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"There is talk of banning smoking in the home if children live there. How can that be enforced. ? Better with public information films. Educate or punish I reckon " When you say 'talk'.. By whom etc? | |||
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"There is talk of banning smoking in the home if children live there. How can that be enforced. ? Better with public information films. Educate or punish I reckon " I'm telling you, it's what happened during communism... They had neighbors and family grassing on others. It coming!! I'm no conspiracy theorist but look at the way things are going with the thought and hurty word police... Its all divide and conquer!! It the only way that the powers that be can control the masses, through fear!!!😡 | |||
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"I mean there's little way to enforce it. I was of a generation where my dad would smoke in the car with the windows up and us kids sat in the back. No one thought anything of it. I'd love for children not to be exposed to that. I don't know if in reality how enforceable rules around property and personal space are. " It's simple to enforce, just like COVID, neighbors and strangers including family were snitching on anybody who didn't follow the rules... It will be..."your neighbor seen you through a window having a smoke knowing you've got children inside"...then you can either fess up or go to court where your neighbor will stand witness against you... The thought is frightening.😳 | |||
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"I mean there's little way to enforce it. I was of a generation where my dad would smoke in the car with the windows up and us kids sat in the back. No one thought anything of it. I'd love for children not to be exposed to that. I don't know if in reality how enforceable rules around property and personal space are. It's simple to enforce, just like COVID, neighbors and strangers including family were snitching on anybody who didn't follow the rules... It will be..."your neighbor seen you through a window having a smoke knowing you've got children inside"...then you can either fess up or go to court where your neighbor will stand witness against you... The thought is frightening.😳" I don't agree I think covid was an exceptional set of circumstances. People do all manner of illegal things in their homes and aren't getting ratted out by neighbours left, right and centre. | |||
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"I mean there's little way to enforce it. I was of a generation where my dad would smoke in the car with the windows up and us kids sat in the back. No one thought anything of it. I'd love for children not to be exposed to that. I don't know if in reality how enforceable rules around property and personal space are. It's simple to enforce, just like COVID, neighbors and strangers including family were snitching on anybody who didn't follow the rules... It will be..."your neighbor seen you through a window having a smoke knowing you've got children inside"...then you can either fess up or go to court where your neighbor will stand witness against you... The thought is frightening.😳" And they’ll be watching and listening to you through the telescreens ! | |||
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"Is it illegal to smoke if there are children in a car. ? Surely most smokers would not smoke in front of small children for two reasons.to set an example and to protect their lungs . I don't smoke by the way and not a preacher but not in front of the children " Up here in Scotland it is, if your caught having a smoke in car with children, you're in trouble (I think police and community enforcement have the authority)... Not sure if it includes England and Wales though.. if it's not the it will be eventually as Scotland tends to be the guinea pig for the British isles.🤨 | |||
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"Is it illegal to smoke if there are children in a car. ? Surely most smokers would not smoke in front of small children for two reasons.to set an example and to protect their lungs . I don't smoke by the way and not a preacher but not in front of the children " noone is disputing that but how would you police it in someone's home | |||
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"Is it illegal to smoke if there are children in a car. ? Surely most smokers would not smoke in front of small children for two reasons.to set an example and to protect their lungs . I don't smoke by the way and not a preacher but not in front of the children noone is disputing that but how would you police it in someone's home" You can't unless somehow smart speakers come with an inbuilt cigarette smoke and child detector | |||
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"I smoked tiny rollups (not joints, regular baccy) for 20 years, never around my kids and usually on the back door step. It's achievable but not enforceable. " You have non smoker on profile.... | |||
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"I smoked tiny rollups (not joints, regular baccy) for 20 years, never around my kids and usually on the back door step. It's achievable but not enforceable. You have non smoker on profile...." It was past tense, they 'smoked'. Profiles only need to define their current stance, not lifetime history | |||
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"I agree. You cannot police a person in there own home. They used to say that an English person's home is their Castle. I also was told hat smokers had better protection against COVID because the tar stopped the virus getting in " There’s a lot of castles in wales. Are these owned by Englishmen? And will smoking be allowed? | |||
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"I agree. You cannot police a person in there own home. They used to say that an English person's home is their Castle. I also was told hat smokers had better protection against COVID because the tar stopped the virus getting in There’s a lot of castles in wales. Are these owned by Englishmen? And will smoking be allowed? " There are lots of castles in Wales and Scotland and of course Windsor castle is the home of our monarch. There is the Tower of London. Not sure if Windsor is a folly to be honest. But if you I've in a castle then I don't suppose the law enforcement will catch you smoking. | |||
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"There is talk of banning smoking in the home if children live there. How can that be enforced. ? Better with public information films. Educate or punish I reckon " This will be about as effective as banning illegal drugs, which are probably more commonplace now than they’ve ever been 🤷♂️ | |||
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"They’re running out of things to look relevant on. Normally it’s the same people that preach how bad everything is for you then post pictures on social media with the likes of ‘ wine o’clock’ And ‘ well you have to don’t you’ holding up a glass of whatever Or selfie outside Macdonalds ‘ big night last night ,McMuffin time’ After preaching the evils of processed food fir the last two weeks " my pet hate mothers and fathers going to McDonald's before school | |||
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"They’re running out of things to look relevant on. Normally it’s the same people that preach how bad everything is for you then post pictures on social media with the likes of ‘ wine o’clock’ And ‘ well you have to don’t you’ holding up a glass of whatever Or selfie outside Macdonalds ‘ big night last night ,McMuffin time’ After preaching the evils of processed food fir the last two weeks my pet hate mothers and fathers going to McDonald's before school " They do a decent sausage and egg MacMuffin to be fair | |||
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"I don't think I know many people who still smoke in their home, so it's probably a non-issue in many ways ![]() No I don't either 🤔. When I think back to my first jobs everyone smoked in the break room, you used to eat your lunch in a cloud of smoke. If you worked in an office it was hard luck if there were smokers you just had to put up with it. That's before you get on to restaurants, planes and public transport. | |||
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"Surely the only way they could ever enforce an 'at home' ban on smoking would be to ban the sale of tobacco altogether." Not a chance the government would do this. The amount of money they'd lose out on tax would cripple the country. Big tobacco will have way too much pull on any government levy against them | |||
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" After preaching the evils of processed food for the last two weeks my pet hate mothers and fathers going to McDonald's before school " Absolutely this ^ Whilst I wouldn’t condone smoking in the home or around children in general, how on earth are government (or anyone else for that matter) going to police how parents and other (supposedly) responsible adults behave? Numbers of obese adults parenting obese children in the UK is a far bigger concern; setting those children up for a lifetime of diet related diseases. A complex and nuanced problem, or so say these politicians; however, YOUR children are YOUR responsibility, if you’re smoking around them and feeding/condoning flavoured cardboard from McD et al as food, perhaps start with the mirror, your answer is staring at you in the face! | |||
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"I don't think I know many people who still smoke in their home, so it's probably a non-issue in many ways ![]() I think vaping at home is. I wouldn't be happy with my child being in a confined space with someone doing this. I don't like it outside walking amongst plumes of smoke... outside is less about health for me moreso the behaviour. | |||
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"How are they going to police it? My parents smoked 40 a day each (though my dad gave up when I was about 8 and my mother probably smoked when she was pregnant). I was a passive smoker against my will for at least 20 years. I pray/hope that this doesn’t have any repercussions in my health as I get older. Smoking is a disgusting, vile vice that destroys the addict and the people around them. 🤮🤮🤮" Yeah it’s awful. Growing up with a heavily smoking parent, it angers me how selfish it is. I ended up with a form of lung disease in my early 20’s , even though I’d never smoked in my life. Luckily it was removed and now I’m fine - but it hit home how much I’d been exposed to passively. Ban smoking from anywhere near those who don’t smoke. | |||
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"Growing up in a family of smokers I hate smoking, but I'm so confused as to how this is any way enforceable? " Same, I grew up in a house of smokers and it put me off smoking for life. | |||
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" Like someone has said above - the education route? But look at those crap AIDS adverts with the monoliths slabs.... What did that achieve exactly? Did it really alter things? Adverts wouyld have to be fact based & hit home... ![]() ![]() Eh? Those were are amongst the most successful and impactful public health advertisements of all time. At the end of the campaign 98% of people in the UK were aware of how the disease was transmitted (compared with around less than 60% beforehand). And by 1990 the UK had HIV infection rates well below Europe and USA. You’re even taking about it 40 years later. In short - they worked. | |||
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