FabSwingers.com forum: Free laptops and broadband

By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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I just caught something on the radio in the car... so forgive me if I get a detail wrong as I've not bothered to have a look for the story yet.

There is a government plan to provide free laptops and broadband (I'm sure it said bb and not just internet access) to low income families. Though the scheme is currently limited to 270,000 laptops at this time.

Is this a good idea?

My first thought (the knee-jerk reaction) was …. Well that’s a great way to reduce the country’s carbon footprint, ban 100 watt light bulbs then give more people stuff which uses electricity.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

i would agree to this if it was not gonna be abused as it will be as within weeks loads will be for sale

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just think it is a gimmicky electioneering promise to get votes and that it will never be realised.....old cynic that I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont agree to it

So if you work for a living you have to pay for your own laptop and BB, but if you dont not only do you get your rent and council tax paid for you they give you a laptop and pay for your BB too ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont agree to it

So if you work for a living you have to pay for your own laptop and BB, but if you dont not only do you get your rent and council tax paid for you they give you a laptop and pay for your BB too ffs

only rent and council tax????

been unemployed sine made redundant a year ago....no help whatsoever from the state as I own my house n mrs stu works....if she lost her job...then we'd be rolling in the cash the state would throw at us.....madness!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there was some government pledge that by a certain year every home in the country would have internet access. personally i think its open to abuse and as most libaries, community centres etc have public use internet. i think the money could be put to far better use personally!! i got mine from 3 and at 20 quid a month its no big money deal basically one packet of fags less a wk! xx

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

It's only costing £300 million to set up btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" not only do you get your rent and council tax paid for you

have you actualy tried getting them paid for you

i have its just about impossiable to get real help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wonder if they will give me a new one now seein how i just spat coffee over the screen!!! 300 million..... its fuckin ludicrous!! we got people sleepin on the street, waiting lists for operations, social services stretched to the limit and some fuckin idiot come up with this!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wonder if they will give me a new one now seein how i just spat coffee over the screen!!! 300 million..... its fuckin ludicrous!! we got people sleepin on the street, waiting lists for operations, social services stretched to the limit and some fuckin idiot come up with this!!!!!!!!!!!!

general election next year....is it any suprise????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont agree to it

So if you work for a living you have to pay for your own laptop and BB, but if you dont not only do you get your rent and council tax paid for you they give you a laptop and pay for your BB too ffs

Have to agree with what's been said above.

Us mugs who work get nowt and those who don't, seem to get everything handed on a plate - now laptops and free internet. That's great, they'll now be able to sit on their arses all day and surf the net.

Oh no that's not true - they'll be usuing it to check the JCP website to search for a job

Yeah - course they will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my local library has about 10 pcs for public use, send the lazy fookers down there if they want a pc, get them out the house for a bit lol

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

.... "Gordon Brown has promised free laptops and broadband access to 270,000 low income families, as the Government looks to narrow the digital divide.

The scheme will be backed by a £300 million investment, and comes as the Government pushes schools to make reports on children available to parents online.

"We want every family to become a broadband family, and we want every home linked to a school. It will mean all families can come together, learn together and reap rewards together," Gordon Brown told attendees of an international education forum in Westminster.

So the mother who's worried about her son struggling with his reading can find out more about how she can help. Or the dad who works long hours and can't make a parents' evening can keep in touch with his daughter's progress, at whatever time of the day or night that he's free," he concluded.

The idea was first mooted in 2008 by former schools minister Jim Knight, but will be enshrined in the Children, Schools and Families Bill 2009/2010.

The Government has yet to confirm the criteria by which low-income families will be judged, though it will not be enough for children to qualify for free school meals - the Government's traditional benchmark." ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem is, regardless of what the government do, some people wont be happy, they could always add the money on more foreign aid, or perhaps spend it on playstation 3’s for prisoners, that would go well with there xbox360’s and plasma TV’s, but whatever they do don’t spend it on families that’s living in poverty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

time for the revalution i think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i class as low income family but i already pay for laptop and broadband and as i stated earlier it works out at 5 pounds a wk no great deal of money!! it has been useful for homework etc granted but if i was stuck with somethin in the homework we would go to library and find out!!

this money could be way better spent!x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if it improves their IT skills and makes them more attractive to employers

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and last but not least..

more fab members.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and while on the subject in our county there are more jobs going begging than people out of work, ok most of the jobs are min wage but surely its better to earn money than expect others to pay for your living

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"........

and last but not least..

more fab members.......

Always the opportunist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"........

and last but not least..

more fab members.......

Always the opportunist

when the well runs dry... yu move to the next

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and while on the subject in our county there are more jobs going begging than people out of work, ok most of the jobs are min wage but surely its better to earn money than expect others to pay for your living"

would love to know where these jobs are.

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have applied for these fecking jobs.....A degree n 2 Diploma's and a wealth of transferrable skills....and am told that I aint getting the jobs due to the high quality of other applicants.....ffs....are they all nuclear fuckin' physicists??....why did i ever bother training for professional careers???

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stu

you know why... any potential boss will be intimidated and in fear that you may rise above them in the corporate ladder.....

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

"I dont agree to it

So if you work for a living you have to pay for your own laptop and BB, but if you dont not only do you get your rent and council tax paid for you they give you a laptop and pay for your BB too ffs

only rent and council tax????

was in exactly the same position for 2 years - if I hadn't taken a small pension, being over 50 I would have got everythng paid but I 'earnt' £5 a week to much to get any benefits what-so-ever, not even job seekers allowance!

Mustn't complain though must we? I mean I now travel about 1000 miles a week to earn a living but at least I have my selfesteam back. Was a blody hard 2 years though I can tell you - thank god we kept our broadband connection so I could search for jobs from the comfort of my own home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as a mother i see none!!! send them to the library/community centre/school!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stu

you know why... any potential boss will be intimidated and in fear that you may rise above them in the corporate ladder.....

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

stu

you know why... any potential boss will be intimidated and in fear that you may rise above them in the corporate ladder.....

and boy did I come across this problem too! Persevere though Stu, it will come good in the end, my new job pays as well as the old one and I don't have half the responsibility

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

(whoops - typo)

The sceptic in me wants to type…. So the mother who’s worried about her bingo money can sell knocked off stuff on ebay and find a few other ways to make some extra nuggets. Or the dad who works long hours (really? Works long hours but he’ll qualify for this… oh OK then) will be able to watch porn whatever time of day or night he’s free”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When Dickens wrote ......

' Are there no workhouses.... well fuck me ... who said history teaches us lessons.....?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stu

you know why... any potential boss will be intimidated and in fear that you may rise above them in the corporate ladder.....

and boy did I come across this problem too! Persevere though Stu, it will come good in the end, my new job pays as well as the old one and I don't have half the responsibility

Am a tenacious little devil....lol....perservering one of my middle names....comes between perverted and deviant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stu

you know why... any potential boss will be intimidated and in fear that you may rise above them in the corporate ladder.....

you are in a hard situation and you are trying however there are people near us who have no intention of working and while its so easy for them to not why should they.

andy is in a very seasonal job and in the winter often has no work so he saves in the summer to last the winter and last winter took a job in the local tesco to help make ends meet, he has a degree and is way over qualified but money is money and he didnt want to sign on, also he was bored of being at home lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Similar situation, seasonal job, attempted applying for full-time work. I'd get bored easily ='over-qualified' (their words not mine) and my age, not stated, but off the record is hinted at. I qualify for no free aid or assistance because I have set aside money for my children.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"When Dickens wrote ......

' Are there no workhouses.... well fuck me ... who said history teaches us lessons.....?

One of my grannies was born in a workhouse... so I was told.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

This reminds me of an old lady we used to know. I was out of work but instead of sitting on my arse like most of todays unemployed do, I "worked" for a local charity. It was really sad to see Mrs Smith (names have been changed to protect the.. errr.... well someone!) having to dig into the modest amount of money her husband had worked hard all his life to save.

He had also paid into an insurance policy, so when he died, she was just over £10,000 better off financially. Well, that put her way over the £6000 upper limit at the time for any help at all.

Two doors down were another elderly lady we used to help (driving to appointments, shopping and the like). Her husband had pissed it all up against the wall and they had taken lovely holidays and he left her with nothing! Even the house wasn't theirs. She got every benefit going and was so much better off than Mrs Smith.

This brings me back to this post and what the OP has typed about. Seems nothing has changed except for the worst in the 20 years since my story happened. If you piss it up the wall and smoke even though you can't afford it, don't worry. The rest of the population are there to help. If you look after yourself and your finances... Hard fookin cheese!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone here with a job who has moaned.... Give up your job and get your free laptop ..... simple.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Similar situation, seasonal job, attempted applying for full-time work. I'd get bored easily ='over-qualified' (their words not mine) and my age, not stated, but off the record is hinted at. I qualify for no free aid or assistance because I have set aside money for my children. "

Well, if I was you I would find a way to spend (not invest) this money, perhaps in jewelry so that it is gone, but is transferable back to cash quite easily. That way you can claim and still have a nest egg for the kids!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx"

pulling on my stripey pullover and grabbing my swag bag.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone here with a job who has moaned.... Give up your job and get your free laptop ..... simple. "

do you work granny?? just curious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx"

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Anyone here with a job who has moaned.... Give up your job and get your free laptop ..... simple. "

That is just a little too flippant! No one with a job is going to leave it just to get a £300 netbook! The point is that we don't agree with this wholesale spending of our money on stupid schemes that have no real benefit! And when we are still in a recession!

How many of these will find their way onto ebay? Sorry, but when it comes to things other than food, shelter and the basics of life... Get out and earn the fooking money!!!

Thing is, Gordon Clown knows he hasn't got to find the money, he will leave that problem for the next PM (but it could buy votes!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age"

nope i mean thatcher and her private pensions that meant people paid into a private pension to find yrs later it was worthless and that people bought their houses and built a nest egg for their children only to find they had to sell house if they needed care and that the nest egg they worked hard for was pointless xx

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

It is funny how people still bring up Mrs Thatcher!!! She has been gone for about 18 years for goodness sake... Labour have been in for nearly 14 and they have had plenty of time to reverse anything Mags did, but they chose not to. Why? Because for all their posturing at the time, they loved it!

If you want to blame anyone for todays problems, Tony B. Liar and Gordon Clown are ya men! (including the Chav society where benefits are better than working!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she done the ground work and the legislation change!! the next lot in werent much better but did ok with some things!! who knows what the future holds?? we may not have jobs but at least we will all get a free laptop whoopeee!!! x

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age

Tony B Liar took the money out of pensions! He retrospectively taxed pension pots to get more taxation, not long after he sold most of our gold reserves!!! Maggie may have extolled the virtues, but it was OUR choice and Labour took it away!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK government has approx 160-240 "operationally available nuclear warheads" WHY ??????

We already have MORE than enough, in fact we have agreed to cut them back, however the spend last year on nuclear weapons was approx £1.2 BILLION , this year its proposed to be only £1.1 BILLION.

I'd rather give EVERY fecker a free car/house/broadband/laptop, anything could be arranged (almost) if we reduced our spending in pointless weaponary to zero.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age

yeah and it was maggie that put millions on the dole and destroyed the national industries for privatisation and started the benefit culture cause there were no other jobs for people and for future generations!! the selling off of gold i thought was brown but him and blair both off the same song sheet!xx

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

this is getting very political and I said my piece up above.

All I can say is that anyone who really wants to work (and I sure did) will keep at it. Last time I was unemployed I was featured on the telly for the number of applications I made either for advertised jobs, contacts I had or just plain begging letters to anyone in my industry. The irony was I applied all over the world but was living in Lincolnshire at the time and ended up with a job within 10 miles of where I lived.

I would have gladly worked at the local Tesco/Morrissons/Sainsburys etc but can you believe I was given 3 different excuses

1. They were only employing retired people (don't think it was legal) I said I was getting a pension but it didn't work

2. I wasn't a student (again I think illegal to say) and I couldn't argue that, although I was willing to go on any training course they wanted me to

3. Thet were only employing people part time - I said great just what I want - was told couldn't possibly give me the job because I was ................wait for it.............. to intelligent and that I would be off within 5 minutes!

Could go on for ages but will bore you all more than I usually do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone here with a job who has moaned.... Give up your job and get your free laptop ..... simple.

do you work granny?? just curious?"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cool what do you think as a taxpayer?? x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another way for people to scam things, this country makes me sick... If I go on i'll fill the whole page so I will stop at that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone here with a job who has moaned.... Give up your job and get your free laptop ..... simple.

How many of these will find their way onto ebay? Sorry, but when it comes to things other than food, shelter and the basics of life... Get out and earn the fooking money!!!

Thing is, Gordon Clown knows he hasn't got to find the money, he will leave that problem for the next PM (but it could buy votes!)"

I didn't expect anyone who was working would give up their job. Still ... i'm being serious. Those who are moaning can give up their jobs and get a free laptop and if they won't they could stop bleating that they had to buy their own. If your only reason for working is to have someone to treat as less deserving why work? Keeping others short of what is now a necessity for communication is not my motivation. As for getting out and earning the money ....obviously i've missed the bit where a glut of well paid jobs became available. I'll admit right here and now that I haven't read about the scheme or thought things through properly but I would prefer as wide a section of the population to be educated, to take part in as much as they can , to have a stake , to understand , to care. I don't want to be responsible for keeping others down and creating schisms and fragmentations. The same line of thinking proposed here would stop the payment of heating allowances to pensioners in case they ambled up to the bingo with it. Unemployment affects all sections of society and it is the least 'inelligent' the least 'cultured' and the least employable who are the most vunerable. Why kick them further? I tried phoning my post office last Saturday .. I was bloody furious cos the answer machine kept saying 'go online' everything you want is there. My docs apppointments are made online I bank online , tax my car, look for work ...etc etc ... I'd rather the money went to the unemployed than built another motorway. I'm off to read it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i knew u would be able to come up with the most sensible answer!! thats why i asked! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"cool what do you think as a taxpayer?? x

I pay a lot of tax. I would prefer to pay tax to help my brothers in society than to line the pockets of fiddling politicians or white collar workers who know how to evade paying tax.

Whether it goes on lap tops or nipple clamps is of no difference to me. Hmmmmmmmm strike that..... it's a big difference. Getting a lap top could help someone educate AND employ themsleves....... less of my money going on NHS and Prison services.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

I do resent these schemes the government keep brining in

as I have worked since leaving school and not because i want to (as i dont like getting out my bed at 6 in the morning)but because I have to if I want to have a laptop and broadband etc.

There are a lot more important things to spend the money on as far as I am concerned ppl are dying from lack of drugs and I am not talking about heroin here (although a sustitute for this will be given free of charge for the rest of your life if your an addict.

Spend the money elsewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do resent these schemes the government keep brining in

as I have worked since leaving school and not because i want to (as i dont like getting out my bed at 6 in the morning)but because I have to if I want to have a laptop and broadband etc.

Spend the money elsewhere"

I'm addicted to crisps.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

would love to know where these jobs are.

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice."

Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

Lot of c@rp spoken on here about the unemployed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

good luck with the interview

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would love to know where these jobs are.

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice.

Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

Lot of c@rp spoken on here about the unemployed

fingers crossed for you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would love to know where these jobs are.

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice.

Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

Lot of c@rp spoken on here about the unemployed

Do you have a laptop tho ?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"This reminds me of an old lady we used to know. I was out of work but instead of sitting on my arse like most of todays unemployed do, I "worked" for a local charity. It was really sad to see Mrs Smith (names have been changed to protect the.. errr.... well someone!) having to dig into the modest amount of money her husband had worked hard all his life to save.

He had also paid into an insurance policy, so when he died, she was just over £10,000 better off financially. Well, that put her way over the £6000 upper limit at the time for any help at all.

I've been volunteering with a local authority charity, they have offered to put me through various qualification courses in return for hour put in.

I've been upfront with the dole office about my attempting to retrain for a new career in coaching but they are trying to stop me from volunteering - event though they won't actually fund the quals themselves!

Not eveyone on the dole is a layabout, but some of us are at home despite wanting to volunteer!

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By *iss_serenityWoman
over a year ago

nottingham

ya know, the one thing i hate more then anything else is the way people pre-judge and give u that "your on benefits so therefore ain't good enough to even be on the end of my boot" look they give u when u say ur out of work.

i've been out of work for 6 years now, and haven't spent my time watching jeremy kyle and pissing me my money away on bingo nights out and endless bottles of lambrini.

i've worked since i was 14, only leaving work to take care of my son when he was a year old and no one could look after him while i was working and as i was a single parent, i couldn't afford the nursery fees.

in that time i've spend endless hours doing courses to improve my chances of finding work again, inbetween looking after other family members kids while they worked and becoming a carer for my grandparents.

now i balace my house on less then 400 quid a week, which as anyone knows, is bloody hard work and yes, i've actually rang up this morning and appied for one of these free laptop and internet deals that the goverment is offering.

main reason i;ve done this is because my son is 7 years old and basically has no computer skills. his last school had no computers and his school at the moment only offers half an hour computer time per week to him and thats hardly going to help him in this computer obsessed world. yes i take him to the library, we can normally get lucky and get one hour's worth of computer time every 2 weeks.

and yeah, if we're lucky enough to get one, i may well use it to ebay items as that would help us out no end. i can understand yeah there is people out there that will abuse the chance they are getting but please spare a thought for those that will actually be using this scheme for good.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

would love to know where these jobs are.

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice.

Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

Lot of c@rp spoken on here about the unemployed

Do you have a laptop tho ?"

What do you think i'm typing on???

I have a broadband connection because i'm locked into a BT contract that doesn't end til july so i have to pay it whether i work or not.

The redundancy pay out is slowly shrinking and my mortgage insurance will run out in october.

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

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How did we ever manage to be educated without the internet?

I do keep thinking of the benefit to the kids, even if the scheme will only be aimed at houses with children aged between 7 and 14… hhmmmm so when it’s coming up to their exams the scheme does not apply?

And then that question comes up again… How did we ever manage without the internet?

If I needed to source information I went to the library… oh they have computers there now. So kids could go there to do their homework… just like I had to.

If there are children in our schools without home computers and internet access in the home… why have an education system which makes them disadvantaged for not having one?

Then that question comes up again… How did we ever manage without the internet?

Reports will be available online (paper is still available) and if you can’t get to parents evening you can still communicate… is the phone a thing of the past?

And back to the green issue… campaigns asking us to drive 5 miles less per week, switch off lights and plug 270,000 extra laptops into the mains … is there not some conflict there?

No matter how much I try to balance the pro’s and con’s… I just can’t make it feel right. I’d sooner the money be spent in schools so we can be sure it IS going to help educate some children.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I do find it sad that just because someone hasnt been able to find a job there classed as "lazy feckers" by some.

Yes we all know there are dole cheats and scroungers but what about all the genuine people looking for work. Not working is bad for there self esteem there confidence plummets and then there called lazy feckers. Maybe some should walk a mile in their shoes first. Just hope your not made redundant to find out what its like

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"ya know, the one thing i hate more then anything else is the way people pre-judge and give u that "your on benefits so therefore ain't good enough to even be on the end of my boot" look they give u when u say ur out of work.

i've been out of work for 6 years now, and haven't spent my time watching jeremy kyle and pissing me my money away on bingo nights out and endless bottles of lambrini.

I'm sorry but I have to ask... how are you managing to post on here?

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over a year ago

i've been out of work for 6 years now, and haven't spent my time watching jeremy kyle and pissing me my money away on bingo nights out and endless bottles of lambrini.

i have a lot less than 400 to balance a house on and im a further education student who by the time i graduate i will owe the government 20k in student loans before i get a job if im lucky enough or get one suitable to my degree im workin whilst doin degree on the bare minimum wage with no rent rebate and 25% off council tax and im a lone parent too. most schools in scotland need to have x amount of computers per pupil and IT is part of the cirriculum. i still say this money could be spent in better ways. i dont grudge anyone anythin iv had my stint of bein unemployed and the stigma that goes with it xx

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

My sons school where running a programme where by they would give the children an apple laptop and you would pay interest free installmens over three years and at a low price, think it would of worked out at something like £3 a week. As my son was in his last year i didnt take up on the offer but would of done. This was for all children and not just those from low income families

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over a year ago

"i have a lot less than 400 to balance a house on and im a further education student who by the time i graduate i will owe the government 20k in student loans before i get a job if im lucky enough or get one suitable to my degree im workin whilst doin degree on the bare minimum wage with no rent rebate and 25% off council tax and im a lone parent too. most schools in scotland need to have x amount of computers per pupil and IT is part of the cirriculum. i still say this money could be spent in better ways. i dont grudge anyone anythin iv had my stint of bein unemployed and the stigma that goes with it xx"

Well you’ll be eligible to apply for one then

there not just for the unemployed, they’re for low income families

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nah im fine iv got one with 3 its only 20 quid a month that will do for me!! i got it for startin uni cause i knew i would really need it then! but still spend a lot of time in library!! xx

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

being one of the many " unclean" out there who are out of work( through no fault of my own) i am realing at the attitude some are showing on here right now, i'm 54 this year and left school at a little over 15 thats 39 years working with out any breaks ( other than hoilidays or bout's of sick leave) and many change's in carreer/jobs till last year when the company i worked for closed it's doors on friday as usual and then come monday we were locked out from our jobs because the guy had done one. Please remember that for some of us the situation was forced on us and some of us are working as hard to replace the job we lost, but the job's vacant listing is loaded with agency work that really doesn't exsist, believe me i've applied fo many "jobs" with many agencie's only to be told to sigh these forms sir and we will see if we can find you some work.

the total number of jobs available to the working man is swelled by these so called job's and the goverment will do nothinh to take these of the listing's because they know the give the working man a stick with which to beat the non working man with, ooooh and you try living on £64.50 a week ( ok rent paid and council tax too) but i still have to feed cloth and heat and light my living space, if you take out £30 a week for gas electric, £25 for food stuff's that leaves me with less than £10 a week to enjoy myself on.

No i'm not saying i'm hard done by, i'm saying i'll work doing anything if there was something out there for me to do.

What i will say is just hope you the working amongst you never ever find yourself in the position i'm currently in and haver to read this kind of nastiness

AND YES YOU CAN BET YOUR LIFE I'M ANNOYED THAT YOU CAN LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE'S AT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IN SUCH WAYS AS YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR IN THIS THREAD.

JUST REMEBER THAT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD THERE GOED I. it could well be you next that gets castigated just because your unfortunate enogh to become one of the great unclean( unemployed )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just a shame to see that a scheme that is actually for once aimed at helping educate societys children, who through no fault of there own, and deserve the chance is ridiculed.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

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"It's just a shame to see that a scheme that is actually for once aimed at helping educate societys children, who through no fault of there own, and deserve the chance is ridiculed."

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over a year ago

iv reread the posts and no one is actually being abusive about unemployment and the unemployed who are willing to work??

there is no disputin the fact that there are some who have sat on the dole that long that they will get a golden clock from the job centre when they go on to the state pension!!

the people who have lost thier jobs because of the recession have my utmost sympathy the seriel dole dwellers dont and i dont care if that offends!!xxx

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over a year ago

"iv reread the posts and no one is actually being abusive about unemployment and the unemployed who are willing to work??

there is no disputin the fact that there are some who have sat on the dole that long that they will get a golden clock from the job centre when they go on to the state pension!!

the people who have lost thier jobs because of the recession have my utmost sympathy the seriel dole dwellers dont and i dont care if that offends!!xxx"

I agree, but what about the children of these dole dwellers you meantion, has society to give up on them to, after all it the children this scheme is all about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes,another interesting reponse by our government.Instead of increasing the skills level of these people so that they can earn more and do more for themselves -throw more taxpayers cash at it in the hope that something might work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just got my first laptop 3 months ago. Before just used the library. Saved up and got it for my daughter going senior school. There are some good deals out there if you look.

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over a year ago

IF and i emphasise IF the children are goin to benefit from it then great but who is goin to teach them to use it? who is goin to ensure it is bein used for the correct purpose?? it just feels too open to abuse for my liking and i think the money would be better spent on say education or resources xx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"I do resent these schemes the government keep brining in

as I have worked since leaving school and not because i want to (as i dont like getting out my bed at 6 in the morning)but because I have to if I want to have a laptop and broadband etc.

Spend the money elsewhere"

Where 'else' would you spend the money?

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over a year ago

never underestimate a childrens ability to learn when they have the right tools, the same way most people on this thread learned to use one, by having one in front of them.

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

"iv reread the posts and no one is actually being abusive about unemployment and the unemployed who are willing to work??

there is no disputin the fact that there are some who have sat on the dole that long that they will get a golden clock from the job centre when they go on to the state pension!!

the people who have lost thier jobs because of the recession have my utmost sympathy the seriel dole dwellers dont and i dont care if that offends!!xxx"

like always you paint one you paint them all, as the unemployed are just that unemployed, it's a lable thsats covers many hundred's if not thousands of men and women, unfortunately the few again will spoil it for the many, and then theres all those who claim and receive DLA and are not entitled to it, because they can breath eat and sleep, thus making them a living human capable of working.

remeber those among us who are unfortunate enough not to work for what ever reason, are no less a human being than the the working people. the only difference is that we the unemployed are a simple and easy target. the people you really want to be deridding are those who have absolutely no intension of working because they see it as their god given right to do so.

i spent 27 years married and bought up a small family sometimes on a very low income, but i plugged on. now when i'm in the unfortunate postion to require others to help me in my hour of need, what do i see !!!!! or receive !!!!!

to the first,,,,, people who look down at me like a leaper

to the second,,,,,,, nothing other than a merger amount on which to live.

I DARE ANY OF YOU WHO EARN £200 PLUS A WEEK TO TRY AND LIVE ON WHAT I GET.

it's soul destroying it's humiliating,and it's not funny in the slightest to see your mates go out on a friday night and your stuck indoors because you can't even afford the price of a pint of let alone a pint of beer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great

can anyone tell me why i work 12 hours a day

we live in a bankrupt country that still thinks its a big player in a small world (what a joke )

might as well join the dole

steve

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

I've been volunteering with a local authority charity, they have offered to put me through various qualification courses in return for hour put in.

............!"

They shouldn't be trying to stop you.

From direct.gov

"Volunteering shouldn’t affect your right to benefits, as long as the only money you receive is to cover your volunteering expenses, such as travel from home to the volunteering location.

There are no limits on the amount of time you can volunteer for as long as you continue to meet the conditions of the benefit or tax credit you are receiving.

For example if you receive Jobseekers Allowance you must still be actively seeking a full-time job, able to attend job interviews at 48 hours notice and available to work at one week’s notice.

However, in most cases, if you volunteer full-time and receive an allowance from your volunteering organisation you will not usually be eligible to receive benefits. It is always advisable to discuss your choice of voluntary work with your benefits adviser before you start.

Your benefits adviser will vary depending on the type of benefit you receive. It could be your local council (for benefits such as Council Tax and Housing Benefit), Jobcentre Plus or The Pension Service."

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

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I can't speak for Nottingham but a lot of local authorities use something called netloan to provide internet services to libraries etc.

Netloan allows booking of slots. It might be worth checking if this is available near you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"never underestimate a childrens ability to learn when they have the right tools, the same way most people on this thread learned to use one, by having one in front of them. "

i have children i know how they learn and the most effective ways of learning and i also know that not all of the information on the internet is true! and i still stand by my original thought the money could be better spent!!

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over a year ago

"iv reread the posts and no one is actually being abusive about unemployment and the unemployed who are willing to work??

there is no disputin the fact that there are some who have sat on the dole that long that they will get a golden clock from the job centre when they go on to the state pension!!

the people who have lost thier jobs because of the recession have my utmost sympathy the seriel dole dwellers dont and i dont care if that offends!!xxx

to the first,,,,, people who look down at me like a leaper

to the second,,,,,,, nothing other than a merger amount on which to live.

I DARE ANY OF YOU WHO EARN £200 PLUS A WEEK TO TRY AND LIVE ON WHAT I GET.

your shoutin at the converted here, iv assisted a few people from here and lots from other places with forms from the dss etc. your on your high horse about this and let me assure you personally iv been on the dole iv also been the working poor working for the equivilent of 3 quid an hr when i was self employed iv raised a child single handly with no financial assistance from the father im one of those scourge of lone parents!! what would you rather have 15 quid more on the paltry benefits you recieve or a laptop? if i had the solution for mass unemployment we would all be at a swingin party in 10 downin street!!! i dont appreciate you tryin to make out i have somethin against the unemployed when i dont!!!

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

".........i still stand by my original thought the money could be better spent!!

Where would YOU spend the money?

I'm happy to admit I'd like to see all the 0845 and 0870 etc rate numbers used by assorted official bodies/ GP surgeries and so on be changed in a way that'd allow calls to be made free of charge from mobile phones. I'd also like to see those bodies using 0800 numbers to make them free from mobiles too.

A lot of people on lower incomes who need to contact these numbers no longer have landlines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"never underestimate a childrens ability to learn when they have the right tools, the same way most people on this thread learned to use one, by having one in front of them.

Bearing in mind 1.2 billion is being spent on nuclear arms, wouldn’t we be better making sure that money is better spent than worrying about things that’s aimed at actually helping people.

How would you spend it? It’s ok saying education and the NHS, but every time money gets pumped into these sectors the only thing that changes is the salaries of the staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

better resources for children in schools for starters such as computers or even better buildings better community resources for all age groups improvements to nhs etc that dont involve wage increases for directors etc more money to local authorities again not for salarys for this area grit! more funding for small businesses on the grounds of it bein used for staff and not linin pockets ! x

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

What about housing?

Is there any point in spending huge amounts of NHS dosh fixing people up to send them back to sometimes cold, damp homes?

Or expecting kids to perform well at the school if they haven't slept because of the mould on their bedroom wall?

Or expecting someone who's skippering to find a job when they have 'no fixed abode'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

far better area to spend valuable money on i agree with you there x

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

I'm not having a pop at you persay, i'm having a pop at everyone who thinks that the unemployed are any less a human being just because they are unemployed.

like many here my sympathy lays with those children of the unemployed/low income earners out there, i have adult children with children of their own, who are at school and have the luck to be in a school who run a schemewhere by they get a loan laptop to use at home for "school" work, it's my belief that there are many schools out there who still don't have many if any computors for pupils to use.due in some case's to theft, so supplying laptops to those who can't afford them might stop school break in's and take computors out of school altogether, my grand kids are 7 and 9 and are far more computor literate than i am and often can be heard saying " no granddad you do it like this " laughing at my lack of computor skills, i have to admit to being amused by this though.

yes we could spend the £300 million on many other things, same goes for the billions of £s we spend on the war departments arms, but it's the kids of today who are our future's so lets make sure they have the best start in their future so we can have an easier future too, remember it's those same spotty individuals who will be loking after your needs in years to come lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thanks i didnt want u to think i was havin a pop at the unemployed!!

i agree if schools had them on a loan service it would give kids the chance to do homework and get computer skills on them. im not against the idea im against the potential abuse of the system at which is goin to cost a lot of money which lets face it is very tight at the moment!!and i agree totally on nuclear arms pointless waste of money but some say we need them for defence of the country! xx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

Even the airbrushed Cameron agrees Trident is vital

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"airbrushed Cameron"

Priceless

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and they will seek to recover that "donation" from their paying customers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although we now have computer at home still go library once a week. Our library is fantastic great community spirit And my children love books. I love to read too. Free access to computers if your member to library for one hour a day with netloan or if you need longer there is a small charge. Only thing is cant get on to fabs on there lol as restricted sites.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"airbrushed Cameron

Priceless

He could hardly deny it.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

" .........Only thing is cant get on to fabs on there lol as restricted sites."

If your library offers the Netloan wifi service and you use your own laptop/ netbook there aren't usually any restricted sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and they will seek to recover that "donation" from their paying customers"

wow, a contribution quoted and guess what... mine..

well as an ex director of a telco who sat on the Scottish board.. I wont bore you with the contribution made to enable Broadband britain..

now pop off and I will ignore your woeful contributions and suggest you do mine

xxxx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and they will seek to recover that "donation" from their paying customers

wow, a contribution quoted and guess what... mine..

well as an ex director of a telco who sat on the Scottish board.. I wont bore you with the contribution made to enable Broadband britain..

now pop off and I will ignore your woeful contributions and suggest you do mine

xxxx

Anything you want to tell us about the Bothwell Street tunnel?

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over a year ago

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and they will seek to recover that "donation" from their paying customers

wow, a contribution quoted and guess what... mine..

well as an ex director of a telco who sat on the Scottish board.. I wont bore you with the contribution made to enable Broadband britain..

now pop off and I will ignore your woeful contributions and suggest you do mine

xxxx

Anything you want to tell us about the Bothwell Street tunnel?"

walked it many times ...

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

telco's may partially fund to increase connections

and they will seek to recover that "donation" from their paying customers

wow, a contribution quoted and guess what... mine..

well as an ex director of a telco who sat on the Scottish board.. I wont bore you with the contribution made to enable Broadband britain..

now pop off and I will ignore your woeful contributions and suggest you do mine

xxxx

Anything you want to tell us about the Bothwell Street tunnel?

walked it many times ...

That's the first time I've ever heard anyone 'in the know' admit that it even exists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tied the money into trusts, my son can't touch it till he is 21 and neither would I, but I still get told because it's there I am entitled to nothing from the government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oops ......... lol

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

I tied the money into trusts, my son can't touch it till he is 21 and neither would I, but I still get told because it's there I am entitled to nothing from the government. "

That's gotta be worth a DWP appeal or even a tribunal.

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

have you ever tried to appeal to the DWP or a tribuneral set up on their behalf, your guilty of having to much and theres no getting away from it, as trust funds can be broken, insurances can be cashes in, and private pension funds can be sold to companies who will buy them, and i've even heard of case's where a person living in a large house was told it was far to big for their needs so they should sell and downsize and use the the excess to finance themselves till they were either back at work or in a position to make a claim.

the system is open to abuse by both the claiment and the operator of the benifit office, such is life, win or loose your barking at the possom

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

"have you ever tried to appeal to the DWP or a tribuneral set up on their behalf, your guilty of having to much and theres no getting away from it, as trust funds can be broken, insurances can be cashes in, and private pension funds can be sold to companies who will buy them, and i've even heard of case's where a person living in a large house was told it was far to big for their needs so they should sell and downsize and use the the excess to finance themselves till they were either back at work or in a position to make a claim.

the system is open to abuse by both the claiment and the operator of the benifit office, such is life, win or loose your barking at the possom "

No, I haven't and I'm sure your examples are correct about your examples but I have a little bit of experience of how the various organisations which will support appeals and tribunals work.

If a supported tribunal has been lost then there's probably no point. Tribunal judgements are rarely overturned by the Commissioners but anything short of a decision from a tribunal is worth revisting with proper professional (CAB, welfare rights office/ etc) help.

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over a year ago

the system is open to abuse by both the claiment and the operator of the benifit office, such is life, win or loose your barking at the possom "

yep, downsized, cashed in my own portfolios and my solicitor even says that the money is legally invested in my son's name and if I were to touch it he could sue me for it back!

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

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I dissagree somewhat as for minimum wage I cant pay a childminder and my travel expenses for work. The job I do during the recession has mostly been wiped out so no jobs in the specialism I have been in since leaving school. So now re training as best I can with VOLUNTEER work(so I do it caus I loe it not for money) and then once my little one is at school fulltime I hopefully can find a partime job to fit in with my voluntary work as still want to do that.

Not all on benefits are scrounging people. Some of us are not working for a ery clear reason. Please dont tar us all x

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

One of the problems with generalising when expressing opinions is… well just that, it’s a generalisation and we are often thinking of a specific group when we make the generalisation.

So let’s clear a few points (and I’m sure someone will speak up if this doesn’t apply to them).

I don’t think anyone in this thread has deliberately bundled all unemployed people into one group and labelled them all as lazy scroungers. Speaking for myself if I call someone a scrounger I mean a scrounger. Anyone with more than one active brain cell is capable of seeing and understanding the difference between someone who has been made redundant or who is trying to educate themselves and wants to work with a scrounger… and thus would not clump all people who are unemployed into the same group. I can see how it would be more than frustrating to be one of the former and feel you are seen as one of the later. Please be assured the vast majority of people can tell the difference and do not resent any support you get.

On the other side of the coin, I do hope those of you who are currently unable to work and want to get out of your situation can accept there are people in this country who are not like you and have no intention of doing anything (legal) other than scrounge off of the state.

One of the reasons I get annoyed at scroungers is the impact it has on people who want to work but can’t: in particular lazy bastard and benefit thieves who could work legally but choose lie and scrounge from the state whilst earning back handers of more than a couple of quid to help make ends meet.

I’ve been fortunate to have worked all but 6-7 months (about 7 years back) of my life. I hated going to the Job Centre to sign on and if it wasn’t for my insurance policies requiring me to do so I wouldn’t have gone. But I saw first hand the real scumbag scroungers. Two young mums with bags of shopping (not food) discussing what they would say to get an emergency payment so they could go out on the piss. Some guy (can of beer in hand and docked splif behind his ear) complaining he’d been waiting too long as he had a taxi waiting outside…. and then sold another lad a Henry on his way out. A woman complaining her benefit had been cut as for the last year her mum had been claiming for the two granddaughters living with her that this woman just happened to forget wasn’t living at her house… and then let slip her boyfriend had moved in.

If I get annoyed at these people and label them or talk about them in a derogatory manner it’s not because I look down my nose at ALL unemployed people. It’s because I feel people like you who want to work (and yes that could be me again one day) shouldn’t have to be subjected to being dealt with in the same building as pond-life. Being unemployed shouldn’t carry a stigma… it’s the scumbags which cause it. Get rid of the scumbags, reduce the stigma.

Anyway... I still don't feel the free laptops is a great idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dissagree somewhat as for minimum wage I cant pay a childminder and my travel expenses for work. The job I do during the recession has mostly been wiped out so no jobs in the specialism I have been in since leaving school. So now re training as best I can with VOLUNTEER work(so I do it caus I loe it not for money) and then once my little one is at school fulltime I hopefully can find a partime job to fit in with my voluntary work as still want to do that.

Not all on benefits are scrounging people. Some of us are not working for a ery clear reason. Please dont tar us all x"

if your workin 16 hrs or over tax credits will pay 80% of the cost of a registered childminder. if you need any help with it or just an inquiry pm me and il explain it xxx

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Polo wow, clever, diplomatic and thoughtfully honest, well done.

I just waffle lol.

But _ruity waffles are good x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with every word your saying there polo, but the laptops is aimed at helping the children not the parents, wouldn’t you agree that its always better to try and do something than do nothing, even if a few might abuse the system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can someone save me some time and tell me which replies on this thread refer to free laptops

I would have been interested but cant be arsed trawling through the not topic related posts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agree with every word your saying there polo, but the laptops is aimed at helping the children not the parents, wouldn’t you agree that its always better to try and do something than do nothing, even if a few might abuse the system. "
think they would no that who ever provides them there broadband service

if they get caught ie downloading etc or restricted sites that is unsuitable for younger kids i would think it be taking away an maybe even fine

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age

All of which could have been reversed by Tony B Liar! And he chose not to do that because it bought in loads of taxation....

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By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Actually according to Mr B a couple of the benefit (his selling points) are so parents who are too busy to go to parents evening can still keep up to date with whats happening and so they can access school reports online and so mum can look up ways to help little Johnny with his reading problems.... sorry but I fail to see why a laptop is a must for any of those.

Reports on paper.

Phone calls.

How about the school actually telling mum how to help little Johnny with his reading and give her some support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"thatchers legacy lives on yet!!!!

private pension?? no thanks il keep my money in a biscuit tin under the bed!! xx

dont you mean Heath Thatcher hated free loaders was the labour party caused the unemployment in the 70s

omg showing my age

All of which could have been reversed by Tony B Liar! And he chose not to do that because it bought in loads of taxation...."

there would never have been the backing to renationilise the industries etc plus changing legislation yet again! the torys only ever wanted to change tax to suit the rich not the working class! and lets face it if they get in this time we wont need to worry about the great unwashed getting free laptops because state school funding will be cut that much the kids will be lucky if they have a bloody pencil never mind a laptop to even use in school!!x

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By *im53Man
over a year ago

Boldon

not when your offered £200 less tax wages

but get £300 of the gov tax free

would you take a £100 cut in your weekly wage

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

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By *ouvakMan
over a year ago

clacton on sea

not when your offered £200 less tax wages

but get £300 of the gov tax free

would you take a £100 cut in your weekly wage

tell me how you get £300 a week from the benifits office, because all i can get ( and i have no hiden investments no savings, no private pension plans,and no sidelines ) £64.50 plus housing ( rent) benifit and council tax full total £134.50 though i'd bulk at £ 200 p/w pre tax because after rent and tax ( council) national insurance and paye i'd likely be on less than that.

pay £200

rent £55

c/tax £15.50

nat/i £25 approx

paye @20% £40

total from wage £135.50

total left from wage £64.50

the sums show why £200 a week wouldn't interest some people and thats for a single person not a mum with kids.

so yes i can see why in some case's a free laptop would be a good idea, but the system would be very open to abuse, and like all goverment backed scheme's would be poorly marsheled too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

will be crap laptops and crap broadband no doubt. which is average for the UK

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Thanks yes I am aware of that, but with my olunteer work then to try find a partime job that is 16 hours in the town where I live to fit in with nursery runs(am free from 9.10 until 11.15 5 mornings a week and that includes time to travel so reduces my options. I also dont have a car which reduces again. Still maeks it very hard. Then I still want to do my volunteer work as that will increase my work chances in the future so levaes me with very little time. the last job I did was over 16 hours and the extra money made a difference but fell asleeep at work as so tired with doing everything I do work, volunteer and then family life being a single mum. Makes it impossible and are many people who have an other half to bear some of the workload(kids etc)so why on earth would they give me a job when I am have alot stacked up against me. Hence why I do volunteer work. I do it in the spare time I have and for an hour or so most evenings too lol. All work and no play makes _ruit a dull girl lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think i would be more concerned with gettin a decent wage than doin voluntary work to be honest!!!

i know the position you are in iv been in it for years at one point i had 4 jobs totally over 60 hrs a wk and im a lone parent and had to do it all myself plus run a home and time with kid with no help either financially or time from the kids father so i know the demands it places on people only too well and the sacrifices i had to make which in the end resulted in a better life for me and the kid.

good luck with whatever you do and i hope all the volunteering pays off for you in the long run and you get a good paid job that fits in with your life xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would love to know where these jobs are.

Mr. Babbage ?

I've worked from leaving school, enjoy working for so many reasons, but can't find a bloody job to nearly suffice.

Tell me about it.

Worked at the same Co for 23yrs, made redundant in July & not found work since. I have an interview on Weds & really, really need to win.

Lot of c@rp spoken on here about the unemployed

Do you have a laptop tho ?

What do you think i'm typing on???

I have a broadband connection because i'm locked into a BT contract that doesn't end til july so i have to pay it whether i work or not.

The redundancy pay out is slowly shrinking and my mortgage insurance will run out in october."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Great

can anyone tell me why i work 12 hours a day

we live in a bankrupt country that still thinks its a big player in a small world (what a joke )

might as well join the dole

steve"

I do love a decisive male! Happy dole queuing ... I am opening a full Monty school. See you there xx

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

we came across a website that was set up, assuming by the govebrment explaining what benefits you need to qualify. Basically if you havenet paid in to the system or worked since leaving school you can apply, or an asylum seeker, then you qualify. Seems the tax payer looses out again!!!

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