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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff " Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. " Well they have bought a suspicious amount of baby oil 🧐 | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. Well they have bought a suspicious amount of baby oil 🧐" That reminds me of a small party we went to. The size of the bottle of lube on the coffee table made me  | |||
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"I mean the consent aspect is the issue here, if he'd been swinging with a bunch of other consenting adults there wouldn't be a case, unfortunately he was trafficking non consenting not adults across country for nefarious purposes, unless your last name is Epstein I doubt you have much to worry about" Or maxwell | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. Well they have bought a suspicious amount of baby oil 🧐 That reminds me of a small party we went to. The size of the bottle of lube on the coffee table made me "Was it like one of those magnum champagne bottles 😂 | |||
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"I mean the consent aspect is the issue here, if he'd been swinging with a bunch of other consenting adults there wouldn't be a case, unfortunately he was trafficking non consenting not adults across country for nefarious purposes, unless your last name is Epstein I doubt you have much to worry about Or maxwell" I guess we finally found where Prince Andy is hiding lol | |||
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"Consent is the key word here. " This. 💯% There is nothing at all wrong with anything done with full consent, openness and honesty. There is absolutely something wrong where consent isn't given by one party. Whether that's swinging, any sexual activity or sharing images of partners without their knowledge. | |||
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"I mean the consent aspect is the issue here, if he'd been swinging with a bunch of other consenting adults there wouldn't be a case, unfortunately he was trafficking non consenting not adults across country for nefarious purposes, unless your last name is Epstein I doubt you have much to worry about Or maxwell I guess we finally found where Prince Andy is hiding lol" Ha forgot about, great misdirection from the royal family making me forget about Andy | |||
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" consent "Nothing sexier on earth than enthusiastic repeated consent! | |||
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 ), I’m not getting the comparison of illegal behaviour and fully consenting adults engaging in legal activity . | |||
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"Am I a bit simple( alright, don’t al rush to answer that ), I’m not getting the comparison of illegal behaviour and fully consenting adults engaging in legal activity ."Nah mate me neither just bizarre post all round really lmao | |||
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"Consent is the key word here. " Absolutely right. Consenting adult fun shouldn't feel any way comparable to what's coming to light regarding diddy parties. | |||
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"I’m just glad Ken Dodd isn’t alive to see this, I’m sure he would find it most upsetting " Priceless! | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff " It was coerced with no consent……very different thing altogether. | |||
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"I mean the consent aspect is the issue here, if he'd been swinging with a bunch of other consenting adults there wouldn't be a case, unfortunately he was trafficking non consenting not adults across country for nefarious purposes, unless your last name is Epstein I doubt you have much to worry about" It is complex because she was actually ordering the sex workers herself, so I’m sure his defence will claim it was fully consensual but she is saying she felt like she couldn’t say no , whether that’s fair loyalty, awkwardness or combination of them which I’m sure does sometimes happen in swinging. Where you draw the line has complex got some people have taken one for the team myself included. | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. " Well a threesome with a guy and abit of voyeurism that's it. They definitely make it sound worse and highten it to be wrong than what it is | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff Is what you and your wife want to do in any way comparable? I hope not. Well a threesome with a guy and abit of voyeurism that's it. They definitely make it sound worse and highten it to be wrong than what it is" Attitudes and the definition for consent change over time. People like John Peel and Jimmy Saville, were actively operating as pedo’s why everybody watched , yet national hero’s….it’s not that people said nothing or did nothing it was just acceptable, same with drink driving, passive smoking & the sex parties on trial now. Same with d*unken sex which is technically r*pe in 2025. No doubt the things we do now and/or the way we do them will be locked on in a decade of two with disbelief., how could they have allowed it to happen they will say…. Without written consent signed by both parties in front of a witness. | |||
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"I mean the consent aspect is the issue here, if he'd been swinging with a bunch of other consenting adults there wouldn't be a case, unfortunately he was trafficking non consenting not adults across country for nefarious purposes, unless your last name is Epstein I doubt you have much to worry about It is complex because she was actually ordering the sex workers herself, so I’m sure his defence will claim it was fully consensual but she is saying she felt like she couldn’t say no , whether that’s fair loyalty, awkwardness or combination of them which I’m sure does sometimes happen in swinging. Where you draw the line has complex got some people have taken one for the team myself included." That's it. She did consent to some extent but she was worried he would hit her if she didn't do it so I guess it's a tough one but will see what happens | |||
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"^^ if you really can't differentiate between what you've just posted and people who swing as a couple after lengthy discussion and full agreement on all sides (I'm assuming that applies to you and your partner) then I think you're better off not doing it at all. It will only cause you grief and bad feelings " Haha I ain't offended by it I still wanna do it it's fun. She was in a abusive relationship. This probably wouldn't of even arised if he didn't beat her up and control her | |||
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"’Agreeing’ to participate in an activity after being beaten and coerced and being afraid to say no for fear of the consequences is not consent……not at all " Absolutely | |||
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"^^ if you really can't differentiate between what you've just posted and people who swing as a couple after lengthy discussion and full agreement on all sides (I'm assuming that applies to you and your partner) then I think you're better off not doing it at all. It will only cause you grief and bad feelings Haha I ain't offended by it I still wanna do it it's fun. She was in a abusive relationship. This probably wouldn't of even arised if he didn't beat her up and control her " Your partner was in an abusive relationship? | |||
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"^^ if you really can't differentiate between what you've just posted and people who swing as a couple after lengthy discussion and full agreement on all sides (I'm assuming that applies to you and your partner) then I think you're better off not doing it at all. It will only cause you grief and bad feelings Haha I ain't offended by it I still wanna do it it's fun. She was in a abusive relationship. This probably wouldn't of even arised if he didn't beat her up and control her Your partner was in an abusive relationship? " No? | |||
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"’Agreeing’ to participate in an activity after being beaten and coerced and being afraid to say no for fear of the consequences is not consent……not at all " This! Dear lord, 1000% this /end thread | |||
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"^^ if you really can't differentiate between what you've just posted and people who swing as a couple after lengthy discussion and full agreement on all sides (I'm assuming that applies to you and your partner) then I think you're better off not doing it at all. It will only cause you grief and bad feelings Haha I ain't offended by it I still wanna do it it's fun. She was in a abusive relationship. This probably wouldn't of even arised if he didn't beat her up and control her Your partner was in an abusive relationship? No? "I'm quite confused with this thread and am struggling to infer your opinion of swinging from it. Good luck to you and your partner whatever you decide | |||
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"So maybe wanting to watch your wife with other men is abit wrong? Me and wife was planning to meet a guy in summer but now I'm in 2 minds after reading this stuff " But are you planning on meeting Diddy? He’s under investigation, and if you listen and read the allegations, that’s why what he may have done seems wrong. Swingers, don’t seem to need as much baby oil.  | |||
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