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"Just read this and came straight over. Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? " New members incoming | |||
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"Just read this and came straight over. Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? " Bring more married men who fantasise about their wives sleeping with other men to the site but not bring the wives? | |||
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"Just read this and came straight over. Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? New members incoming | |||
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"Just read this and came straight over. Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? New members incoming More men | |||
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"Just read this and came straight over. Wonder if this will have an effect on the website at all? " wow | |||
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"I see this as more of abuse and controlling behaviour. The site and activities she was involved with are a symptom of the coercive behaviour of her narcissistic husband. I do feel for her massively though. " If fab wasn’t there then he would Have found other ways dogging or classified adds Etc . Who remembers the contact mag days and discreet adverts in newsagents | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them " 🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. | |||
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"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.” This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”. There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts." I made the mistake of googling Fab and Police Crime Reports and it gives you details of crimes reported that mention Fab specifically. There is not 100’s, but there is enough to give pause. Stalking is mentioned, for example. | |||
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"So when a female says Yes, yes, she actually means no. This is quite an alarming read: Ruth's story raises a central question: how and why can people appear to agree, even enthusiastically, to sex they do not want? Consent can be complicated, an expert tells us. "It's quite possible for people to appear to consent to sex they don't want," says Prof Nicola Gavey, from the University of Auckland, who has researched unwanted sex since the 1980s." I've attended events with in laws I really didn't want to go to , often under pressure, but I did because I knew it made her happy. Not a great example but in relationship's consenting to anything is often not completely free of pressure, expectation or compromise , that doesn't automatically make it abuse or coercion. There's a big difference between agreeing enthusiastically to sex with hundreds of men , often initiating it yourself and then later regretting it, to being forced or coerced into something. | |||
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"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.” This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”. There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts." That was one of the points that struck me, with the report going on to say: "Their replies identified 329 reports mentioning the site, including allegations of r*pe, other serious sexual offences, controlling and coercive behaviour, harassment, bl*ckmail, stalking, assault and possession of extreme pornography." | |||
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"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.” This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”. There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts. I made the mistake of googling Fab and Police Crime Reports and it gives you details of crimes reported that mention Fab specifically. There is not 100’s, but there is enough to give pause. Stalking is mentioned, for example. " Indeed, there’s been many a time where I’ve just wanted to publicly call out an extremely questionable post and yet, others see it as “just a bit of harmless fun” Whilst there may not be 100’s showing up in the Google searches, not every report is in the public news, strong chance they’ve FOIA’d the information from them directly. | |||
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"“Separately, police forces across the UK have told us the site has been mentioned in hundreds of recent crime reports.” This is also a worrying issue, see it often when posts such as “how do I persuade my wife”, “seeing people in public who have blocked me”, “send photos of my wife without her knowing”. There needs to be a collective clamp down on these, and other extremely questionable, posts. That was one of the points that struck me, with the report going on to say: "Their replies identified 329 reports mentioning the site, including allegations of r*pe, other serious sexual offences, controlling and coercive behaviour, harassment, bl*ckmail, stalking, assault and possession of extreme pornography."" There we go, short of requiring all new members to go through a background check prior to joining, there’s no reasonable way to stamp this disgusting behaviour out here. | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them 🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. " That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners. I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them 🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners. I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men " It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no?? | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them 🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners. I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no?? " In this situation , because it's about couples. But 'I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles' is ridiculous, it's coercive, pressuring and controlling you need to be aware of and in my experience on here it's almost exclusively single men | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them 🤔🤔. Having read the article it has nothing to do with cheating guys. It’s manipulative partners/husbands. I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles. That's unfair on the many couples profiles that are respectful and care deeply about their partners. I did a post in a while ago about women who felt pressured and coerced to have sex with guys after agreeing to a social. Lots of women felt they had, I know many of them personally also pressured into giving verifications so the seemingly 'popular' guys seem even more popular and trusted. It happens a lot with single men It’s not unfair?? I didn’t say it was all couples. In this situation it will be more the couples’ accounts not the single male accounts no?? In this situation , because it's about couples. But 'I would say it’s the couple accounts you need to be wary of more than the single guy profiles' is ridiculous, it's coercive, pressuring and controlling you need to be aware of and in my experience on here it's almost exclusively single men" Exactly. “In this situation” which is what I’m talking about. 🤷♀️ | |||
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"With the amount of cheating guys here, being abusive and manipulative, I don't want this to turn into the other site that got exposed not so long ago for illegal and non consensual sexual abuse. Then guys posting pictures, videos about it. CNN did an investigation on them " ^^ he’s not read the article | |||
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"This doesn't make Chris look good at all" Or Martin. | |||
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"I feel for her too and coercion and consent are not simple. She may very well have been coerced and now she has left him she feels regret at what she did ( I chose those words deliberately ) and is venting her feelings at him and the site. There are many things I see and read on here and the word 'kink' churns my stomach. Not all the time, but most times it is used as a conversation stopper e.g. Don't kink shame. Or in everyday language ' don't have an opinion about what I do cos i want everyone to 'normalise' it. " Absolutely GC,you only have to read the stories and fantasy section for a true insight into some user's mindset many trying to normalise toxic and frankly disturbing stuff under the guise of it being a "story " This is supposed to be a swinging site ,somewhere along the way it seems to have morphed into " anything goes site" as long as you pay your subscription. Protection of consent and the safety of its users(particularly women)should be number 1 for the site and other users. | |||
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"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷♀️" And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ? | |||
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"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷♀️ And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ?" Don't take them then. I mean I don't blame them I often don't want to go for a walk either lol | |||
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"Unfortunately fab is often in the news. Because it's not understood 🤷♀️ as long as everything is safe, same, and Conseual then I don't see why it's an issue. I haven't read the story. But I have seen posts from men wanting to pressure their wives into the life style. But what about the women who want to pressure the men into it 🤷♀️ And WHAT ABOUT the dogs that don't want to go for a walk ? Don't take them then. I mean I don't blame them I often don't want to go for a walk either lol " I had a good walk this morning. There's a link for the article in the opening post. See what you think | |||
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"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂" ironic user name alert | |||
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"I wonder what the journalists make of the multitude of 'Whose[sic] wanking now?' Threads?" | |||
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"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂" You think this thread is funny? Seriously | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. " It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. | |||
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"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂" So you think this is funny? A story about coercive control and that is your takeaway? | |||
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"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂 You think this thread is funny? Seriously " Did I say it was funny? Naw | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg." That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance | |||
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"You just know there will be a massive influx of new members 😂 So you think this is funny? A story about coercive control and that is your takeaway?" Once again, naw I don't think anything funny, I didn't even read it | |||
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"Every action has a reaction " It doesn’t though does it? We see lots of threads and profiles on here where the woman looks clearly uncomfortable or the contents of a post just screams major issues and yet no one dares raise their voice because they might think no one will fuck them. It’s a shitty situation once again where we do not hold members of our own sex to higher standards and then moan when others start holding that damn mirror up to us. | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance " almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old" It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.." same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick" Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old. | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old. " neither would I, but you must see the duality of you statement, it's ok for a woman to have a 30 year age gap, but not a man, irrespective of ages | |||
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"Men are pigs. And most women on here do it to keep their husband happy because he'll cheat regardless. So they feel like they have some control. It is all so horrifying and depressing. I've reported countless profiles where it appears clear to me that the women in the pictures is unaware she is on here, but that is presumably just the tip of the iceberg. That's tame compared to the obvious R that goes on. Twenty year olds dating fifty year olds? How can there not be a power imbalance almost as bad as a 67 year old dating a 30 year old It's not though. He's 30. Not 20 and frankly with respect, men have more power in a relationship.. same age gap though, which when applied to men gave you the ick Because men have more power in a relationship. I'd never date a twenty year old. neither would I, but you must see the duality of you statement, it's ok for a woman to have a 30 year age gap, but not a man, irrespective of ages" Yea it is okay. | |||
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"It’s a strange read. You think “how on earth?” and yet I suppose it highlights coercive relationships. She’s very brave to not remain anonymous. Sadly there will always be examples like this, albeit rare. The endless videos on here of men quite frankly treating women like shit, the way they talk to them and act with them as if it makes them some kind of powerful stud. It’s vile. But let’s remember 99% of swinging is genuine people, consenting, having fun!" 99? | |||
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