FabSwingers.com forum: At last, a Paeon to the GILF

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Giving out to the Gmorus grannies out there, here's:

Older women, by Howard Jacobson

Happiness? Happiness is an older woman. I don’t mean older than oneself necessarily. Beyond a certain age, it’s hard to find a woman older than oneself who’s still capable of standing up. But an older woman in the sense of no longer being a younger woman. Not a girl. And not girlie.

A lower voice is part of the appeal, along with lower skirts, lower heels and a higher neckline. Men are hypocrites in the matter of overtly coltish women: they might look them over on someone else’s arm, but the truth is they don’t want them on their own. The company of a young woman showing too much leg or breast, breathing too excitedly through her nostrils, makes a man feel a fool.

Of course, some older women make the same mistake, so we should say that happiness is an older woman with judgment. And that means no facelift, no Botox and no liposuction. Desperation isn’t attractive in either sex. An amused resignation to the ravages of age, however, is. Cleopatra wouldn’t have been half the woman she was had she not made a jest of the condition of her skin – “Think on me/ That am with Phoebus’ amorous pinches black/ And wrinkled deep in time” – turning the sun himself into one of her many lovers. Nothing beats the conversation of a woman with the confidence to laugh at herself while piquing you to the point of jealousy with the depth of her sexual experience.

Where has she been, the older woman? What has she done? Who else has pinched her, where? No younger woman can light these fires of curiosity. In the amused lines around the older woman’s eyes you read the questions that never will be answered. There’s the excitement. There’s the challenge. There’s the sting that makes us happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

pinch me I'm real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"pinch me I'm real

moi aussi !! team granny here ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

woop woop go team grannie go lmao I'm liking that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"woop woop go team grannie go lmao I'm liking that!

Im very proud to be in team granny Laine ..and i know a lot of guys love the idea ! we should have our own possee ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think men like older women coz they've either been with one for a long time and she knows all his little traits and habits or she's been with someone like him in the past for a long time and will tolerate all his traits and habits.... plus they're usually divorced and have a house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think men like older women coz they've either been with one for a long time and she knows all his little traits and habits or she's been with someone like him in the past for a long time and will tolerate all his traits and habits.... plus they're usually divorced and have a house.

im divorced and have two homes but i hope the guys like me for something other than what i have materially...??? i find that post a bit insulting actually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am an unofficial step granny, as my late partner had grandchildren.

I guess I definitely count as an older woman, and yes, I am divorced and have a house!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So far the ones who have caught my eyes do not look to me to provide for them.

To be honest, I am not really interested in anyone who is not finacially independent!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im divorced and have two homes but i hope the guys like me for something other than what i have materially...??? i find that post a bit insulting actually

The following happened a couple of years before I met Siren:

I started dating a woman around the same age as me (40'ish) and, having just come out of a messy divorce with my 1st wife, I was living in rented accomodation - the ex having got the house. This new lady had a 4-bed det. in a very swanky village just outside of town. Leafy little suburb full of smart des-res and coffee morning women who were also volunteers for the W.I.

The relationship was doomed from the start as she was very disapproving of my domestic status, and, after an evening of love-making, when she was feeling quite full of bravado, she commented on it:

"Why do most single men your age not own a house?", she inquired.

"Who's house is this?" I responded.

"It's mine, bought and paid for!", she defended.

"With whose money? I know you are a nurse and I know what nurses are paid at your grade."

"It was a settlement from my divorce!, she was really on the defence now.

"And where is your ex-husband?" I delved deeper still.

"He lives in town in a one-bed flat." She knew what was coming next.

"And where do you think my house is then?"

I never saw her again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm divorced and also widowed, yes I have a house... don't most people?

I like to think that the older woman is desired for herself and her attributes, not because she could be a sugar mama!

Doubly insulting to the woman and any man who desires her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im divorced and have two homes but i hope the guys like me for something other than what i have materially...??? i find that post a bit insulting actually

The following happened a couple of years before I met Siren:

The relationship was doomed from the start as she was very disapproving of my domestic status, and, after an evening of love-making, when she was feeling quite full of bravado, she commented on it:

"Why do most single men your age not own a house?", she inquired.

"Who's house is this?" I responded.

"It's mine, bought and paid for!", she defended.

"With whose money? I know you are a nurse and I know what nurses are paid at your grade."

"It was a settlement from my divorce!, she was really on the defence now.

"And where is your ex-husband?" I delved deeper still.

"He lives in town in a one-bed flat." She knew what was coming next.

"And where do you think my house is then?"

I never saw her again. "

my story

my ex left me after 32 years during which tme i was totally faithfull.. iwas recovering from major surgery which had left me partially temporaily disabled in a wheelchair ..my so called friend came to help in the house and classically she helped him out in other areas and he left me for her 5 months later ..i threw him away sold the house gave him half of what was left which wasnt much becaus e he was a gambler .there was no divorce settlement for me .i got on with my life and everything i have now is as a result of my own endevour .iworked all my married life and fully contributed to the huusehold ...so please dont tar us all with the same money grabbing ex wife brush...rant over doubly insulted .... which is a shame cos i love the look of your shibari ithought you were a nice guy !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ooh and i didnt stake claim to half his pension or ask for half of the very nice s class mercedes sitting in the drive...More fool me ! i did launch all his clothes that hed left in the wardrobe out of the window tho to make me feel a little better ! And im just so glad he left cos now i can do whatever i want with the rest of my life ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my story

I am a nice guy but it took a bloody decent woman to bury the bitter resentful man I was.

I paid all the bills in my first house. Provided her with everything she asked for. Worked locally and took my daughter to and from school while she worked full time. (I had my own business at that point).

I was repiad with her being unfaithful and she'd stashed most of her earnings in a secret bank account and proceeded to instruct her lawyers to get everything they could. I was advised that no court in the land would force her to sell the house and split it 50/50 because of our 4y/o girl. I settled for a fraction of what was rightfully mine and she got the car, the house, and most of the savings.

That made me bitter, sure.

Which is why I always look at women with their own houses that are bought and paid for with a hint of suspicion, although I fully understand that not all women came about them the same way my ex did.

It appears that the sexes are equal but women are more equal than men in divorce courts.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

" . i love the look of your shibari ithought you were a nice guy !!!!!"

In other words - get knotted!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well im of the age mentioned...

Have my own house though i dont own it.

I have a sort of well paid job, at present anyways.

I think im articulate and intelligent and can hold a good conversation .

I have travelled though not extensively.

And do i have a guy.....

No bieng the answer.

Do i want one.........

No bieng the answer.

Cuz all they want is me tits etc.. and that really really gets me goat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" . i love the look of your shibari ithought you were a nice guy !!!!!

In other words - get knotted!

not at all i just wanted himto know that there are women out there who have homes that truly belong to them and have worked for them..im sure im not alone ...but i understand where he is coming from ive met a lot of guys who have had money grabbing wives...imj just not one of them ...

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

" . i love the look of your shibari ithought you were a nice guy !!!!!

In other words - get knotted!

That'll teach me knot to tie myself up in bad jokes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ex managed to run off to the other side of the world when we split, although costs were awarded against him, when I sold the house they took the costs out of the house money, saying I had to claim it off him again through the courts. He kept his pension which was awarded him in the settlement, he still owes me years of child maintenance and those costs. But I'm not bitter, I dismissed that, wrote off the thousands he owed me and moved on in my life.

I met my lovely, who I sold my house for, to purchase a shell and rebuilt it with him, years of graft and scrimping, but we did it.

He was killed after only seven years together leaving a five year old son and my older two children dependent on me.... I got nothing but my house when he died as he had never finalised his divorce from his first wife.

She had his house, and half of all his possessions when they separated.

All 3 insurance policies, his widows pension and his council pension she still gets to this day.

I had to sell my lovely big 5 bedroom house and buy a little 2 bed ex-council semi as I couldn't work after contracting cancer and pay running costs for my big house.

All I have is through my own hard graft sometimes working 3 jobs, I've always worked up until recently, I've never lived off a man in my life and still don't intend to, I always pay my way even if it's for dinner or the theatre... wake up..... equality lives and breathes in every one of us, some of us would rather choke than ask a man for a handout.

So endeth the rant xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I met my ex-hubby, we each had our own properties.

He then bought a house near where we both worked, and it became our marital home until we divorced.

While we were married, he sold his property while I kept hold of mine.

When we divorced, he kept the marital house, and I kept my property, and he gave me the car as he did not wish to drive at all being not very good at it.

I took the saucepans, as I joked at the onset that I would, and my cook's knife as I had it for over 15y.

There was no argument about settlements, everything was amicable, because he was a very generous person. And he continues to be a great friend.

In fact, he was the second person I rang after my late partner's sudden death!

My current house is my own, bought using money I gained from selling my little flat in Central London, plus a mortgage, not exactly paid for, however, it is mine and mine alone.

I too would not like to be labelled money-grabbing divorcee, as I have worked and paid for everything I owned, except, perhaps the car, which was a gift from my ex-hubby!

And she will be 8yo in Feb 10, and probably the only thing that is contant in the past 8y of my life, apart from the saucepans and kitchen knife!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My late partner did not leave a will, which was very unusal of him, and he used to nag everyone about the virtures of leaving a will when he was alive.

As soon as the critters, as in his family - 2 grown-up children and ex-wife included, realised there was no will, I was pushed aside and was cut off from all the funeral arrangements etc...

I walked away with nothing. I needed nothing from him when he was alive, and was not dependent on him for anything except he was my soulmate.

To this date, I believe it was his twisted sick sense of humour not to leave a will, as he wanted his nasty children to work for their inherritance.

And his affairs were messy to sort out.

To this date, I believe one of the major asset still has not been sold, despite a heavily reduced asking price that barely covers half the mortgage, and there is another 5-figure loan attached to it!

The critters cannot touch anything I own, as they are mine and mine alone, and I walked away from it all with a big smile on my face with a sense of relief.

I have always been financially independent, except for the occassional blow out on the credit cards, which is something I must control myself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad to see another thread descend into bitterness!!

And particularly one in honour of a certain type of lady! Posted by a man!

Another hi-jacked thread, pathetic!! And a Happy New Year to you lot too!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like to believe some of us have put our bitter experiences behind us.

However, from time to time, emotions run riot when being stirred, that's all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad to see another thread descend into bitterness!!

And particularly one in honour of a certain type of lady! Posted by a man!

Another hi-jacked thread, pathetic!! And a Happy New Year to you lot too!!

i hope my post wasnt construed as bitterness??? just putting across a point...i loved the original post too !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest laugh was my lovelies ex let me pay for all the funeral costs and execute his will and wind up our business he and I had worked so hard to build up.

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

Can I suggest people google "Sex and the older man"? Jacobson's piece should be about 3 down on page 1.

It begins "Nothing is more erotic than wisdom, experience and good conversation..........

Worth a read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad to see another thread descend into bitterness!!

And particularly one in honour of a certain type of lady! Posted by a man!

Another hi-jacked thread, pathetic!! And a Happy New Year to you lot too!!

A lovely post initiated by a man and sabotaged by another with a sweeping statement... some are pathetic hijackers, but on this occasion you expect those same lovely ladies to just take it? Men have been sticking it to us for years in more ways than one.

Happy new year to you and yours xx

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By *imfromGlasgowMan
over a year ago

er...guess

There's a certain dignity in silence too. I doubt any of us who only know you through your posts here would have imagined any slight in your direction was intended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I apologise unreservedly to all for my outburst, I am normally a very private person about such details of my non-swinger life. If I could take back the words I would, sorry to bore you with the details and to the OP it was a lovely post, sorry to have spoiled it xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

Personally speaking, I've always seen the more mature women as having a really sexy allure to them, they always seemed to not only be sexy but confident with it. Which I rather like.

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

Hit the post button too soon...

I'm fortunate to have had (female) lovers who were older than me and I've got to admit that we had a really great time, any man who would turn that down would have to be out of his mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally speaking, I've always seen the more mature women as having a really sexy allure to them, they always seemed to not only be sexy but confident with it. Which I rather like.

I think that was what the original OP meant, and as a Grannie (which I have to admit cringing when admitting sometimes lol, cos you never know the reaction your going to get, although no-one has ever minded yet!) many thanks to the orginal OP and the lovely guy who posted this message..........

So to fellow Grannie's enjoy life, it is for living.......... !! xx

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

Afraid that I can only speak the truth!

*blushes at being called a nice guy*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

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By *riendlyfunfemWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Granny Posse don't quite have the same ring as Pussy Posse does it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well like with any type of once removed relation, maybe we could be called the

Great Pussy Posse lol!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!"

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am an unofficial step granny, as my late partner had grandchildren.

I guess I definitely count as an older woman, and yes, I am divorced and have a house!

You also seem to have a tattoo on your arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well like with any type of once removed relation, maybe we could be called the

Great Pussy Posse lol!!

i like that ...Im joining!!! ihave no problem Letting everyone know i have 3 gorgeous granddaughters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well like with any type of once removed relation, maybe we could be called the

Great Pussy Posse lol!!

i like that ...Im joining!!! ihave no problem Letting everyone know i have 3 gorgeous granddaughters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well like with any type of once removed relation, maybe we could be called the

Great Pussy Posse lol!!

i like that ...Im joining!!! ihave no problem Letting everyone know i have 3 gorgeous granddaughters"

Well that's 2 of us, anyone else care to join the "Great Pussy Posse"

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By *yronMan
over a year ago

grangemouth

Can I become a fan?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

Nah, think it's more disappointment that the thread's gone a bit skew-wiff after a nice start.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

Nah, think it's more disappointment that the thread's gone a bit skew-wiff after a nice start."

yep, severely disappointed after such a lovely post, some men just don't know when to hold their peace. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

Have to say I find it strange how some folk always seem to twist things and come up with a bad or negative angle, rather than just taking things at face value!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

Nah, think it's more disappointment that the thread's gone a bit skew-wiff after a nice start.

yep, severely disappointed after such a lovely post, some men just don't know when to hold their peace. xxx"

EXCUSE ME............. are you and a few special others the only people allowed to make a comment in the forums??

Move on and get a life for goodness sake pleeeeeaaaase!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My apologies for being so audacious as to make a comment!!

think it was the tone of your comment ??? had a nasty ring to it ????

Nah, think it's more disappointment that the thread's gone a bit skew-wiff after a nice start.

yep, severely disappointed after such a lovely post, some men just don't know when to hold their peace. xxx

EXCUSE ME............. are you and a few special others the only people allowed to make a comment in the forums??

Move on and get a life for goodness sake pleeeeeaaaase!!!!!"

you seem to be taking this personally... I didn't mean you... scroll back and see which mans comments sent the post off at a tangent!

I have a great life thank you very much, keep your personal comments about mine to yourself, you sort yours out then you have room to comment.

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