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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x" I punched someone for stealing from the monopoly bank. | |||
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"I have mentioned this before. I know of a woman whose husband had advanced dementia, was bed bound, unable to speak or feed himself and didn't know who she was. She cared for him and on the days he had respite care she had a guy visit. I couldn't find it in myself bit criticise her" Dementia is cruel. I wouldn't consider this to be cheating though. | |||
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"If there is no connection purely just sex it is still bad but I get why people do it , if there are feelings just have to bite the bullet a leave " I don't think it's about the feelings of the person cheating. It's about the feelings of the person being cheated on. | |||
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"If there is no connection purely just sex it is still bad but I get why people do it , if there are feelings just have to bite the bullet a leave " I don't think it's as simple as that. Got to take into account lifestyle, money, family and what about if you both still get on in general but there's no sex - I want it all but I have it all and a BF too 😈 | |||
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"If there is no connection purely just sex it is still bad but I get why people do it , if there are feelings just have to bite the bullet a leave I don't think it's as simple as that. Got to take into account lifestyle, money, family and what about if you both still get on in general but there's no sex - I want it all but I have it all and a BF too 😈 " 100 percent get that tbh I've been in a relationship were the other person was sensually retarded Light off all the time didn't want for play or toys, just missionary | |||
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"Cheating is an extremely cruel thing to inflict on someone. They will be left with trust issues that they will carry forward into future relationships and it will forever taint their view of romance and life going forward. Not by choice, because if they could forget they bloody would. You just have to read comments on Forum posts on here to witness that. But you know, so long as rocks were gotten off, fuck em. Somebody giving you their heart and trust should be treated as what it is. A gift. You’re bloody lucky to get that once in your life so don’t piss it up the wall on someone who just wants a bit of excitement in their life. Want a thrill? A rush? Sparkle in your eyes? Try Skydiving instead! " This, breaking someone else for a quick ego boost isn't nice. They always find out, they know when things slip. Mrs | |||
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"Yep, its wrong even if they don't find out. You're betraying their trust & even if you think there's a reason for you to do it, it could destroy them. " 100% agree with this. | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x" It's not called cheating because no one gets hurt. It's called cheating because those who entered into relationships and promised fidelity have decided to devalue their partner by concealing their own actions and going against their relationship. The reason it's concealed is because the cheater knows they are doing wrong. They have not only lied to their partner they have gone against or their own values - or maybe they haven't - maybe they were lying, cheating , self centred, me me me twats from the start but they just didn't know it. | |||
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"There's no black or white answer to this, especially asking on a Swinging site If no one finds out, then yes, no one will get hurt but people cheat for many different reasons I've cheated in every relationship I've ever been in, this marriage I'm in of 25yrs was the result of me cheating and the same marriage I'd been faithful to him for 20yrs.... Until he suggested swinging and now I've been in a relationship with someone else for the past 16mths as well as my husband and he's married and his wife doesn't know what he's doing - he has his reasons for doing what he's doing " Reasons don't stop it from being cheating. I'm not moralising , I don't have any hangs up about other people's sex lives but as the Q is about cheating ..... he's still cheating. What ever his excuses - his decision of course. | |||
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"Yes cheating is hurtful, painful and all the other adjectives. But humans are fallible and weak. For all those who jump on the judgemental bandwagon and portray themselves as pure and honest…if the opportunity arose in the right situation with the right person…I wonder how many would actually stick to their morals. " You mean 'you' are fallible and weak. I accept that. Most people are principled. People with different views to yours are not jumping on a 'moral' bandwagon. They are just stating their views as asked. Nor are they trying to present themselves as pure or honest. There is no keep trying to label them. If the opportunity arose , even with the 'right' person then the principled wouldn't even consider it .... beyond a few seconds. To behave against your own values is to cheat on yourself and to me that is what folk are missing. It's not if your partner knows. It's if YOU know and if you know and don't care , why stay in a lie of a relationship? ( not you - anyone ) | |||
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"Yes cheating is hurtful, painful and all the other adjectives. But humans are fallible and weak. For all those who jump on the judgemental bandwagon and portray themselves as pure and honest…if the opportunity arose in the right situation with the right person…I wonder how many would actually stick to their morals. You mean 'you' are fallible and weak. I accept that. Most people are principled. People with different views to yours are not jumping on a 'moral' bandwagon. They are just stating their views as asked. Nor are they trying to present themselves as pure or honest. There is no keep trying to label them. If the opportunity arose , even with the 'right' person then the principled wouldn't even consider it .... beyond a few seconds. To behave against your own values is to cheat on yourself and to me that is what folk are missing. It's not if your partner knows. It's if YOU know and if you know and don't care , why stay in a lie of a relationship? ( not you - anyone ) " Haha you know nothing about ‘me’ but judge away. If the majority of people were principled there wouldn’t be so many affairs etc. I do believe humans are fallible…I’m not saying everyone but in my opinion as a species ‘we’ are 🤷🏻♂️ | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x" It’d hurt my perception of the cheater  | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater "Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ? | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?"Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it "Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ? | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?"Can we just do the butties ? | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?"Shagadelic, baby! | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?"What flavour sandwiches we talking ? I know shut up sit back down over there . | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge." Having someone land between your legs (other than your partner) is not a mistake though. It’s a choice. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge." Is it!? | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Having someone land between your legs (other than your partner) is not a mistake though. It’s a choice." I agree. It's a series of choices from conversation, to meeting, to being intimate. A person can still regret these choices and acknowledge they made mistakes. It's better to break up and move on. Some people don't want to. They want to be in a relationship and cheat. Things are further complicated by living arrangements, finance, family/child commitments, lifestyle etc. | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?
Can we just do the butties ?"Well she's going to be so disappointed she might leave the crusts on. Mightn't I granny. Yes me we might! | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?"What are you doing with the crusts? Feeding them to the ducks or making croutons for my soup? | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ? What flavour sandwiches we talking ? I know shut up sit back down over there ."For you Chilly ...... name your filling! Brown bread only tho .... | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ?
What are you doing with the crusts? Feeding them to the ducks or making croutons for my soup?"Definitely the latter | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?" It is. The appearance of many people on social media and even in politics, is morally corrupt. Perhaps it's just an act for views, attention, gain popularity, make money etc. But this behaviour is encouraged and they influence others to do the same. I still believe the majority of us are inherently good and strive to do good. | |||
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"Is it bad if no one is hurt… x It’d hurt my perception of the cheater
Hmmmmmm what if she was 26 size 12 , big boobs, round butt and very willing ?
Still view her as a cheater, honestly couldn’t be bothered with it
Okay, what if it was a desperate older woman who promised to make you butties with the crusts off ? What flavour sandwiches we talking ? I know shut up sit back down over there .
For you Chilly ...... name your filling! Brown bread only tho ...."Can I have cheese and beetroot please. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?" . I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. " You've mentioned "lots of men" and "maybe some ladies". I don't think that's accurate. It could be lots of men and women. Or some men and some women. As for the Manosphere documentary, that was an absolute joke. Louis met people on the extreme end of this "movement", he even said it himself. Is it a movement? I have no idea. Is it an ideology? I'm not too sure. The people in that documentary are playing a role to make money. Nothing new there. They are also encouraging others to behave the same way. Again, nothing new there. Social media is a warped reality but it is encouraging people to think and behave in warped ways. | |||
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" I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. " I agree with this part. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!? It is. The appearance of many people on social media and even in politics, is morally corrupt. Perhaps it's just an act for views, attention, gain popularity, make money etc. But this behaviour is encouraged and they influence others to do the same. I still believe the majority of us are inherently good and strive to do good." We all have morals personally I think you either have good strong morals based on what you believe to be right or you don't. If it's the former it's pretty easy to stick by them if they're a bit wishy washy and you're easily influenced it's not. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!? It is. The appearance of many people on social media and even in politics, is morally corrupt. Perhaps it's just an act for views, attention, gain popularity, make money etc. But this behaviour is encouraged and they influence others to do the same. I still believe the majority of us are inherently good and strive to do good. We all have morals personally I think you either have good strong morals based on what you believe to be right or you don't. If it's the former it's pretty easy to stick by them if they're a bit wishy washy and you're easily influenced it's not. " I respect your opinion. I think it's normal to be tempted. Acting on it is a different matter. As for morals, they are tested in times of hardship. Trial by fire, if you will. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!? It is. The appearance of many people on social media and even in politics, is morally corrupt. Perhaps it's just an act for views, attention, gain popularity, make money etc. But this behaviour is encouraged and they influence others to do the same. I still believe the majority of us are inherently good and strive to do good. We all have morals personally I think you either have good strong morals based on what you believe to be right or you don't. If it's the former it's pretty easy to stick by them if they're a bit wishy washy and you're easily influenced it's not. I respect your opinion. I think it's normal to be tempted. Acting on it is a different matter. As for morals, they are tested in times of hardship. Trial by fire, if you will." Yep, I've lived a my life, I haven't always resisted temptation. | |||
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"Did you just say ... Ha Ha ? 1. I didn't say anything about you. 2. I gave my views on cheating not you. 3. Human beings can be fallible but that is different to what you said in the previous post when you were supporting cheating. ( for reasons best known to yourself ) " “You mean 'you' are fallible and weak. I accept that”…….ok 👍🏻 | |||
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"Did you just say ... Ha Ha ? 1. I didn't say anything about you. 2. I gave my views on cheating not you. 3. Human beings can be fallible but that is different to what you said in the previous post when you were supporting cheating. ( for reasons best known to yourself ) " Also I wasn’t supporting cheating. You clearly didn’t read or comprehend what I said. Easy mistake to make though as humans are fallable. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. You've mentioned "lots of men" and "maybe some ladies". I don't think that's accurate. It could be lots of men and women. Or some men and some women. As for the Manosphere documentary, that was an absolute joke. Louis met people on the extreme end of this "movement", he even said it himself. Is it a movement? I have no idea. Is it an ideology? I'm not too sure. The people in that documentary are playing a role to make money. Nothing new there. They are also encouraging others to behave the same way. Again, nothing new there. Social media is a warped reality but it is encouraging people to think and behave in warped ways." OK to balance it out Have a search on all the cheating threads, who starts them. Who finds cheats a turn on. I mention some ladies, because I don't speak to them on here really as I'm not looking for them & it's rare they start threads about how they're cheating or get off on meeting those who are. My point about the Manosphere was due to you mentioning the influences of social media and it's these type of men who are trying to encourage/influence men how to behave and how to treat women.They encourage this sort of behaviour ie having your cake and eating it. We are all responsible for our own actions as people and the decisions we take. I try to go by, don't do to others things you wouldn't like yourself. | |||
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"A very interesting question. My answer is not always. Nothing is ever black and white and I think there are very rare instances where it's ok. " Perhaps not ok but not black and white as many people choose to insist. I could expand a great deal but no point. I've accepted being a lower life form and try to forget my life experience.  | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. " Yep. I do also think it's way easier to hold other people to higher moral standards than you hold yourself to | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. You've mentioned "lots of men" and "maybe some ladies". I don't think that's accurate. It could be lots of men and women. Or some men and some women. As for the Manosphere documentary, that was an absolute joke. Louis met people on the extreme end of this "movement", he even said it himself. Is it a movement? I have no idea. Is it an ideology? I'm not too sure. The people in that documentary are playing a role to make money. Nothing new there. They are also encouraging others to behave the same way. Again, nothing new there. Social media is a warped reality but it is encouraging people to think and behave in warped ways. OK to balance it out Have a search on all the cheating threads, who starts them. Who finds cheats a turn on. I mention some ladies, because I don't speak to them on here really as I'm not looking for them & it's rare they start threads about how they're cheating or get off on meeting those who are. My point about the Manosphere was due to you mentioning the influences of social media and it's these type of men who are trying to encourage/influence men how to behave and how to treat women.They encourage this sort of behaviour ie having your cake and eating it. We are all responsible for our own actions as people and the decisions we take. I try to go by, don't do to others things you wouldn't like yourself. " I see your point. I think the threads as an example is limited. There are women who get off on cheating too, they probably don't post it. And the narrative around men and women cheating is different. Men are regarded as evil and scum. Not all women are when they cheat. There are always excuses: she wasn't satisfied at home, she wasn't loved properly, it was true love, doesn't she deserve to be happy etc. Also, I've come across plenty of women's profiles who are cheating or like men who cheat. I think our experiences are different because of who we are searching for or exposed to. I'm more likely to view a woman's profile, you are more likely to view a man's profile. Regarding the Manosphere, I see your point. They are not the only ones. There are women who encourage each other to cheat and call it freedom, the best of both worlds, having your cake and eating it too. My point is, it's not just men or the Manosphere. It's men and women. I agree with your final point. I think we need each other to make the world a better place. 👍🏾☺️ | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. You've mentioned "lots of men" and "maybe some ladies". I don't think that's accurate. It could be lots of men and women. Or some men and some women. As for the Manosphere documentary, that was an absolute joke. Louis met people on the extreme end of this "movement", he even said it himself. Is it a movement? I have no idea. Is it an ideology? I'm not too sure. The people in that documentary are playing a role to make money. Nothing new there. They are also encouraging others to behave the same way. Again, nothing new there. Social media is a warped reality but it is encouraging people to think and behave in warped ways. OK to balance it out Have a search on all the cheating threads, who starts them. Who finds cheats a turn on. I mention some ladies, because I don't speak to them on here really as I'm not looking for them & it's rare they start threads about how they're cheating or get off on meeting those who are. My point about the Manosphere was due to you mentioning the influences of social media and it's these type of men who are trying to encourage/influence men how to behave and how to treat women.They encourage this sort of behaviour ie having your cake and eating it. We are all responsible for our own actions as people and the decisions we take. I try to go by, don't do to others things you wouldn't like yourself. I see your point. I think the threads as an example is limited. There are women who get off on cheating too, they probably don't post it. And the narrative around men and women cheating is different. Men are regarded as evil and scum. Not all women are when they cheat. There are always excuses: she wasn't satisfied at home, she wasn't loved properly, it was true love, doesn't she deserve to be happy etc. Also, I've come across plenty of women's profiles who are cheating or like men who cheat. I think our experiences are different because of who we are searching for or exposed to. I'm more likely to view a woman's profile, you are more likely to view a man's profile. Regarding the Manosphere, I see your point. They are not the only ones. There are women who encourage each other to cheat and call it freedom, the best of both worlds, having your cake and eating it too. My point is, it's not just men or the Manosphere. It's men and women. I agree with your final point. I think we need each other to make the world a better place. 👍🏾☺️" Totally agree and I appreciate I should have worded it better, as some men and some women want their cake and eat it nowadays. I think it is definitely due to who we meet /look for on here, that we see different things though. I'd find anyone bragging about Cheating rank, whoever they were, man, woman or couple. I'm not really exposed to women who egg each other on to do it either, thankfully. | |||
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"Yes, it's bad and people will get hurt eventually. However, we are human beings and make mistakes, we do get tempted. In this day and age there is an abundance of temptation. We also have some aspects of social media, entertainment and ideologies that encourage cheating. They frame it as being the best of both worlds. Sooner or later, damage is done. Having morals these days is a challenge. Is it!?. I don't think it is either Mrs N. There's lots of men out there who seem to say it's ok to have open relationships, as long as its just them having the opportunity. As seen in the Manosphere documentary. (Maybe some ladies too, before anyone jumps on me). I think its just in some people to cheat and they'll do it no matter how good they have it. Some won't cheat, no matter how tough things get. You've mentioned "lots of men" and "maybe some ladies". I don't think that's accurate. It could be lots of men and women. Or some men and some women. As for the Manosphere documentary, that was an absolute joke. Louis met people on the extreme end of this "movement", he even said it himself. Is it a movement? I have no idea. Is it an ideology? I'm not too sure. The people in that documentary are playing a role to make money. Nothing new there. They are also encouraging others to behave the same way. Again, nothing new there. Social media is a warped reality but it is encouraging people to think and behave in warped ways. OK to balance it out Have a search on all the cheating threads, who starts them. Who finds cheats a turn on. I mention some ladies, because I don't speak to them on here really as I'm not looking for them & it's rare they start threads about how they're cheating or get off on meeting those who are. My point about the Manosphere was due to you mentioning the influences of social media and it's these type of men who are trying to encourage/influence men how to behave and how to treat women.They encourage this sort of behaviour ie having your cake and eating it. We are all responsible for our own actions as people and the decisions we take. I try to go by, don't do to others things you wouldn't like yourself. I see your point. I think the threads as an example is limited. There are women who get off on cheating too, they probably don't post it. And the narrative around men and women cheating is different. Men are regarded as evil and scum. Not all women are when they cheat. There are always excuses: she wasn't satisfied at home, she wasn't loved properly, it was true love, doesn't she deserve to be happy etc. Also, I've come across plenty of women's profiles who are cheating or like men who cheat. I think our experiences are different because of who we are searching for or exposed to. I'm more likely to view a woman's profile, you are more likely to view a man's profile. Regarding the Manosphere, I see your point. They are not the only ones. There are women who encourage each other to cheat and call it freedom, the best of both worlds, having your cake and eating it too. My point is, it's not just men or the Manosphere. It's men and women. I agree with your final point. I think we need each other to make the world a better place. 👍🏾☺️ Totally agree and I appreciate I should have worded it better, as some men and some women want their cake and eat it nowadays. I think it is definitely due to who we meet /look for on here, that we see different things though. I'd find anyone bragging about Cheating rank, whoever they were, man, woman or couple. I'm not really exposed to women who egg each other on to do it either, thankfully. " I like that we can have a mature conversation without it descending into insults or worse. Same, about the cheating. Our experiences and what we are exposed to shape our perspectives. Have a good day 👍🏾☺️ | |||
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"Someone always gets hurt. And there are no reasons for cheating...just excuses." Agreed  | |||
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"Cheating is an extremely cruel thing to inflict on someone. They will be left with trust issues that they will carry forward into future relationships and it will forever taint their view of romance and life going forward. Not by choice, because if they could forget they bloody would. You just have to read comments on Forum posts on here to witness that. But you know, so long as rocks were gotten off, fuck em. Somebody giving you their heart and trust should be treated as what it is. A gift. You’re bloody lucky to get that once in your life so don’t piss it up the wall on someone who just wants a bit of excitement in their life. Want a thrill? A rush? Sparkle in your eyes? Try Skydiving instead! This, breaking someone else for a quick ego boost isn't nice. They always find out, they know when things slip. Mrs " The signs are always there, secretive where they’ve been, always on the defensive, too tired, mood changes, show no intimacy at home because they’ve already had it on the way home etc etc the list goes on even when been caught  | |||
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"Always. The damage done by cheating is devastating on every level, and it’s almost never worth it to both of you. If you’ve ever been cheated on, you’d never consider it an option. If you’ve got no other option (such as talking about doing things ethically) then it would be kinder to end the primary relationship. Esther Perel’s ‘The State of Affairs’ is an excellent read on this subject, if anyone in this thread is interested in the psychology of sex. " | |||
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"Its only cheating if the other person doesnt know. I dont know your circumstances and i def dont have the right to judge your actions. Have a talk with your partner and maybe re-evaluate your relationship and expectations around behaviours and needs. There's easier ways to get laid than bieng on here, maybe go down that route?" But when that communication thing gets knocked back continually apart from occasional reasons why it's normal and to be expected with an added diligent sprinkling of gaslighting about our intimacy before marriage , being the continual idiot in the room erodes you self worth and respect. She has also always avoided responsibilitity, cannot handle critism and never makes mistakes (keeps a list of all of mine though close by though) the divorce option causes too many issues if anyone was going to ask..you'd wish you hadn't though. I have a second appointment with my GP tomorrow to follow up the first in which I was persuaded by her to record my home life as being subjected to Domestic Abuse. Probably more than enough detail for one post on here.And yes I do frequently wonder how the fuck I ended up where I am not remotely recognising the person I married, beingvl my first girlfriend probably didn't help,still waiting for my first relationship though...Yup totally trapped so I am kinda truly fucked in a way!!(and fucked up) but not in a "FAB" sort of way. on the positive side at my age my todger works as well as when I was a teenager, having had so little use over the years it's hardly surprising.I would have agreed with all those that look down on people that "cheat" but it has become unhealthy to read these threads that relate to the matter,but do occasionally torture myself.Going to fire up my Hotlist now and look at my favorite ladies bums on FAB.Well you can only work with what you've got as they say  | |||
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