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"This might fare better on the Politics section OP ? 🤞" Don't worry, I'm waiting for it to get bumped there....give it 5 mins  | |||
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"This might fare better on the Politics section OP ? 🤞 Don't worry, I'm waiting for it to get bumped there....give it 5 mins " | |||
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"People ! People are the problem." I wouldn't disagree it's an "Us" thing | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great?" Never | |||
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"People ! People are the problem." But why?. The world has always had people in it but things are so much worse these days. What makes people act the way they do?. | |||
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"Organised crime , Scammers and those who seek to steal using online techniques " We've had organised crime for decades, and scams to a degree isn't a new world crime it's just evolved since the arrival of the internet | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great?" Its always been Great, it literally says so on my passport.  | |||
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"People ! People are the problem. But why?. The world has always had people in it but things are so much worse these days. What makes people act the way they do?." The world has always been variously shit. I doubt your territory being overrun by the Mongols was pleasant. Nor contracting bubonic plague or being bombed to smithereens in 1940s London. Different eras just have different shit. | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great?" It's a tongue in cheek reference to MAGA in our lifetime it hasn't | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great? Its always been Great, it literally says so on my passport. " | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great? It's a tongue in cheek reference to MAGA in our lifetime it hasn't " I know what the reference was but it was a genuine question because I've never seen any evidence of it and the world really isn't any more troubled than it has been in previous generations. | |||
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"People ! People are the problem." On their own, most people are fine. Together, we're fucking idiots | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it?" The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)."" Guess we should be opening more food banks then | |||
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"People ! People are the problem. But why?. The world has always had people in it but things are so much worse these days. What makes people act the way they do?." The world has always had people in it? 
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)."" Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem" Playing devil's advocate here...but I'm considering recent times as last 10 years? So South Sudan doesn't count no? | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem" Those numbers I quoted are people who have "too little food for basic health". That's starvation. And it's a bad thing. People are starving all over the world and no-one is coming to help them. In Gaza, in DRC, in Yemen. In all kinds of places. | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem Those numbers I quoted are people who have "too little food for basic health". That's starvation. And it's a bad thing. People are starving all over the world and no-one is coming to help them. In Gaza, in DRC, in Yemen. In all kinds of places. " But fractional numbers compared to 50 or 100 years ago , and where aid is prevented it’s primarily not because we don’t know about the problem and haven’t got the resources to fix it. It’s just too dangerous or being prevented due to conflict. People are hungry, yes but they’re not starving to death like they have done for all of history on a massive scale. | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem Those numbers I quoted are people who have "too little food for basic health". That's starvation. And it's a bad thing. People are starving all over the world and no-one is coming to help them. In Gaza, in DRC, in Yemen. In all kinds of places. But fractional numbers compared to 50 or 100 years ago , and where aid is prevented it’s primarily not because we don’t know about the problem and haven’t got the resources to fix it. It’s just too dangerous or being prevented due to conflict. People are hungry, yes but they’re not starving to death like they have done for all of history on a massive scale. " I think the 80000 that died in South Yemen in 2017 might say differently | |||
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"What troubles? If you take the long view things are actually a lot better and they have ever been - there are less wars, and the wars that there are have a fractional number of casualties, there is pretty much zero famine anymore and when there is the risk of one aid gets there to prevent people dying from starvation, we’ve actually gone the other way and more people die from eating too much food and too little, we have solved many of the biggest killing diseases, and each time we solve one it gets solved faster, HIV/AIDS and Covid being recent examples of how quick cures or vaccines are produced. There is less crime, more access to education and generally living standards are much higher than they have ever been in history. Maybe you should be asking what is it? We are doing that is so successful and how can we do even more of it? The stats do not support the assertion that starvation is "pretty much zero". The numbers have been going up, not down. From the WHO, 2024: "Around 733 million people faced hunger in 2023, equivalent to one in eleven people globally and one in five in Africa, according to the latest State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI) report published today by five United Nations specialized agencies. The annual report, launched this year in the context of the G20 Global Alliance against Hunger and Poverty Task Force Ministerial Meeting in Brazil, warns that the world is falling significantly short of achieving Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2, Zero Hunger, by 2030. The report shows that the world has been set back 15 years, with levels of undernourishment comparable to those in 2008-2009. Despite some progress in specific areas such as stunting and exclusive breastfeeding, an alarming number of people continue to face food insecurity and malnutrition as global hunger levels have plateaued for three consecutive years, with between 713 and 757 million people undernourished in 2023—approximately 152 million more than in 2019 when considering the mid-range (733 million)." Don’t believe those stats look at the actual science and the history. People are hungry all the time. It is not a bad thing if you’re eating the right amount of food then you’re gonna be hungry at times. My comment was about people dying of starvation which no longer happens in our world because we are fast communication and fast delivery of aid and many prevention systems are placed to protect people at risk of famine. I don’t think millennial was being a bit bored and peckish camps as a real problem Those numbers I quoted are people who have "too little food for basic health". That's starvation. And it's a bad thing. People are starving all over the world and no-one is coming to help them. In Gaza, in DRC, in Yemen. In all kinds of places. But fractional numbers compared to 50 or 100 years ago , and where aid is prevented it’s primarily not because we don’t know about the problem and haven’t got the resources to fix it. It’s just too dangerous or being prevented due to conflict. People are hungry, yes but they’re not starving to death like they have done for all of history on a massive scale. " They are. People ARE starving to death. From the International Rescue Committee: "More than 27 million people in South Sudan, Nigeria and Yemen are facing starvation and living on the brink of what could become the biggest humanitarian crisis of our time." "East Africa is facing its worst drought in 40 years and there are now over 1.4 million people displaced by drought in Somalia alone." Drought is one of the biggest causes of famine, after conflict. It doesn't matter if we know about it but can't act due to war or whatever. Famine is famine and people are dying, especially children. | |||
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I understand that with democracies - a minority of the world? - there's public involvement but ultimately it's leaders who have to be informed and looking out for their people and international well-being.
Human climate change and the minimal action shows how shite we are. Global growth pursued, at the expense of wildlife and long-term health and survival of the masses. And the richest looking at escape to Mars etc | |||
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"To be honest....I've never been one to feel any need to make the place I live 'great'. I'm here purely through chance because my parents lived here. Like anyone on the planet it's just chance where you're born. I've never had any issues living in the UK. There's been good times and bad times. I could quite happily move to another country tomorrow and not feel any sense of loss of identity. I'd still be me. The whole 'patriotism' thing has never sat well with me. I've seen too many people in too many countries over the years defend their country just 'because', regardless of what state it was in, what the government at the time was doing or what some of the population believed about others in their country or those abroad. And personally I've no plans to move this to the politics forum unless is gets all political. So far as I see it, it's a conversation about the country, which doesn't have to go down that road. 🤷♂️" This is perfectly articulated 👏 | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great? It's a tongue in cheek reference to MAGA in our lifetime it hasn't I know what the reference was but it was a genuine question because I've never seen any evidence of it and the world really isn't any more troubled than it has been in previous generations. " You do realise the great part is to do with land. You lit need to stop bringing your pathetic sectarian shite into everything. | |||
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"Ban religion. Legalise all drugs Corporal punishment for terrorists and sex offenders. Sterilise those who don't work." All those who don't work? What about those people who, due to illness, disability etc, are completely unable to work? And no, before you clap back at me, I'm not (yet) one such person, though continuing to work is making my physical disabilities worse quickly and probably sending me towards welfare dependency quicker than I otherwise might. The ever worsening physical disabilities are making me very keen to cease being present on the earth, often. | |||
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"Ban religion. Legalise all drugs Corporal punishment for terrorists and sex offenders. Sterilise those who don't work. All those who don't work? What about those people who, due to illness, disability etc, are completely unable to work? And no, before you clap back at me, I'm not (yet) one such person, though continuing to work is making my physical disabilities worse quickly and probably sending me towards welfare dependency quicker than I otherwise might. The ever worsening physical disabilities are making me very keen to cease being present on the earth, often. " Youbare so kind tobrespond to that. Some people. Wow | |||
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"Ban religion. Legalise all drugs Corporal punishment for terrorists and sex offenders. Sterilise those who don't work. All those who don't work? What about those people who, due to illness, disability etc, are completely unable to work? And no, before you clap back at me, I'm not (yet) one such person, though continuing to work is making my physical disabilities worse quickly and probably sending me towards welfare dependency quicker than I otherwise might. The ever worsening physical disabilities are making me very keen to cease being present on the earth, often. Youbare so kind tobrespond to that. Some people. Wow" I'm waiting to be informed that's why they're looking into euthanasia etc etc. Blah blah. | |||
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"Ban religion. Legalise all drugs Corporal punishment for terrorists and sex offenders. Sterilise those who don't work. All those who don't work? What about those people who, due to illness, disability etc, are completely unable to work? And no, before you clap back at me, I'm not (yet) one such person, though continuing to work is making my physical disabilities worse quickly and probably sending me towards welfare dependency quicker than I otherwise might. The ever worsening physical disabilities are making me very keen to cease being present on the earth, often. Youbare so kind tobrespond to that. Some people. Wow I'm waiting to be informed that's why they're looking into euthanasia etc etc. Blah blah." I would not have botheted with people like that personally. They are incapable of respect and caring for those less fortunate or volnurable. And I am out  | |||
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"So when was the last time Britain was Great? It's a tongue in cheek reference to MAGA in our lifetime it hasn't I know what the reference was but it was a genuine question because I've never seen any evidence of it and the world really isn't any more troubled than it has been in previous generations. You do realise the great part is to do with land. You lit need to stop bringing your pathetic sectarian shite into everything. " Seriously. You read that and all you saw was sectarianism? You need to get out and live a little. There's more to life than that narrow view. | |||
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