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"Would it really be so bad for him to take it? I can see both sides really. He should probably ask if his benefits will be cut if he doesn't take it. " I can see both sides too - and I think he can. He is a bit more fucked off than me though - after all, it will be him that's dressed in red next week taking shit off all and sundry | |||
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"They can't stop your benefit unless you tell them about the job offer " I'm pretty sure the employer would inform theJobCentre that an offer was made. | |||
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"Yeah they will stop his benefits. It sucks not doing what he wants I'm sure but it's better than nothing surely? Plus I've always found its easier to get another job when you have one. No one seems to want to take on the unemployed x" Having 'Parking Parasite' on his CV could be a bit of a millstone though | |||
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"I cannot understand why anyone would turn down an opportunity to gain a little bit of self respect. When I graduated as a qualified teacher I couldn't get a teaching job. Did I sit on my backside complaining? No. I did any job I could....and yes, it included cleaning toilets, which in my opinion is far worse that being a traffic warden....but at least I was earning my own money and not being supported by the tax payer. Yes we would all like wait for our dream job to come along but in my experience you have to make that happen and that normally means you have to start by doing something you don't like. That is life." I'll swap you your mop n bucket for my red jumper and best pen then, cos I would sooner clean toilets than be a traffic warden | |||
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"Take the job, he can always chat up the totty and give them his number instead of a ticket " | |||
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"Would it really be so bad for him to take it? I can see both sides really. He should probably ask if his benefits will be cut if he doesn't take it. I can see both sides too - and I think he can. He is a bit more fucked off than me though - after all, it will be him that's dressed in red next week taking shit off all and sundry " Dressed in red? You said traffic warden, not santa claus! I reckon you should find out where he'll be working and shout supportive comments at him across the street. | |||
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"I reckon you should find out where he'll be working and shout supportive comments at him across the street. " Yeah like "Book Em Danno" | |||
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" The job he feels he is being forced into is that of a 'traffic warden' which is not a job for everyone and takes some bottle I would dare say." LOL Jobcentre did just the same to me, in 2007. Fortunately, my start date as a traffic warden was about a month in the future, and I was able to find a temporary job in my own industry, before I started. | |||
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"Right, before I start, I know this will be one that divides opinion, but does anyone know about turning down jobs if you are on benefits - and moreover what effect doing so would have on receiving benefits ? A friend is being levered to take a job that he does not want by his job centre contact. He told her that he did not want to attend the interview as he was not interested in the job. She said he 'had to' attend and look like he was interested. He attended the interview under duress and said the employer seemed 'desperate' to fill the position(s). An offer pack has fallen through his door today to start on Wednesday next week. If he refuses the job - how will that his ability to claim benefits until such a time that he can secure a role in the field he was made redundant from (or similar) just 2 months ago ? Is it the right way forward to be forcing people into roles that they neither want nor care about just to fill gaps / make the figures add up when all that will happen is that the employer will end up with hugs staff turnover and discontent ? The job he feels he is being forced into is that of a 'traffic warden' which is not a job for everyone and takes some bottle I would dare say." Of course the little darling shouldn't be pressured into taking a job he doesn't want rather than take benefits After all the uniform might not suit him or he might have to work out in all weathers | |||
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"Take the job - the training will be excellent for any customer facing role that comes up in the future. And let's face it - if you can do that job it shows any potential employer that you can handle anything." | |||
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"Dear God, how times have changed Years ago it would be a case of 'Waw, great I've been offered a job' These days the first thing that springs to peoples minds is 'will I lose my benefits' " Well said. Those that do work are fed up of supporting the feckless who can't be bothered to get off their lazy arses as it might ruin the amount of the time they have in the day to complain that the world owes them! | |||
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"Bussy - I can see why he's not happy - doing a job you're not interested in will be frustrating. But I don't view it as being 'forced into work' - he can refuse the job of course - but then it's only fair that he can no longer claim benefits. At the end of the day work is work. Benefits are there to help - not provide for - when there's no work to be had. Not when there's no work people specifically want to do. Otherwise i'd be claiming til there was a vacancy as Holly Willabooby's VPL smoother-outer and underwear adjuster! " Id fight u for that job obi lol xx | |||
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"The way it works is he has to give a valid reason why he cant take the job, if he can give them a genuine reason then good on him. " Good on him for giving a genuine reason NOT to take the job?? Yet again I'll say Dear God | |||
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"In Bham ALL traffic wardens have a set wage.I find it hard to believe they get commision. Never heard of that anywhere. Proof please." There are targets. Comission might not happen in Brum but something like that happens in London. You have to have targets or you'd have people sitting in the cafe all day! | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over" Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! " i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best | |||
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"They do get a set wage. Just looked at the websites.Wish people wouldn't make up false arguments. " Try accepting one of the jobs, rather than just believing what others write on a comp, real life IS much different when you have to live it! | |||
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"In Bham ALL traffic wardens have a set wage.I find it hard to believe they get commision. Never heard of that anywhere. Proof please. There are targets. Comission might not happen in Brum but something like that happens in London. You have to have targets or you'd have people sitting in the cafe all day!" Poster is from Alloa and n9 mention on their jobsite about commission.Dunno about London. Where can I read this please? | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! " I think if you look at conditions of entitlement you'll find there are a great many of them. Yes, looking for work is a condition for jobseekers the clue is in the title of the benefit !!!! EG seeking work I've worked since the day after I left school, and STILL don't expect to be kept by anyone else. I prefer my taxes to go to hospitals, schools, people who aren't ABLE to work. | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best" Its also NOT what I said! I don't WANT time off, unemployment is not a bloody holiday, I've worked all my life and I'm ENTITLED to expect a level of care from the society me and my family have been PAYING into all these years! | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best Its also NOT what I said! I don't WANT time off, unemployment is not a bloody holiday, I've worked all my life and I'm ENTITLED to expect a level of care from the society me and my family have been PAYING into all these years! " i agree that you should expect care,but should you be able to turn down a job you dont like, as per the op, and still recieve benifits then no | |||
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"I already said that too! " in that case sorry | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best Its also NOT what I said! I don't WANT time off, unemployment is not a bloody holiday, I've worked all my life and I'm ENTITLED to expect a level of care from the society me and my family have been PAYING into all these years! " Only if your circumstances dictated a need for it. If you are Ill you go you the Free state funded Dr, if you are unemployed you receive benefits until you find work when you retire you will receive a state pension. Just because you have worked for 23 years does not make you anymore entitled to anything then anyone else. As to the OP damn right he should loose his benefits if he turns the job down. It's his personal choice but if he is fit & qualified to do a job, he should do it. | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best Its also NOT what I said! I don't WANT time off, unemployment is not a bloody holiday, I've worked all my life and I'm ENTITLED to expect a level of care from the society me and my family have been PAYING into all these years! Only if your circumstances dictated a need for it. If you are Ill you go you the Free state funded Dr, if you are unemployed you receive benefits until you find work when you retire you will receive a state pension. Just because you have worked for 23 years does not make you anymore entitled to anything then anyone else. As to the OP damn right he should loose his benefits if he turns the job down. It's his personal choice but if he is fit & qualified to do a job, he should do it. " Nothing in this country is FREE and certainly not healthcare...I've already paid into these "organisations" with sweat and my taxes and as far as I'm aware I'll receive NO state penion on retirement! I never said I was MORE entitled...just simply ENTITLED! | |||
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"Oh she's gone What a surprise after bein caught out." What are you on about? | |||
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"If he refuses the job without good reason. His benefit may be suspended for refusing employment. Benefits are there as a safety net and a condition of getting them as that you seek employment. Personally I would take any job rather than live off the state, or rather live of the tax paid by people like me. 2nd rant of the day over Actually the ONLY condition to receiving benefits in this country is that you are HUMAN, living in THIS country and in NEED of assisstance, the job search thing is a condition of jobseekers nothing more, I've worked 2 jobs for 23 yrs, raised 3 kids and supported my hubby while he was getting his degree's...I think I'm DUE my OWN TAXES! i dont agree with this, you not working puts a strain on everyone who is working, i understand that you have worked, but to say you have worked hard for 23 years so your entitaled to some time off is naive at best Its also NOT what I said! I don't WANT time off, unemployment is not a bloody holiday, I've worked all my life and I'm ENTITLED to expect a level of care from the society me and my family have been PAYING into all these years! Only if your circumstances dictated a need for it. If you are Ill you go you the Free state funded Dr, if you are unemployed you receive benefits until you find work when you retire you will receive a state pension. Just because you have worked for 23 years does not make you anymore entitled to anything then anyone else. As to the OP damn right he should loose his benefits if he turns the job down. It's his personal choice but if he is fit & qualified to do a job, he should do it. Nothing in this country is FREE and certainly not healthcare...I've already paid into these "organisations" with sweat and my taxes and as far as I'm aware I'll receive NO state penion on retirement! I never said I was MORE entitled...just simply ENTITLED! " How is healthcare not free? I'm Ill, I go to a go to the GP....free I have an accident I go to hospital...free I need a sexual health screening & contraception. ....free I need a operation, I may need to wait if non urgent but still free. If I an unemployed or in receipt of benefits my prescriptions are free. I get subsidised dentistry (I'm fully employed) costs and due to family health problems free eye tests. So sorry......what exactly isn't free regards healthcare in the UK? | |||
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" How is healthcare not free? I'm Ill, I go to a go to the GP....free I have an accident I go to hospital...free I need a sexual health screening & contraception. ....free I need a operation, I may need to wait if non urgent but still free. If I an unemployed or in receipt of benefits my prescriptions are free. I get subsidised dentistry (I'm fully employed) costs and due to family health problems free eye tests. So sorry......what exactly isn't free regards healthcare in the UK?" In the UK, we have an excellent healthcare service, which is "free at the point of need". However, it's not provided out of thin air, we're all paying for it indirectly through our taxes. | |||
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"Take the job, take the money, leave people a note instead when they park wrong advising them not to do it again- corrupt from the inside! they'll soon change their minds when he dishes out no tickets " That is truly the mark of a wonderful man. Respect. | |||
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"I have no personal experience of the benefits people receive but I have friends that have. The first example I have been told about is my friend is a diabetic. He was being told by his advisor 'not' to inform any potential employer about his medical issues during the application and the interview stages, In short LIE. This is not only illegal but a dangerous practice, any accident/injury caused by the undisclosed diabetes would not be covered by the companies insurance. The second was a friends daughter, she was made to work in a totally male warehouse, not illegal I know, just awkward. The work was heavy lifting, so heavy that men that had been sent in by an agency walked out after a few hours claiming it was too hard. She stayed and worked for three days, her father, my friend, noticed her whole body was covered in bruises. After a count up she had 40 bruises over her arms, legs and torso. She no longer works for this very well known and respected high street chain, and is waiting on a decision about the effect it may have on her benefits. Those that claim ' they will do any job' should be very careful, you may just get what you wished for, a job that you can't physically do, but advisors are claiming that you can! " | |||
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"The problem is that if go for another job and admit to being a parking parasite then what sort of reaction will you get from the interviewer? i'd show them the door straight away." Do you realise how stupid that makes you sound? And for those who don't like traffic wardens? Don't park illegally - it's not rocket science *Her* | |||
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"The problem is that if go for another job and admit to being a parking parasite then what sort of reaction will you get from the interviewer? i'd show them the door straight away. Do you realise how stupid that makes you sound? And for those who don't like traffic wardens? Don't park illegally - it's not rocket science *Her*" What's rocket science got to do with anything? All sorts of companies put illegal parking restrictions all over our country, including the council, I refuse to be led like a blind sheep, I also won't pay any tickets or fines! | |||
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"The problem is that if go for another job and admit to being a parking parasite then what sort of reaction will you get from the interviewer? i'd show them the door straight away. Do you realise how stupid that makes you sound? And for those who don't like traffic wardens? Don't park illegally - it's not rocket science *Her* What's rocket science got to do with anything? All sorts of companies put illegal parking restrictions all over our country, including the council, I refuse to be led like a blind sheep, I also won't pay any tickets or fines! " All sorts of people park with complete indifference to what effect it has on traffic flow, road safety and general inconvenience too. Picking and choosing which laws we like to adhere to is a dangerous game is it not ? If you heroically refuse to pay fines, why not boycott the parking they provide also ? | |||
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"The problem is that if go for another job and admit to being a parking parasite then what sort of reaction will you get from the interviewer? i'd show them the door straight away. Do you realise how stupid that makes you sound? And for those who don't like traffic wardens? Don't park illegally - it's not rocket science *Her* What's rocket science got to do with anything? All sorts of companies put illegal parking restrictions all over our country, including the council, I refuse to be led like a blind sheep, I also won't pay any tickets or fines! All sorts of people park with complete indifference to what effect it has on traffic flow, road safety and general inconvenience too. Picking and choosing which laws we like to adhere to is a dangerous game is it not ? If you heroically refuse to pay fines, why not boycott the parking they provide also ? " I do! I park where I like! | |||
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"The problem is that if go for another job and admit to being a parking parasite then what sort of reaction will you get from the interviewer? i'd show them the door straight away. Do you realise how stupid that makes you sound? And for those who don't like traffic wardens? Don't park illegally - it's not rocket science *Her* What's rocket science got to do with anything? All sorts of companies put illegal parking restrictions all over our country, including the council, I refuse to be led like a blind sheep, I also won't pay any tickets or fines! All sorts of people park with complete indifference to what effect it has on traffic flow, road safety and general inconvenience too. Picking and choosing which laws we like to adhere to is a dangerous game is it not ? If you heroically refuse to pay fines, why not boycott the parking they provide also ? I do! I park where I like! " Lol best of luck, ill shed a tear when you're towed | |||
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"Course you do. Sorry don't believe you. Are you a 7th dan in Karate as well? " . ? | |||
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"Course you do. Sorry don't believe you. Are you a 7th dan in Karate as well? " I don't know if you are referring to me but if you were, then.. I do have a few martial arts trophies, But I don't really see the relevance? | |||
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"Take the job, he can always chat up the totty and give them his number instead of a ticket " And you could always join that dating site for people who like uniforms. Might be a rubbish job for you but may have it's benefits(No pun intended). | |||
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