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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay " Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them  | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them "Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know. P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them "Haha so witty and punny. Died of laughter | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Haha so witty and punny. Died of laughter "It was pretty funny | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them "🤣🤣 | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about " What are you implying? | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about " Think you're right mate They've done this with so many | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about " Quite touching that you think that. | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about Think you're right mate They've done this with so many " Who are 'they'? | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that."I know, hence my pessimistic last line... Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK. I hold optimism in that with the fact it's been announced and he's been charged they must have some evidence to back it up. | |||
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"Here we go ... Guilty by assumptions that what's been in the press is obviously always correct ... I'm no fan of the guy but non of us know the facts etc ... Plus, there always seems to be relish these days in taking pleasure from someone's misfortune... I'm sure there's plenty of people done similar or worse than he has and aren't in the public domain and haven't been caught out.... Non of us are saints ! " This^ (from an non-judgmental forum…   ) | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about Think you're right mate They've done this with so many Who are 'they'?" There’s been a few I absolutely hate Russell brand and always have but the government definitely wanted to silence him he had a massive audience and spoke about stuff that officials hated | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that.
I know, hence my pessimistic last line...
Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK.
I hold optimism in that with the fact it's been announced and he's been charged they must have some evidence to back it up."Of course they have some kind of evidence the CPS can't charge without it. | |||
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"I don't even know what he's done" Whatever it is it seems some men are happy to make excuses for him. He's not been found guilty of anything but excusing him is assuming he's guilty of something isn't it?  | |||
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" Non of us are saints ! " There's that and then there's being accused of r**e. Not quite the comparable thing to say there... | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay " I hope Netflix don't do a doc drama about it, the Labour party will want it shown in places of education.  | |||
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"I don't even know what he's done Whatever it is it seems some men are happy to make excuses for him. He's not been found guilty of anything but excusing him is assuming he's guilty of something isn't it? "Definitely. He's not been found guilty and has a right to defend himself as much as anyone else. But I just don't see it going to prosecution if he's not done it. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay I hope Netflix don't do a doc drama about it, the Labour party will want it shown in places of education. "Nope he was taken off the English curriculum a couple of years ago actually when allegations began! | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that.
I know, hence my pessimistic last line...
Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK.
I hold optimism in that with the fact it's been announced and he's been charged they must have some evidence to back it up."Is it the case that everyone charged by the cps is guilty then? | |||
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"I don't even know what he's done Whatever it is it seems some men are happy to make excuses for him. He's not been found guilty of anything but excusing him is assuming he's guilty of something isn't it?
Definitely. He's not been found guilty and has a right to defend himself as much as anyone else. But I just don't see it going to prosecution if he's not done it."So do you believe that only people that’s guilty are in prison ? | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about " Guess he must be in it too, if he's been engaging this range of womenz so that they'd make the complaints against him that they have 
How does this conspiracy work? What has he exposed that nobody else has? Not referring to his cock | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that.
I know, hence my pessimistic last line...
Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK.
I hold optimism in that with the fact it's been announced and he's been charged they must have some evidence to back it up.
Is it the case that everyone charged by the cps is guilty then? "No | |||
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"I don't even know what he's done Whatever it is it seems some men are happy to make excuses for him. He's not been found guilty of anything but excusing him is assuming he's guilty of something isn't it?
Definitely. He's not been found guilty and has a right to defend himself as much as anyone else. But I just don't see it going to prosecution if he's not done it.
So do you believe that only people that’s guilty are in prison ?"No | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts" He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America | |||
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"...what does that have to do with the government and podcasts" You need to be one of the tin foil hat mob to understand it. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. " I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America " and so now the government have set these r&pe charges up? Is that what's being said | |||
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"...what does that have to do with the government and podcasts You need to be one of the tin foil hat mob to understand it." I’m not into conspiracy theories but some of the stuff he highlighted you’d be silly to completely dismiss it | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America " I am going to call your bluff. I know nothing about him or his podcast. I have no idea whether he is innocent or guilty. What gets my interest is when people make multiple oblique references to "things the government don't want you to know" but then don't say what they are. Do us a public service and list the top 5 things that you think will make us "question" what the government has done. If you can then you win everyones undying gratitude for enlightening us. If you can't/won't then you get put in the tinfoil hat bucket. Your choice. | |||
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"...what does that have to do with the government and podcasts You need to be one of the tin foil hat mob to understand it. I’m not into conspiracy theories but some of the stuff he highlighted you’d be silly to completely dismiss it " Like...? | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America I am going to call your bluff. I know nothing about him or his podcast. I have no idea whether he is innocent or guilty. What gets my interest is when people make multiple oblique references to "things the government don't want you to know" but then don't say what they are. Do us a public service and list the top 5 things that you think will make us "question" what the government has done. If you can then you win everyone’s undying gratitude for enlightening us. If you can't/won't then you get put in the tinfoil hat bucket. Your choice." No because it’s nothing to do with here or my opinion someone asked a question and I answered it if anyone wants to look into it further I’m sure you’d find it somewhere on the internet I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America I am going to call your bluff. I know nothing about him or his podcast. I have no idea whether he is innocent or guilty. What gets my interest is when people make multiple oblique references to "things the government don't want you to know" but then don't say what they are. Do us a public service and list the top 5 things that you think will make us "question" what the government has done. If you can then you win everyone’s undying gratitude for enlightening us. If you can't/won't then you get put in the tinfoil hat bucket. Your choice. No because it’s nothing to do with here or my opinion someone asked a question and I answered it if anyone wants to look into it further I’m sure you’d find it somewhere on the internet I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things " Choice made. | |||
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"ok so I've got the jist that he's been charged with ra*pe but what does that have to do with the government and podcasts He had a podcast with millions of viewers and he spoke about stuff that the government didn’t like i can’t stand the guy but some of the stuff he spoke about and backed it up with evidence was enough to make people question certain things that had happened within our government and America I am going to call your bluff. I know nothing about him or his podcast. I have no idea whether he is innocent or guilty. What gets my interest is when people make multiple oblique references to "things the government don't want you to know" but then don't say what they are. Do us a public service and list the top 5 things that you think will make us "question" what the government has done. If you can then you win everyone’s undying gratitude for enlightening us. If you can't/won't then you get put in the tinfoil hat bucket. Your choice. No because it’s nothing to do with here or my opinion someone asked a question and I answered it if anyone wants to look into it further I’m sure you’d find it somewhere on the internet I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things " What did it make you question? Which tinfoil hat to wear? Or how to grift people? Nutter | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. " This.. When you look at some of the input you can see how some people are wrongly convicted.. | |||
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"... I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things " But what things? Can you give a link or particular episode at least of what it was that made you question what? I'm not listening to however many hours of rambling to find a supposedly strong enough argument to make someone questions the very niche topic of 'things' | |||
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"Probably best not to discuss a case about to go to trial publicly, can get you into very serious trouble."  | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. This.. When you look at some of the input you can see how some people are wrongly convicted.. " Who's wrongly convicted? | |||
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"Probably best not to discuss a case about to go to trial publicly, can get you into very serious trouble. "On a swinging website? 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. " To be honest it's irrelevant. As stated conviction rates are appalling. So it's important prosecutions are conducted properly and social media reports only facts until the court case is concluded. He's been charged. That's all. The fact it makes you happy because you don't like him and always thought he was a wrong un based on what you know of him through media is the point here. | |||
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"... I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things But what things? Can you give a link or particular episode at least of what it was that made you question what? I'm not listening to however many hours of rambling to find a supposedly strong enough argument to make someone questions the very niche topic of 'things' " No for the majority of the time the guys an ashole But an ashole can appear to be right sometimes I’m not getting into anything that could cause a debate on here not interested in that at all | |||
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"... I’m not into conspiracy theories at all and hate Russell brand but I did see stuff that made we question some things But what things? Can you give a link or particular episode at least of what it was that made you question what? I'm not listening to however many hours of rambling to find a supposedly strong enough argument to make someone questions the very niche topic of 'things' No for the majority of the time the guys an ashole But an ashole can appear to be right sometimes I’m not getting into anything that could cause a debate on here not interested in that at all " I'm just asking what things it made you question. Not looking to debate it. Just to know what rough area to look in for these convincing arguments. You can send it by DM if you're afraid of saying it publicly. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. This.. When you look at some of the input you can see how some people are wrongly convicted.. Who's wrongly convicted?" Historically.. Whatever type of person he is, like you or I if in the dock they have the same right UK a fair trial.. | |||
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"Can someone in the know share what subjects brands been talking that the government doesn't want exposed to the public? And how is he privy to these things? Genuine question, I have never watched more than 30 seconds of him speak I don't think. " It's really not that hard to find it on the usual Internet sites. Do yourself a favour. Quench your thirsty mind and Google it. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay " Who is he going to pay? | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. To be honest it's irrelevant. As stated conviction rates are appalling. So it's important prosecutions are conducted properly and social media reports only facts until the court case is concluded. He's been charged. That's all. The fact it makes you happy because you don't like him and always thought he was a wrong un based on what you know of him through media is the point here. " It's not relevant to your narrative more like. The point I was making initially was that r**e holds low conviction rates, albeit poorly constructed punctually I will concede in my OP. However I have made the point because it is an example of injustice, not because "I don't like him". I've never spent any time to know much about him, I don't need to, I never said that people deserve jail just because I don't like them, that's stupid. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. To be honest it's irrelevant. As stated conviction rates are appalling. So it's important prosecutions are conducted properly and social media reports only facts until the court case is concluded. He's been charged. That's all. The fact it makes you happy because you don't like him and always thought he was a wrong un based on what you know of him through media is the point here. It's not relevant to your narrative more like. The point I was making initially was that r**e holds low conviction rates, albeit poorly constructed punctually I will concede in my OP. However I have made the point because it is an example of injustice, not because "I don't like him". I've never spent any time to know much about him, I don't need to, I never said that people deserve jail just because I don't like them, that's stupid." You said you hope he gets significant jail time because you know he's a wrong un? | |||
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"I just find it ironic a guy who models himself after a born again Christian and looks like Jesus after a rough night out in Doncaster is being crucified around Easter time" | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. To be honest it's irrelevant. As stated conviction rates are appalling. So it's important prosecutions are conducted properly and social media reports only facts until the court case is concluded. He's been charged. That's all. The fact it makes you happy because you don't like him and always thought he was a wrong un based on what you know of him through media is the point here. It's not relevant to your narrative more like. The point I was making initially was that r**e holds low conviction rates, albeit poorly constructed punctually I will concede in my OP. However I have made the point because it is an example of injustice, not because "I don't like him". I've never spent any time to know much about him, I don't need to, I never said that people deserve jail just because I don't like them, that's stupid. You said you hope he gets significant jail time because you know he's a wrong un? " No I didn't 😂 Lol to rewritting something to push an agenda against someone. | |||
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"For those interested I googled it. Most I found was he didn’t believe in covid. Lots of conspiracy theorists didn’t. They’re not up against those charges sooooooo I’m not sure ‘he knew too much’ holds any weight " Thanks Jamie , I wasn't curious enough to look was hoping one of the secret conspirators where going to enlighten us | |||
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"For those interested I googled it. Most I found was he didn’t believe in covid. Lots of conspiracy theorists didn’t. They’re not up against those charges sooooooo I’m not sure ‘he knew too much’ holds any weight Thanks Jamie , I wasn't curious enough to look was hoping one of the secret conspirators where going to enlighten us" My thoughts too | |||
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"Apparently, if you look into his eyes, you can see his innocence. His words." Well 24 eyes will be looking at him soon … let’s see what decide | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay " How did ya 'always know ' was there when it happened then? Just wondering why ya didn't bring this information forward sooner??? | |||
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"I'm originally from Grays, same town as him. My mate was at school with him until he left. Always a fucking weirdo, apparently. Definitely a wrong 'un." Well there you have it, conclusive proof " he's a wrong un" | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about "and just like that up pops another | |||
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"For those interested I googled it. Most I found was he didn’t believe in covid. Lots of conspiracy theorists didn’t. They’re not up against those charges sooooooo I’m not sure ‘he knew too much’ holds any weight Thanks Jamie , I wasn't curious enough to look was hoping one of the secret conspirators where going to enlighten us" Having had a good look at his political trajectory. It's interesting to see his move from far left to far right and then into religion. A cynic might even think all that political noise may be a smoke screen for his actual unsavoury and illegal behaviour. Shouting "I know things the government don't want you to know", is another classic bait and switch tactic. I hope he's fairly tried and justice does its job. | |||
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"Here we go ... Guilty by assumptions that what's been in the press is obviously always correct ... I'm no fan of the guy but non of us know the facts etc ... Plus, there always seems to be relish these days in taking pleasure from someone's misfortune... I'm sure there's plenty of people done similar or worse than he has and aren't in the public domain and haven't been caught out.... Non of us are saints ! " So you're admitting you're a sex offender? | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. I'm not one for being able to hold in my opinions, especially ones I feel strongly about. I think you're right, but that statement isn't going to stop people being vocal about things like this, especially when they're emotive ones and you have no idea what that person's perspective is on that subject. To be honest it's irrelevant. As stated conviction rates are appalling. So it's important prosecutions are conducted properly and social media reports only facts until the court case is concluded. He's been charged. That's all. The fact it makes you happy because you don't like him and always thought he was a wrong un based on what you know of him through media is the point here. It's not relevant to your narrative more like. The point I was making initially was that r**e holds low conviction rates, albeit poorly constructed punctually I will concede in my OP. However I have made the point because it is an example of injustice, not because "I don't like him". I've never spent any time to know much about him, I don't need to, I never said that people deserve jail just because I don't like them, that's stupid. You said you hope he gets significant jail time because you know he's a wrong un? No I didn't 😂 Lol to rewritting something to push an agenda against someone." Read your op | |||
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"Very few things are triggering to me but I'm not being sorry for being opinionated about misogyny. I could have worded my OP different but I didn't. I hate the way respect for women has just dropped out it's arse and a culture of apologising for it has followed." Agree about respect for women and actually for that matter respect in general. What i wonder is where you make a man who is currently only accused guilty as charged because you don't like what you know of him through the media. 1 issues have been conflated | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay He's been charged. Not found guilty. And probably best to stay out of it until it's concluded. Trial is by court of law not by social media. This.. When you look at some of the input you can see how some people are wrongly convicted.. Yeah, because discussion on a singers site is that important. If it's that unimportant or invalid theres no need to legislate it is there? " Aye dead on. | |||
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" someone who's voice matters to me on this issue has made it clear they have no doubts about his guilt. So I'm pretty sold 💜" A few of my friends have actually worked with him in the past and none of them are surprised in the least. | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that."agree with this ..and i cant stand the guy | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about " Just like David Ike does….. No sure what he’s charged with but he was clearly a bit of a dick in the past but I’ve no idea if he’s on a par with likes of Jimmy saville, John peel etc I’d be surprised if he was | |||
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"Say what you like about Russell Brand, if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have known about the Church Massacre in Democratic Republic of Congo where 70 people including Men Women & Children were beheaded, which happened mid Feburary this year. Our media wasn't going to cover it. As to his guilt? I'll leave that to a jury to decide. I would like to think if I was SA'd I wouldn't leave it over 20 years to say something and go to the police, not to the papers." You could just get world news like he does you don’t have to have it second hand on his anoying blogs. | |||
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"I would like to think if I was SA'd I wouldn't leave it over 20 years to say something and go to the police, not to the papers." Many people would like to think that. You don't know until it happens how you're going to react in those moments or the aftermath. I think most people would be disappointed in their reactions, their shame about that and being a victim at all can mean not even admitting it to yourself for months, never mind verbalising it to another human who'll see you as weak. It's easy to say and believe that you'd never allow something to happen to you or your loved ones. Are any of the women named? Seeking fame or notoriety? I can't see that anywhere 💜 | |||
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" As to his guilt? I'll leave that to a jury to decide. I would like to think if I was SA'd I wouldn't leave it over 20 years to say something and go to the police, not to the papers." Without discussing anyone specific, the power elements with SA are long known and used by perpetrators especially the very rich and famous.. It's common that victims don't come forward because they believe they just won't be listened to against such people.. So they lock it away.. | |||
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"You have to understand how the criminal justice procedures work. When a person is arrested, it is to allow the police to make an investigation. When a person is charged, that doesn't mean that they are guilty at all. All it means is that the case is then passed on to the criminal courts. There is one of two ways a charged person may take (known in the legal world as" the journey") 1. A charged person is held on remand. (this usually means, they will have pretty solid evidence to go to a trial with). When on remand the courts have a certain amount of time to bring about a trial and a deadline to achieve. 2. A charged person is bailed, given certain conditions of that bail. This is known in the legal world as CFE (committed for further examination) this allows a much longer period of time for the deadline ( approx 12 months) of a trial to brought about that person. Charges may be dropped at the end before a trial can begin. Given the gravity of the accusations (sexual assault) he is technically classed as a potential danger to society, which tells you a lot if a person is bailed pending further examination as opposed to being held on remand (which is more likely if a person is classified as a danger to society). There are always three sides to a story there's yours, theirs and the truth. Very difficult to pass judgement or opinions in such a case. After all it is important to remember that a person is innocent until proven by the facts of being guilty by their peers of a Jury...it's sad really that an innocent person will go through absolute hell and be stigmatised for something they may not have done. One must keep an open mind and allow the finding of facts to be achieved. Guilty or not. That's my tuppence worth thrown in🥴" The charges were raised today. He has not been bailed 💜 | |||
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"You have to understand how the criminal justice procedures work. When a person is arrested, it is to allow the police to make an investigation. When a person is charged, that doesn't mean that they are guilty at all. All it means is that the case is then passed on to the criminal courts. There is one of two ways a charged person may take (known in the legal world as" the journey") 1. A charged person is held on remand. (this usually means, they will have pretty solid evidence to go to a trial with). When on remand the courts have a certain amount of time to bring about a trial and a deadline to achieve. 2. A charged person is bailed, given certain conditions of that bail. This is known in the legal world as CFE (committed for further examination) this allows a much longer period of time for the deadline ( approx 12 months) of a trial to brought about that person. Charges may be dropped at the end before a trial can begin. Given the gravity of the accusations (sexual assault) he is technically classed as a potential danger to society, which tells you a lot if a person is bailed pending further examination as opposed to being held on remand (which is more likely if a person is classified as a danger to society). There are always three sides to a story there's yours, theirs and the truth. Very difficult to pass judgement or opinions in such a case. After all it is important to remember that a person is innocent until proven by the facts of being guilty by their peers of a Jury...it's sad really that an innocent person will go through absolute hell and be stigmatised for something they may not have done. One must keep an open mind and allow the finding of facts to be achieved. Guilty or not. That's my tuppence worth thrown in🥴 The charges were raised today. He has not been bailed 💜" "Wow", I hadn't heard he wasn't bailed. then watch this space. Unless the charges are dropped there will be a trial within 4 months. | |||
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"The charges were raised today. He has not been bailed 💜 "Wow", I hadn't heard he wasn't bailed. then watch this space. Unless the charges are dropped there will be a trial within 4 months." Your post implied that the fact he wasn't currently on remand spoke to his character. The charges were raised today, I don't believe he is currently in the country to be physically arrested, court date is set for May 💜 | |||
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"I think the fella will still be a bellend regardless of whether or not he is guilty. I am glad he is out of the (mine anyway) public eye" I was never a big fan of his either... I was aware of his behaviour ( which I thought was odd), however as one person above said, it was encouraged by the TV. I was also aware that he had a podcast and was getting cancelled due to his opinions. | |||
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"I've removed a couple of posts as it's not allowed to discuss personal experiences. Forgive ones ignorance in asking this question, however please help me understand, is talking about personal experiences not allowed or is it due to the subject???🥴" Personal experiences of the subject aren't allowed | |||
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"I've removed a couple of posts as it's not allowed to discuss personal experiences. Forgive ones ignorance in asking this question, however please help me understand, is talking about personal experiences not allowed or is it due to the subject???🥴 Personal experiences of the subject aren't allowed " I understand that but I feel its a shame as some people could understand more from people's experience | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that.
I know, hence my pessimistic last line...
Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK.
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay Oh you always knew?? Maybe you should have gone to the police sooner and told them
Absolutely. I wonder what other facts they know.
P.S being charged doesn't mean he's actually done anything. Innocent until Proven guilty and all that.
I know, hence my pessimistic last line...
Rape is one of the lowest conviction rates in the UK.
I hold optimism in that with the fact it's been announced and he's been charged they must have some evidence to back it up.
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about Exactly "Oh my gosh. What things 😂 | |||
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What things 😂"I admire your tenacity, Prey 😆 | |||
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"You can be charged if an offence "MAY" have occurred.. for example... The minimum threshold is to have a witness ( note I said minimum) for example...the victim may have told someone about the alleged offence... That then makes that person a witness (not necessarily seen the actual crime occur) but whom can say that the person said that it happened and may even be able to go into detail about what was said. (Technically "hear say", only you can't convict on hearsay. However you can "charge" as the offence "MAY" have occurred). " Approximately one in thirty reported goes to court. The other 29 are rejected by the CPS before they get there. For the CPS to have decided to go ahead with the charges after more than 18 months since the reports to gather evidence and review testimonies, it's probably a bit more than hearsay 💜 | |||
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"Hello everyone! Haven't read the whole thread but I've seen he's since denied it on x. Ultimately it's a court case now and I do think evidence will be presented. I do also think people don't have allegations against them unless they are guilty. So. He's obviously not great and this publicity is good for warning people that consent IS key. And that's good for humanity as a whole." I agree with the first part that ultimately it's now a court case, however I have to politely disagree with the.."people don't have allegations unless they're guilty" bit... It's why we don't have the death penalty in this country... The last man hanged was actually found to be innocent after his execution... I'm not defending the man by any means, however I must rely on facts to have a solid opinion about his case... Even though personally I do think he was a bit of a 🔔end. | |||
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"You can be charged if an offence "MAY" have occurred.. for example... The minimum threshold is to have a witness ( note I said minimum) for example...the victim may have told someone about the alleged offence... That then makes that person a witness (not necessarily seen the actual crime occur) but whom can say that the person said that it happened and may even be able to go into detail about what was said. (Technically "hear say", only you can't convict on hearsay. However you can "charge" as the offence "MAY" have occurred). Approximately one in thirty reported goes to court. The other 29 are rejected by the CPS before they get there. For the CPS to have decided to go ahead with the charges after more than 18 months since the reports to gather evidence and review testimonies, it's probably a bit more than hearsay 💜" I don't doubt you one bit... I only hope that if the crown prosecution bring a case then they"Do" have the correct information and evidence in order to secure a conviction and not make a hash of it, where it could potentially get thrown out. The co and the police have fucked cases up before.... Look at the controversy over the Lucy letby case... You now have "experts" arguing it was floored 🥴 | |||
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"You can be charged if an offence "MAY" have occurred.. for example... The minimum threshold is to have a witness ( note I said minimum) for example...the victim may have told someone about the alleged offence... That then makes that person a witness (not necessarily seen the actual crime occur) but whom can say that the person said that it happened and may even be able to go into detail about what was said. (Technically "hear say", only you can't convict on hearsay. However you can "charge" as the offence "MAY" have occurred). Approximately one in thirty reported goes to court. The other 29 are rejected by the CPS before they get there. For the CPS to have decided to go ahead with the charges after more than 18 months since the reports to gather evidence and review testimonies, it's probably a bit more than hearsay 💜 I don't doubt you one bit... I only hope that if the crown prosecution bring a case then they"Do" have the correct information and evidence in order to secure a conviction and not make a hash of it, where it could potentially get thrown out. The co and the police have fucked cases up before.... Look at the controversy over the Lucy letby case... You now have "experts" arguing it was floored 🥴" Successful convictions on cases that go to trial are less than 60% When it comes down to it most of these cases do come down to he said she said. A lack of consent doesn't tend to have physical evidence. As soon as the defendant says it was consensual you've pretty much lost any kind of physical proof and it can only be testimony. Given that one in 30 never reported never reaches a court, and over a third of those are unsuccessful in prosecution, that would mean about 2% of reported incidents see a resolution. And that's without getting into the vast number of unreported cases, because we already know it's almost pointless trying to get justice before it's even started. Is your theory then that 98% of allegations are completely false? Because otherwise they'd obviously have been convicted? 💜 | |||
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"You can be charged if an offence "MAY" have occurred.. for example... The minimum threshold is to have a witness ( note I said minimum) for example...the victim may have told someone about the alleged offence... That then makes that person a witness (not necessarily seen the actual crime occur) but whom can say that the person said that it happened and may even be able to go into detail about what was said. (Technically "hear say", only you can't convict on hearsay. However you can "charge" as the offence "MAY" have occurred). Approximately one in thirty reported goes to court. The other 29 are rejected by the CPS before they get there. For the CPS to have decided to go ahead with the charges after more than 18 months since the reports to gather evidence and review testimonies, it's probably a bit more than hearsay 💜 I don't doubt you one bit... I only hope that if the crown prosecution bring a case then they"Do" have the correct information and evidence in order to secure a conviction and not make a hash of it, where it could potentially get thrown out. The co and the police have fucked cases up before.... Look at the controversy over the Lucy letby case... You now have "experts" arguing it was floored 🥴 Successful convictions on cases that go to trial are less than 60% When it comes down to it most of these cases do come down to he said she said. A lack of consent doesn't tend to have physical evidence. As soon as the defendant says it was consensual you've pretty much lost any kind of physical proof and it can only be testimony. Given that one in 30 never reported never reaches a court, and over a third of those are unsuccessful in prosecution, that would mean about 2% of reported incidents see a resolution. And that's without getting into the vast number of unreported cases, because we already know it's almost pointless trying to get justice before it's even started. Is your theory then that 98% of allegations are completely false? Because otherwise they'd obviously have been convicted? 💜" No not at all... I haven't made that statement at all, I've no idea where you got that from??🥴 I was simply explaining what the minimum threshold is,in order for a charge to be brought. (Hence why I out in brackets "minimum") I think it's sad that many cases don't get the result that should befit such a crime. It is true in what you say that many don't see the light of day, let alone secure a conviction. All I was pointing out is just because he has been charged does not necessarily mean to say he's guilty... You have to have a finding of facts and have a high threshold of proving beyond a reasonable doubt,in order to convict in a criminal court setting. | |||
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"No not at all... I haven't made that statement at all, I've no idea where you got that from??🥴 I was simply explaining what the minimum threshold is,in order for a charge to be brought. (Hence why I out in brackets "minimum") I think it's sad that many cases don't get the result that should befit such a crime. It is true in what you say that many don't see the light of day, let alone secure a conviction. All I was pointing out is just because he has been charged does not necessarily mean to say he's guilty... You have to have a finding of facts and have a high threshold of proving beyond a reasonable doubt,in order to convict in a criminal court setting." In order for the CPS to let something get that far they have to be sure it's beyond reasonable doubt. They can believe the accuser and still not go to charges because there's 'reasonable doubt' about the clarity of consent. "Please just get it over with" after a hundred clear No's means they won't take it to court. Not because they don't understand that that's not consent, but because it's questionable enough that at trial it will be exploited and the jury will consider it reasonable doubt that the accused could have taken that as a yes. So there's no point. Instead it's a 6 page softly worded letter of apology and details on how to extend the restraining order when it runs out. Barely more than 3% of reported cases can meet the minimum threshold for getting as far as actual charges. The minimum threshold for a report is a lot lower. | |||
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"No not at all... I haven't made that statement at all, I've no idea where you got that from??🥴 I was simply explaining what the minimum threshold is,in order for a charge to be brought. (Hence why I out in brackets "minimum") I think it's sad that many cases don't get the result that should befit such a crime. It is true in what you say that many don't see the light of day, let alone secure a conviction. All I was pointing out is just because he has been charged does not necessarily mean to say he's guilty... You have to have a finding of facts and have a high threshold of proving beyond a reasonable doubt,in order to convict in a criminal court setting. In order for the CPS to let something get that far they have to be sure it's beyond reasonable doubt. They can believe the accuser and still not go to charges because there's 'reasonable doubt' about the clarity of consent. "Please just get it over with" after a hundred clear No's means they won't take it to court. Not because they don't understand that that's not consent, but because it's questionable enough that at trial it will be exploited and the jury will consider it reasonable doubt that the accused could have taken that as a yes. So there's no point. Instead it's a 6 page softly worded letter of apology and details on how to extend the restraining order when it runs out. Barely more than 3% of reported cases can meet the minimum threshold for getting as far as actual charges. The minimum threshold for a report is a lot lower." I totally agree with you, I do hope they get a rightful conviction...that's all we can ask for, is for justice to be served... correctly!😁 | |||
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" Barely more than 3% of reported cases can meet the minimum threshold for getting as far as actual charges. The minimum threshold for a report is a lot lower." I have seen a few times studies that estimate that the reported cases could make up less than 5% of actual SAs! So there's a chance more than 9 in 10 of people (men and women) that don't ever get to reporting that crime. What I take from that is we need to change society as something must be wrong. I do believe prevention is better than cure, especially that there's scope for that on SA and critically "educating" people is better than any method you could devise to push up more guilty verdicts. Prey has done well to be objective in this thread, much more than me and others. But we're all different with our experience so I can understand why people would vary with their opinions, or lack of, so much. It's easy to tell others how to behave when it doesn't/hasn't affected you in any way. | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about What are you implying?" He has been talking about the Socialist Authoritarian rule taking over Europe, primarily the WEF who want to return to communism. He highlights immigration, the farmers tax, import charges, two tier policing and much more shady business that is going on behind the governments doors that is leading us to a civil war ( the old divide and conquer) whilst the government is putting in plans to see us scrapping over cheap Chinese produce and closing all our infrastructure,effectively leaving us in a authoritarian state. | |||
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" Barely more than 3% of reported cases can meet the minimum threshold for getting as far as actual charges. The minimum threshold for a report is a lot lower. I have seen a few times studies that estimate that the reported cases could make up less than 5% of actual SAs! So there's a chance more than 9 in 10 of people (men and women) that don't ever get to reporting that crime. What I take from that is we need to change society as something must be wrong. I do believe prevention is better than cure, especially that there's scope for that on SA and critically "educating" people is better than any method you could devise to push up more guilty verdicts. Prey has done well to be objective in this thread, much more than me and others. But we're all different with our experience so I can understand why people would vary with their opinions, or lack of, so much. It's easy to tell others how to behave when it doesn't/hasn't affected you in any way." What do you mean by prevention is better than cure? | |||
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"Not going to comment on our opinion of him but we have never heard of "oral r@pe" before.. 🤷" Me neither but, sadly, it must exist. | |||
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"Not going to comment on our opinion of him but we have never heard of "oral r@pe" before.. 🤷" Probably because it's not talked about, jus sayin. | |||
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"What do you mean by prevention is better than cure? " As in it's better if people stop sexually assaulting people. You can see it out there in people's opinions. The reactions they have to victims. The way behaviours that are obviously predatory and overstepping boundaries are laughed off. The society we have breeds these attitudes and behaviours. Fixing that is more important than punishing those who are caught 💜 | |||
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"He does an *opinion piece* on video. Several women and what looks like a pattern of behaviour Trial will tell " What is the pattern of behaviour? | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about What are you implying? He has been talking about the Socialist Authoritarian rule taking over Europe, primarily the WEF who want to return to communism. He highlights immigration, the farmers tax, import charges, two tier policing and much more shady business that is going on behind the governments doors that is leading us to a civil war ( the old divide and conquer) whilst the government is putting in plans to see us scrapping over cheap Chinese produce and closing all our infrastructure,effectively leaving us in a authoritarian state. " I think you need to understand the difference between authoritarianism, liberalism, conservativism and socialism. They're all different things but they're not strict boundaries or religion that you should shape your life to or supporting a football team like it's some sectarian rule. Not that I know much about brand, but I can gather from this thread that he's being harnessing the ability to influence people because society makes it so. It's all too common that people reuse phrases that they don't understand fully but suit a narrative they want to believe in | |||
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"If you watch his podcasts you would understand, he's been exposing things the government doesn't want talked about What are you implying? He has been talking about the Socialist Authoritarian rule taking over Europe, primarily the WEF who want to return to communism. He highlights immigration, the farmers tax, import charges, two tier policing and much more shady business that is going on behind the governments doors that is leading us to a civil war ( the old divide and conquer) whilst the government is putting in plans to see us scrapping over cheap Chinese produce and closing all our infrastructure,effectively leaving us in a authoritarian state. I think you need to understand the difference between authoritarianism, liberalism, conservativism and socialism. They're all different things but they're not strict boundaries or religion that you should shape your life to or supporting a football team like it's some sectarian rule. Not that I know much about brand, but I can gather from this thread that he's being harnessing the ability to influence people because society makes it so. It's all too common that people reuse phrases that they don't understand fully but suit a narrative they want to believe in" This is very true. | |||
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"He was weird at school My mate worked with him He's a wrong un He is into weird stuff He has an alleged pattern of behaviour Sa cases have low conviction rates He's a Wealthy man He's changed his allegiances and religious beliefs as he's got older Some men's behaviour toward women is sometimes wrong You could probably apply that to a fair few profiles on here. Let the process happen and if he's guilty let him do his time. " He has bi polar. Weird is a bit non descript as well as dismissive and weird as opposed to who ? (b.t.w. I am not battling for Russell just a bit more fact that your mate found him weird ) | |||
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"What do you mean by prevention is better than cure? As in it's better if people stop sexually assaulting people. You can see it out there in people's opinions. The reactions they have to victims. The way behaviours that are obviously predatory and overstepping boundaries are laughed off. The society we have breeds these attitudes and behaviours. Fixing that is more important than punishing those who are caught 💜" That is actually well said prey👏👏 If only "men AND women" would just stop and think of unnecessary and cruel actions.🤔 | |||
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"Finally been charged, always knew he was a wrong un. Hope he gets significant jail time, probably won't though because he'll pay " Still doesn't mean he'll get convicted. I guess you were there if you know so much for a fact? | |||
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"Not going to comment on our opinion of him but we have never heard of "oral r@pe" before.. 🤷 Probably because it's not talked about, jus sayin. "Thanks for stating the bleeding obvious.. | |||
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"I see a lot of comments about him People convicting him before they have any evidence Bandwagon jumpers You see he did when he was young what all you perverts are doing on this very site " How do you know that? You have no more evidence than anyone else | |||
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"I see a lot of comments about him People convicting him before they have any evidence Bandwagon jumpers You see he did when he was young what all you perverts are doing on this very site Plus isn’t it strange how since he has been highlighting the corruption on a massive scale he is suddenly public enemy no1 He may be guilty I don’t know,, neither do you But theres more to this than meets the eye " He's not being prosecuted for being promiscuous is he? | |||
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"He may well be guilty, but that doesn’t mean he will ever be convicted. Money almost guarantees that he will walk away from this. Remember Michael Jackson? He paid Jordie Chandler’s mother £14m to shut him up. He had little boys sleep over in his bed with him. But he got away with it. Indeed there are many that still insist he is innocent…" In the eyes of the law he was an innocent man as unpalatable as that is and of course his behaviour in relation to that was wrong on many levels .. But there's a reason we have such things in societies developed over hundreds of years because as we've seen it only takes a word spread over a fence, or in the pub and now the web for some in society to become feral and tear someone apart.. | |||
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"I see a lot of comments about him People convicting him before they have any evidence Bandwagon jumpers You see he did when he was young what all you perverts are doing on this very site Plus isn’t it strange how since he has been highlighting the corruption on a massive scale he is suddenly public enemy no1 He may be guilty I don’t know,, neither do you But theres more to this than meets the eye " I think you’ll find that there is actually nothing more to this other than an individual who is being called to account for their actions 🤷🏻♂️ | |||
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"Was referring to the last innocent man hanged was Timothy evens, 1950 " Aah, my apologies, when you said last man hanged, I thought you meant last man hanged. I'm sure you can see why I was confused!! Gbat (L.L. pants on fire!) | |||
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"But there's a reason we have such things in societies developed over hundreds of years because as we've seen it only takes a word spread over a fence, or in the pub and now the web for some in society to become feral and tear someone apart.." Don’t you come around here with your sensible opinions, your maturity and your experience. This here is a kangaroo court and we’re going to convict before we see the evidence!
Tbh plenty of smoke in this case, wouldn’t be too surprised if there is a little fire.
Brand is quite a damaged individual.
But the moral and legal lines aren’t always drawn in the same place.
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"I see a lot of comments about him People convicting him before they have any evidence Bandwagon jumpers You see he did when he was young what all you perverts are doing on this very site How do you know that? You have no more evidence than anyone else" I'd like to think mine and other fabbers perversions are fairly out in the open and consensual 🤷♂️ But that's the apples and oranges talk we see detracting from the point, feels useless fighting sometimes | |||
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"Was referring to the last innocent man hanged was Timothy evens, 1950 Aah, my apologies, when you said last man hanged, I thought you meant last man hanged. I'm sure you can see why I was confused!! Gbat (L.L. pants on fire!)" Haha, no probs Gspot... Hope you feel better now👍 | |||
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"But there's a reason we have such things in societies developed over hundreds of years because as we've seen it only takes a word spread over a fence, or in the pub and now the web for some in society to become feral and tear someone apart.. Don’t you come around here with your sensible opinions, your maturity and your experience. This here is a kangaroo court and we’re going to convict before we see the evidence!
Tbh plenty of smoke in this case, wouldn’t be too surprised if there is a little fire.
Brand is quite a damaged individual.
But the moral and legal lines aren’t always drawn in the same place.
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"He was weird at school My mate worked with him He's a wrong un He is into weird stuff He has an alleged pattern of behaviour Sa cases have low conviction rates He's a Wealthy man He's changed his allegiances and religious beliefs as he's got older Some men's behaviour toward women is sometimes wrong You could probably apply that to a fair few profiles on here. Let the process happen and if he's guilty let him do his time. He has bi polar. Weird is a bit non descript as well as dismissive and weird as opposed to who ? (b.t.w. I am not battling for Russell just a bit more fact that your mate found him weird )" Well yes indeed granny.. I was just summarising the arguments that have been made to suggest he's already guilty before there's even been a trial. I don't particularly warm to him but to suggest he's guilty because he may have certain sexual proclivities is more than a little ironic on a site such as this. Like you I'm not defending him beyond let's not try him by media. As for his podcasts I've listened to a few. And some are more than a little thought provoking. But just because one is good or bad does not imply everything he does is good or bad. Interesting thread though people. Kudos to op. | |||
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"He may well be guilty, but that doesn’t mean he will ever be convicted. Money almost guarantees that he will walk away from this. Remember Michael Jackson? He paid Jordie Chandler’s mother £14m to shut him up. He had little boys sleep over in his bed with him. But he got away with it. Indeed there are many that still insist he is innocent…" He was a smooth criminal | |||
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"I see a lot of comments about him People convicting him before they have any evidence Bandwagon jumpers You see he did when he was young what all you perverts are doing on this very site Plus isn’t it strange how since he has been highlighting the corruption on a massive scale he is suddenly public enemy no1 He may be guilty I don’t know,, neither do you But theres more to this than meets the eye I think you’ll find that there is actually nothing more to this other than an individual who is being called to account for their actions 🤷🏻♂️" I think you'll find they are alleged actions | |||
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