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"It very much depends on how the jealouse manifests and what the resulting behaviour is of the person who is jealous. At its worse it can be toxic coercive control. Jealous partners trying to control what their partner wears, who they see and talk to etc and can result in violent behaviour. I think jealousy comes from low self confidence and insecurity. " See to me, thatâs an extreme level of jealous; which essentially is abuse. I would agree in a lot of contexts; jealousy is due to low confidence, but not always. | |||
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"The only thing I'm jealous of is women having longer legs than me ![]() Jealousy of someone or something that person has, is surely slightly different to the feeling of jealousy a partner is making you feel, less about the other person and more about how they are behaving? Potentially all relevant. | |||
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"It's a natural human emotion that happens and like other human emotions it's important to not let them dominate us. Take anger for example: We all get angry from time to time, however if you are angry all the time and can't control it then it's a problem." Yeah, I think so too itâs how you channel that emotion that matters and that may be based on your instincts, I think for me is just get out fast I donât like how it makes me feel | |||
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"Iâd like to point out that this is JUST a thread.. I know how people like to gossipđ¤đđ" Gossip?! On fab?! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Iâd like to point out that this is JUST a thread.. I know how people like to gossipđ¤đđ Gossip?! On fab?! ![]() ![]() ![]() Youâd be surprised to hear it.. but yeah⌠gossip happens on fab!đ¤đ𤣠Jealousy and trust are probably very aligned. I think where I find difficulty in understanding the feeling is where their actions donât mix their feelings. I.e theyâre jealous of something doing something with another, that theyâre evidently doing themselves đ¤đ¤Ł! | |||
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"Jealousy is complex and often misunderstood, and letâs be fair, anyone who claims theyâve never felt it is probably lying. Itâs a natural response that can arise even in the most secure of people, but it isnât automatically toxic. When jealousy is handled with emotional maturity, empathy and honest communication, it can help reinforce relationships. It gives people the chance to talk openly about their needs, set or review boundaries, offer reassurance and or focus on what matters most in the partnership. Handled well, jealousy can become a tool for growth rather than destruction. But when itâs brushed aside, ignored or dealt with poorly, it can turn ugly very quickly. Whether itâs the person feeling jealous or the one responding to it, immaturity on either side can lead to insecurity, controlling behaviour, manipulation, threats and emotional coercion. Instead of building trust, it starts to erode it. Like any powerful feeling, itâs not the emption itself thatâs the problem, but how itâs managed. Handled with care, jealousy can bring people closer. Handled badly, it drives them apart. " I think itâs possible for ridiculously laid back people, who generally just donât think that way, to never have felt an urge of jealousy in their life. Potentially the situation has not arisen yet. But I agree, itâs very likely the majority of individuals have experienced it to certain levels, whether they are acutely aware of the feeling or choose to deny such, we will never know!đ I guess there is a fine line between setting boundaries and giving ultimatums.. I think the best relationships evidently have that down to a tee and thatâs why they work. Then comes the other levels of deliberate game playing and pettiness, which brings a whole different perspective to the jealousy thing. Itâs all relative, which is why I find the different responses so interesting đ | |||
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"I don't think it's unhealthy, no. It's a natural emotion that some feel more readily than others. There's nothing wrong with people feeling it - there's an incredibly unhealthy narrative that floats about that says if someone feels jealousy they aren't really a swinger or poly. Utter bollocks. You can feel an emotion, find out where it's coming from and work from there. Sometimes it's a sign that you don't feel like you're seen in a dynamic. Other times it's because you don't feel good in yourself. That's not to say it's always healthy. Of course not. It's nuanced like any emotion. I think if it's weaponised then it becomes incredibly unhealthy. I don't have time for that kind of thing. Or when people say they're very jealous if you have the audacity to even look at their "person" and yet it's fine for them to carry on doing whatever. Neither are behaviours I'm compatible with. I don't like when people try and present it as sexy. I had a lover who was insanely jealousy and apparently it's because I stirred that emotion in him, all *insert country name* are like that. And also... people have a tendency to say it's jealousy and really they're using it as an umbrella term. Or they'll say someone's jealous because they're unhappy with a person's crappy behaviour. Yeah all of that can get in the bin. But people feeling it? It's fine, it happens." Youâve nailed it in a lot of what you say! The whole hypocritical aspect in jealousy; is one of the most difficult to reflect on. The whole âdo as I say and not as I doâ mentality. Which I think some of us, do without even intentionally trying. Self awareness, reflection and growth is incredibly important especially when it comes to this natural feeling I think. | |||
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"Usually, I only real get the lighthearted FOMO kind of jealousy. If I know a partner is out doing something fun I know I'd enjoy and I'm stuck doing something tedious I'll get the odd little pang for sure. It's rare I feel that horrible encompassing kind of jealousy. And it's only really been with the people it turned out were manipulative deceitful little shits just out to provoke a reaction. So if I get really jealous now, I start looking for the red flags đ" Yeah, thatâs horrible, intentionally making you feel like shit.𼺠glad youâre out of that scenario now and realise your true worthâ¤ď¸ | |||
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"Your views on it Is it healthy? Is it not? What do you warrant to be behaviours of jealousy? Is it ever valid? Are some perhaps, hypocritical in their actions when it comes to jealousy? Letâs talk experiences. " Ahh... Jealousy...the green eyed Monster.. | |||
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"Jealousy is a perfectly normal feeling. We all feel it. How we handle it is the key. I don't run away from it. I try to rationalise why I'm feeling it. That helps. Menopause is a bitch though as I currently feel jealous of everyone and everything. That's hard to cope with and deal with rationally. I think I'm doing OK thoughđ" I canât even begin to imagine, thank fuck.. dreading it, however hormone imbalance and genuine things like that can excuse elements of behaviour, especially when youâre as self aware as you are.. â¤ď¸ hugs and a Dyson fan on full blast for those hot moments đĽ | |||
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"Jealousy is a perfectly normal feeling. We all feel it. How we handle it is the key. I don't run away from it. I try to rationalise why I'm feeling it. That helps. Menopause is a bitch though as I currently feel jealous of everyone and everything. That's hard to cope with and deal with rationally. I think I'm doing OK thoughđ I canât even begin to imagine, thank fuck.. dreading it, however hormone imbalance and genuine things like that can excuse elements of behaviour, especially when youâre as self aware as you are.. â¤ď¸ hugs and a Dyson fan on full blast for those hot moments đĽ " It's certainly an adjustment you have to make. My current state of mind is alien to me. I'm constantly apologising for acting out of character. Maybe this is the new me. I fucking hope not!!𤣠| |||
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"Jealousy is a reflection of your own lack of self esteme. The more jealous you are, the more insecure you are. Better to think, if it ends tomorrow its been good fun than feel any jealousy. Marrying a cheat tought me that much... " I think this is a very narrow minded mindsetđ! But each opinion is valid in their own right | |||
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"There are other forms of jealousy though. Sometimes I get a smile at those" đŻ | |||
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"There are other forms of jealousy though. Sometimes I get a smile at those" As in innocent forms? Or petty? Iâm lost and clearly a cynic if itâs not negative đ đ¤ | |||
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"Yeah all of that can get in the bin. But people feeling it? It's fine, it happens. Youâve nailed it in a lot of what you say! The whole hypocritical aspect in jealousy; is one of the most difficult to reflect on. The whole âdo as I say and not as I doâ mentality. Which I think some of us, do without even intentionally trying. Self awareness, reflection and growth is incredibly important especially when it comes to this natural feeling I think. " Oh definitely. I can be an utter 'mare for doing that at times - not surrounding jealousy but yes. Still do it. ![]() | |||
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"Well, tell me, do you think it'd be all right If I could just crash here tonight? You can see I'm in no shape for driving And anyway, I've got no place to go " Iâve not heard that song in ages! â¤ď¸ | |||
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"Your views on it Is it healthy? Is it not? What do you warrant to be behaviours of jealousy? Is it ever valid? Are some perhaps, hypocritical in their actions when it comes to jealousy? Letâs talk experiences. " I'm poly so jealousy is generally an indication that something is wrong and I need to communicate better with my partners. I don't necessarily see it as a positive. In most poly relationships isn't love. It's not an indication that your partner has done something wrong. It's an indication that you feel bad and need to talk to your partners to find out what isn't working. That said, there are a lot of couples in swinging who enjoy the 'stag/vixen' dynamic or 'positive jealousy' and enjoy the passion of reconnecting. | |||
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"Jealousy doesn't do no harm, it's how much of it you can handle because it can only come from within ones mind. " Not quite true. It definitely does. I've been on the receiving end of when it's become weaponised. When I was dating someone - one woman being jealous of photos taken together, subsequently lying to me. Another being upset because we went to a social together and then screaming at the person I was dating. I could carry on... I don't think someone being poly, a swinger, all of that... it doesnât exempt you from feeling things. But if you're making life for others unpleasant because of it, maybe take a step back and reflect on why. | |||
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" I also think it depends on the dynamics of the 2 people involved and what agreements/ boundaries were set initially ![]() đŻ. My daughter came to me recently with: 'Dad you understand women, I've fucked up with my gf, nothing happened, I don't understand why she's pissed off'. My response was: 'Hun it's 3am... put the kettle on. Firstly, I don't understand women, I know a bit about relationships. Secondly, Have you guys talked about your boundaries?' 'No not really.' Then that's probably what you have done wrong. The more important something is, the more important it is to talk about it with a partner and that's on both of you. I think it helped, she's all smiles again and she bought me a maccies breakfast, to say thank you. At least she understands men đ. | |||
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"Jealousy is horrible to feel, particularly physically, that twisting in your stomach and heaviness in your chest. I think anyone who says they donât get jealous isnât being honest with themselves. Despite that Iâve found jealousy really useful. Why am I feeling jealous? Am I feeling insecure? Do I need more time with someone? Is something missing that I can do something about? Seeing B with NRE recently made me realise that while I was happy for him, I needed to make more effort to pursue new connections myself. There have been other situations that I started to type about but decided not to over share đ but yes, jealousy has its place. Will you use what itâs telling you or just get bitter? đ¤ˇââď¸" I agree wholeheartedly with this. Especially the mindfulness to be able to to listen to what the emotion is telling you, where it is coming from then it empowers us to make a choice: sit and wallow in it or make a change. I find the process builds emotional resilience over time and whilst jealousy still isn't pleasant, I quite quickly think of the tale of the two wolves and smile, because I am about to have an opportunity to learn something about myself. I agree also, for me - 'I don't get jealous' - is something of a red flag. In the very least, we have such a different way of perceiving what it fundamentally means to be human attempting to have an intimate relationship is probably going to be very hard work for us. | |||
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"Jealousy is horrible to feel, particularly physically, that twisting in your stomach and heaviness in your chest. I think anyone who says they donât get jealous isnât being honest with themselves. Despite that Iâve found jealousy really useful. Why am I feeling jealous? Am I feeling insecure? Do I need more time with someone? Is something missing that I can do something about? Seeing B with NRE recently made me realise that while I was happy for him, I needed to make more effort to pursue new connections myself. There have been other situations that I started to type about but decided not to over share đ but yes, jealousy has its place. Will you use what itâs telling you or just get bitter? đ¤ˇââď¸ I agree wholeheartedly with this. Especially the mindfulness to be able to to listen to what the emotion is telling you, where it is coming from then it empowers us to make a choice: sit and wallow in it or make a change. I find the process builds emotional resilience over time and whilst jealousy still isn't pleasant, I quite quickly think of the tale of the two wolves and smile, because I am about to have an opportunity to learn something about myself. I agree also, for me - 'I don't get jealous' - is something of a red flag. In the very least, we have such a different way of perceiving what it fundamentally means to be human attempting to have an intimate relationship is probably going to be very hard work for us." Agree wholeheartedly with both of you. Compersion could be said to be the opposite of jealousy and Iâm not sure you can have one without sometimes experiencing the other. Itâs how itâs handled thatâs the big key issue | |||
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"I got jealous when someone other than me has a Rice Krispie square bar " Itâs if someone has a bigger slice of cheesecake for me! | |||
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"I got jealous when someone other than me has a Rice Krispie square bar " Everyone has their hard boundaries, for me it's Ribeye steak. That's why date vegetarians. | |||
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