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"Add to that I swing with plenty of people who aren't on Fab so again would never know." That was my line of thought... away from here, you'd never know. I've had sex with more people who aren't on Fab than with those who are. | |||
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"This is the wrong place to be if you care." I'm not sure. I think it depends on what you're on the site for. As long as it's hurting others etc... everyone should be able to use the site. | |||
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"I've been thinking about a conversation from yesterday evening (fuelled by rum) - on Fab, do you think the ability to know/see who someone has had sex with is a good thing? Has it ever put you off someone? Do you care? " Well it stopped you shagging me! ![]() | |||
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"Yes, it is a good thing. Yes, it has put me off of people. No judgement on other people’s sex lives - Do what you want 🤷🏽♂️ But we don’t know these people. And safety should be priority no.1 for us all. Especially when engaging in kink, dogging or group sex" I suppose it comes down to measured risk. What we feel comfortable with. Everyone has different approaches to safety; find those you're compatible with. And yes, for me, certain things require more? Which is a tad odd. | |||
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"I've been thinking about a conversation from yesterday evening (fuelled by rum) - on Fab, do you think the ability to know/see who someone has had sex with is a good thing? Has it ever put you off someone? Do you care? Well it stopped you shagging me! ![]() I don't think it did. But we can go with that. ![]() | |||
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"With someone I've only chatted to online it doesn't bother me at all and would only influence my decision if I knew there would be drama." But you never know where there’s going to be drama. The drama comes out of nowhere and catches you unawares. That’s why it’s so dramatic. Fucking drama. 🤬 | |||
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"You don’t really know who each other has had sex with. You only know the ones they talk about. Publish veris from. You know the ones they want you to know. So … is it weird that they want you to know? Or do you find it kind of hot? Or do you just not care?" That's very true! We only know as much as another chooses to share - directly or indirectly. I don't know if someone wants you to know, it's more they don't care if you do. Unless they actively want you to. Hmm. | |||
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"The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think" “How dare you shag that person without me? I want a go!” 😂 | |||
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"With someone I've only chatted to online it doesn't bother me at all and would only influence my decision if I knew there would be drama. With someone I know well and trust it doesn't bother me at all because I trust their judgement. With someone I know is playing games and playing one off against another by saying one thing and doing another it doesn't bother me either but I would have no interest in having sex with them." So it could influence your decision (apologies for starting with a so, it's a Sunday), that's fair. How well we know someone definitely factors in - there's the element of trust, there's also... I don't know. I suppose for some I'd be more willing to go blind? ![]() | |||
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"The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think “How dare you shag that person without me? I want a go!” 😂" ![]() | |||
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"In theory if everyone is playing safely - using condoms I guess - then it shouldn't concern me who they are meeting. The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think" There’s still things you can catch even when you use protection. Hence why verifications are useful for discernment | |||
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"I've been thinking about a conversation from yesterday evening (fuelled by rum) - on Fab, do you think the ability to know/see who someone has had sex with is a good thing? Has it ever put you off someone? Do you care? Well it stopped you shagging me! ![]() ![]() sounds plausible | |||
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"In theory if everyone is playing safely - using condoms I guess - then it shouldn't concern me who they are meeting. The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think There’s still things you can catch even when you use protection. Hence why verifications are useful for discernment " Agree, but how you'd know that from veris I don't know? | |||
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"With someone I've only chatted to online it doesn't bother me at all and would only influence my decision if I knew there would be drama. But you never know where there’s going to be drama. The drama comes out of nowhere and catches you unawares. That’s why it’s so dramatic. Fucking drama. 🤬" Drama on a sex site is an amusing concept | |||
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"I think on balance, it is probably a good thing. Meeting strangers online is inherently dangerous, and any mechanism that allows for validation - however imperfect - is better than no mechanism at all. Of course, trip advisor reviews for sex is a strange thing. Some veris are gleefully crude, others can be erudite and revealing. They can be used to fuel animosity and jealously and, at times, come loaded with all kinds of political baggage (you met someone who was mean to me, so I don’t like you now etc. etc.). They can also be quite lovely, written with sensitivity and humour and provide an accurate insight into the nature of the person or couple. However, none of this invalidates the principle reason for them - to prove a profile is genuine, and so mitigate the risk of meeting in real life Xx" Oh George! Gosh I adore your replies. They're so very eloquent and moreish. 🩷 Yes, the main reason for them - I'm completely on board with. Can see how they'll benefit, help people. At the same time - having that glimpse isn't always a good thing, some of the reasons as to why you've mentioned. | |||
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"In theory if everyone is playing safely - using condoms I guess - then it shouldn't concern me who they are meeting. The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think There’s still things you can catch even when you use protection. Hence why verifications are useful for discernment Agree, but how you'd know that from veris I don't know? " You don’t. But it’s a guide. EXAMPLE - It’s a turn-off for a lot of straight women, if a prospect man has been with another man | |||
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" I'm kind of a pervert about hearing about the people I'm having sex with having sex with other people. As long as everyone is happy for shared storytelling it is one of my favourite things. " Interesting. Does the veri system work for you in this way, or do you like to hear stories first hand, written or spoken directly to you? Xx | |||
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" I'm kind of a pervert about hearing about the people I'm having sex with having sex with other people. As long as everyone is happy for shared storytelling it is one of my favourite things. Interesting. Does the veri system work for you in this way, or do you like to hear stories first hand, written or spoken directly to you? Xx" The verifications just give an indication of potential stories! Written stories are more common because I can't get anyone to meet me face to face 🙈 | |||
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"The last thing I'm looking for is exclusivity, so as far as I'm concerned, they could be with a different person every day of the week. I don't need to know what they're doing it who with as long as they're with me in the moment. If I remember, I'll check veri's and photos but if we're meeting, them it means the conversation has been going well for a while and pics and testimonials aren't really all that important." This isn't quite directed at you but... I don't understand why exclusivity is mentioned if you discuss this kind of thing. Someone might not want exclusivity and might not want to have sex with lots of people. That exists and it's okay. Someone mindfully being with you is important. If someone is focused/mainly talking about others - that's a definite turn off. | |||
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"In theory if everyone is playing safely - using condoms I guess - then it shouldn't concern me who they are meeting. The only time it messes with my head is when I have an emotional attachment and that's more to do with FOMO I think" Ah - the emotional attachment element can change things can't it? I won't ask you any more questions but, I get it. ![]() | |||
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"Honestly I wish I could be one of those people who can have all the sex without all these obstacles in the way. I'm kind of a pervert about hearing about the people I'm having sex with having sex with other people. As long as everyone is happy for shared storytelling it is one of my favourite things. " What are these obstacles in the way for yourself? Do you ever think you make things difficult for yourself? Because I do. I know I do. | |||
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"…The only time it has really put me off talking to someone was actually when a young woman (she was around 21) messaged me and she had triple figure verifications…" ![]() | |||
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"…The only time it has really put me off talking to someone was actually when a young woman (she was around 21) messaged me and she had triple figure verifications… ![]() Could be gangbangs? | |||
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"It's a funny one Meli The more info I have one someone, the more I am likely to find things I don't like about them As for veri's, which is the only way of seeing (without being told) who someone has bedded, it is very easy to disappear down a veri wormhole For me, they rarely end well So, I'd sooner not see any veris, unless they were social ones I think, for a lot of people, veris open the gates to Judgement City!" They do! Even if people don't realise it as such. It could be something like (because a few years people were proudly exclaiming blocking a certain van's veris)... oh I won't meet them now because they've had unprotected sex To something like Oh; they've met them? But their way of doing things is very different to my own. In essence? I don't think knowing more about someone and it being more likely to put you off is weird. | |||
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"I think that it’s very clear that it does influence people. I know of quite a few people that have and do use ‘degrees of separation’ theories in regards to people that they don’t like or judge people based on who they’ve met. " Yes, I'd agree. It does influence people, however right or wrong that might be. | |||
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"…The only time it has really put me off talking to someone was actually when a young woman (she was around 21) messaged me and she had triple figure verifications… ![]() She was obviously very active which I don't have a problem with. If your schedule allows and you want it, go for it! It was the fact all of them discussed graphic unprotected sex that I found alarming. That's her choice to make, and to display. I'm not trying to shame her. As it is my choice to use those verifications to decide not to engage with her beyond pleasantries. I suppose the point I was making, possibly badly, is it's more about the type of sex people are having for me, rather than just the fact they're having sex with others. I like to feel as reassured as I can that the people I am having sex with are as thoughtful about sexual health as I am. | |||
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"The last thing I'm looking for is exclusivity, so as far as I'm concerned, they could be with a different person every day of the week. I don't need to know what they're doing it who with as long as they're with me in the moment. If I remember, I'll check veri's and photos but if we're meeting, them it means the conversation has been going well for a while and pics and testimonials aren't really all that important. This isn't quite directed at you but... I don't understand why exclusivity is mentioned if you discuss this kind of thing. Someone might not want exclusivity and might not want to have sex with lots of people. That exists and it's okay. Someone mindfully being with you is important. If someone is focused/mainly talking about others - that's a definite turn off." My housemate is on fab too and she gets regular "I want you to myself" messages. To me that's huge red flag and grounds for immediate blocking. Everyone's different though, and we're all after different things from the site. Like I'm not actively messaging anyone and never have, I'm here to get on VIP lists due club events. I do reply to messages though and have a meet in a few hours. That's a bonus on top of what I came here for though, y'know? | |||
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"I'm going to shut up now before I dig myself into a hole ![]() I've just read your reply, that would put me off the woman and the men leaving those veris too. As it did with the local lady I mentioned above. ![]() | |||
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"I'm going to shut up now before I dig myself into a hole ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm going to shut up now before I dig myself into a hole ![]() 😂 | |||
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"It has bothered me a bit in the past because if it was with someone that I haven't felt particularly endeared with (say someone on the forums, for example), it makes me wonder about my own judge of character if that makes sense?" Boom. Yes. This is definitely a thing. When someone you like, get on well with, or even fancy … when they’ve slept with someone you think is a dick. That can tarnish your feelings a bit. Give you pause. | |||
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"When someone you like, get on well with, or even fancy … when they’ve slept with someone you think is a dick. That can tarnish your feelings a bit. Give you pause. " Sometimes it can do the opposite, too. Like … I trust you, I respect your tastes … maybe that person I thought was a shit isn’t such a shit after all? If you like them enough to fuck them, maybe I had them pegged all wrong? | |||
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" maybe I had them pegged all wrong?" More lube | |||
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"More lube " 🤣 I asked for that. | |||
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"I've been thinking about a conversation from yesterday evening (fuelled by rum) - on Fab, do you think the ability to know/see who someone has had sex with is a good thing? Has it ever put you off someone? Do you care? " It's a mix really. We like to skim verifications as they could have met family or someone we know who engages in risky sex. C | |||
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"… I read them, follow veri trails and will own the fact that I have made judgements about people based on who they have met which determines if I will meet them." I know we’ve chatted about it before, but that thing about following veri trails always blows my mind. Some of you Fab women are like private detectives* - I’d love to see a film noir where the hard-boiled gumshoe solves the case by following a trail of veris on Fab … . . . . (*Private dicks! Ha!) | |||
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"… I read them, follow veri trails and will own the fact that I have made judgements about people based on who they have met which determines if I will meet them. I know we’ve chatted about it before, but that thing about following veri trails always blows my mind. Some of you Fab women are like private detectives* - I’d love to see a film noir where the hard-boiled gumshoe solves the case by following a trail of veris on Fab … . . . . (*Private dicks! Ha!)" Come on. You know how fussy we are about shoes and handbags…. We’re gonna be really particular about penises (peniiii?) I’m all for a vintage treasure, but I don’t want a mouldy antique… | |||
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"… I read them, follow veri trails and will own the fact that I have made judgements about people based on who they have met which determines if I will meet them. I know we’ve chatted about it before, but that thing about following veri trails always blows my mind. Some of you Fab women are like private detectives* - I’d love to see a film noir where the hard-boiled gumshoe solves the case by following a trail of veris on Fab … . . . . (*Private dicks! Ha!) Come on. You know how fussy we are about shoes and handbags…. We’re gonna be really particular about penises (peniiii?) I’m all for a vintage treasure, but I don’t want a mouldy antique…" If you knew it was one of a kind and priceless, would you be cautious about being too rough when you played with it? | |||
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" maybe I had them pegged all wrong? More lube " 🤣🤣 | |||
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"Come on. You know how fussy we are about shoes and handbags…. We’re gonna be really particular about penises (peniiii?)" Precious and particular about penises? ![]() "If you knew it was one of a kind and priceless, would you be cautious about being too rough when you played with it? " From experience, I’m going to say no. No, she wouldn’t. 😅 | |||
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" If you knew it was one of a kind and priceless, would you be cautious about being too rough when you played with it? From experience, I’m going to say no. No, she wouldn’t. 😅" Gonna take a leaf from my BDSM play, here - nobody likes playing with broken toys | |||
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"It has bothered me a bit in the past because if it was with someone that I haven't felt particularly endeared with (say someone on the forums, for example), it makes me wonder about my own judge of character if that makes sense? Boom. Yes. This is definitely a thing. When someone you like, get on well with, or even fancy … when they’ve slept with someone you think is a dick. That can tarnish your feelings a bit. Give you pause. " What if the person is unaware of the dickhead's behaviour and hasn't witnessed it? I've met people at clubs before who seemed perfectly lovely and fine to me, to be later told by others who have met them in the past, or know people who have met them, that they've done pretty dickhead things. But if nobody has told me and I haven't witnessed it myself I can only make a judgement based on my own interactions. And people can behave very differently in different environments and with different people. I'd like to hope if I was friends with someone and they saw I'd met someone they thought questionable they would give me a heads up (and in the past they have). And then it's up to me to make my own decision around whether I would see them again depending on what the behaviour was. But if you don't know, you don't know 🤷🏻♀️ Some of the biggest dickheads can be absolutely charming when they want to. | |||
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"Some of the biggest dickheads can be absolutely charming when they want to." Indeed. Wise words, Kinky. | |||
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" Some of the biggest dickheads can be absolutely charming when they want to. " 100%, and I've met someone from Fab before who had multiple *glowing* veris, only for him to be an utter dickhead in real life, leading to us having a stand-up shouting argument about consent. Why is why I only treat veris lightly and prefer to use my own judgement now. Plus, in my sex life away from Fab I don't have them or someone's sexual history to refer to; you learn to listen to your instincts and pay attention to potential red flags. | |||
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" Some of the biggest dickheads can be absolutely charming when they want to. 100%, and I've met someone from Fab before who had multiple *glowing* veris, only for him to be an utter dickhead in real life, leading to us having a stand-up shouting argument about consent. Why is why I only treat veris lightly and prefer to use my own judgement now. Plus, in my sex life away from Fab I don't have them or someone's sexual history to refer to; you learn to listen to your instincts and pay attention to potential red flags. " Very true. Sometimes you can only go off your own instincts and people's experiences can be very different. | |||
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"I’ve found a surprising amount of jealousy on here. I’m not a jealous person. I’m a very much not monogamous person. I love my people to be living their best lives and having fun with or without me. BUT - the second I get a sniff of being a back up decision, being messed around etc. Then yes - I am put off. " I don't think jealousy is the main reason behind someone putting off of someone because of someone else. Also - jealousy is more oft than not an umbrella term for a whole range of emotions. That's my opinions on jealousy done (for now). Yeah, being messed around is valid. That's a good example! | |||
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"I've read about the first 8 - 10 responses. Sometimes it's crystal clear that people don't even know themselves. They don't THINK. It's clear that some go for the societal expected moral answer e.g. Would you ever kill someone - answer NO. 2. Would you ever have an affair - answer NO. and obviously 3. Do you care who someone else had sex with ? - answer NO. We would all answer 'no it doesn't matter,' but fuck it does. It really does. I'll admit for a one off ....... who cares is probably a pretty good response as you are in the moment and may never see this person again and it's no reflection on you - as long as you don't know. When you begin to 'know' and 'think' it can change who you thought THEY were and it can change what YOU thought they saw in you and it most certainly changes the type of person you thought they were and how they choose even fleeting partnerships. FAB / SWINGING are not immune from reality. These are human relationships and our relationships are all that ever cause us problems and they are our reality and self perception. Short answer - Yes/No" I'm really glad you posted this Granny - you're spot on. It can change what you think they saw in you. And "how they choose fleeting relationships"? That's exactly how I view it. For some? They might not care. Others might. As long as you're not a throbber about it it's all good. | |||
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"I'd just be a bit sad if someone went off me not for anything I had done, but because someone *they* thought was a dickhead but who I'd had a nice interaction with left me a verification 😅 unless of course I was aware they were a total dickhead in which case that's on me! " Understandable, kind of but also... just because you think someone is nice it doesn't mean everyone will. Maybe one day you'll be the person who puts someone off of another? Or you'll be put off by someone. So many possibilities. ![]() | |||
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"I don't think about it being a good or bad thing. I look at it as a useful tool to loosely determine the 'type' people they are meeting and if I wish to be part of that. I'm not a swinger. I'm looking for substance, a certain type of empathy, and a smaller nexus of people to engage with who fit my mindset. Has it put me off someone? Yes. Do I care? Absolutely. I care about my journey on Fab. I have to care." I like this attitude. I also like that you proudly state you're not a swinger, DooLittle. Caring isn't a bad thing. Far from it. Also tickled with the whole small nexus thing - when I'm trying to explain my approach on Fab I'll be using that. | |||
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"I've been thinking about a conversation from yesterday evening (fuelled by rum) - on Fab, do you think the ability to know/see who someone has had sex with is a good thing? Has it ever put you off someone? Do you care? " In general it doesn't matter to me - as long as they practiced safe sex, that's what matters. That said, if I were to chat to someone on Fab I would look at their verifications to see if they're in any way like me - if they only seem to go for gym-fit musclemen with cocks they are at risk of tripping over if they walk around naked then they probably aren't going to be interested in me so in that sense I guess it does matter. | |||
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"I’ve found a surprising amount of jealousy on here. I’m not a jealous person. I’m a very much not monogamous person. I love my people to be living their best lives and having fun with or without me. BUT - the second I get a sniff of being a back up decision, being messed around etc. Then yes - I am put off. I don't think jealousy is the main reason behind someone putting off of someone because of someone else. Also - jealousy is more oft than not an umbrella term for a whole range of emotions. That's my opinions on jealousy done (for now). Yeah, being messed around is valid. That's a good example!" I think I was coming from a different angle on the jealousy. I’ve had someone(s) comment on new veris. Why did you meet them? Etc. being questioned about it puts me off the questioner A) stop stalking my profile B) don’t question me. C) it’s not like a have a ticketed queueing system like the old deli counters had. Rant over. | |||
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"I’ve found a surprising amount of jealousy on here. I’m not a jealous person. I’m a very much not monogamous person. I love my people to be living their best lives and having fun with or without me. BUT - the second I get a sniff of being a back up decision, being messed around etc. Then yes - I am put off. I don't think jealousy is the main reason behind someone putting off of someone because of someone else. Also - jealousy is more oft than not an umbrella term for a whole range of emotions. That's my opinions on jealousy done (for now). Yeah, being messed around is valid. That's a good example! I think I was coming from a different angle on the jealousy. I’ve had someone(s) comment on new veris. Why did you meet them? Etc. being questioned about it puts me off the questioner A) stop stalking my profile B) don’t question me. C) it’s not like a have a ticketed queueing system like the old deli counters had. Rant over. " In my mind you had one of those announcements instead, "Cashier number 4 please." | |||
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"I’ve found a surprising amount of jealousy on here. I’m not a jealous person. I’m a very much not monogamous person. I love my people to be living their best lives and having fun with or without me. BUT - the second I get a sniff of being a back up decision, being messed around etc. Then yes - I am put off. I don't think jealousy is the main reason behind someone putting off of someone because of someone else. Also - jealousy is more oft than not an umbrella term for a whole range of emotions. That's my opinions on jealousy done (for now). Yeah, being messed around is valid. That's a good example! I think I was coming from a different angle on the jealousy. I’ve had someone(s) comment on new veris. Why did you meet them? Etc. being questioned about it puts me off the questioner A) stop stalking my profile B) don’t question me. C) it’s not like a have a ticketed queueing system like the old deli counters had. Rant over. " Old deli counters 🤣🤣 Reminds me of going swimming, red arm bands please come in | |||
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"I’ve found a surprising amount of jealousy on here. I’m not a jealous person. I’m a very much not monogamous person. I love my people to be living their best lives and having fun with or without me. BUT - the second I get a sniff of being a back up decision, being messed around etc. Then yes - I am put off. I don't think jealousy is the main reason behind someone putting off of someone because of someone else. Also - jealousy is more oft than not an umbrella term for a whole range of emotions. That's my opinions on jealousy done (for now). Yeah, being messed around is valid. That's a good example! I think I was coming from a different angle on the jealousy. I’ve had someone(s) comment on new veris. Why did you meet them? Etc. being questioned about it puts me off the questioner A) stop stalking my profile B) don’t question me. C) it’s not like a have a ticketed queueing system like the old deli counters had. Rant over. " Oh I see! You weren't talking about it from your pov as a person put off etc, more... your pov if a person might be and questions you. No one needs a hundred and one questions on here. | |||
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"I have been put off of men in the past because of who they had sex with, why they had sex with them, and where. My brain says no." Once your brain says no, that's it over and done with. It doesn't matter if it doesn't seem rational to another; it's about what you're comfortable with. Who, why and where can be a real turn off. | |||
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"I don't think about it being a good or bad thing. I look at it as a useful tool to loosely determine the 'type' people they are meeting and if I wish to be part of that. I'm not a swinger. I'm looking for substance, a certain type of empathy, and a smaller nexus of people to engage with who fit my mindset. Has it put me off someone? Yes. Do I care? Absolutely. I care about my journey on Fab. I have to care. · I like this attitude. I also like that you proudly state you're not a swinger, DooLittle. Caring isn't a bad thing. Far from it. Also tickled with the whole small nexus thing - when I'm trying to explain my approach on Fab I'll be using that." • "Doolittle". ![]() | |||
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"I'd just be a bit sad if someone went off me not for anything I had done, but because someone *they* thought was a dickhead but who I'd had a nice interaction with left me a verification 😅 unless of course I was aware they were a total dickhead in which case that's on me! Understandable, kind of but also... just because you think someone is nice it doesn't mean everyone will. Maybe one day you'll be the person who puts someone off of another? Or you'll be put off by someone. So many possibilities. ![]() Oh I'm absolutely sure ![]() | |||
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"It has bothered me a bit in the past because if it was with someone that I haven't felt particularly endeared with (say someone on the forums, for example), it makes me wonder about my own judge of character if that makes sense? " That's so delicately phrased, good job Joe. ⭐️ It does make sense, a whole heap of sense. It doesn't even have to be someone is a full spectrum dickhead, it can be that they've not endeared themselves to you. That's enough. RTG described it as giving pause which I rather liked; it ties in with Granny's earlier comment on the ways in which that can happen. Like you, I do try and remember it's how they treat you but sometimes? I pause. | |||
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"I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not. Veris exist, can be hidden or not, and that's that. I have been put off by veris that indicate an approach to sex and connections that isn't compatible with mine. Whether that's fair is debatable as it's possible that I jumped to incorrect conclusions on occasion." Oh so you're not a nawty girl looking for playdates? You think you know a woman. | |||
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"With someone I've only chatted to online it doesn't bother me at all and would only influence my decision if I knew there would be drama. But you never know where there’s going to be drama. The drama comes out of nowhere and catches you unawares. That’s why it’s so dramatic. Fucking drama. 🤬" I disagree up to a point. Sometimes it's blatantly obvious from their previous history. | |||
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