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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. " So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are?" Context, Darling please. | |||
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"I saw a character in a book described as 'deeply human' on the dust jacket. It seemed to suggest that because the person had many flaws it made him somehow more human. Are there levels of 'human'?" Human and humane are both very different words: often intertwined and confused. | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are?" Depends on what "errors" means | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Context, Darling please. " The only context I have is what was written on the book jacket. The character was 'deeply human' because he was very flawed. That suggests to me that the more flawed you are the more deeply human you are. Personally I think it's nonsense | |||
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"I saw a character in a book described as 'deeply human' on the dust jacket. It seemed to suggest that because the person had many flaws it made him somehow more human. Are there levels of 'human'? Human and humane are both very different words: often intertwined and confused." Yes they are. I'm asking about 'human' | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means" If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Context, Darling please. The only context I have is what was written on the book jacket. The character was 'deeply human' because he was very flawed. That suggests to me that the more flawed you are the more deeply human you are. Personally I think it's nonsense" Humans are human. We are all different, and complex to varying degrees and we all have flaws. I know I’m flawed and I know most of them. Other people will identify flaws that I don’t know about but that’s what makes us complex. | |||
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"Flawed characteristics people can associate with/connect with." Might make that my profile text. | |||
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"I think it could've been said in the context of how characters can be written in certain books. Infallible, no flaws, protected by plot armour and I get why people enjoy that as a form of escapism in their reading. Maybe the term "deeply human" would allow certain people to relate more to the plot" I agree it's a description used to encourage people to relate more to one character than others but it suggests to me that they're somehow *more* human. Is that possible? | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Context, Darling please. The only context I have is what was written on the book jacket. The character was 'deeply human' because he was very flawed. That suggests to me that the more flawed you are the more deeply human you are. Personally I think it's nonsense" sounds Luke a cop out.. Sorry I treated you like shit etc it's because I'm very human and deeply flawed.. Nope, still a nob.. | |||
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"Flawed characteristics people can associate with/connect with." we're all deeply human then. | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Context, Darling please. The only context I have is what was written on the book jacket. The character was 'deeply human' because he was very flawed. That suggests to me that the more flawed you are the more deeply human you are. Personally I think it's nonsense sounds Luke a cop out.. Sorry I treated you like shit etc it's because I'm very human and deeply flawed.. Nope, still a nob.. "A 'deeply flawed human' I can accept. And yeah, I agree. | |||
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"I think it could've been said in the context of how characters can be written in certain books. Infallible, no flaws, protected by plot armour and I get why people enjoy that as a form of escapism in their reading. Maybe the term "deeply human" would allow certain people to relate more to the plot I agree it's a description used to encourage people to relate more to one character than others but it suggests to me that they're somehow *more* human. Is that possible?" Ahhh I see what you mean. I don't think it is possible as just because someone has more struggles and challenges to overcome, doesn't make them more human. I feel like we can see struggle as a badge of honour and while it can be admired seeing people overcome it, using it to bring others down kinda negates the heroism of it all | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors" IMO there are logical errors and there are moral errors. Logical error is when one wants something but does something that doesn't that doesn't allow him to achieve that. Like not exercising while wanting to be fit. Moral errors on the other hand are very subjective. It's about what one wants and how they judge between right and wrong. What's right for one may not be right for the other. Human flaws could fall under both categories. Moral errors are definitely a feature of humans. Logical errors are a bit nuanced. We obviously make less logical errors than animals and less errors make us humans. But we make more logical errors than robots. So I say we must stay somewhere in the middle ground here. | |||
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"Sounds like words for the sake... We want the back cover to have 100 words so they added some... But like your first story at school when ylu had to wrote a paragraph with 3 adjectives in it. It means whatever you want it to mean. " I think it's a hook to hang sympathy on. | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors IMO there are logical errors and there are moral errors. Logical error is when one wants something but does something that doesn't that doesn't allow him to achieve that. Like not exercising while wanting to be fit. Moral errors on the other hand are very subjective. It's about what one wants and how they judge between right and wrong. What's right for one may not be right for the other. Human flaws could fall under both categories. Moral errors are definitely a feature of humans. Logical errors are a bit nuanced. We obviously make less logical errors than animals and less errors make us humans. But we make more logical errors than robots. So I say we must stay somewhere in the middle ground here. " But does the type of error make you any more of less deeply human? | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors IMO there are logical errors and there are moral errors. Logical error is when one wants something but does something that doesn't that doesn't allow him to achieve that. Like not exercising while wanting to be fit. Moral errors on the other hand are very subjective. It's about what one wants and how they judge between right and wrong. What's right for one may not be right for the other. Human flaws could fall under both categories. Moral errors are definitely a feature of humans. Logical errors are a bit nuanced. We obviously make less logical errors than animals and less errors make us humans. But we make more logical errors than robots. So I say we must stay somewhere in the middle ground here. " That was deep. I actually can't respond much more intellectually than saying.. thank you. | |||
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"Leaving aside the physical / biological definition ..... What is a human? A human is someone who has lived a life, had experiences and bears the scars. They are self aware , having experienced their own vulnerabilities they become emotionally balanced and can understand and care about the plight of others. Juxtapose this with a person who is born and lived in gilded cage , protected all their life , experienced nothing of life, it's drawbacks , relationships and miss out on growing emotionally through challenging , character building experiences. They have lived a limiting , shallow life and whilst being human will not have developed socially or emotionally having not experienced suffering. When the dust cover says ' deeply human' it does not mean that the person is superior in any way or more human than another , it means they have experienced many aspects of life and many struggles and have as their essence the 'human experience' .. which I guess is emotional , physical , psychological , high times, low times... etc " I think that was more or less what Joe Beans was saying. Are there many 'gilded cage' type people I wonder | |||
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"There’s levels to this shit "So it would seem. | |||
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"Sounds like words for the sake... We want the back cover to have 100 words so they added some... But like your first story at school when ylu had to wrote a paragraph with 3 adjectives in it. It means whatever you want it to mean. I think it's a hook to hang sympathy on. " Sympathy or empathy? Or perhaps both? | |||
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"Deeply Human seems to be more widespread than the dust cover. After Googling it's used as a company term to claim they have 'deeply human' leadership ...... Here's the claim of one such initiative.... ‘We are a coaching company on a mission to transform the way we live, lead and work. XXXXXXXXXXXXX is a more Deeply Human world where our personal and professional lives are more fulfilling, our leaders more creative and connected and the organisations we work for more of a force for good on the inside and out.’ I X'd out the name of the company so as not to advertise. " Isn't it like human only for effect they add trump words for emphasis of just how much better their offering is... Bigly human making humans great again | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors IMO there are logical errors and there are moral errors. Logical error is when one wants something but does something that doesn't that doesn't allow him to achieve that. Like not exercising while wanting to be fit. Moral errors on the other hand are very subjective. It's about what one wants and how they judge between right and wrong. What's right for one may not be right for the other. Human flaws could fall under both categories. Moral errors are definitely a feature of humans. Logical errors are a bit nuanced. We obviously make less logical errors than animals and less errors make us humans. But we make more logical errors than robots. So I say we must stay somewhere in the middle ground here. But does the type of error make you any more of less deeply human?" Moral "errors", yes. Subjectivity is an important part of being human. If all of us believe in the same thing, world would be so boring and we would look like ants. | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? Depends on what "errors" means If to err is human I guess it means any and all errors IMO there are logical errors and there are moral errors. Logical error is when one wants something but does something that doesn't that doesn't allow him to achieve that. Like not exercising while wanting to be fit. Moral errors on the other hand are very subjective. It's about what one wants and how they judge between right and wrong. What's right for one may not be right for the other. Human flaws could fall under both categories. Moral errors are definitely a feature of humans. Logical errors are a bit nuanced. We obviously make less logical errors than animals and less errors make us humans. But we make more logical errors than robots. So I say we must stay somewhere in the middle ground here. That was deep. I actually can't respond much more intellectually than saying.. thank you." ❤️ | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be "It's interesting to ponder though don't you think? | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be
It's interesting to ponder though don't you think? "Certainly is. I often do but then it drives me to want more cake | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be
It's interesting to ponder though don't you think?
Certainly is. I often do but then it drives me to want more cake "This is true  | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be
It's interesting to ponder though don't you think?
Certainly is. I often do but then it drives me to want more cake
This is true "Which reminds me, don't forget to vote for your favourite dessert and other courses on the Fab menu. | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be
It's interesting to ponder though don't you think?
Certainly is. I often do but then it drives me to want more cake
This is true
Which reminds me, don't forget to vote for your favourite dessert and other courses on the Fab menu. "Ps. I tried to get them to add linguine one but ... | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are?" The fewer errors we repeat - that's what truly matters | |||
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"Too early for such deep thoughts but to me someoneone deeply human is about having humility, acting with integrity and compasion, be authentic. Your life and actions prioritise empathy, connections with others and being aware of their emotional and phychological needs and recognising the bonds that unite people. The way you do that may very and that is why there are lots of different philosophies out there from existentialists like Nietzsche to Sartr seeking meaning in life to humanists like Maslow who centre on potential, personal growth and imporyance of fostering posiyive connections. Dear me, this took me back to when I used to be much hungrier for knowledge than I am know or indeed want to be
It's interesting to ponder though don't you think?
Certainly is. I often do but then it drives me to want more cake
This is true
Which reminds me, don't forget to vote for your favourite dessert and other courses on the Fab menu.
Ps. I tried to get them to add linguine one but ... ". | |||
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"Well if "To err is human" I guess you could make the argument. So the fewer errors we make the less human we are? The fewer errors we repeat - that's what truly matters " Succinct but very true. | |||
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"Every cell, at every level in our bodyz is going to be human, deep and shallowz apart from the microbiome, so it doesn't stack up " No, it doesn't in my opinion but others differ which is a human trait in itself | |||
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"I'd count myself as barely human so I think there are some levels of humanity. Mrs " I've just seen you tell someone not to be so hard on themselves. That shows humanity. I say the same to you, don't be so hard on yourself | |||
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"I think it's on trend currently to be emotional, to give everybody duvet days, to weep at kittens, to use language that indicates that you are caring ...... Life tells me it's the same old shit beneath the veneer we just get cancelled for saying so or become cynical because we can see the hypocrisy of it. " That's a fantastically human observation, you are amazingly human | |||
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"I think it's on trend currently to be emotional, to give everybody duvet days, to weep at kittens, to use language that indicates that you are caring ...... Life tells me it's the same old shit beneath the veneer we just get cancelled for saying so or become cynical because we can see the hypocrisy of it. That's a fantastically human observation, you are amazingly human " Is that a few rungs up from deeply ? | |||
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"I'd count myself as barely human so I think there are some levels of humanity. Mrs I've just seen you tell someone not to be so hard on themselves. That shows humanity. I say the same to you, don't be so hard on yourself "This is where my humanity falters, I'm good at the advice just not to myself. Mrs | |||
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"I saw a character in a book described as 'deeply human' on the dust jacket. It seemed to suggest that because the person had many flaws it made him somehow more human. Are there levels of 'human'?" I think it is utterly meaningless. We are human or we are something non-human like an ant or a bee. There's such a variety of human charatcer, who is to judge what is deep and what, presumably, shallow? | |||
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"I think it's on trend currently to be emotional, to give everybody duvet days, to weep at kittens, to use language that indicates that you are caring ...... Life tells me it's the same old shit beneath the veneer we just get cancelled for saying so or become cynical because we can see the hypocrisy of it. That's a fantastically human observation, you are amazingly human Is that a few rungs up from deeply ? " The truly madly deeply human | |||
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