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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility" I take it your a parent? | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility I take it your a parent?" No im not and i don't need to be. I work in IT and Ive got a lot of neices and nephews | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility I take it your a parent? No im not and i don't need to be. I work in IT and Ive got a lot of neices and nephews" Then you really shouldn't tell parents to take some responsibility as you really don't have a clue about parenting | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility I take it your a parent? No im not and i don't need to be. I work in IT and Ive got a lot of neices and nephews" 🤣🤣. Opinion not even valid then. You don’t have kids 🤷♀️ | |||
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"Prob should have brought some age restrictions on VPN use too. Apparently that’s how most Australian kids get around the ban. It’s certainly how people get around the porn site restrictions in the uk. " That's the problem with it. I don't know how effective this will be because of VPNs | |||
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"It's definitely an interesting call. I find myself agreeing but also there are some safeguards already there so I think digital sessions teaching parents the parental controls that are already in place would be useful too." I think this does show that we are always a step behind the technology and government will and want can be slow but can also move pretty quickly. As someone that was physically and mentally bullied as a kid, I really detest the thought of a child getting that abuse potentially when using their own computer / phone / gaming device. | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility" Totally agree 💯 | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility" I think you have just highlighted the exact reason a ban is beneficial for the children that social target. | |||
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"Does this mean there will be forced age checks for us adults to use the likes of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter etc" Mandatory Digital IDs "but its to protect the kids" Seems like its going down that road cos who wouldnt sign up if its to protect people? Unless you have something to hide 🤷 government gets you every which way they can | |||
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" you always need some sort of control on things because if you didnt everyone would have weapons and be attacking each other over wheelie bins out early, " Im forever grateful for the one person who does their bin early so I know which one goes out next 😂😂 | |||
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"It's a bad thing, ther's already plenty of parental controls and features in place to restrict and monitor access. Parents are too lazy to invest the time to learn about and implement these features. Parents need to start taking some bloody responisibility I take it your a parent? No im not and i don't need to be. I work in IT and Ive got a lot of neices and nephews" I've helped many people set these up over the years on their children's phones. Yes parental controls exist. But kids will always find a way around them. The best solution is age verification checks to access social media sites, along with proof of ID. That can't be faked. But of course rhe conspiracy nuts go mental whenever they're asked to provide ID for anything online. Just look at how many (mostly men) kicked off when they had to confirm age to view their porn? 🤦🤦 Verified accounts would also result in accountability for what's posted, instead of being able to hide behind anonymous names and identities and post what BS people want to, along with shit stirring fake news, cyber bullying and basically arsehole online behaviour. The fact anyone can pretend to be anyone is what makes social media the cesspool that it is, and why things like the online safety bill and banning under 16's is necessary in the first place. Obi | |||
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" Yes some kids will get round this, but not all. " You had a typo Yes all kids will get round this, not some. | |||
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" The best solution is age verification checks to access social media sites, along with proof of ID. That can't be faked. " That isnt a solution. VERY easy to get around. Kids will know a way around it within the first day. It's only adults of a certain age who wont. Which is what all these measures are aimed at. | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , " and a man who has no clue how the internet works | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , " Or maybe research and science has led us to acknowledging such issues, the bad old days of the 'thick kid' falling massively behind the others who just happened to have dyslexia are thankfully gone..
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"I think it’s good in some ways but being a kid who struggles with social situations social media was a massive help for me and an outlet think they needed to create safer controls rather than ban it " I think I agree it’s not all bad, lots of positive people out there to follow. People will find a way to circumnavigate to find what they want. | |||
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" Social media is bad enough for adults never mind under 16’s!" It does raise the issue of when a kid becomes 16 and suddenly has access to social media rather than slowly being introduced to it over their life. How will they deal/cope with it. | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , and a man who has no clue how the internet works" Unfortunately I do , the internet starts trends , some harmless silly dances , some not so harmless , I have seen the rise in MH issues as we all have , and what is the reason , we live in the best times , no wars , high state benefits, no one should be struggling in this day and age but for some reason mentle health is the biggest reason for people not working or taking time off work because it's an easy excuse Don't get me wrong I truly believe there are people struggling with there mentle health such as PTSD from coming out of war zones and experiencing real trauma , but iv seen people claiming to have from a break up lol , the world is full of snow flakes and it's because they are influenced by what they see on the internet , this is why the government is changing the criteria for people to claim sick benefits for mentle health issues , they would just.come out and say it's because people are taking g the piss , but again if they did there would be uproar because you can't say the truth these day without upsetting people who then say it's effecting there mentle health I feel sorry for the genuine suffers , as a doctor friend of mine said " MH is the new bad back ,anyone can Google the symptoms | |||
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" Actual implementation & stopping workarounds will be difficult though, but at least the intent is there. " No it won't be "difficult", it is "impossible". So doing something knowing it can't work is good intent? Jeez.  | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , and a man who has no clue how the internet works Unfortunately I do , the internet starts trends , some harmless silly dances , some not so harmless , I have seen the rise in MH issues as we all have , and what is the reason , we live in the best times , no wars , high state benefits, no one should be struggling in this day and age but for some reason mentle health is the biggest reason for people not working or taking time off work because it's an easy excuse Don't get me wrong I truly believe there are people struggling with there mentle health such as PTSD from coming out of war zones and experiencing real trauma , but iv seen people claiming to have from a break up lol , the world is full of snow flakes and it's because they are influenced by what they see on the internet , this is why the government is changing the criteria for people to claim sick benefits for mentle health issues , they would just.come out and say it's because people are taking g the piss , but again if they did there would be uproar because you can't say the truth these day without upsetting people who then say it's effecting there mentle health I feel sorry for the genuine suffers , as a doctor friend of mine said " MH is the new bad back ,anyone can Google the symptoms "Cool beans, and NONE of that is solved by this. None at all. Because you have NO UNDERSTANDING of how the internet works, YOU think it is. It wont, and kids will carry on as normal, while SOME adults will remain ignorant. | |||
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" It does raise the issue of when a kid becomes 16 and suddenly has access to social media rather than slowly being introduced to it over their life. How will they deal/cope with it." It doesn't raise that issue, because they will have access to it under 16. This only difference is, some of their parents will no longer realise this. This puts most kids and parents in a MUCH WORSE situation | |||
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"Extreme in my view, too Nanny State. " Would you allow kids to buy cigarettes? | |||
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"Has just been announced. Is it a good thing or a bit extreme?" Unfortunately its a good thing but we as adults have created the need for it with the information that we require good or bad ,we as adults have become lazy its easy to do everything on your phone pay for this pay for that ,look up this look up that and we after all teach our kids our kids are our product ,a total ban wont stop all but most .For me the point of no return was seeing a group of a girlfriends kids texting each other in the same living room ,technology is good in one way but no so in another .  | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , and a man who has no clue how the internet works Unfortunately I do , the internet starts trends , some harmless silly dances , some not so harmless , I have seen the rise in MH issues as we all have , and what is the reason , we live in the best times , no wars , high state benefits, no one should be struggling in this day and age but for some reason mentle health is the biggest reason for people not working or taking time off work because it's an easy excuse Don't get me wrong I truly believe there are people struggling with there mentle health such as PTSD from coming out of war zones and experiencing real trauma , but iv seen people claiming to have from a break up lol , the world is full of snow flakes and it's because they are influenced by what they see on the internet , this is why the government is changing the criteria for people to claim sick benefits for mentle health issues , they would just.come out and say it's because people are taking g the piss , but again if they did there would be uproar because you can't say the truth these day without upsetting people who then say it's effecting there mentle health I feel sorry for the genuine suffers , as a doctor friend of mine said " MH is the new bad back ,anyone can Google the symptoms
Cool beans, and NONE of that is solved by this. None at all. Because you have NO UNDERSTANDING of how the internet works, YOU think it is.
It wont, and kids will carry on as normal, while SOME adults will remain ignorant.
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I deal with snow flakes all the time , I have one staff member who has been off nearly 4 weeks because his gf left him , the armed forces has over 55 percent increase in sickness since 1990 with the majority claiming MH issue , as an employer you cannot do anything about and these people know it , Google just how many claims for false dismissal have happend when an employer has sacked someone for time off due to mentle health !! You dare question someone on there return to work and they will spiel of the fact your not allowed to question them , it's quite simple , people know it's an easy way out .
Thank the lord that our parents and grandparents weren't like this , now they had an excuse to suffer with issues but they dident they struggled on with life , you go to Afghanistan or Iraq and see those people who have lost everything and literally have nothing ! We should be thankful for what we have , not sit at home on the internet picking up more tips on how to play the system , and making it harder for the genuine people to the help they need
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , and a man who has no clue how the internet works Unfortunately I do , the internet starts trends , some harmless silly dances , some not so harmless , I have seen the rise in MH issues as we all have , and what is the reason , we live in the best times , no wars , high state benefits, no one should be struggling in this day and age but for some reason mentle health is the biggest reason for people not working or taking time off work because it's an easy excuse Don't get me wrong I truly believe there are people struggling with there mentle health such as PTSD from coming out of war zones and experiencing real trauma , but iv seen people claiming to have from a break up lol , the world is full of snow flakes and it's because they are influenced by what they see on the internet , this is why the government is changing the criteria for people to claim sick benefits for mentle health issues , they would just.come out and say it's because people are taking g the piss , but again if they did there would be uproar because you can't say the truth these day without upsetting people who then say it's effecting there mentle health I feel sorry for the genuine suffers , as a doctor friend of mine said " MH is the new bad back ,anyone can Google the symptoms
Cool beans, and NONE of that is solved by this. None at all. Because you have NO UNDERSTANDING of how the internet works, YOU think it is.
It wont, and kids will carry on as normal, while SOME adults will remain ignorant.
I have a very good understanding of how it works
I deal with snow flakes all the time , I have one staff member who has been off nearly 4 weeks because his gf left him , the armed forces has over 55 percent increase in sickness since 1990 with the majority claiming MH issue , as an employer you cannot do anything about and these people know it , Google just how many claims for false dismissal have happend when an employer has sacked someone for time off due to mentle health !! You dare question someone on there return to work and they will spiel of the fact your not allowed to question them , it's quite simple , people know it's an easy way out .
Thank the lord that our parents and grandparents weren't like this , now they had an excuse to suffer with issues but they dident they struggled on with life , you go to Afghanistan or Iraq and see those people who have lost everything and literally have nothing ! We should be thankful for what we have , not sit at home on the internet picking up more tips on how to play the system , and making it harder for the genuine people to the help they need
Love to chat more but I have to cover someone who is off because his gf left him hahaha "Again, cool story. BUT AGAIN, NONE of your cool story is solved by this measure. None of it. BUT because you don't understand how the internet works, YOU think it will sove this. | |||
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"Yet another way of the government trying to control everyone and everything. Kids will find a way around the ban. " It’s like saying “well kids will still smoke” | |||
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"Definitely a good thing , maybe we will have some kids get to there early teens without knowing about ADHD - mental health issues and all the other tag along ailments everyone seems to have these days !! Social media sets trends and rarely are they good ones But im a man who believes we should have conscription lol , and a man who has no clue how the internet works Unfortunately I do , the internet starts trends , some harmless silly dances , some not so harmless , I have seen the rise in MH issues as we all have , and what is the reason , we live in the best times , no wars , high state benefits, no one should be struggling in this day and age but for some reason mentle health is the biggest reason for people not working or taking time off work because it's an easy excuse Don't get me wrong I truly believe there are people struggling with there mentle health such as PTSD from coming out of war zones and experiencing real trauma , but iv seen people claiming to have from a break up lol , the world is full of snow flakes and it's because they are influenced by what they see on the internet , this is why the government is changing the criteria for people to claim sick benefits for mentle health issues , they would just.come out and say it's because people are taking g the piss , but again if they did there would be uproar because you can't say the truth these day without upsetting people who then say it's effecting there mentle health I feel sorry for the genuine suffers , as a doctor friend of mine said " MH is the new bad back ,anyone can Google the symptoms
Cool beans, and NONE of that is solved by this. None at all. Because you have NO UNDERSTANDING of how the internet works, YOU think it is.
It wont, and kids will carry on as normal, while SOME adults will remain ignorant.
I have a very good understanding of how it works
I deal with snow flakes all the time , I have one staff member who has been off nearly 4 weeks because his gf left him , the armed forces has over 55 percent increase in sickness since 1990 with the majority claiming MH issue , as an employer you cannot do anything about and these people know it , Google just how many claims for false dismissal have happend when an employer has sacked someone for time off due to mentle health !! You dare question someone on there return to work and they will spiel of the fact your not allowed to question them , it's quite simple , people know it's an easy way out .
Thank the lord that our parents and grandparents weren't like this , now they had an excuse to suffer with issues but they dident they struggled on with life , you go to Afghanistan or Iraq and see those people who have lost everything and literally have nothing ! We should be thankful for what we have , not sit at home on the internet picking up more tips on how to play the system , and making it harder for the genuine people to the help they need
Love to chat more but I have to cover someone who is off because his gf left him hahaha
Again, cool story. BUT AGAIN, NONE of your cool story is solved by this measure. None of it. BUT because you don't understand how the internet works, YOU think it will sove this.
"Well I'd love someone to tell me how it works lol , It has many many good points, but also has many bad ones , I like many think banning under 16s from social media ,but cannot see how it will be governed, but iv recently duscoverd tic tok and can say hand on heart it's pathetic , yes some interesting content, so.e very amusing content , but lots is very concerning, how to seek help if your struggling , and most the issues are just day to issues which anyone would normal just see as part of life's daily struggles , but they advise seeking medical help and which drugs work !! But happy for someone to explain to me " how the internet works ' or as my teenage son says to me , you "just dont get it " lol with no explanation | |||
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"Well I think no one is thinking of people with difficulties that it helps and it’s not like the streets are safe at all either. I have been followed and harassed in the street numerous times over the years not even late at night, my parents worry more about my sister being out than being on the internet as they can control that more " You don’t reckon keeping 12-15 year olds out of spaces with people like Andrew Tate will reduce incidents of female violence? | |||
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"Well I think no one is thinking of people with difficulties that it helps and it’s not like the streets are safe at all either. I have been followed and harassed in the street numerous times over the years not even late at night, my parents worry more about my sister being out than being on the internet as they can control that more You don’t reckon keeping 12-15 year olds out of spaces with people like Andrew Tate will reduce incidents of female violence? " Yes that’s why I said previously they need to create a safer space and allow parents more controls | |||
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"Private Eye point out that research shows that the people most likely to fall for online scams and disinformation are the over 60s "GET EM BANNED I SAY (this may be a facetious comment) | |||
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"It's a good thing. Will it work in keeping them off social media? No. So all in all, it's a pretty pointless law. " Vary fair point , maybe they need to focus on the people who create the harmful content , still a massive task but gotta be easier than banning every child !? I was on tic tok earlier!! Yes I know sad but kills time lol , and am amazed at how many o f. S people and corn stars are on there , that's gotta be wrong ? I only went on there to watch fishing tips and some bloke who goes wild swimming!!.and somehow they pop up | |||
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"It's a good thing. Will it work in keeping them off social media? No. So all in all, it's a pretty pointless law. Vary fair point , maybe they need to focus on the people who create the harmful content , still a massive task but gotta be easier than banning every child !? I was on tic tok earlier!! Yes I know sad but kills time lol , and am amazed at how many o f. S people and corn stars are on there , that's gotta be wrong ? I only went on there to watch fishing tips and some bloke who goes wild swimming!!.and somehow they pop up " I think we need to focus more on online safety. Social media and the Internet as a whole is a massive part of everyone's lives. I have a highschooler, she has been given and ipad to do all her school work on. The time of doing written work at school is slowly being fazed out. There should be a specific class they must take to educate them on it. | |||
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"Extreme in my view, too Nanny State. Would you allow kids to buy cigarettes? " Which has what to do with social media? Smoking is something which has no positive side effects whatsoever and has long term health consequences which requires a person to be of age to understand and consider these consequences prior to partaking. In the same way it would be incredibly irresponsible for a parent to enable their child to smoke. | |||
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"Extreme in my view, too Nanny State. Would you allow kids to buy cigarettes? Which has what to do with social media? Smoking is something which has no positive side effects whatsoever and has long term health consequences which requires a person to be of age to understand and consider these consequences prior to partaking. In the same way it would be incredibly irresponsible for a parent to enable their child to smoke. " So the “nanny state” doesn’t apply in the smoking instance? I thought people and parents could make their own choices? | |||
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"In all honesty.... Patents should parent more. You see kids handed a phone/tablet just to keep them quiet" m This isn’t about kids watching peppa pig on a iPad | |||
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"In all honesty.... Patents should parent more. You see kids handed a phone/tablet just to keep them quietm This isn’t about kids watching peppa pig on a iPad " I didn't say it was | |||
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"Yes I think it's a good thing that children are banned from Social Media. Part of me thinks I'm just being an old man... But another part of me thinks, fuck social media. The internet has become such a predatory and insidious entity. If it's not algorithms designed to keep you hooked; it's pushing an agenda, it's pushing a narrative with news tailored to suit whatever political ideals you have to further entrench you and to further divide us. And at this point, there's a good chance you're watching content uploaded from an AI bot account, using AI generated material... Commented on by other bot accounts to drive engagement! We have fumbled the internet so bad. Still useful for porn though 💪" | |||
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"The little dictator on my shoulder says bring back the workhouse for the naughty ones" Exactly 👍 | |||
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"Definitely a good thing Too buried in phone..." Exaxtly. My mate and I were talking the other day saying when we was very young no social media, we used to create our own fun, going for bike rides, building tree houses, played ganes, rollar skating and sitting down for family dinners no phones. Nowadays some kids can barely have a conversation without looking at their phones. Social media can be great when used safely and correctly but I watched a sextortion programme the other day and children commiting suicide because of cyber bullying or black*ail is just shockingly sad 
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" Yes some kids will get round this, but not all. You had a typo Yes all kids will get round this, not some." Not quite all, but the ones who don't will get left behind. Inevitable, then, it wont work! | |||
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"Does this mean there will be forced age checks for us adults to use the likes of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter etc" Yes there will be. We will have to prove who we are. That's why they want us to be on the ID system. Its way keeping us in control. They already try tells us how look after are children. There are age restrictions on social media . My child accounts was all connected to my phone. My child is in college and 18 now and studying all about social media. There lot we you shouldn't do until your 18 but we still did it. We not aloud to talk about on here. So i don't think it will work | |||
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"Its a good thing, children don't need access to toxic or dangerous things. They don't need their minds filled with unrealistic expectations and beauty standards. They don't need to be exposed to bullying at home when they can escape it after school. I'm grateful I was the generation of actually being a kid. Yes we had MSN and Bebo but it didn't control our lives like it does today." So children don't need access "to toxic or dangerous things" ? So let's ban left wing woke schools,woke teachers,our woke police forces our woke media like the BBC who influence children every day without teaching them there's an alternative? | |||
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"Ban it all the world be a better and safer place." Don't worry, black outs are planned within the next 12 months. Short bursts.. People will get a reminder of what its like to not have the internet for five minutes. They'll be forced to go outside and talk to real people again. | |||
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"The safety of children has nothing to do with this. This is a smoke screen to force digital id's. Which they have been trying to find a way to do since lockdowns. " Oh dear  | |||
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"I think it's time to let kids do kids stuff rather than having constant access to stuff they shouldn't , what's wrong with going back to not having access to everything 24/7" Society has changed! What happens if one child has access and another doesn't, the FOMO would be huge. Has the govt asked the teenagers what they want? Another over reach from this shambles | |||
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"Couldn't make it stick because adults know better so now they are going after the children. Control is all they are wanting nothing more or less." Its more like going after the adults through the children though isn't it? | |||
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"Ban it all the world be a better and safer place. Don't worry, black outs are planned within the next 12 months. Short bursts.. People will get a reminder of what its like to not have the internet for five minutes. They'll be forced to go outside and talk to real people again. " Or not bother with either form of interaction! | |||
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"It's a bad thing. Why would restricting social media from under16s suddenly make them able to deal with it when the locks come off? Answer...it won't. In most cases it will create bigger problems than what we already see. You don't ban young kids from swimming because of the risk of drowning, instead you create safe spaces for them to learn with proper instruction and trained lifeguards. That's what's needed. Education of teens and young children. Providers need to tighten up restrictions and make more checks. Put the responsibility on them and parents to police their children's access to online and social media...we certainly do and they know why. We tell them the risks, who could be out there, we make them internet savvy. I wouldn't allow young children on certain sites, and they don't take their phones upstairs with them. They are restricted to time limits on any device. It seems to be working. " Nah I think it’s a good thing same as the ban on porn without ID, these things need restriction at least whilst you introduce a safer environment. Sometimes actions needs to be taken NOW and I applaud it | |||
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