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"Although I don't drive It said on the radio today that some new cars might cost 2.5k a year in road tax. That is a staggering amount even in London but surely they should keep their part of the bargain and repair the potholes.. " This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, it's actually the local councils and money from council tax where highways agencies in the UK get their Pot Hole repair money. Road tax ot Car tax is now called Vehicle Excise Duty! | |||
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"Although I don't drive It said on the radio today that some new cars might cost 2.5k a year in road tax. That is a staggering amount even in London but surely they should keep their part of the bargain and repair the potholes.. This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, it's actually the local councils and money from council tax where highways agencies in the UK get their Pot Hole repair money. Road tax ot Car tax is now called Vehicle Excise Duty!" Been called VED since 1888, road and car tax is just a colloquialism of its name | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. " Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions | |||
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" This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, " This reminds me of that meme, where some guy is calling everything that he doesn't like woke.  | |||
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"The war on the motorist is strong with this government. They are not pulling their punches, that’s for sure. " The imminent car tax changes were announced in the 2015 budget. Remind me who the government was then......🤔🤔 | |||
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"Although I don't drive It said on the radio today that some new cars might cost 2.5k a year in road tax. That is a staggering amount even in London but surely they should keep their part of the bargain and repair the potholes.. This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, it's actually the local councils and money from council tax where highways agencies in the UK get their Pot Hole repair money. Road tax ot Car tax is now called Vehicle Excise Duty!" How the hell did you manage to shoehorn “woke” into a discussion about car tax?  | |||
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"Although I don't drive It said on the radio today that some new cars might cost 2.5k a year in road tax. That is a staggering amount even in London but surely they should keep their part of the bargain and repair the potholes.. This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, it's actually the local councils and money from council tax where highways agencies in the UK get their Pot Hole repair money. Road tax ot Car tax is now called Vehicle Excise Duty!" So the person correcting the usage of inaccurate name is just doing exactly that
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions " If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. " If you buy a brand new car then I think the tax is the least of your worries because you have probably written off a large percentage of the cars value just by driving it off the forecourt. If you are happy throwing that sort of money away then I don’t see why you would complain about the tax. | |||
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"Although I don't drive It said on the radio today that some new cars might cost 2.5k a year in road tax. That is a staggering amount even in London but surely they should keep their part of the bargain and repair the potholes.. This is the frustrating thing... It's no longer called road tax - therefore the argument the WOKE people would say isn't valid - even though it feels like it should be, it's actually the local councils and money from council tax where highways agencies in the UK get their Pot Hole repair money. Road tax ot Car tax is now called Vehicle Excise Duty!" You seem a bit confused about what you've been told woke means..  | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. If you buy a brand new car then I think the tax is the least of your worries because you have probably written off a large percentage of the cars value just by driving it off the forecourt. If you are happy throwing that sort of money away then I don’t see why you would complain about the tax." I hate this, honestly how many people buy a car and put it up for sale the moment they drive off the forecourt? The only issue is if it got written off, but the same thing goes for any car you buy. | |||
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"The war on the motorist is strong with this government. They are not pulling their punches, that’s for sure. The imminent car tax changes were announced in the 2015 budget. Remind me who the government was then......🤔🤔" Yeah my in-laws bought a hybrid car 2/3 years ago, mainly because my father in-law thought he'd get away from paying tax, imagine his shock when he discovered he had to pay luxury car duty for the first 3 years. | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. If you buy a brand new car then I think the tax is the least of your worries because you have probably written off a large percentage of the cars value just by driving it off the forecourt. If you are happy throwing that sort of money away then I don’t see why you would complain about the tax. I hate this, honestly how many people buy a car and put it up for sale the moment they drive off the forecourt? The only issue is if it got written off, but the same thing goes for any car you buy. " If this was true, why are nearly new cars just as expensive as new? It’s just an old trope. | |||
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"If Elon carries on at Tesla they will be giving them away for free in 6 months and everybody can have one and we all pay fuck all tax "I saw something about people having their electric Tesla’s vandalised by groups who love don’t like musk? One guy is even rumoured to have damaged his own car in protest! | |||
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"If Elon carries on at Tesla they will be giving them away for free in 6 months and everybody can have one and we all pay fuck all tax
I saw something about people having their electric Tesla’s vandalised by groups who love don’t like musk? One guy is even rumoured to have damaged his own car in protest! "Stupid is as stupid does. | |||
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"If Elon carries on at Tesla they will be giving them away for free in 6 months and everybody can have one and we all pay fuck all tax
I saw something about people having their electric Tesla’s vandalised by groups who love don’t like musk? One guy is even rumoured to have damaged his own car in protest! "I one saw that a Buddhist monk set himself on fire in protest. Pretty startling stuff but not sure what he was protesting about which surely defeats the object. | |||
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"Everything that uses the roads (including bicycles) should pay for the use of the roads..wear and tear is wear and tear. I understand a lorry may have more weight than a bicycle and cause more damage, therefore tax should be relative... But there should not be any tax free options. Maybe cheaper but not completely free. That causes division when one is subsidising the other, that's unfair... Especially when you consider the Weight of an EV... I also think cyclists should have some form of insurance as well.. again it's not fair that they can hit something, person or vehicle and simply go unpunished. They are bound by the same basic road rules as everything else so why be allowed to be treated differently?" It would be better to sort out all the uninsured cars, vans and trucks first and all the people with the wrong cover than worrying about a few cycles who are probably already insured on a house hold insurance policy. Taxing bicycles would cost more than it would raise and would be unenforceable. There are more important issues to sort out first | |||
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"Everything that uses the roads (including bicycles) should pay for the use of the roads..wear and tear is wear and tear. I understand a lorry may have more weight than a bicycle and cause more damage, therefore tax should be relative... But there should not be any tax free options. Maybe cheaper but not completely free. That causes division when one is subsidising the other, that's unfair... Especially when you consider the Weight of an EV... I also think cyclists should have some form of insurance as well.. again it's not fair that they can hit something, person or vehicle and simply go unpunished. They are bound by the same basic road rules as everything else so why be allowed to be treated differently?" Yes, pedestrians also. They walk around oblivious to the world, jaywalking in front of the real kings of the road. And who cops it if you run one over? Yes you guessed it, the motorist. Tax and insurance for pedestrians should be mandatory. | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions " its a combination of both now . fortunately I drive an oldish diesel fiesta which is low CO2 £20 & classic cars that are zero | |||
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"Everything that uses the roads (including bicycles) should pay for the use of the roads..wear and tear is wear and tear. I understand a lorry may have more weight than a bicycle and cause more damage, therefore tax should be relative... But there should not be any tax free options. Maybe cheaper but not completely free. That causes division when one is subsidising the other, that's unfair... Especially when you consider the Weight of an EV... I also think cyclists should have some form of insurance as well.. again it's not fair that they can hit something, person or vehicle and simply go unpunished. They are bound by the same basic road rules as everything else so why be allowed to be treated differently?" Bring back the cycling proficiency test I say...make sure they have a license to use the road too!! | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. If you buy a brand new car then I think the tax is the least of your worries because you have probably written off a large percentage of the cars value just by driving it off the forecourt. If you are happy throwing that sort of money away then I don’t see why you would complain about the tax. I hate this, honestly how many people buy a car and put it up for sale the moment they drive off the forecourt? The only issue is if it got written off, but the same thing goes for any car you buy. " That's what GAP insurance is for. | |||
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" Its all relative to the cars value. Is it? I thought it was based on how polluting/CO2 emissions If you buy a car that costs over 50k brand new, you automatically pay a super tax for the first 4 or 5 years. Then it goes back to being based on emissions. If you buy a brand new car then I think the tax is the least of your worries because you have probably written off a large percentage of the cars value just by driving it off the forecourt. If you are happy throwing that sort of money away then I don’t see why you would complain about the tax. I hate this, honestly how many people buy a car and put it up for sale the moment they drive off the forecourt? The only issue is if it got written off, but the same thing goes for any car you buy. That's what GAP insurance is for." However, you buy a car whether it’s new or almost new or old, with Cache that could be earning interest, or finance that’s paying interest, or some kind of hybrid lease, that is gonna be a £cost per year of owning & maintaining that asset and also a relative benefit. I just bought a 2019 SUV and put a new timing belt and clutch in as it was knackered. The tax only £190, the vehicle cost me less than four grand and is now worth six | |||
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"The war on the motorist is strong with this government. They are not pulling their punches, that’s for sure. " in which way | |||
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"Everything that uses the roads (including bicycles) should pay for the use of the roads..wear and tear is wear and tear. I understand a lorry may have more weight than a bicycle and cause more damage, therefore tax should be relative... But there should not be any tax free options. Maybe cheaper but not completely free. That causes division when one is subsidising the other, that's unfair... Especially when you consider the Weight of an EV... I also think cyclists should have some form of insurance as well.. again it's not fair that they can hit something, person or vehicle and simply go unpunished. They are bound by the same basic road rules as everything else so why be allowed to be treated differently?" They are not anymore… EVs and hybrids are basically coming under the same ish rules… So in the first year of a EV/hybrid life… the duty is 10 pounds… after that it is 195 pounds per year currently If you buy a EV/ hybrid after April 1st, if the original OTR list price is over 40k, and this is where people are going to get caught out cause no one pays the OTR price, then after year 1 at 10 pounds, in years 2,3,4,5 and 6 of that car’s life they pay the 195 pounds…. Plus a supplement of 410 pounds … so they pay 605 per year for 5 years before dropping back to 195…. But the difference in tax/duty between an 39950 OTR car and a 40050 OTR car is 2050 pounds extra over 6 years! | |||
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