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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " wat makes you say that? Each time this is bought up people say they feel the same about either sex cheating. Its just the women rarely come on here moaning about how hard it is to cheat on their partner | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice wat makes you say that? Each time this is bought up people say they feel the same about either sex cheating. Its just the women rarely come on here moaning about how hard it is to cheat on their partner " I wonder why lol!!!!! | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " The reality is its the same for females and males some find cheating makes them uncomfortable as they have been in a relationship that went that way. Others often couples are not 100% secure in their relationship so its an area they avoid with others too. Some actually seek out married people as they are less likley to be clingy. What you will find with married women is people often turn a blind eye as bi females playing alone are not that easy to find. I commend you on your honesty, I don't know your personal situation and necessarily agree with it but neither do I have the right to condemn you so won't. I would point out airing it in a public forum could bring you some unwanted or called for vitriol. | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " No ... cheating is cheating and not right or funny for the one being cheated on no matter which one is doing the cheating. Sometimes it would be easuer for us to say bugger it and only meet marrieds as they are generally not going to get clingy. but we can't as we personally think its wrong to be doing anything behind your partners back.. that goes for everything not just sex. But pretty sure on Tv the other day they mentioned websites just for married but cheating so thats all thats on there so probably get no problems on those. | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice The reality is its the same for females and males some find cheating makes them uncomfortable as they have been in a relationship that went that way. Others often couples are not 100% secure in their relationship so its an area they avoid with others too. Some actually seek out married people as they are less likley to be clingy. What you will find with married women is people often turn a blind eye as bi females playing alone are not that easy to find. I commend you on your honesty, I don't know your personal situation and necessarily agree with it but neither do I have the right to condemn you so won't. I would point out airing it in a public forum could bring you some unwanted or called for vitriol. " Thk you for your quote I agree with you I no I will get stick for it if I have offend ppl I am sorry what I am doing is wrong I know just want to fine out if married men have any luck on here | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " Dear OP please may I ask you this question: If your mind tells you that you must seek extra sex out of your marital life, what does your heart tell you about the relationship you are in? I am a very fortunate man who has the most amazing wife in his heart. We talk about everything and anything and we express and talk about our desires. If we couldn't be open, honest and truthful with each other,then personally I feel the relationship is dead. So OP may I also ask you how you would feel if your wife felt that she needed to seek extra desires without telling you and would you feel wonderful about it? Please do not take this reply as having a go at anyone, it's just my thought and the way I perceive the question that was asked. All have a great day and enjoy the life and fun you seek | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? Dear OP please may I ask you this question: If your mind tells you that you must seek extra sex out of your marital life, what does your heart tell you about the relationship you are in? I am a very fortunate man who has the most amazing wife in his heart. We talk about everything and anything and we express and talk about our desires. If we couldn't be open, honest and truthful with each other,then personally I feel the relationship is dead. So OP may I also ask you how you would feel if your wife felt that she needed to seek extra desires without telling you and would you feel wonderful about it? Please do not take this reply as having a go at anyone, it's just my thought and the way I perceive the question that was asked. All have a great day and enjoy the life and fun you seek " Dear sir I am totally ok with your reply if I did find out she was having an affair then we could talk and be on this site together but I know it's not good what I seek but the way it's going I won't end up meeting anyone anyway lol And you have a grt day too | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " fair play to you for being honest. Most people wouldn't say anything. whilst i understand the comments about the validity of OPs relationship, im not sure its anyone's place to make judgements | |||
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"Yes married man looking for discreet fun love my wife and family bit because of her stressful job she has lost interest in sex for the time being so looking to spice up sex life with married female in the same position yes find it a struggle " try making you profile a bit longer, see what other men put on theirs for ideas. add more pics maybe, go on cam and chat to people. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? Dear OP please may I ask you this question: If your mind tells you that you must seek extra sex out of your marital life, what does your heart tell you about the relationship you are in? I am a very fortunate man who has the most amazing wife in his heart. We talk about everything and anything and we express and talk about our desires. If we couldn't be open, honest and truthful with each other,then personally I feel the relationship is dead. So OP may I also ask you how you would feel if your wife felt that she needed to seek extra desires without telling you and would you feel wonderful about it? Please do not take this reply as having a go at anyone, it's just my thought and the way I perceive the question that was asked. All have a great day and enjoy the life and fun you seek Dear sir I am totally ok with your reply if I did find out she was having an affair then we could talk and be on this site together but I know it's not good what I seek but the way it's going I won't end up meeting anyone anyway lol And you have a grt day too " I think you missed the point there. The question is the reverse of you cheating, your wife would be angry if she found out therefore you should be angry if you found out she was cheating on you not "oh let's join a swinging site then". You are only on here because you aren't getting any at home not because you necessarily want to be a swinger | |||
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"I not moaning Hun it's just what I have seen and heard chuck sorry if I offend " OP! You cannot win this one. Like myself, you have made it clear in your profile that you are married and that in itself is commendable. Do not take it to heart, and try not to let anyone get to you. A lot of people on this site are there just to provoke a reaction...very sad life they must have. Have fun, believe me there are plenty of nice women on this site who will enjoy meeting with you - married or not. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? You will find a lot are not honest as there are so many haters on here. Funnily enough the same haters have no problem meeting a married bi woman. " | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? You will find a lot are not honest as there are so many haters on here. Funnily enough the same haters have no problem meeting a married bi woman. " Yep! | |||
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"I was messaged the other day by a lady looking to meet. I never said I would meet, but I considered it right up to the point when she said her husband doesnt know. That killed it dead. I dont need or want the hassle. If you reverse that. Its probably why its such a problem. If her husband had known it might have been a possibility. I say might because im picky and I know whay I want. Ben" In the situation you describe, the woman may have thought twice about contacting you if you had made it clear in your profile that you do not meet married women. This is why the first thing I say to someone I contact after Hi, how are you is...I am married, will it be a problem? Saves a lot of wasted time, effort and disappointment. So far no men have openly said it was...I wonder why! | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " People who have commitments both male and female can let you down at short notice. Having a partner that's not aware is a huge commitment so the chances of being let down are far higher. For us we like reliability so we tend to go for genuine sidles but in reality you only know what people tell you. | |||
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"Tbf at least the op is honest about it. " | |||
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"I not moaning Hun it's just what I have seen and heard chuck sorry if I offend OP! You cannot win this one. Like myself, you have made it clear in your profile that you are married and that in itself is commendable. Do not take it to heart, and try not to let anyone get to you. A lot of people on this site are there just to provoke a reaction...very sad life they must have. Have fun, believe me there are plenty of nice women on this site who will enjoy meeting with you - married or not." So if people have compassion and don't want to cause upset to others or don't want the hassle if the partner finds out.. Then they are trying to cause a reaction and have sad lifes?? Seriously?? The irony is outstanding, surely those who need to look elsewhere are doing so cos they have sad lives? Lol Oh and I don't care what sex a cheater is.. A cheater is a cheater As for the whole judemental thing.. Its hardly judgemental to know the actions caused through cheating! Its a fact that its hurtful, disrespectful and very selfish.. Not judgemental | |||
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"Hmmmm Not to seam rude,but why sould it matter if the male or female is married or in a relationship? I personly think that if you are looking for someone to join a couple then all you need the single person for is a sexual thing,not a relationship? Also as said on here already if the person is married or in a relationship then there is very little chance of them becomeing clingy and you can almost guarantee absolute discretion and safe sex Not eveyones opinion I'm sure but it is mine lol " Its very simple.. People come here for NSA that means no falling in love and no hassles! Hardly hassle free if a cheated on partner finds out! And many have stories to tell about that let me tell u.. So no strings = no hassles | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " Dont tell people your married. Problem solved lol | |||
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"Hmmmm Not to seam rude,but why sould it matter if the male or female is married or in a relationship? I personly think that if you are looking for someone to join a couple then all you need the single person for is a sexual thing,not a relationship? Also as said on here already if the person is married or in a relationship then there is very little chance of them becomeing clingy and you can almost guarantee absolute discretion and safe sex Not eveyones opinion I'm sure but it is mine lol Its very simple.. People come here for NSA that means no falling in love and no hassles! Hardly hassle free if a cheated on partner finds out! And many have stories to tell about that let me tell u.. So no strings = no hassles" Agree I have had 3 or 4 calls from crazy upset partners in the last few years its a pain to deal with I used to lie now I just say ask him and hang up | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " Married men are a safe bet for NSA but a lot spoil it by being desperate n mail woman too much .. Each to there own I say .. But its your private status and isnt relevant unless asked and then you decide to openly admit it !! I never had a problem with married men but learnt the hard way ( met a nice one n we get on too well ) and won't get involved with one again .. Good luck | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? Married men are a safe bet for NSA but a lot spoil it by being desperate n mail woman too much .. Each to there own I say .. But its your private status and isnt relevant unless asked and then you decide to openly admit it !! I never had a problem with married men but learnt the hard way ( met a nice one n we get on too well ) and won't get involved with one again .. Good luck " how on earth are they a safe bet for NSa.. surely strings is more than just feelings? its hassle and trouble.. try reading the post above u! | |||
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"I personally don't mind meeting married men, in many ways its better for me as they aren't going to get all clingy and attached the way that some single guys do and have." I've always thought this. I'm married but have full permission from my wife to play alone. It still doesn't make it any easier to get a meet. Everyone has there own reasons to meet married people or not. I just move on to the next person that DOES want to just have some NSA fun. I've met some lovely people on here & we've openly talked about my relationship & why I play alone. To the OP, I've been cheated on, it hurt like f**k. 2nd marriage & honesty is certainly the best policy. Speak to your wife, you may find out that she would like to join in. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? Married men are a safe bet for NSA but a lot spoil it by being desperate n mail woman too much .. Each to there own I say .. But its your private status and isnt relevant unless asked and then you decide to openly admit it !! I never had a problem with married men but learnt the hard way ( met a nice one n we get on too well ) and won't get involved with one again .. Good luck how on earth are they a safe bet for NSa.. surely strings is more than just feelings? its hassle and trouble.. try reading the post above u!" Depends what they want if it's a one off it is NSA but if it becomes regular that opens up a huge list of disasters | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? Married men are a safe bet for NSA but a lot spoil it by being desperate n mail woman too much .. Each to there own I say .. But its your private status and isnt relevant unless asked and then you decide to openly admit it !! I never had a problem with married men but learnt the hard way ( met a nice one n we get on too well ) and won't get involved with one again .. Good luck how on earth are they a safe bet for NSa.. surely strings is more than just feelings? its hassle and trouble.. try reading the post above u! Depends what they want if it's a one off it is NSA but if it becomes regular that opens up a huge list of disasters" Even with a one off there is a chance of comeback so not really NSA. Same as other people have said cheating has nothing to do with swinging and is actually the complete opposite of what swinging should be about. People who knowingly play with some one who is in a relationship are just as bad as the cheater. So no we don't play with married people male or female | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " I avoid married men. Apart from the moral aspect, they tend to cancel A LOT! Things crop up, kids need looking after, wife wants to go out, in-laws visiting, etc. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? I avoid married men. Apart from the moral aspect, they tend to cancel A LOT! Things crop up, kids need looking after, wife wants to go out, in-laws visiting, etc." Yes I agree x | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? I avoid married men. Apart from the moral aspect, they tend to cancel A LOT! Things crop up, kids need looking after, wife wants to go out, in-laws visiting, etc." My wife is the baby sitter! I can even do short notice meets. Problem is, I'm seen as the majority of married men, cheat & unreliable | |||
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" Everyone has a reason for doing what they do if its not for you don't judge just pass on by! " This | |||
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" Everyone has a reason for doing what they do if its not for you don't judge just pass on by! This " | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? I avoid married men. Apart from the moral aspect, they tend to cancel A LOT! Things crop up, kids need looking after, wife wants to go out, in-laws visiting, etc." Bloody right! | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " What you'll find is married women get on with it and don't seek to justify their shannanigans: married men however start threads! | |||
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"I find that married men are more reliable. I've had too many singletons want to be exclusive and become a couple which is not what I want. Married guys don't tend to ask that or want it. Don't deliberately look for them though. Everyone has a reason for doing what they do if its not for you don't judge just pass on by! " I agree with this. Married guys do not tend to be clingy, so that bit is positive. The moral aspect is something else. I have been both sides of the fence there and it's not nice. | |||
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"I was messaged the other day by a lady looking to meet. I never said I would meet, but I considered it right up to the point when she said her husband doesnt know. That killed it dead. I dont need or want the hassle. If you reverse that. Its probably why its such a problem. If her husband had known it might have been a possibility. I say might because im picky and I know whay I want. Ben In the situation you describe, the woman may have thought twice about contacting you if you had made it clear in your profile that you do not meet married women. This is why the first thing I say to someone I contact after Hi, how are you is...I am married, will it be a problem? Saves a lot of wasted time, effort and disappointment. So far no men have openly said it was...I wonder why!" When visible my profile says no married men, doesn't stop them contacting me though. I don't play with married men now as they don't suit how I play. I don't invite anyone into my home who can't/wont invite me into theirs. Also I'm not having someone come in my house and tell me not to wear perfume, not to mark them etc, no fun for me, why would I meet?!! Nah!!! | |||
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" Everyone has a reason for doing what they do if its not for you don't judge just pass on by! This " Likewise married people, if someone has "no married or attached" on their profile don't pester, move on to those who don't care! | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " just taken this bit from your profile... "I always treat ladies with respect" that obviously doesn't include the one you profess to love more than any other...... warped sense of "respect" then..... | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 13/05/13 19:22:32] I would like to nominate you as the biggest green arrow user. Please accept the Miss Marple Green Arrow award " I have been here a long time and never knew about the green arrow!! So yes, please accept your award! | |||
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"One of the many problems with cheats is that if they happily lie to their partner's then how can you trust a word they say. And few liars are anything other than selfish, usually very selfish and desperately trying to justify their actions usually with more lies. According to the green arrow just 2 weeks ago the OP had a broken heart. And plenty of people gave heart felt advice. Yet on the face of it is far from being broken hearted. So OP a sincere question, what was that thread about if not another lie to garner sympathy and presumably hopefully a shag? So you lie to your partner, you lie on the forums and people wonder why cheats who seek vindication are judged and generally held in contempt bymany on here?" all i have to say to that is.. "the prosecution rests.... your witness the defence!!! "........ now this reply I would be interested in hearing this rebuttal.. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? You will find a lot are not honest as there are so many haters on here. Funnily enough the same haters have no problem meeting a married bi woman. " Bravo! 100% correct | |||
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"I had seen a lovely guy about three times who said he was a single dad, wife in some kind of end of life unit. Oh I did have great fun when I bumped into him, his wife and kids in Asda. What pleasure following him round the supermarket and not saying a word" What an arse eh!! | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? You will find a lot are not honest as there are so many haters on here. Funnily enough the same haters have no problem meeting a married bi woman. Bravo! 100% correct " I'm a married bi woman who meets couples alone on occasion....however that doesn't make me a married bi woman who is cheating. | |||
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"One of the many problems with cheats is that if they happily lie to their partner's then how can you trust a word they say. And few liars are anything other than selfish, usually very selfish and desperately trying to justify their actions usually with more lies. According to the green arrow just 2 weeks ago the OP had a broken heart. And plenty of people gave heart felt advice. Yet on the face of it is far from being broken hearted. So OP a sincere question, what was that thread about if not another lie to garner sympathy and presumably hopefully a shag? So you lie to your partner, you lie on the forums and people wonder why cheats who seek vindication are judged and generally held in contempt bymany on here?" perhaps he had a regular person he nmet who he had strong feeling for and they ended things. Just because it wasnt his wife that roke his heart doesnt mean it wasnt broken at all. sometimes in life things are not black and white. I am not talking about the reasons why he is cheating, i am not interested in that, but it is possible to love more than one person at a time. | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " Totally agree with this statement, it's ok for woman and nothing said but as a man we get so much stick... | |||
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"A cheat is a cheat, regardless of gender or circumstances, IMHO. " It doesn't seem to matter how many people say this, the cheaters don't listen and I wander if its a way they try and justify their actions to themselves | |||
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"A cheat is a cheat, regardless of gender or circumstances, IMHO. " Agreed, but I do agree that the married women on here get a much easier time than the married men. | |||
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"We only meet married men if they promise to bring their wife along. " That's fine. But only so long as they don't promise to bring her along AFTER the first meet! | |||
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"A cheat is a cheat, regardless of gender or circumstances, IMHO. Agreed, but I do agree that the married women on here get a much easier time than the married men. " Proberly cos men have a more lax approach towards it. Also they don't start threads on it | |||
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"I had seen a lovely guy about three times who said he was a single dad, wife in some kind of end of life unit. Oh I did have great fun when I bumped into him, his wife and kids in Asda. What pleasure following him round the supermarket and not saying a word" Really ? Why stalk him? | |||
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"A cheat is a cheat, regardless of gender or circumstances, IMHO. Agreed, but I do agree that the married women on here get a much easier time than the married men. Proberly cos men have a more lax approach towards it. Also they don't start threads on it" I disagree, I've seen some women start threads on it and boast about it, makes my skin crawl having been on the receiving end of being cheated on. But that's just the way life is | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " Do you believe it would be easier if you were single? Everyone struggles to find something that suits them... Some just dont struggle for long... | |||
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"What about couples??? If they meet another couple and swap partners is that not classed as cheating then???? " Nope...Thats an agreed situation, no cheating required | |||
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"What about couples??? If they meet another couple and swap partners is that not classed as cheating then???? Nope...Thats an agreed situation, no cheating required " and married men cant have an "agreed situation" without their wives being on here with them???? | |||
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"What about couples??? If they meet another couple and swap partners is that not classed as cheating then???? Nope...Thats an agreed situation, no cheating required and married men cant have an "agreed situation" without their wives being on here with them???? " Then they not a couple meeting other couples.... | |||
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"People are people at the end of the day and nothing anyone says will stop them doing what they do......... Choose to meet them or not......... They know the risks they are taking....... It's easy to say I'd never do that, but until you walk in someone's shoes for long enough, how can you really say what you'd do ? So easy to say if you are not happy in a relationship then end it, but not always easy to do in every circumstance. If you don't like, don't meet." Hhmm. I kind of agree with what you've said. But it doesn't make cheating any less vile. | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " I'm not a married man n I'm veering slightly off kilter from the question in yr post here but yesterday I pulled in2 a local notorious hook up spot n yet again was struck by the vast number of married men dropping in, parking up and engaging in consensual m/m sex activities u altho doubtless they would probably have preferred access to a pussy | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? I'm not a married man n I'm veering slightly off kilter from the question in yr post here but yesterday I pulled in2 a local notorious hook up spot n yet again was struck by the vast number of married men dropping in, parking up and engaging in consensual m/m sex activities u altho doubtless they would probably have preferred access to a pussy " And this is one example of why bi and gay men are categorised as being higher risk | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? I'm not a married man n I'm veering slightly off kilter from the question in yr post here but yesterday I pulled in2 a local notorious hook up spot n yet again was struck by the vast number of married men dropping in, parking up and engaging in consensual m/m sex activities u altho doubtless they would probably have preferred access to a pussy And this is one example of why bi and gay men are categorised as being higher risk " The point I was endeavouring to elucidate is that virtually all those men would vehemently deny they were bi if challenged in the 'vanilla' world. Obviously their wives will be ignorant of their activities. In fact could YOU walk down a high street n pick out the totally straight from the bi?? Of course NOT | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " To be honest, HONESTY is important for us both. If you can't be honest with your wife who can you be honest with. That would go for single women as well. Deception or cheating has a nasty habit of biting you in the arse when you least expect it......... | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice To be honest, HONESTY is important for us both. If you can't be honest with your wife who can you be honest with. That would go for single women as well. Deception or cheating has a nasty habit of biting you in the arse when you least expect it......... " | |||
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"If someone wants to cheat its up to them" 120 | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? " We actually prefer married men as long as they are into our kink | |||
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"If someone wants to cheat its up to them 120" Is there a reason you quoted the first few words of my post or are you just letting us all know that you can count? | |||
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"If someone wants to cheat its up to them 120 Is there a reason you quoted the first few words of my post or are you just letting us all know that you can count?" I assume she's trying to get the thread to 175 and get it locked? | |||
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"Even in 2013 we still live in a world where soooo many other people want to imprint there faux morals on2 us! Let's face the fact 'society' tries to inculcate us that relationships should ONLY be one on one in a loving ongoing environment (not that personally I GIVE A TOSS for society's demarcations! ) Anything that is deviating from that foisted,perceived NORM would therefore make us ALL on here immoral. Obviously none of us give a rat's behind about that so I guess never was more apt the phrase 'let he who is without sin bla bla bla...... ' " I think those are some very valid points! | |||
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"Even in 2013 we still live in a world where soooo many other people want to imprint there faux morals on2 us! Let's face the fact 'society' tries to inculcate us that relationships should ONLY be one on one in a loving ongoing environment (not that personally I GIVE A TOSS for society's demarcations! ) Anything that is deviating from that foisted,perceived NORM would therefore make us ALL on here immoral. Obviously none of us give a rat's behind about that so I guess never was more apt the phrase 'let he who is without sin bla bla bla...... ' I think those are some very valid points! " I concur | |||
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"Married men .. Hmmm ... Thing is I am reluctant because I don't want them hiding their faces whilst out in public in case they are seen , which has happened , and find sneaking about not very exciting . .. I was cheated on by my ex when i was very ill and couldn't have a sexual relationship with him for nearly 4 yrs .Also during our marriage we had 5 children very close in age , long term breatfeeding etc which brings its own recipe for a flagging sex life . In hindsight I wish we had entered swinging then as I think although he would be having sex elsewhere , I would not perceive it as a threat that he was gonna run off and leave me whilst seriously ill and with young children . I would have been happy that, although I couldn't be intimate with him , someone else could be. The pressure to be intimate at the time of my illness was suffocating and put us under a lot of strain. However when I fully recovered I found my libido had returned , then it was me who suggested to have an open marriage . However due to all the disharmony , anger etc caused over the years from him towards me because I couldn't be a proper wife in the end , destroyed our marriage and the way I see him now .. I just have no sexual feelings towards him anymore , although I still very fond of him. However although I now play alone and no longer intimate with him , he is able to play with whoever he wants . And we continue to live under same roof , separate beds , to avoid breaking up the family home with 5 young children . So seeing things from both sides , I can understand why married peeps play away esp if the other half is ill or disinterested . I think the divorce rate could be halved if permission was given so either party can play away without the threat of leaving the marriage and swopping one domestic disaster for another " very true, however the one biggest thing missing from alot of relationships and the cause of so much upset and heartbreak is alot of couples (not swinging couples thats what they do do) is open conversation about everything. Thats the key, it maybe if alot of the marrieds going behind others back on here (not all) were to have open honest conversations with other halfs about everything especially their sex life or desires then there would be alot more couples joining as well as alot more being allowed to play. In all honesty its more than likely as long as taking precautions so as to not expose the partner at home to anything nasty, not the sex thats the problem, its the lies. If its done openly with full knowledge and permission then there shouldnt be a problem. | |||
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"Married men .. Hmmm ... Thing is I am reluctant because I don't want them hiding their faces whilst out in public in case they are seen , which has happened , and find sneaking about not very exciting . .. I was cheated on by my ex when i was very ill and couldn't have a sexual relationship with him for nearly 4 yrs .Also during our marriage we had 5 children very close in age , long term breatfeeding etc which brings its own recipe for a flagging sex life . In hindsight I wish we had entered swinging then as I think although he would be having sex elsewhere , I would not perceive it as a threat that he was gonna run off and leave me whilst seriously ill and with young children . I would have been happy that, although I couldn't be intimate with him , someone else could be. The pressure to be intimate at the time of my illness was suffocating and put us under a lot of strain. However when I fully recovered I found my libido had returned , then it was me who suggested to have an open marriage . However due to all the disharmony , anger etc caused over the years from him towards me because I couldn't be a proper wife in the end , destroyed our marriage and the way I see him now .. I just have no sexual feelings towards him anymore , although I still very fond of him. However although I now play alone and no longer intimate with him , he is able to play with whoever he wants . And we continue to live under same roof , separate beds , to avoid breaking up the family home with 5 young children . So seeing things from both sides , I can understand why married peeps play away esp if the other half is ill or disinterested . I think the divorce rate could be halved if permission was given so either party can play away without the threat of leaving the marriage and swopping one domestic disaster for another very true, however the one biggest thing missing from alot of relationships and the cause of so much upset and heartbreak is alot of couples (not swinging couples thats what they do do) is open conversation about everything. Thats the key, it maybe if alot of the marrieds going behind others back on here (not all) were to have open honest conversations with other halfs about everything especially their sex life or desires then there would be alot more couples joining as well as alot more being allowed to play. In all honesty its more than likely as long as taking precautions so as to not expose the partner at home to anything nasty, not the sex thats the problem, its the lies. If its done openly with full knowledge and permission then there shouldnt be a problem." Hmmmmmmm I'm not sure things would truly pan out that way. We can encounter bigoted moralizing people on here n I suspect there's an even higher percentage out in the vanilla world. I've never been married or sired children but it would not be disproportionate to assume that many married men who 'play ' are not looking to exchange the bonds they share with a 'partner' , children and extended family members for the occasional random bonk with strangers. The crux of the situation is that if married men (or women) wish to 'play away ' it's none of our business only in so far as you can choose to decline to meet them if that is your personal preference. It is the 'holier than thou' attitude that a percentage of other people adopt that I find distasteful (but then what do I know lol! ) | |||
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"Married men .. Hmmm ... Thing is I am reluctant because I don't want them hiding their faces whilst out in public in case they are seen , which has happened , and find sneaking about not very exciting . .. I was cheated on by my ex when i was very ill and couldn't have a sexual relationship with him for nearly 4 yrs .Also during our marriage we had 5 children very close in age , long term breatfeeding etc which brings its own recipe for a flagging sex life . In hindsight I wish we had entered swinging then as I think although he would be having sex elsewhere , I would not perceive it as a threat that he was gonna run off and leave me whilst seriously ill and with young children . I would have been happy that, although I couldn't be intimate with him , someone else could be. The pressure to be intimate at the time of my illness was suffocating and put us under a lot of strain. However when I fully recovered I found my libido had returned , then it was me who suggested to have an open marriage . However due to all the disharmony , anger etc caused over the years from him towards me because I couldn't be a proper wife in the end , destroyed our marriage and the way I see him now .. I just have no sexual feelings towards him anymore , although I still very fond of him. However although I now play alone and no longer intimate with him , he is able to play with whoever he wants . And we continue to live under same roof , separate beds , to avoid breaking up the family home with 5 young children . So seeing things from both sides , I can understand why married peeps play away esp if the other half is ill or disinterested . I think the divorce rate could be halved if permission was given so either party can play away without the threat of leaving the marriage and swopping one domestic disaster for another very true, however the one biggest thing missing from alot of relationships and the cause of so much upset and heartbreak is alot of couples (not swinging couples thats what they do do) is open conversation about everything. Thats the key, it maybe if alot of the marrieds going behind others back on here (not all) were to have open honest conversations with other halfs about everything especially their sex life or desires then there would be alot more couples joining as well as alot more being allowed to play. In all honesty its more than likely as long as taking precautions so as to not expose the partner at home to anything nasty, not the sex thats the problem, its the lies. If its done openly with full knowledge and permission then there shouldnt be a problem." Hmmmmmmm I'm not sure things would truly pan out that way. We can encounter bigoted moralizing people on here n I suspect there's an even higher percentage out in the vanilla world. I've never been married or sired children but it would not be disproportionate to assume that many married men who 'play ' are not looking to exchange the bonds they share with a 'partner' , children and extended family members for the occasional random bonk with strangers. The crux of the situation is that if married men (or women) wish to 'play away ' it's none of our business only in so far as you can choose to decline to meet them if that is your personal preference. It is the 'holier than thou' attitude that a percentage of other people adopt that I find distasteful (but then what do I know lol! ) | |||
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"So what if married men/women are on here cheating!!! And its not surprising they lie about it when you read threads like this... " cos quite simply, some people dont want to meet cheaters, just as they dont want to meet certain ages, colour of skin or sexuality.. | |||
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"So what if married men/women are on here cheating!!! And its not surprising they lie about it when you read threads like this... cos quite simply, some people dont want to meet cheaters, just as they dont want to meet certain ages, colour of skin or sexuality.. " So dont meet them..... | |||
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"again buttering it up in any different way seen on this thread doesnt make it any less of a vile, disgusting, selfish act and it still has no place on a swinging site, swinging and cheating are total opposite things." I think you will find that cheats can, and do, indulge in swinging.....and have done so for many years. With that in mind they clearly have a place in swinging, because they are active swingers. | |||
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"So what if married men/women are on here cheating!!! And its not surprising they lie about it when you read threads like this... " they shouldnt be on here its a swinging site not a cheating site, and they are one of the reasons real genuine decent single men on here struggle to get meets, cheating is wrong in everyway and has no place here. | |||
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"So what if married men/women are on here cheating!!! And its not surprising they lie about it when you read threads like this... they shouldnt be on here its a swinging site not a cheating site, and they are one of the reasons real genuine decent single men on here struggle to get meets, cheating is wrong in everyway and has no place here." Everyone's a critic lol | |||
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"So what if married men/women are on here cheating!!! And its not surprising they lie about it when you read threads like this... they shouldnt be on here its a swinging site not a cheating site, and they are one of the reasons real genuine decent single men on here struggle to get meets, cheating is wrong in everyway and has no place here." Everyone's a critic lol | |||
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"again buttering it up in any different way seen on this thread doesnt make it any less of a vile, disgusting, selfish act and it still has no place on a swinging site, swinging and cheating are total opposite things. I think you will find that cheats can, and do, indulge in swinging.....and have done so for many years. With that in mind they clearly have a place in swinging, because they are active swingers." I disagree... they are active cheats on a swinging site... there is a difference. | |||
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"again buttering it up in any different way seen on this thread doesnt make it any less of a vile, disgusting, selfish act and it still has no place on a swinging site, swinging and cheating are total opposite things. I think you will find that cheats can, and do, indulge in swinging.....and have done so for many years. With that in mind they clearly have a place in swinging, because they are active swingers. I disagree... they are active cheats on a swinging site... there is a difference." I don't agree with people cheating, but it's nonsense for anyone to suggest that they shouldn't be permitted to join sites like this and participate. It's for every individual member to choose whether or not to (knowingly) meet up with cheating partners, it's easy enough to say no to any person who wants to meet you. | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice " I think you find that men will fuck almost any woman married or not, whilst women tend to put themselves in the place of the "other woman". | |||
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"again buttering it up in any different way seen on this thread doesnt make it any less of a vile, disgusting, selfish act and it still has no place on a swinging site, swinging and cheating are total opposite things. I think you will find that cheats can, and do, indulge in swinging.....and have done so for many years. With that in mind they clearly have a place in swinging, because they are active swingers. I disagree... they are active cheats on a swinging site... there is a difference. I don't agree with people cheating, but it's nonsense for anyone to suggest that they shouldn't be permitted to join sites like this and participate. It's for every individual member to choose whether or not to (knowingly) meet up with cheating partners, it's easy enough to say no to any person who wants to meet you." I wouldn't go as far as saying cheats should not be permitted to join Fabs... though it does piss me off when they complain about not being welcomed with open arms, as if swinging means any and all morals should go out of the window. There are plenty of networking/contact sites specifically for people who want to cheat... I would expect them to be welcomed with open arms (or even legs) there. If cheats don't want to hear my opinion on their cuntish behaviour, they should refrain from implying I don't have the right to uphold my values just because I have an account on here. | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice I think you find that men will fuck almost any woman married or not, whilst women tend to put themselves in the place of the "other woman"." Sweeping generalisations: much! | |||
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"I totally agree, someone who is cheating can hardly complain when people choose not to meet them...." I'm a swinger with morals, and believe there is a world of difference between swinging and cheating as swinging requires honesty and trust. As for being able to avoid them, that only works if they are honest and not all are. If I suspect someone is not being honest, simply asking for their home phone number usually sets a panic in, and then ooops I'm blocked | |||
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"Just wanted to see if any other married men find it a struggle on here ? You will find a lot are not honest as there are so many haters on here. Funnily enough the same haters have no problem meeting a married bi woman. " I make that right for sure | |||
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"No it's fine say what u got to say folks I have put in profile I am married I not going to lie about but it seems ok for a married women to cheat but not a man that is just what I have seem to notice wat makes you say that? Each time this is bought up people say they feel the same about either sex cheating. Its just the women rarely come on here moaning about how hard it is to cheat on their partner " They won't will they. They have what all the sad men on here want. So men care much less as there SOoOooO less fussy | |||
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"I totally agree, someone who is cheating can hardly complain when people choose not to meet them.... I'm a swinger with morals, and believe there is a world of difference between swinging and cheating as swinging requires honesty and trust. As for being able to avoid them, that only works if they are honest and not all are. If I suspect someone is not being honest, simply asking for their home phone number usually sets a panic in, and then ooops I'm blocked " I wouldn't dream of giving anyone on here my home number! You don't need to be Miss Marple to root out attached men, in fact you don't have to do anything at all: they out themselves. | |||
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"again buttering it up in any different way seen on this thread doesnt make it any less of a vile, disgusting, selfish act and it still has no place on a swinging site, swinging and cheating are total opposite things. I think you will find that cheats can, and do, indulge in swinging.....and have done so for many years. With that in mind they clearly have a place in swinging, because they are active swingers. I disagree... they are active cheats on a swinging site... there is a difference. I don't agree with people cheating, but it's nonsense for anyone to suggest that they shouldn't be permitted to join sites like this and participate. It's for every individual member to choose whether or not to (knowingly) meet up with cheating partners, it's easy enough to say no to any person who wants to meet you." how can you possibly say that and mean it, the reason there is no place in swinging for these spineless people is that its a total no win situation, yes if they say they are married and cheating then anyone with an ounce of sense will turn them away, however if they arent up front about it and then get caught out by there oh they dragging supposedly innocent party into there web of lies and world of cheating, how on earth can that be acceptable on a swinging site, that is not at all anything remotely to do with swinging therefore they have no place here. | |||
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"You obviously have never been through the pain of a divorce, to find out that the person you thought was your soul mate, the love of your life had been lying to you and also the expense of a divorce No way on earth would you even consider cheating/screwing around it cost me my life savings to be divorced from the idiot £10,000 hope you have the money as you dont have the backbone to be able to stop yourself f....ng looser " Nice to see the non judgemental crew are in tonight.... | |||
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"You obviously have never been through the pain of a divorce, to find out that the person you thought was your soul mate, the love of your life had been lying to you and also the expense of a divorce No way on earth would you even consider cheating/screwing around it cost me my life savings to be divorced from the idiot £10,000 hope you have the money as you dont have the backbone to be able to stop yourself f....ng looser " £10k?!! My divorce cost £400: did it myself. Oh come on: don't hold back! | |||
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"You obviously have never been through the pain of a divorce, to find out that the person you thought was your soul mate, the love of your life had been lying to you and also the expense of a divorce No way on earth would you even consider cheating/screwing around it cost me my life savings to be divorced from the idiot £10,000 hope you have the money as you dont have the backbone to be able to stop yourself f....ng looser Nice to see the non judgemental crew are in tonight.... " | |||
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"I saw the light on the night That I passed by her window I saw the flickering shadow of love on her blind. SHE was my woman As she deceived me i watched n went Out of my mind (altogether now! ) Why,why,why? Delilah My,my,my Delilah I could see that girl was no good for me But I was Locked like a slave that no man could free " | |||
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"You obviously have never been through the pain of a divorce, to find out that the person you thought was your soul mate, the love of your life had been lying to you and also the expense of a divorce No way on earth would you even consider cheating/screwing around it cost me my life savings to be divorced from the idiot £10,000 hope you have the money as you dont have the backbone to be able to stop yourself f....ng looser Nice to see the non judgemental crew are in tonight.... " I hear its lonely on time out | |||
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"I don't believe in sin... so pass me a bag of rocks and line the cheating feckers up!" and your all such angels! ha I don't thin so, I have known plenty of women over the years that did the cheating behind the guys back, these days I bet it is about 50/50 which sex is doing the cheating these days. | |||
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