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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab " personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site " When you say better run site,do you mean a site better suited to your needs? | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . " It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site " The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. " I absolutely agree! | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site When you say better run site,do you mean a site better suited to your needs?" Better for everyone’s needs if we had to pay a bit more then their would be a lot less people on here that’s just interested in collecting pictures not everyone has to pay to be a site supporter. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. " So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times " Every time the subject arises on the forums. It's not that difficult to understand. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times " And you've determined in a couple of months that the site isn't well run? | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times And you've determined in a couple of months that the site isn't well run?" It doesn’t take long to figure out this site is full of people that’s full of shit 😂 | |||
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"Forget pricing and just get some level of proper verification on here. Even if it's just to verify yes you are a woman, couple, man when you sign up to deter catfishes and limit the amount you can do before you get legitimately photo and age verified. Personally, if there were no single men on here I would be much less inclined to use it as they are my main interest, and I know some fantastic men who are are on here as "singles". Tarring everyone with the same brush is unhelpful. I have tried other swing apps/sites and for all it's faults I still prefer fab to all of them by far. If you don't like it, use a different site 🤷🏻♀️" Agree, often thought a yearly photo verification. You do it when you sign up so why not have to do it every year. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times And you've determined in a couple of months that the site isn't well run? It doesn’t take long to figure out this site is full of people that’s full of shit 😂" And yet you're still here.🤷♂️ | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. So you’ve never spoken to anyone in all the years you’ve been on here that would want to increase prices but then go on to say every time the subject arises have you had a bump on the head 😂 I’ve been here a couple of months and seen it mentioned a good few times And you've determined in a couple of months that the site isn't well run? It doesn’t take long to figure out this site is full of people that’s full of shit 😂 And yet you're still here.🤷♂️" Yeah because if you siv through the shit there is some decent people on here | |||
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"Single men aren't the problem, we like single men. But single men that think this site is just an easy way to get free sex is the problem. Yes as swingers we love sex, that's why we're here, but the amount of single guys that message us like we owe them our time, put next to no effort in their profile, their pictures and their messages or have not even bothered reading our profile is just crazy. Unfortunately it really is the majority that ruin it for the few when it comes to single men, because every once in a while a real gem appears and we are happy to engage in conversation and potentially meet. But that is very rare. Also guys need to remember, there are so many of you competing for the same thing and couples and women can't entertain everyone, there's just not enough time. We can certainly empathise with you guys, it must be tough going on here, but you have to remember that for every 1 good match there are literally 100s of incompatible ones. " 💯✔️ | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab " You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money." Not as a single male you can't. You have to jump through so many hoops just to warrant being taken seriously... | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. " I’d like to know what females are on here for free I pay the exact same as anyone else to use the site. Stop being a dick | |||
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"I do think it should be a members only site. You do get the odd person who only comes on here to knock one off whilst viewing pics" Sorry about that. 🤣 | |||
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Site supporter fees aren't huge revenue earners, hence why they've not changed in years. The Fab model is it's a free site, with optional extras if you'd like a little more of things.
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"The site hasn't been updated at all since I first came here about 10 years ago..." Apart from new options, like video etc! | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money. Not as a single male you can't. You have to jump through so many hoops just to warrant being taken seriously..." Hoops being what? | |||
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"The site hasn't been updated at all since I first came here about 10 years ago... Apart from new options, like video etc!" I thought videos had been here forever? What other new options have been added within the last 10 years? 🤔 | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money. Not as a single male you can't. You have to jump through so many hoops just to warrant being taken seriously... Hoops being what?" Round things mainly... | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. I’d like to know what females are on here for free I pay the exact same as anyone else to use the site. Stop being a dick "  you do know that the gold and silver pay-for membership is 100% voluntary and not needed to use the site, therefore there will be lots of women on here for free, and makes and couples.
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"The site hasn't been updated at all since I first came here about 10 years ago... Apart from new options, like video etc! I thought videos had been here forever? What other new options have been added within the last 10 years? 🤔" Yes, Videos definitely weren't on here when I joined l, and I'm 98% sure the option to add categories to photos wasn't here before. And there's more forum rooms but can't remember exactly which ones, apart from the virus one has been added since I joined | |||
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"Single men aren't the problem, we like single men. But single men that think this site is just an easy way to get free sex is the problem. Yes as swingers we love sex, that's why we're here, but the amount of single guys that message us like we owe them our time, put next to no effort in their profile, their pictures and their messages or have not even bothered reading our profile is just crazy. Unfortunately it really is the majority that ruin it for the few when it comes to single men, because every once in a while a real gem appears and we are happy to engage in conversation and potentially meet. But that is very rare. Also guys need to remember, there are so many of you competing for the same thing and couples and women can't entertain everyone, there's just not enough time. We can certainly empathise with you guys, it must be tough going on here, but you have to remember that for every 1 good match there are literally 100s of incompatible ones. " Going off my 14 years on this site I have found that the ratio of how many single men are on the site to how many men thinks it's insta-shag and who send out messages without any thought put into them is way way way less when comparing it to the couples ratio concerning the same issues. So many couples on here lately bitching about the single men, and how the site is. Why are those couples in here if it's so bad. Bugger off and leave our single men alone. #hugs and kisses to our fab single guys. | |||
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"The site being free or cheap will attract anyone and everyone. We’ve been members of other sites and have paid more and there’s hardly any ‘wanna fuck now types’, so I get the OP’s point that a higher fee would definitely detract the ‘chancers or wanking dead’. However it’s this site which we’ve never left as we’ve invariably found it better in terms of what we want for a swinging site. 95% of the people on this site aren’t going to be our type but finding that diamond is worth dealing with the people who do things differently on here. K" Sorry it wasn’t OP’s point - it was someone else’s point on the thread  | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. " That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. " It is NOT free for single women | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. It is NOT free for single women" It's free for anyone. Site supporter options are just that. Optional. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site " Have you tried any other sites? | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. It is NOT free for single women" Of course it is. The site is free for everyone. You only have to pay if you decide to become a site supporter. | |||
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"I read alot of posts saying there is not enough single fems on here, so why not increase the price for single men and make it free for single females? Also part of the site ( fab extra) should be for couples and single females only unless a single male is invited in by the above on a 24 hour pass . It is already free for single women and therefore it's not down to pricing. I’d like to know what females are on here for free I pay the exact same as anyone else to use the site. Stop being a dick " I'm stating fact. The site is free for everyone | |||
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"Haven’t read through the thread, so apologies if mentioning something already posted. I see quite a few new single women, and a few new couples profiles put a status up of how hammered they get upon joining.Quite often leading to a profile deletion shortly after. I know there are site tools to stop people messaging if you don’t want them to, but how about a limit to the amount of messages new profiles can receive in any given period? This may stop new people becoming so overwhelmed in the first few days of being on the site, and lead them to sticking around longer. " Equally....how about people leave newbies alone to settle in before bombarding them with mail trying to get to the front of the queue before anyone else. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab personally we’d be happy to pay more for a better run site The site is only a means of chatting to or meeting other people. What more do you want the site owners to do? I've never spoken to anyone in all my years here who would be open to increased charges. Every time this subject arises many people who have been members of other sites have all said the pricing structure was one of the main reasons they left and joined fab. Most have said that pricing did nothing to improve their experience. This site certainly isn't perfect but the rules apply to everyone and are implemented by mods and admin. Everyone who joins has agreed to and accepted those rules but unfortunately many then believe the site should change to suit their personal preference when in reality all the tools they need are already available. It's an adult site for adult members. It's not a crèche. " Unfortunately the lack of a paywall just encourages asshats. I’d prefer there to be no free access. Membership only. | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered " yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. | |||
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" Unfortunately the lack of a paywall just encourages asshats. I’d prefer there to be no free access. Membership only." I'm sure 'asshats' have money too. Sometimes when people have to pay for things their expectancy levels also increase. Not necessarily a benefit. And the exact same complaints you read on here happen on sites with fees. It's not a solution. | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. " I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile " perhaps this has some truth to it but I can also lead to other problems as mentioned above. When people pay for something it tends to also raise expectations of getting what they believe they have paid for. | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile perhaps this has some truth to it but I can also lead to other problems as mentioned above. When people pay for something it tends to also raise expectations of getting what they believe they have paid for." I wouldn’t say that plenty of people pay to get into clubs knowing they ain’t guaranteed to get sex . | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile perhaps this has some truth to it but I can also lead to other problems as mentioned above. When people pay for something it tends to also raise expectations of getting what they believe they have paid for. I wouldn’t say that plenty of people pay to get into clubs knowing they ain’t guaranteed to get sex . " indeed I'm one off them. But what people are like in person face to face is very different to what they are like online. | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile perhaps this has some truth to it but I can also lead to other problems as mentioned above. When people pay for something it tends to also raise expectations of getting what they believe they have paid for. I wouldn’t say that plenty of people pay to get into clubs knowing they ain’t guaranteed to get sex . " There have been multiple threads here from people asking why they should bother renewing because they still weren't getting any replies or meets. Some think it elevates them to a different level. | |||
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"i always thought swingers were couples that shared/swopped partners for fun. Is a single guy a swinger ? or just looking for sex ." think the definition is a person who is involved and group sex or swapping sexual partners. So single people who are with different partners are included in that. Well that's my take on it but it is open for different interpretation | |||
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"This might be a little off topic but does anyone think that all site users should be photo verified and maybe have a minimum number of photos ( not necessarily face or explicit) say 3 like a dating app. Possibly having to take that time would put some off the blank profiles off joining. Just a thought. That’s not really a problem people without pictures can be filtered yes that is true but a lot of the people wouldn't take the time to get verified and add the pics Is my point. Single guys pay extra for clubs and still the ratios have to be managed so would actually upping the price make a great deal of difference either. I think if people need to pay for something they tend to make better use of it it’s easy for anyone to make a fab profile perhaps this has some truth to it but I can also lead to other problems as mentioned above. When people pay for something it tends to also raise expectations of getting what they believe they have paid for. I wouldn’t say that plenty of people pay to get into clubs knowing they ain’t guaranteed to get sex . There have been multiple threads here from people asking why they should bother renewing because they still weren't getting any replies or meets. Some think it elevates them to a different level. " so if everyone was maid to pay they’d be more likely to cancel their subscription hence a good reason to make people pay | |||
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"i always thought swingers were couples that shared/swopped partners for fun. Is a single guy a swinger ? or just looking for sex . think the definition is a person who is involved and group sex or swapping sexual partners. So single people who are with different partners are included in that. Well that's my take on it but it is open for different interpretation " Yep. Couples swapping partners is just wife swapping (sexist as it could easily be husband swapping of course). Anyone can be a swinger. Single, couple, throuple, poly, whatever. 🤷♂️ You could argue two singles just meeting for sex is just hooking up of course and simply casual sex. But many singles use clubs, meet couples and groups, have multiple partners and are not just looking for NSA sex. Singles have been on the scene pretty much forever. | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money. Not as a single male you can't. You have to jump through so many hoops just to warrant being taken seriously... Hoops being what?" Celtic? | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab You can still use this site well without the need of spending any money. Not as a single male you can't. You have to jump through so many hoops just to warrant being taken seriously..." I am only talking about the ability to use the site, meaning having access to most it has to offer, without having to pay the site any money. Anything else is your choice, including jumping through whatever hoops you believe you need to jump through. | |||
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"Having been a member of fab from pretty much its inception, we think fab is awesome. The tools to manage your account exist and work perfectly. The site is a free site with voluntary site membership. It has helped us find suitable people to play with and become friends with. Long may it continue in its existing format. There is no need to receive messages from anyone if that’s what your needs are. You can search and choose the profiles with which you want to interact, if it turns out that they aren’t compatible you can block. It seems the ones not happy, haven’t realised what tools that there actually are to use. " I've found from similar debates on here that some people are fully aware of the tools but ask why they should have to use them? It's always funny that those who use the existing tools don't start threads complaining about the type of messages they receive or from who. Those who are inundated with mail from people they don't want to chat to or they feel are not compatible seem to put more effort into complaining about it than they do in proactively preventing it from happening in the first place. Surely if you are getting so much unwanted attention that should answer the question as to why you need to use the tools? | |||
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"Us single me. Pariahs of the swinging/casual/club world. We were all singles once. Just block us if you don't want us 🤓" I was a single man once Then I put on a wig and some make-up Now I'm a single man in a wig, wearing make-up... I guess that's progress?  | |||
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"Having been a member of fab from pretty much its inception, we think fab is awesome. The tools to manage your account exist and work perfectly. The site is a free site with voluntary site membership. It has helped us find suitable people to play with and become friends with. Long may it continue in its existing format. There is no need to receive messages from anyone if that’s what your needs are. You can search and choose the profiles with which you want to interact, if it turns out that they aren’t compatible you can block. It seems the ones not happy, haven’t realised what tools that there actually are to use. I've found from similar debates on here that some people are fully aware of the tools but ask why they should have to use them? It's always funny that those who use the existing tools don't start threads complaining about the type of messages they receive or from who. Those who are inundated with mail from people they don't want to chat to or they feel are not compatible seem to put more effort into complaining about it than they do in proactively preventing it from happening in the first place. Surely if you are getting so much unwanted attention that should answer the question as to why you need to use the tools? " How you going to get to page one of fabbed pics though? | |||
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"Single men aren't the problem, we like single men. But single men that think this site is just an easy way to get free sex is the problem. Yes as swingers we love sex, that's why we're here, but the amount of single guys that message us like we owe them our time, put next to no effort in their profile, their pictures and their messages or have not even bothered reading our profile is just crazy. Unfortunately it really is the majority that ruin it for the few when it comes to single men, because every once in a while a real gem appears and we are happy to engage in conversation and potentially meet. But that is very rare. Also guys need to remember, there are so many of you competing for the same thing and couples and women can't entertain everyone, there's just not enough time. We can certainly empathise with you guys, it must be tough going on here, but you have to remember that for every 1 good match there are literally 100s of incompatible ones. Going off my 14 years on this site I have found that the ratio of how many single men are on the site to how many men thinks it's insta-shag and who send out messages without any thought put into them is way way way less when comparing it to the couples ratio concerning the same issues. So many couples on here lately bitching about the single men, and how the site is. Why are those couples in here if it's so bad. Bugger off and leave our single men alone. #hugs and kisses to our fab single guys." We're not bitching about single men, just merely pointing out the the high amount of very poor quality messages and profiles from many men drown out the quality ones. Which we do see continuously as we keep up to date with reading all messages and don't leave hundreds unread in our inbox. We love the single guys and We understand fully that the men are here for the same reasons as us and of course, we haven't spent a vast amount of time here but we are actually here for meeting people intimately and don't use fab as a replacement to facebook, we have met and played with a few amazing guys so far, and they put great effort into their messages. This is simply not the case with the majority for us. Of course we've seen the same with couples, but the ratio of men vs couples in our inbox is simply not worth comparing. | |||
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" Unfortunately the lack of a paywall just encourages asshats. I’d prefer there to be no free access. Membership only. I'm sure 'asshats' have money too. Sometimes when people have to pay for things their expectancy levels also increase. Not necessarily a benefit. And the exact same complaints you read on here happen on sites with fees. It's not a solution. " I have to disagree with this statement, based on the other site I use to meet likeminded ladies. It costs quite a lot to be a single male in there, whereas the ladies can use it completely free of charge. This sounds crap for the guys, but what it results in is; an almost 1:1 male:female ratio. Imagine Fab with that, instead of the 60 million sperms crowding round that one lonely egg……  | |||
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"Having been a member of fab from pretty much its inception, we think fab is awesome. The tools to manage your account exist and work perfectly. The site is a free site with voluntary site membership. It has helped us find suitable people to play with and become friends with. Long may it continue in its existing format. There is no need to receive messages from anyone if that’s what your needs are. You can search and choose the profiles with which you want to interact, if it turns out that they aren’t compatible you can block. It seems the ones not happy, haven’t realised what tools that there actually are to use. I've found from similar debates on here that some people are fully aware of the tools but ask why they should have to use them? It's always funny that those who use the existing tools don't start threads complaining about the type of messages they receive or from who. Those who are inundated with mail from people they don't want to chat to or they feel are not compatible seem to put more effort into complaining about it than they do in proactively preventing it from happening in the first place. Surely if you are getting so much unwanted attention that should answer the question as to why you need to use the tools? How you going to get to page one of fabbed pics though? " Grow a pair of tits | |||
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" Unfortunately the lack of a paywall just encourages asshats. I’d prefer there to be no free access. Membership only. I'm sure 'asshats' have money too. Sometimes when people have to pay for things their expectancy levels also increase. Not necessarily a benefit. And the exact same complaints you read on here happen on sites with fees. It's not a solution. I have to disagree with this statement, based on the other site I use to meet likeminded ladies. It costs quite a lot to be a single male in there, whereas the ladies can use it completely free of charge. This sounds crap for the guys, but what it results in is; an almost 1:1 male:female ratio. Imagine Fab with that, instead of the 60 million sperms crowding round that one lonely egg…… "That doesn't help if the guys that choose to pay aren't the guys that women want to meet. Women aren't actually bothered by men having to pay or not. They just want the men that they want, which usually comes hand in hand with a decent profile and photos, an ability to communicate respectfully and a lack of any sense of entitlement. All those things are free. 🤷♂️ Sure. The ratio may be different. But the behaviour needed to get noticed and be who people want to engage with doesn't change at all. There could be 10 guys on the site and 1000 women. If 9 of those guys aren't making an effort or the type those women want then guess what ........ | |||
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"I saw an earlier thread that is now full. Like us or loath us, without our contributions to being Site Supporters your Supporters fee will invariably go up. Fab is a very well priced site and the interest from us singletons is helping make it affordable The site works very well for me and is literally fab " Fab is THE ONLY site I am aware of, which I, as a single male, can use completely free of charge, to meet likeminded single ladies, or couples looking for a guy for extra fun. I’ve been using this site for 13 years now, and have paid silver site supporter membership all that time, for the extra benefits it gives. Paying to use this site quite possibly wouldn’t have altered how ‘successful’ I have been over the years, but I have certainly enjoyed my time in here, and have no plans to stop using it. Compare using Fab, completely free of charge, with no restrictions access 24-7, to visiting a swinger club as a single guy; only ‘allowed’ in at certain times, often quite horrendous gender-biased fees, and rarely genuinely welcomed or included once inside….. 
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