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By (user no longer on site) OP   
14 weeks ago

It said on the radio that's rats are exploding in population due to mild winters, resistance to pesticides and binmen going on strike in far away places like Birmingham. Despite this, I have hardly seen any. Are there as many rats in Birmingham as the aio claim?

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By *ndycoinsMan
14 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Have a look after dark or about 2 or 3 am when it's quiet.

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By *ustAnotherMan
14 weeks ago

brumish

Rats are always everywhere you just don't see them they have the sense to stay out of sight.

I stayed in Harlow for work once and saw about ten rats spilling out of a biffa bin in a car park after food. thought it was unusual to see them out and in the open so bold.

They can survive most things I doubt winters are any part of it, just more available food

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By *Bqwerty69Man
14 weeks ago

Stourport

Oh yeah they're definitely about. Used to see them scurrying around the market stalls or near food places on nights out.

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan
14 weeks ago

A den in the Glen

We need a pied piper

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By *AJMLKTV/TS
14 weeks ago

Burley


"Have a look after dark or about 2 or 3 am when it's quiet."

You don't have to go out just at night to see vermin in Birmingham.

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By *a LunaWoman
14 weeks ago

o o OO o o

After reading The Rats by James Herbert, I hope not!

Or we’re all fucked!

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By *enisorousMan
14 weeks ago

sunderland


"After reading The Rats by James Herbert, I hope not!

Or we’re all fucked! "

I read that and "the rats have found there lair"..very creepy stuff haha

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
14 weeks ago

little house on the praire


"After reading The Rats by James Herbert, I hope not!

Or we’re all fucked! "
omg I thought the same. Those books scared the shit out of me

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By *elly and daveCouple
14 weeks ago

gateshead

Saw a rat running along the drive thru at a well known burger joint the other night..ughhhhh

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By *elly and daveCouple
14 weeks ago

gateshead

And no..it wasn't ordering a burger...lol

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By *eschef81Man
14 weeks ago

sutton

I've been told that you are never more than 6ft away from a rat in London.

It doesn't help the amount of takeaway shops on the highstreet with people throwing food on the floor for foxes and rats.

One of the people I work with was at scrubbs and he said the rats were the huge and even the cats were scared of them

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By *bitofaslutWoman
14 weeks ago

Cannock

I moved away from Brum 7 years ago and they had a bin strike back then. There were easily 50 black bags outside every other house by the time they started clearing them. Absolute horror show!

We lived just around the corner from the municipal tip so we were the first to be cleared and it still took two weeks to do the whole street.

We had cats and I swear the amount of rats they brought home, we could have stopped feeding them.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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14 weeks ago

East Sussex

We don't live in Birmingham however there are rats galore here. This is due to us going near a stream and the number of people who out food out for the birds and don't clear it up when it spills on the ground. If we leave the wild life camera out at night it's shocking to see just how many rats there are.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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14 weeks ago

East Sussex

Oh and when we kept chickens they attracted even more

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By *riar BelisseWoman
14 weeks ago

Holibobs

Apparently the 2024 uk human population was 69 million and the rat population was up to 200 million... I do find it oddly peculiar that Rat Flu hasn't appeared yet. Compared to how many physical contamination diseases they can give us, you'd think they would have an Influenza one as well...

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By *WBiOnlyCoupleCouple
14 weeks ago

St Helens

The reason you aren't noticing them is because they're very good at keeping out of the way/out of sight.

Rats will naturally gravitate towards walls or structures when they're on the move, sticking to fence lines,hedges and if inside, walls and skirting boards. Wild rats are dark colours obviously which means they blend into those areas really well,

It's not uncommon for wild rats to breed with domestic rats but the offspring that take the domestic rats colouring don't live long enough to pass it down and have wild rats that are white or hooded over white and such colours.

One of my pet rats is dark brown and she practically goes invisible if I have the lights off and just the TV on. When I've got my dark bedsheets on I often don't notice her until she's pissing about on my windowsill. Despite the fact she had to walk across the bed I'm laying in to get there. Something the other two which are grey and white have never been able to do. Consider how a dark brown horse with no hi vis on blends in on a country lane on a dark overcast winters day, and has been the subject of extensive safety campaigns.

Domestic rats are the same if you let them free roam in your home. I have three, and when Mr isn't here in the week they are out all the time even at night. You'll rarely see them walk across a room in a direct straight line. Even when they're stealing food (they run off with biscuits and chocolate bars) that is too big for them to carry, they'll go around the rooms near the walls rather than take a shorter direct route through open spaces. It's why they are more suitable for free roaming than other rodents, which will dart about and end up running under your feet. They literally have an instinct to keep out of the way.

I live in a tiny one bed flat and have never come close to stepping on them like

For an idea of how good they are at tucking themselves away and moving in stealth mode, if my three didn't come to me when I shout them I would have to shut all the doors and go through each room one at a time,because I have done it many times before they learned their names, and in a 50 sq metre flat Its taken well over an hour to find them 😂 At times I've just given up as i know they will come and find me when they want food/don't like the food theyve got.

Also, people think rats are nocturnal and running about all night. They're not, they are active in the hours around sunrise and then again at sunset. The rest of the time they are sleeping or washing themselves which they like to do underneathe things.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
14 weeks ago

Central

Use chilli powder on any bird food that you put out, as rodents don't like it. Birds cannot taste it, so it's no problem for them.

Saying that, a palm tree I have had something digging in it last week . But it was after a shower that potentially washed the chilli I'd sprinkled a few days earlier - and I'm guessing that it also denatures, when in fresh air for long enough. I'm assuming it was a squirrel but have no cameras outside.

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By *WBiOnlyCoupleCouple
14 weeks ago

St Helens

Also, the winters being milder isn't a reason, rats cope with winter far better than they cope with heat, even as babies. People often think they die off in winter, but they don't they just spend more time huddled together underneathe/inside a small space.

I struggle to believe that they are resistant to pesticides. Rats have incredibly sensitive respiratory systems. They're not bloody resistant to dust nevermind a poisonous chemical 😂

The bin men thing could have an effect if there's more rubbish around because of it, as it's more food and they can and will eat almost anything. Some council boss probably added the first two excuses rather than admit it's because of poor waste management.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
14 weeks ago

Are rats out friends or enemies ?

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By *ndycoinsMan
14 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"Have a look after dark or about 2 or 3 am when it's quiet.

You don't have to go out just at night to see vermin in Birmingham."

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By *ndycoinsMan
14 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"Also, the winters being milder isn't a reason, rats cope with winter far better than they cope with heat, even as babies. People often think they die off in winter, but they don't they just spend more time huddled together underneathe/inside a small space.

I struggle to believe that they are resistant to pesticides. Rats have incredibly sensitive respiratory systems. They're not bloody resistant to dust nevermind a poisonous chemical 😂

The bin men thing could have an effect if there's more rubbish around because of it, as it's more food and they can and will eat almost anything. Some council boss probably added the first two excuses rather than admit it's because of poor waste management. "

There is plenty of evidence they are more resistant to Rodenticide.Resistant doesn't mean immune.Studies have also shown they know when they have ingested something harmful,they eat soil to soak up the poison in their stomach.They are not immune to my Lead sleeping tablets however.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
14 weeks ago

Crumpet Castle

Where ever you live....... poor or posh you are never more than 6 feet from a Rat......... they may be under you in a sewer or run of some kind but they are there.

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By *ripfillMan
14 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant

Actually the issue to be debated is

“ leptospirosis (Weil's disease), hantavirus, and rat-bite fever,”

Rats have in effect no bladder so they piss everywhere

The disease can be fatal but more over the Bubonic plague started with Rats …

And it’s said one one is more than 10m away from a rat

There is a thought …

Good night …

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By *ripfillMan
14 weeks ago

Paris, New York, Hong Kong and Havant

Or as granny suggests 6 m I guess that’s city life for you ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
14 weeks ago

Crumpet Castle


"Or as granny suggests 6 m I guess that’s city life for you ? "

Well Granny said feet ! and now she looked it up they are both myth ..... but a possibility in the city and then she went all weird n started talking in the third person !

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
14 weeks ago

Central


"Actually the issue to be debated is

“ leptospirosis (Weil's disease), hantavirus, and rat-bite fever,”

Rats have in effect no bladder so they piss everywhere

The disease can be fatal but more over the Bubonic plague started with Rats …

And it’s said one one is more than 10m away from a rat

There is a thought …

Good night … "
.

They do have a bladder but will urinate for more purposes other than just excreting their piss.

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By *abluesbabyMan
14 weeks ago

Gibraltar/Cheshire/London


"...but more over the Bubonic plague started with Rats … "

They certainly did believe this for many centuries and rats were indeed blamed, hence stories like the Pied Piper of Hamlin of course.

Howver, the experts no longer think rats were the culprits as recent research suggests that human fleas and body lice, rather than rats, were the primary vectors for the spread of the disease.

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By *orcsmatMan
14 weeks ago

Kidderminster

I think this is one to pose to Tim Hartford for More or Less on Radio 4

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By *rown_Bread78Man
14 weeks ago

Leeds

they get well fed on fried chicken & chips

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By (user no longer on site)
14 weeks ago

Yeah, there’s quite a few on here x

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By *ottom charlieMan
14 weeks ago

Washington


"It said on the radio that's rats are exploding in population due to mild winters, resistance to pesticides and binmen going on strike in far away places like Birmingham. Despite this, I have hardly seen any. Are there as many rats in Birmingham as the aio claim?"
staple food source in birmingham people should buy more kababs on a stick to reduce numbers

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
14 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

There's a rat in mi kitchen what am I gonna do?

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By (user no longer on site)
14 weeks ago

the Uk is teaming with rats. We live in quite a rural location and still have problems with Rats - We keep bate stations always filled with poison to control them. Watch out at night if you want to see them as they are naturally nocturnal we have cctv on all the time around our property and we see them regularly as soon as we stop putting poison out

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
14 weeks ago

Is it true that rat poison is a blood thinner and given to humans in small doses

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By *ddie1966Man
14 weeks ago

Paper Town Central, Essex.

I keep 2 rats

Bubble and Squeek.

They make awesome pats. Very clean and very loving. Often they climb on my shoulder and snuffle my ear.

The only problem with wild rats is they will take young birds, but again, generally, they're very clean animals and spend a lot of time grooming each other.

You can never eradicate them. Just keep their numbers down.

Poison is not the way to do it, it's a horrible death. A single lead sleeping tablet in the head is the best humane method.

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By *ndycoinsMan
14 weeks ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,


"Actually the issue to be debated is

“ leptospirosis (Weil's disease), hantavirus, and rat-bite fever,”

Rats have in effect no bladder so they piss everywhere

The disease can be fatal but more over the Bubonic plague started with Rats …

And it’s said one one is more than 10m away from a rat

There is a thought …

Good night … .

They do have a bladder but will urinate for more purposes other than just excreting their piss."

They have no bladder Sphincter so are continually dribbling Urine as they travel around,thereby spreading diseases such as Weils disease/Leptospirosis/Leptospiral Jaundice.As demonstrated on a friend's lawn.Two neighbours excessively feed birds.The neighbour in the middle put out rat poison.A few days later my friend's lawn grass began to die off in very narrow strips leading to and from holes under the left and right fences.Rat poison passing through the Rat via piss dribbling killing the grass,revealing their 'Rat runs'.

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By *EAT..85Woman
14 weeks ago

Nottingham

There was a dead one in my garden on Saturday. I think the cats got it. But I live next to a park with a pond that has a thriving rat community due to the over feeding of the ducks.

Rats are a natural clean up crew, they'll thrive if conditions are right.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
14 weeks ago

walsall

I’ve been to Birmingham before the bin strike. The rats were thriving well before then.

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By *TWboyMan
14 weeks ago

Kings Lynn


"Oh and when we kept chickens they attracted even more"

Absolutely. Rats lived right next door to my chicken run so they didn’t have to travel far for food.

They are highly intelligent and not to be underestimated.

In the end my dogs didn’t even bother with them….

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By *TWboyMan
14 weeks ago

Kings Lynn


"The reason you aren't noticing them is because they're very good at keeping out of the way/out of sight.

Rats will naturally gravitate towards walls or structures when they're on the move, sticking to fence lines,hedges and if inside, walls and skirting boards. Wild rats are dark colours obviously which means they blend into those areas really well,

It's not uncommon for wild rats to breed with domestic rats but the offspring that take the domestic rats colouring don't live long enough to pass it down and have wild rats that are white or hooded over white and such colours.

One of my pet rats is dark brown and she practically goes invisible if I have the lights off and just the TV on. When I've got my dark bedsheets on I often don't notice her until she's pissing about on my windowsill. Despite the fact she had to walk across the bed I'm laying in to get there. Something the other two which are grey and white have never been able to do. Consider how a dark brown horse with no hi vis on blends in on a country lane on a dark overcast winters day, and has been the subject of extensive safety campaigns.

Domestic rats are the same if you let them free roam in your home. I have three, and when Mr isn't here in the week they are out all the time even at night. You'll rarely see them walk across a room in a direct straight line. Even when they're stealing food (they run off with biscuits and chocolate bars) that is too big for them to carry, they'll go around the rooms near the walls rather than take a shorter direct route through open spaces. It's why they are more suitable for free roaming than other rodents, which will dart about and end up running under your feet. They literally have an instinct to keep out of the way.

I live in a tiny one bed flat and have never come close to stepping on them like

For an idea of how good they are at tucking themselves away and moving in stealth mode, if my three didn't come to me when I shout them I would have to shut all the doors and go through each room one at a time,because I have done it many times before they learned their names, and in a 50 sq metre flat Its taken well over an hour to find them 😂 At times I've just given up as i know they will come and find me when they want food/don't like the food theyve got.

Also, people think rats are nocturnal and running about all night. They're not, they are active in the hours around sunrise and then again at sunset. The rest of the time they are sleeping or washing themselves which they like to do underneathe things.

"

Thanks for the info - very interesting summary

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By *TWboyMan
14 weeks ago

Kings Lynn


"Also, the winters being milder isn't a reason, rats cope with winter far better than they cope with heat, even as babies. People often think they die off in winter, but they don't they just spend more time huddled together underneathe/inside a small space.

I struggle to believe that they are resistant to pesticides. Rats have incredibly sensitive respiratory systems. They're not bloody resistant to dust nevermind a poisonous chemical 😂

The bin men thing could have an effect if there's more rubbish around because of it, as it's more food and they can and will eat almost anything. Some council boss probably added the first two excuses rather than admit it's because of poor waste management.

There is plenty of evidence they are more resistant to Rodenticide.Resistant doesn't mean immune.Studies have also shown they know when they have ingested something harmful,they eat soil to soak up the poison in their stomach.They are not immune to my Lead sleeping tablets however."

Those being .22 of course 😀

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