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"You buy a plot of land and it's up to the council to decided what you can build and where and how?" Well. Ish. They will be taking their cue from the current government in terms of house building and land use legislation. Mrs TMN x | |||
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"Just watched a Mark McCan video and he was told to the centimetres as to where he is allowed to build structures on his land? How the fuck is it in councils business as to where you decide to build on your own land? I understand some areas are under preservation but this has nothing to do with land preservation." There are all sorts of considerations. Even if the land is already approved for building there might be, for example, surrounding buildings. There are many visual considerations. All the other buildings down the street might be built a certain distance from the street. They might be of a certain size or general style/character. If you want an example of how things end up if anyone is allowed to build anything on their land any time and any way they want (as you suggest it should be) then visit a slum in Manila or a Favella in Sao Paulo. There are YouTube videos if you don’t actually want to travel. | |||
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"I agree OP it is outrageous. Once you have bought your plot and built your dream house I am going to buy the plot next to you and build a _huge_ lighthouse and put a massive fog horn on it. It’s a shame it will block all your light but who doesn’t love a lighthouse?" I'm going to buy the plot next to your lighthouse and open a sling shot arcade using chickens for targets..... | |||
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"You buy a plot of land and it's up to the council to decided what you can build and where and how?" Would you want somebody building a skyscraper next to your house? | |||
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"I agree OP it is outrageous. Once you have bought your plot and built your dream house I am going to buy the plot next to you and build a _huge_ lighthouse and put a massive fog horn on it. It’s a shame it will block all your light but who doesn’t love a lighthouse? I'm going to buy the plot next to your lighthouse and open a sling shot arcade using chickens for targets..... " It is going to be a classy neighbourhood! | |||
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"I agree OP it is outrageous. Once you have bought your plot and built your dream house I am going to buy the plot next to you and build a _huge_ lighthouse and put a massive fog horn on it. It’s a shame it will block all your light but who doesn’t love a lighthouse? I'm going to buy the plot next to your lighthouse and open a sling shot arcade using chickens for targets..... " Will you be charging or is it free range? | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff?" | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff?" Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️ | |||
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"You buy a plot of land and it's up to the council to decided what you can build and where and how?" To stop the area looking like a miners allotment | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff? Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️" What I'm trying to get at is that the council went beyond all that. The building was safe, didn't impact the wildlife, didn't impact the spoil underneath, wasn't a 50 story skyscraper. Their reasoning was to protect "the openness of the green belt". Bearing in mind that visually nothing could be seen either way. | |||
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"I agree OP it is outrageous. Once you have bought your plot and built your dream house I am going to buy the plot next to you and build a _huge_ lighthouse and put a massive fog horn on it. It’s a shame it will block all your light but who doesn’t love a lighthouse? I'm going to buy the plot next to your lighthouse and open a sling shot arcade using chickens for targets..... Will you be charging or is it free range?" I think it'll be free range so that loads of people visit but you have to bring your own chickens | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff? Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️ What I'm trying to get at is that the council went beyond all that. The building was safe, didn't impact the wildlife, didn't impact the spoil underneath, wasn't a 50 story skyscraper. Their reasoning was to protect "the openness of the green belt". Bearing in mind that visually nothing could be seen either way." If they let one person build whatever they want, that then sets a precedent and makes it impossible to legally enforce planning regulations where the impact might be more noticeable. B | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff? Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️ What I'm trying to get at is that the council went beyond all that. The building was safe, didn't impact the wildlife, didn't impact the spoil underneath, wasn't a 50 story skyscraper. Their reasoning was to protect "the openness of the green belt". Bearing in mind that visually nothing could be seen either way." I've just read the planning application (the Internet is a wonderful thing!). It would have resulted in a 67% increase in size of the original dwelling. Basically he wanted to attach the pool/gym building he'd already got permission to build and had built to the house. The report contains details of all the previous applications and work he's had done and pretty much everything was approved, including converting barns to housss and enlarging a pond. I guess they reached the limit. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff? Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️ What I'm trying to get at is that the council went beyond all that. The building was safe, didn't impact the wildlife, didn't impact the spoil underneath, wasn't a 50 story skyscraper. Their reasoning was to protect "the openness of the green belt". Bearing in mind that visually nothing could be seen either way. I've just read the planning application (the Internet is a wonderful thing!). It would have resulted in a 67% increase in size of the original dwelling. Basically he wanted to attach the pool/gym building he'd already got permission to build and had built to the house. The report contains details of all the previous applications and work he's had done and pretty much everything was approved, including converting barns to housss and enlarging a pond. I guess they reached the limit. 🤷♂️" It turned out at the at the reason the council was giving him all the trouble is because the councilor in question wanted to originally buy that land but lost it to him at an auction and then used his position to torment him for 20 years. I find it baffling as to how petty some of the requirements and requests from the council were. Any normal person would deem that unlawful and unjustified. | |||
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"I'm talking about a land that's couple of hectars big. The nearest neighbour of his was probably like a kilometre away, nothing to do with neighbours or wildlife or unsafe building regulations. Like down right petty stuff? Even if a couple of hectares the nearest neighbour would be closer than that. Rules are there to protect everyone. Imagine if you could build what you want, where you want? For starters there's the issue of power supply, drainage, gas connections etc. Then there's the access, including usable access for construction. Impact on the land based on materials used and design. The footprint any buildings would leave and the impact they'd have on anyone else in the area and local wildlife. Then there's usage. Just domestic or part business/agri/equesttian/other non residential use. And of course good old valuations for council tax/business rates. Planning rules might seem like a ballache, but for every person complaining they're not allowed to do something there'll be a dozen complaining that someone else wants to do something. They create a level playing field for all. 3🤷♂️ What I'm trying to get at is that the council went beyond all that. The building was safe, didn't impact the wildlife, didn't impact the spoil underneath, wasn't a 50 story skyscraper. Their reasoning was to protect "the openness of the green belt". Bearing in mind that visually nothing could be seen either way. I've just read the planning application (the Internet is a wonderful thing!). It would have resulted in a 67% increase in size of the original dwelling. Basically he wanted to attach the pool/gym building he'd already got permission to build and had built to the house. The report contains details of all the previous applications and work he's had done and pretty much everything was approved, including converting barns to housss and enlarging a pond. I guess they reached the limit. 🤷♂️ It turned out at the at the reason the council was giving him all the trouble is because the councilor in question wanted to originally buy that land but lost it to him at an auction and then used his position to torment him for 20 years. I find it baffling as to how petty some of the requirements and requests from the council were. Any normal person would deem that unlawful and unjustified." But that will only be his side of the story. The planning application document does list all the reasons. Doesn't seem 'personal' and it's all there in black and white. He could have appealed if he thought them unreasonable. | |||
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"You buy a plot of land and it's up to the council to decided what you can build and where and how?" It’s called Democracy !!! Isn’t this in the wrong forum ? T. | |||
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