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"Here's the situation. Father is old, older than me even. (lol) His 2006 1.6 Ford is now getting rather crusty underneath. He want's to replace it. Back in the 1990's I worked in the motor trade but I have been completely out of touch since then. The typical usage is driving 3 miles to the supermarket and 3 miles back via stopping off at the chippy. Twice per week Once per fortnight an additional 5 mile journey each way to a cafe. Once every 6 weeks I borrow the car to run errands over 2 days. Total mileage typically 60 miles across 6 journeys. Once every 3 months or so, one of the above "6 weeks" sessions is replaced by me borrowing the car for my own purposes for 2 days. I typically cover 100 to 200 miles, usually on motorway of dual carriage way over the 2 days. Annual mileage of 2,500 ish according to MOT history, and that tallies. He has suggested a b-max or c-max as they are easy for him to get into. He's also suggested something such as a Bipper van. I am horrified at the thought of anything with a "wet belt" "Dual clutch" "Dual flywheel" or "DPF". Father gets uptight when a new tyre costs over 40 quid. Is there any kind of car which you might recommend as suitable for him? Budget £8,000 If it was my decision, I would spend that £8,000 on an MGB, I can see the benefits. No tax, no MOT, no airbags, no catalytic converter, no DPF, no electric windows to get stuck half way up, etc etc...... but if father actually managed to get into one of those, he certainly wouldn't get out again. Ever. My other option would be to spend the money on buses and taxis. I know that the people of fab are "a sage lot" and so I would welcome your advice.... Oh, and if ya wanna take the p*ss, then I'll allow a pinch of salt when I read your reply." Surely it’s his choice what he wants to buy, it’s his money after all, he has obviously done a bit of research on the car that he wants so look for some and take him to give them a try Mrs | |||
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"Here's the situation. Father is old, older than me even. (lol) His 2006 1.6 Ford is now getting rather crusty underneath. He want's to replace it. Back in the 1990's I worked in the motor trade but I have been completely out of touch since then. The typical usage is driving 3 miles to the supermarket and 3 miles back via stopping off at the chippy. Twice per week Once per fortnight an additional 5 mile journey each way to a cafe. Once every 6 weeks I borrow the car to run errands over 2 days. Total mileage typically 60 miles across 6 journeys. Once every 3 months or so, one of the above "6 weeks" sessions is replaced by me borrowing the car for my own purposes for 2 days. I typically cover 100 to 200 miles, usually on motorway of dual carriage way over the 2 days. Annual mileage of 2,500 ish according to MOT history, and that tallies. He has suggested a b-max or c-max as they are easy for him to get into. He's also suggested something such as a Bipper van. I am horrified at the thought of anything with a "wet belt" "Dual clutch" "Dual flywheel" or "DPF". Father gets uptight when a new tyre costs over 40 quid. Is there any kind of car which you might recommend as suitable for him? Budget £8,000 If it was my decision, I would spend that £8,000 on an MGB, I can see the benefits. No tax, no MOT, no airbags, no catalytic converter, no DPF, no electric windows to get stuck half way up, etc etc...... but if father actually managed to get into one of those, he certainly wouldn't get out again. Ever. My other option would be to spend the money on buses and taxis. I know that the people of fab are "a sage lot" and so I would welcome your advice.... Oh, and if ya wanna take the p*ss, then I'll allow a pinch of salt when I read your reply. Surely it’s his choice what he wants to buy, it’s his money after all, he has obviously done a bit of research on the car that he wants so look for some and take him to give them a try Mrs" I fully agree and see what you are saying. Correct, it IS his money. And indeed, tomorrow, I am tasked with taking him to view a B-Max. It's got a lot in favour for father. The sliding back door and high roof / floor line will, I am sure, make it super easy for him to get in and out of. Indeed, the car was first used as a Motobility car. However, he is expecting me to give solid advice from my motor trade experience about factors such as reliability and running costs. He has already stated that he would be very happy with the 1.0 litre ecoboost engine as it is small and he assumes it will therefore be economical on fuel and insurance. My concern with this particular car lays in the fact that this car has already covered 58,725 miles and the dealer claims that there is no need to replace the timing belt in the foreseeable future. That is an example of the problems I'm looking to avoid by seeking out advice from the ecclectic fab community! | |||
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"serious question - how old is he ?" I'm the best part of 60 and he's the best part of 30 years older than me. He owns the car, but only I drive it. Yes, I am "his carer". I use it mostly for his purposes (doctors, hospital, shopping). Often I need to use it to collect his shopping or to run further errands for him. To add context, my day to day transport for myself is public transport. I do NOT use his car for commuting to and from his home. The car stays at his house overnight. | |||
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"Can he ride a 50cc motorbike? He'd save loads. Don't know if you can still drive them without having to do a course or not. " A 90yr old on a motorbike? lol Mrs | |||
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"Can he ride a 50cc motorbike? He'd save loads. Don't know if you can still drive them without having to do a course or not. A 90yr old on a motorbike? lol Mrs " If' he's 90, save the money and get ring and ride or something | |||
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"Just to mention, if he is in his 90's he's going to find it difficult getting insurance. A relative of mine did - they were 84 and nobody would give a quote, the only reason it was renewed was because they were an existing customer. From memory the odd quote given was a grand for a 1.3 parked off street, doing similar short journeys to the shops. " Correct. My fathers car is correctly insured for the fact that I drive it, but he owns it and it is routinely parked on the driveway at his home address. I do occasionally borrow it and keep it overnight at my home address. typically 3 times per year. Usually at Christmas and New Year, when there simply is NO bus or train service and it is reasonable for me to need to have facility to get to his address if needed. Insurance, road tax, MOT, and routine maintenance are things I haven't even mentioned above. I do agree that dial a bus might be cheaper (it probably would be a LOT cheaper), but father is old, grumpy and likes the security of having a car on the driveway. One day, I will be as old and as grumpy as he is! Meanwhile, I'm loathe to recommend a 1 litre ecoboost B-Max with 58,000 plus miles on the clock and no proof of having had the wet belt changed, to my Dad who is gonna play merry hell with me if anything major mechanically goes wrong with that car in the next 5 or more years. Welcome to old age and balancing families, it will come to you one day!! LOL | |||
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"I'd avoid a one litre ecoboost engine. " Me too! I would avoid any turbo engine that has no long warranty. I would suggest the most suitable Toyota with up to a ten year warranty if Toyota service it or a Kia with seven years as modern cars are VERY expensive to repair. | |||
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"I'd avoid a one litre ecoboost engine. " Thankyou for the upvote on that. So would I, personally, but my old Dad is simply seeing the B-Max with sliding rear doors as a wide open sided car which he can easily climb into. And since it was originally a Mobility car, he struggles to find why it's a bad buy! Your support is valued and welcome! | |||
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"Here's the situation. Father is old, older than me even. (lol) His 2006 1.6 Ford is now getting rather crusty underneath. He want's to replace it. Back in the 1990's I worked in the motor trade but I have been completely out of touch since then. The typical usage is driving 3 miles to the supermarket and 3 miles back via stopping off at the chippy. Twice per week Once per fortnight an additional 5 mile journey each way to a cafe. Once every 6 weeks I borrow the car to run errands over 2 days. Total mileage typically 60 miles across 6 journeys. Once every 3 months or so, one of the above "6 weeks" sessions is replaced by me borrowing the car for my own purposes for 2 days. I typically cover 100 to 200 miles, usually on motorway of dual carriage way over the 2 days. Annual mileage of 2,500 ish according to MOT history, and that tallies. He has suggested a b-max or c-max as they are easy for him to get into. He's also suggested something such as a Bipper van. I am horrified at the thought of anything with a "wet belt" "Dual clutch" "Dual flywheel" or "DPF". Father gets uptight when a new tyre costs over 40 quid. Is there any kind of car which you might recommend as suitable for him? Budget £8,000 If it was my decision, I would spend that £8,000 on an MGB, I can see the benefits. No tax, no MOT, no airbags, no catalytic converter, no DPF, no electric windows to get stuck half way up, etc etc...... but if father actually managed to get into one of those, he certainly wouldn't get out again. Ever. My other option would be to spend the money on buses and taxis. I know that the people of fab are "a sage lot" and so I would welcome your advice.... Oh, and if ya wanna take the p*ss, then I'll allow a pinch of salt when I read your reply." Honda jazz all day long. Will outlast armageddon. | |||
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"Honda Jazz? Plenty on the market. Practical, reliable and all that.....uh, jazz. Mine's done 120,000 ~ my sister, brother in law and niece all have same and they've all been dead good. " I’m on my 3rd Honda CRV now. Properly looked after and regularly serviced at a main dealer, you can’t go wrong..engines are bullet proof. | |||
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"I'd avoid a one litre ecoboost engine. Thankyou for the upvote on that. So would I, personally, but my old Dad is simply seeing the B-Max with sliding rear doors as a wide open sided car which he can easily climb into. And since it was originally a Mobility car, he struggles to find why it's a bad buy! Your support is valued and welcome!" Try to ensure he gets the best possible proper warranty - these insurance based ones can be dubious. Good luck and many happy miles for dear old dad! | |||
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"I am now in my mid 80s and for the past 12 years have been driving Skoda Yeti's ( The car that Clarkson could not destroy) I am now on my 3rd one. Very nice to drive and reliable, 1.4 petrol, manual gearbox. easy to get in and out of. do about 80 miles a week. Running costs about £1700 a year all in. I still have my Mazda MX5 which is currently half way through a major rebuild, had hoped to get it on the road this summer but still a lot to do. As apoint of interest my 79 year old sister drives a Porshe 911 in the summer and a 4wd Audi in the winter." Interesting, but moving away from the focus of the original thread. Father owned a Skoda 110L way back in the 1970's. That is perhaps where his "perfect car for him" was cemented. He was somehow fond of the fact that it overheated above 49mph, especially when he drove it straight through the middle of France in 1975. I also have my own memories of Skoda. Not least the Felicia 1.2 OHV estate car which I punished to death with a load of over 500 kg up one of the steepest hills in Derbyshire. (Kelstedge). I remember changing gear more times that I changed gears in the Bedford TK I passed my driving test in. I'd go with either the MGB (GT) or the MX5 without hesitation if I was choosing, but I'm not choosing. Dad is choosing. And I simply must hold my hands up and declare, that since he is what would be typically classed as "house bound", then something with a high up seat has simply got to be the first choice. I'm gonna suggest he considers the Skoda range. It fits well with him, with his personality and with his preferences. John ! | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs " Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to. | |||
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"Here's the situation. Father is old, older than me even. (lol) His 2006 1.6 Ford is now getting rather crusty underneath. He want's to replace it. Back in the 1990's I worked in the motor trade but I have been completely out of touch since then. The typical usage is driving 3 miles to the supermarket and 3 miles back via stopping off at the chippy. Twice per week Once per fortnight an additional 5 mile journey each way to a cafe. Once every 6 weeks I borrow the car to run errands over 2 days. Total mileage typically 60 miles across 6 journeys. Once every 3 months or so, one of the above "6 weeks" sessions is replaced by me borrowing the car for my own purposes for 2 days. I typically cover 100 to 200 miles, usually on motorway of dual carriage way over the 2 days. Annual mileage of 2,500 ish according to MOT history, and that tallies. He has suggested a b-max or c-max as they are easy for him to get into. He's also suggested something such as a Bipper van. I am horrified at the thought of anything with a "wet belt" "Dual clutch" "Dual flywheel" or "DPF". Father gets uptight when a new tyre costs over 40 quid. Is there any kind of car which you might recommend as suitable for him? Budget £8,000 If it was my decision, I would spend that £8,000 on an MGB, I can see the benefits. No tax, no MOT, no airbags, no catalytic converter, no DPF, no electric windows to get stuck half way up, etc etc...... but if father actually managed to get into one of those, he certainly wouldn't get out again. Ever. My other option would be to spend the money on buses and taxis. I know that the people of fab are "a sage lot" and so I would welcome your advice.... Oh, and if ya wanna take the p*ss, then I'll allow a pinch of salt when I read your reply." I'm here to take the p. Pops is 78 this year and blind. Mom does his shopping, errands, caring, cooking, cleaning, landlording, creditcarding etc... He refuses to get the surgery he needs for glaucoma and cataracts. he refuses to go to the dentist. Not sure if the teeth or the blindness will get him first. The last time he drove his car he turn up after midnight with the coppers after hitting 2 cars and getting lost for over 6 hours. He lives on a small tropical island that you can drive from one end to the other in 30 minutes. He's slowly wasting away. Mother is distraught. Sibling refused to engage in his death jokes. I'm still wondering which of the two will go first and how I can avoid moving back in for the one that is left. I have no children and don't fancy changing the diapers on my parents. Not because I wouldn't do it, because they probably would be so belligerent they won't let me do it. Not a piss take you are a good son. He's lucky to have you. | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to." Me trying to maintain my independence by working in my 40s. My line manager wants me to take ill health pension and refuses to make reasonable adjustments. the current government want the sick and the disabled to work until they are 70. I suppose I can lick envelopes from home or take videos of my feet for paying fans. Best if I don't drive with my brain glitches and attacks and medication. | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to. Me trying to maintain my independence by working in my 40s. My line manager wants me to take ill health pension and refuses to make reasonable adjustments. the current government want the sick and the disabled to work until they are 70. I suppose I can lick envelopes from home or take videos of my feet for paying fans. Best if I don't drive with my brain glitches and attacks and medication." or get a 50cc motorbike  | |||
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"Can he ride a 50cc motorbike? He'd save loads. Don't know if you can still drive them without having to do a course or not. A 90yr old on a motorbike? lol Mrs " I plan to still be riding superbikes at 90 if I can still get my leg over | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to. Me trying to maintain my independence by working in my 40s. My line manager wants me to take ill health pension and refuses to make reasonable adjustments. the current government want the sick and the disabled to work until they are 70. I suppose I can lick envelopes from home or take videos of my feet for paying fans. Best if I don't drive with my brain glitches and attacks and medication. or get a 50cc motorbike "definitely not...I have a e-bike. it's like a mobility scooter but slower because I have to actually pedal or it goes nowhere. | |||
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"Can he ride a 50cc motorbike? He'd save loads. Don't know if you can still drive them without having to do a course or not. A 90yr old on a motorbike? lol Mrs I plan to still be riding superbikes at 90 if I can still get my leg over "my hip hurts at current age so I doubt I will be getting my leg over anything at 90. | |||
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"Can he ride a 50cc motorbike? He'd save loads. Don't know if you can still drive them without having to do a course or not. A 90yr old on a motorbike? lol Mrs I plan to still be riding superbikes at 90 if I can still get my leg over
my hip hurts at current age so I doubt I will be getting my leg over anything at 90."Where there’s a will there’s a way, I love my motorbikes but tbf by the time I’m 90 the whole road network will be one big pothole | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to." No one is telling anyone to give up. A few have pointed out that it makes no financial sense to spend on a car when you are 90. His independence and finacial state can be secured with taxis. | |||
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"He should put the money in an isa and used home delivery for food and taxis for getting around. Makes no sense at his age to buy and upkeep a car never mind the extortionate tax costs Independence is an invaluable part of life and if affordable and viable health wise nobody should be told to give it up if they do not want to. No one is telling anyone to give up. A few have pointed out that it makes no financial sense to spend on a car when you are 90. His independence and finacial state can be secured with taxis." Independence means different things to different people and reliance on other forms of transport is very different to being able to go, or take others, where you want when you want., even if you don’t. As long as health allows everyone is entitled to spend their savings as they see fit having spent their own lifetime working and building them. The mental impact of losing the right and ability to drive can be severe and the cost savings can be of little consolation to the individual. It may not bother some but it will others, we are all individuals and priorities differ. | |||
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