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"With the proposed public listing of space X, made me think about general share trading. The proposed price per share of space x, most average people wouldn't be able to buy. With the volatility around the world and increase in employment, is investment most appropriate way to plan for the future? What are people's experience of share trading? " The SNP 500 is always considered a safe investment, over last 20 years it's averages +10% annual return but in 23/24 it was like 25% and has a very low minimum buy in so is accessable to all. OR If you have bank, follow Nancy Pelosis trades ... shes clearly been insider trading for yearrrssss | |||
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" On principle I wouldn’t invest in a company owned and controlled by a massive knobhead like Twatface Musk, who bankrolls the far-right and tries his hardest to get them elected. No thanks. " | |||
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"Fuck principle when it comes to profit. Principle isn't going to pay the bills when this shite bag government has taken all your money off you." Ain’t that a lovely outlook. Rubbish. There are plenty of other companies to invest in to make money. | |||
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"Regular money in the S&P 500 over a long period of time is a good investment." FTSE All world index is better, with 20% in defensive bonds. I'm getting 12% per year, much more in the last 3 years. S&P500 is a bit riskier over short or medium term. | |||
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"Let the SpaceX IPO settle first, then we will gauge the market’s true reaction—give it 15 days once it is added to the Nasdaq. Too much liquidity is sitting on the sidelines. When the insider and pre-IPO lockup expires, a wave of new shares will flood the market and pressure the price—the real test is whether indexing giants like Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street buy enough to absorb the shock." Blackrock has stated it will buy $5bn , Vanguard will also have to include it but its weighting in funds like VLS80 will only be around 0.2% | |||
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"Let the SpaceX IPO settle first, then we will gauge the market’s true reaction—give it 15 days once it is added to the Nasdaq. Too much liquidity is sitting on the sidelines. When the insider and pre-IPO lockup expires, a wave of new shares will flood the market and pressure the price—the real test is whether indexing giants like Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street buy enough to absorb the shock. Blackrock has stated it will buy $5bn , Vanguard will also have to include it but its weighting in funds like VLS80 will only be around 0.2%" $70 billion+ in retail investor orders has already flooded in for SpaceX’s historic IPO — dramatically overtaking institutional demand and sitting heavily in the order book ahead of its NYSE/Nasdaq debut. This level of grassroots retail participation is unprecedented for an offering of this magnitude. | |||
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"I'd rather put anything extra into my pension. Owing to tax relief, this gets an immediate double digit return and the bods at Royal London have been getting me 11% increases most years. In fairness, I did select for them to invest in Green and other ethical funds. | |||
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"I've taken a gamble on it. Planning on getting out early next week, then buy back in once/if it's dropped in a few months It's definitely a gamble, but sometimes you've got to be in it to win it!" I'll be watching but not participating. Probably see record breaking volume numbers today | |||
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"I've taken a gamble on it. Planning on getting out early next week, then buy back in once/if it's dropped in a few months It's definitely a gamble, but sometimes you've got to be in it to win it!" Markets have not yet opened and one of my friend already got hold of 100 share through HL, seems Dark pool trading | |||
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"I will buy the dip down the line but watching today to see what happens Makes sense - let’s see how far this rocket can fly before August. | |||
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"With the proposed public listing of space X, made me think about general share trading. The proposed price per share of space x, most average people wouldn't be able to buy. With the volatility around the world and increase in employment, is investment most appropriate way to plan for the future? What are people's experience of share trading? The SNP 500 is always considered a safe investment, over last 20 years it's averages +10% annual return but in 23/24 it was like 25% and has a very low minimum buy in so is accessable to all. OR If you have bank, follow Nancy Pelosis trades ... shes clearly been insider trading for yearrrssss " Invest in the vanguard global fund and it works well for me | |||
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"Fuck principle when it comes to profit. Principle isn't going to pay the bills when this shite bag government has taken all your money off you." I'm amazed at some people's utter inability to notice what is going on around them. Money doesn't grow on trees, there is only one way people get massively rich and that is by effectively taxing everyone else. Every time you buy stuff you are being taxed - twice. One lot of tax goes to the government where it is spread ever thinner by a government struggling to deal with an increasingly aging population and an Edison of living standards caused by the second tax. For reference, 40% of the NHS budget goes on people over 65, over 50% of the welfare budget is pensions and pensioner benefits take over 11% of all public spending. The tax you complain about paying (barely) covers all the services you need and looks after our elderly population - from your whining I guess you don't think this should be the case? The second tax is called profit because we all understand that business needs to make profit and that doing so is what has allowed us humans to invest and grow. The problem is this system only works to go a certain point. Beyond this it isn't simply profit anymore, it's wealth transfer on a massive scale and this causes massive social disruption. When companies (and those who own them) become richer than entire nation states, they become huge funnels, taxing billions and sending all that wealth flowing into the pockets of a few people. We first saw this with the British East India company and the government of the day stepped in realising the danger of a company more powerful, and with a bigger army, than the state, not to mention guilty of gross crimes. When you invest in companies that are asset stripping the globe, you become a small part in that huge wealth funnel. Justifying it by complaining about taxes that are there to support society while being a part of what is destroying it would be laughable if it wasn't so fucking tragic. P | |||
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"Valuation of it seems a little crazy but there is nothing like it, they are a decade ahead of any competitor and the plans for earth to orbit payload over the next 5 years are mad. If recent history has taught us anything it should be not to bet against Elon. I’m not a fan of him but he is a genius. I’m in " Check all the pick and shovels of space economy - AI terrestrial vs AI in space - are two very different beast to manage | |||
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"Valuation of it seems a little crazy but there is nothing like it, they are a decade ahead of any competitor and the plans for earth to orbit payload over the next 5 years are mad. If recent history has taught us anything it should be not to bet against Elon. I’m not a fan of him but he is a genius. I’m in Check all the pick and shovels of space economy - AI terrestrial vs AI in space - are two very different beast to manage " True and no one knows which way it will go. It is for sure a gamble | |||
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"Let the SpaceX IPO settle first, then we will gauge the market’s true reaction—give it 15 days once it is added to the Nasdaq. Too much liquidity is sitting on the sidelines. When the insider and pre-IPO lockup expires, a wave of new shares will flood the market and pressure the price—the real test is whether indexing giants like Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street buy enough to absorb the shock. Blackrock has stated it will buy $5bn , Vanguard will also have to include it but its weighting in funds like VLS80 will only be around 0.2% $70 billion+ in retail investor orders has already flooded in for SpaceX’s historic IPO — dramatically overtaking institutional demand and sitting heavily in the order book ahead of its NYSE/Nasdaq debut. This level of grassroots retail participation is unprecedented for an offering of this magnitude." Yes, it's like a bitcoin thing, most people haven't got a clue what they are doing but feel like they are missing out if they don't have a gamble. i'm because of the history of companies like Nvidia, they think they need to be in at the beginning, but clearly don't know what the beginning is... | |||
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"It reminds me very much of when Facebook went public. Initial ipo was wild then I think after a month it tanked before it got to the heights it is currently sat at after many many years. Deliveroo is another ipo that went wild even though it had not yet made any profit. I'm not even sure if it is yet to make profit 😅😅. It's all a risk. Only thing certain in life is death& & taxes 🤣 " Amazon sacrificed profits for a long time to invent the cloud & create one of the biggest & best companies in the world. | |||
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"I'm waiting at $69.42" $69.42...??? Are you buying the Temu space x IPO🤣🤣🤣😭😭 | |||
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"Whats better is how Musk shifted xAIs $20 Billion debt by selling xAI and X to Space X then announced going public raising over $100 Billion in direct orders and using $20 to squash the debt ... When you're that rich the shell games you can play is insane ..." Exactly. | |||
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"I'm waiting at $69.42 $69.42...??? Are you buying the Temu space x IPO🤣🤣🤣😭😭 " 🤣🤣 | |||
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"Buy XRP & XLM crypto 😉" Buy TAO - subnet and economy of future - develop, sell AI solutions and get paid in TAO. BTW I am HODL XRP @ 0.30 cents. | |||
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"Buy XRP & XLM crypto 😉 Buy TAO - subnet and economy of future - develop, sell AI solutions and get paid in TAO. BTW I am HODL XRP @ 0.30 cents. " Nice! Also Plume, Wormhole | |||
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"I'm waiting at $69.42" I used to bid in increments or logs of 69/420. It's the only degen way. Feels good man | |||
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"With the proposed public listing of space X, made me think about general share trading. The proposed price per share of space x, most average people wouldn't be able to buy. With the volatility around the world and increase in employment, is investment most appropriate way to plan for the future? What are people's experience of share trading? " My main profitable investments over past 15 years are: BAE systems Chevron ExxonMobil Rolls Royce All Dividends are re-invested for future growth. As long as you are comfortable investing in weapons manufacturers there are a number of very profitable industries for investment right now | |||
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"The biggest issue is that 90% of the valuation is based on the AI element of the company… and that’s a tech bubble just waiting to burst! " With macro hard and macro harder and colossus- I am more betting on AI part than Space part - even he registered this company as IT firm not a space expedition one. | |||
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"I'm waiting at $69.42 I used to bid in increments or logs of 69/420. It's the only degen way. Feels good man" Degen unite! | |||
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"How much is a share OP? I’ve got about £3 in the bank til payday so anymore than that and I’m out…. Thinking about it though I think I would rather just bin the £3 than invest give money to twat-face so I’m out " It’s now about $170 per share | |||
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"IMO it's a con. No company is worth what is being asked. In the next 10 years the Chinese will do it quicker faster and cheaper just like what has happened to Tesla. This is not the once in lifetime crap that's being promoted. I reckon the stock will be probably worth a fraction of the opening price." Disagree. China will struggle to copy precision work in the same way they copy everything else. (They do in other industries) The amount of good ideas within Space X is hard to quantify and the share price reflects it. | |||
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"BTC to 42,699 slight pamp then 16,942 moon pamp. I don't think people understand the value of moon dust never mind the amount of rare "earth" metals on flosting rocks. We will see a race for a moon base on a crater on the south pole of the moon and then beyond. " There'll be Solar powered data centres floating around up there soon | |||
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"BTC to 42,699 slight pamp then 16,942 moon pamp. I don't think people understand the value of moon dust never mind the amount of rare "earth" metals on flosting rocks. We will see a race for a moon base on a crater on the south pole of the moon and then beyond. There'll be Solar powered data centres floating around up there soon" There already is *laughs in supervillain* | |||
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"BP and Shell maybe BAE or Rolls Royce" Tried and tested pharmaceutical, energy, and insurance companies seem to be reliable too. Or that's what I'm gathering from reading about investing, I've not sunk money yet. | |||
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"BTC to 42,699 slight pamp then 16,942 moon pamp. I don't think people understand the value of moon dust never mind the amount of rare "earth" metals on flosting rocks. We will see a race for a moon base on a crater on the south pole of the moon and then beyond. " I understand the value, but I question Elon ad the guy to do it. | |||
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"BTC to 42,699 slight pamp then 16,942 moon pamp. I don't think people understand the value of moon dust never mind the amount of rare "earth" metals on flosting rocks. We will see a race for a moon base on a crater on the south pole of the moon and then beyond. I understand the value, but I question Elon ad the guy to do it." He's not doing it, he does very little he just fronts the companies. Nearly applied for a job with them the other month. | |||
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"IMO it's a con. No company is worth what is being asked. In the next 10 years the Chinese will do it quicker faster and cheaper just like what has happened to Tesla. This is not the once in lifetime crap that's being promoted. I reckon the stock will be probably worth a fraction of the opening price. Disagree. China will struggle to copy precision work in the same way they copy everything else. (They do in other industries) The amount of good ideas within Space X is hard to quantify and the share price reflects it. " China has a manned space program of their own, why do they need to copy space x? There are hundreds of space based companies in china currently. Only one that I know of has actually made it to orbit so far, but my point was there are loads of competitors. And who gave space x a monopoly on good ideas? The point is competition is coming and given the structure of the way you can't get rid of musk, this is not a company as much as a fiefdom. It's a con. But feel free to buy what you like. | |||
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"Im boring. Diversify. Don't put money in stuff you don't understand. Be wary of anything who's only value will be a story that happens in the future. " Future stories are good. That's how you raise money through corporate bonds. Often no one has the skills or ideas to do what you're suggesting or the task was so big or dangerous no one thought it was possible. Raising the money to do projects lasting years with massive risks is a skill in itself. This is how infrastructure often works it's a good 5-10 year investment and you usually get a good coupon paid quarterly. It's not as exciting as space travel but everyone needs roads, bridges, telecoms , electric, water , transport. It might seem like everyone has them, but they don't. And even when they have them sometimes they need something different people are already investing now alternatives to the strait of Hormuz, new types of energy replacing diesel and towerless mobile phones. Without future stories, nothing would happen. | |||
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"i have investments and use trading 212 as it has simple to use interface and often the best rate of return if your looking at isa for example. is spaceX a good investment. for me no. fit and paying shareholders with dividends this will generate a second income." And which companies are the ones providing space x goods and services. Some valid points made btw. | |||
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