

Bexley

I wonder what the journalists make of the multitude of

'Whose[sic] wanking now?'

Threads?

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By *mf123Man
50 minutes ago

with one foot out the door


"I wonder what the journalists make of the multitude of

'Whose[sic] wanking now?'

Threads?"

they probly in em

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By *xplore_With_MeMan
43 minutes ago

Lincs

Any statement from the site owners?

May have missed it if there was…..

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By *icentiousXMan
42 minutes ago

London


"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂"

You think this thread is funny? Seriously

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By *erry 58Man
41 minutes ago

doncaster

Every action has a reaction

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By *llie AssMan
39 minutes ago

South Yorkshire


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. "

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

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By *heTattooedDomMan
38 minutes ago

Winnersh


"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂"

So you think this is funny? A story about coercive control and that is your takeaway?

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By *025IncomingMan
38 minutes ago

Co.Antrim


"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂

You think this thread is funny? Seriously "

Did I say it was funny? Naw

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By *wingersGilfandDHCouple
38 minutes ago

London, United Kingdom


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg."

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance

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By *025IncomingMan
37 minutes ago

Co.Antrim


"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂

So you think this is funny? A story about coercive control and that is your takeaway?"

Once again, naw I don't think anything funny, I didn't even read it

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By *r SensualMan
35 minutes ago

London

This is/was such a sad read… however it just re-emphasises why I don’t entertain “male led” couples who gate-keep pre meet conversation with their other half too.

All this “she trusts my judgement to select the right guys” blah blah blah. Not trying to hear that from you pal! No conversation with the woman too = no meet.

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By *uaveNightsMan
34 minutes ago

Canvey Island


"Every action has a reaction "

It doesn’t though does it? We see lots of threads and profiles on here where the woman looks clearly uncomfortable or the contents of a post just screams major issues and yet no one dares raise their voice because they might think no one will fuck them.

It’s a shitty situation once again where we do not hold members of our own sex to higher standards and then moan when others start holding that damn mirror up to us.

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By *vonCalling2022Couple
33 minutes ago

Whyteleafe

It’s a strange read. You think “how on earth?” and yet I suppose it highlights coercive relationships.

She’s very brave to not remain anonymous.

Sadly there will always be examples like this, albeit rare. The endless videos on here of men quite frankly treating women like shit, the way they talk to them and act with them as if it makes them some kind of powerful stud. It’s vile.

But let’s remember 99% of swinging is genuine people, consenting, having fun!

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By *gent CoulsonMan
29 minutes ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance "

almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old

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By *wingersGilfandDHCouple
28 minutes ago

London, United Kingdom


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old"

It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship..

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By *gent CoulsonMan
27 minutes ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old

It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.."

same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick

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By *wingersGilfandDHCouple
26 minutes ago

London, United Kingdom


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old

It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick"

Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old.

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By *gent CoulsonMan
23 minutes ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old

It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick

Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old. "

neither would I, but you must see the duality of you statement, it's ok for a woman to have a 30 year age gap, but not a man, irrespective of ages

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
23 minutes ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Consent is key and it's very hard for this site to police whether someone is truly happy to be here.

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By *eductiveEncountersWoman
21 minutes ago

South West

It's very sad, but unfortunately it's true. There are ladies who are being forced into situations with other men and women. I've seen it. And I've been told by other people that they've witnessed it.

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By *wingersGilfandDHCouple
21 minutes ago

London, United Kingdom


"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control.

It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg.

That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old

It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick

Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old. neither would I, but you must see the duality of you statement, it's ok for a woman to have a 30 year age gap, but not a man, irrespective of ages"

Yea it is okay.

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By *ilk_TreMan
15 minutes ago

Wherever the party is!


"It’s a strange read. You think “how on earth?” and yet I suppose it highlights coercive relationships.

She’s very brave to not remain anonymous.

Sadly there will always be examples like this, albeit rare. The endless videos on here of men quite frankly treating women like shit, the way they talk to them and act with them as if it makes them some kind of powerful stud. It’s vile.

But let’s remember 99% of swinging is genuine people, consenting, having fun!"

99?

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By *ARKblondeCouple
15 minutes ago

london

This is on women's hour right now

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By *anmjmosesMan
5 minutes ago

M1 southbound

Just read the article. I wonder if the woman was allowed to engage on her terms if she would have probably enjoyed it. Her ex husband sounds like a complete misogynistic tool. There was probably red flags about him and the relationship from the outset that would've probably stood out.

The man that was interviewed about his encounters... I can't fathom to understand that he'd found himself in situations that didn't feel right or where he felt the sex was not consensual but continued. As much as people crave sex, you would hope that decency and common sense prevails, but then again I guess this is reflective of part of the society that we live in and equally reflective in here. Perhaps some may say in hindsight he has considered these things. I read another post in this that mentioned men asking "how to persuade their wives to swing". If you are having to come on here to ask how to persuade someone to swing or have sex with others, then that should conform that they are probably not wanting to do it. If you've been in a relationship with someone and you cannot confidently talk about sex and desires or kinks and need others to tell you how... There's an issue there. I imagine these same people have probably asked chat gpt the same type questions 😅.

Rant over

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