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"Um. Who says you can’t have a relationship with them? Mrs TMN x" This 💯% 🤷♂️ | |||
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"You can potentially. But a casual hookup and sharing the same wants, values and commitments are two very different things. " Are wants, values and commitments mutually incompatible with people of different races, cultures or religious when it comes to sex and relationships? There often seems to be assumptions made that there are, when there often aren't. | |||
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"It depends on the background of the person, if you want to marry or have a relationship with a person whose family are religious Jews or Muslims. You're going to have a hard time being accepted unless you converted. Large parts of the world aren't like the West where religion isn't a big deal anymore." My family are religious. It's never been a factor in my relationship choices. Not everyone conforms to the religious choices of family. | |||
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"You can potentially. But a casual hookup and sharing the same wants, values and commitments are two very different things. Are wants, values and commitments mutually incompatible with people of different races, cultures or religious when it comes to sex and relationships? There often seems to be assumptions made that there are, when there often aren't. " No, it's base on the individual is what I was actually getting at. Sex is just a physical act in the end. A relationship requires more than that. Race and colour of skin have no bearing and mutual trust, understanding and compatibility are more important surely. | |||
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"Wow at some of the comments on this already." Fancy some of my popcorn? 🍿 | |||
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"It depends on the background of the person, if you want to marry or have a relationship with a person whose family are religious Jews or Muslims. You're going to have a hard time being accepted unless you converted. Large parts of the world aren't like the West where religion isn't a big deal anymore. My family are religious. It's never been a factor in my relationship choices. Not everyone conforms to the religious choices of family. " Oh yeah true... I guess I'm just speaking from my experiences. Used to do a lot of jobs when I was a child with my Uncle and he had dealings with both Jews and Muslims mostly in Manchester. Where religious identity was strong with them compared to the rest of the population. | |||
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"If you can have sex or f**k someone who is not the same culture/skin colour/religion etc as you, why can't you have a relationship with them? This question doesn't apply to everyone, it may just be a few." Because their family and community would not accept you as a partner, you are incompatible for marriage or serious relationship even if you converted to our religion, the culture is incompatible | |||
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"A big part of the world makes a massive issue of religion, not like we in Europe and the “west” in general. Not our fault if some people are stuck in mediaeval times. Purely from the point of view of forming relationships with these people, I would avoid some of them like the plague. I could be perfectly happy if we could both keep our religion, but they shouldn’t expect me to change and become a Orthodox Jew/practicing Muslim or a pastafarian. My two cents, obviously " Yep. The Catholic church's stance contraception, abortion and homosexuality is definitely archaic. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"A big part of the world makes a massive issue of religion, not like we in Europe and the “west” in general. Not our fault if some people are stuck in mediaeval times. Purely from the point of view of forming relationships with these people, I would avoid some of them like the plague. I could be perfectly happy if we could both keep our religion, but they shouldn’t expect me to change and become a Orthodox Jew/practicing Muslim or a pastafarian. My two cents, obviously " It has very little to do with religion. Most people’s values come from their culture, not from their religion. Incompatible values are the main reason these relationships don’t work. Most parts of the world makes very little fuss over religion far less than than European atheists make of it. Most people in the world have a religion or faith Western European atheism is a small exception on the global scale. And still within this you find people with faith. They will often hope for things to happen in spite of their being zero scientific evidence that hope works. They will often be superstitious and sometimes even pray in the darkest times even though they claim not to believe in God! Religion for most is just a normal part of their life and on the whole other than a few backward dictatorships people don’t care what religion you are. But they care a lot about your culture and your values. | |||
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"Wow at some of the comments on this already." Everyone shows themselves eventually | |||
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"A big part of the world makes a massive issue of religion, not like we in Europe and the “west” in general. Not our fault if some people are stuck in mediaeval times. Purely from the point of view of forming relationships with these people, I would avoid some of them like the plague. I could be perfectly happy if we could both keep our religion, but they shouldn’t expect me to change and become a Orthodox Jew/practicing Muslim or a pastafarian. My two cents, obviously It has very little to do with religion. Most people’s values come from their culture, not from their religion. Incompatible values are the main reason these relationships don’t work. Most parts of the world makes very little fuss over religion far less than than European atheists make of it. Most people in the world have a religion or faith Western European atheism is a small exception on the global scale. And still within this you find people with faith. They will often hope for things to happen in spite of their being zero scientific evidence that hope works. They will often be superstitious and sometimes even pray in the darkest times even though they claim not to believe in God! Religion for most is just a normal part of their life and on the whole other than a few backward dictatorships people don’t care what religion you are. But they care a lot about your culture and your values. " Interesting you should say that because in Iran for example. Most people there identify as agnostic or not religious at all. This considering the govt there has been classified as an Islamic Republic since 1979. | |||
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"If you can have sex or f**k someone who is not the same culture/skin colour/religion etc as you, why can't you have a relationship with them? This question doesn't apply to everyone, it may just be a few." I honestly don't know, it's never cropped up for me so I don't have a Scooby, Mrs x | |||
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"A big part of the world makes a massive issue of religion, not like we in Europe and the “west” in general. Not our fault if some people are stuck in mediaeval times. Purely from the point of view of forming relationships with these people, I would avoid some of them like the plague. I could be perfectly happy if we could both keep our religion, but they shouldn’t expect me to change and become a Orthodox Jew/practicing Muslim or a pastafarian. My two cents, obviously It has very little to do with religion. Most people’s values come from their culture, not from their religion. Incompatible values are the main reason these relationships don’t work. Most parts of the world makes very little fuss over religion far less than than European atheists make of it. Most people in the world have a religion or faith Western European atheism is a small exception on the global scale. And still within this you find people with faith. They will often hope for things to happen in spite of their being zero scientific evidence that hope works. They will often be superstitious and sometimes even pray in the darkest times even though they claim not to believe in God! Religion for most is just a normal part of their life and on the whole other than a few backward dictatorships people don’t care what religion you are. But they care a lot about your culture and your values. Interesting you should say that because in Iran for example. Most people there identify as agnostic or not religious at all. This considering the govt there has been classified as an Islamic Republic since 1979. " That'll explain the recent surge in Nightclub applications then. | |||
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"You *can* but I think a lot of people worry about what our messed up society thinks of them being with someone different to their own race/religion. I'm from a very diverse town in the UK, and have a lot of friends of varying races, religions, nationalities. One of my best friends is a Muslim Pakistani male, and whenever we go out for dinner or even a walk, we often get funny looks, I've been called names by the older men and women from his 'community', and his brother has even been telephoned by someone to snitch on us, even though his family know me. That response could put someone off starting a relationship with someone. " There's a big part of this that's the reason I found it so hard to speak to other girls and women even if I was only friends with them growing up. Some communities are nosey as fuck and get their kicks trying to stir something where there isn't. I've grown out of that though and just don't give a shit anymore, but the fear and worry is there for others which I can empathise with 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Really? Good idea asking such a question, what could possibly go wrong!!! "It's a Forum. Within the rules people can ask and discuss what they like, whatever the fun police have to say on the matter. | |||
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"If religious values or cultural were so ingrained that being with me causes a family breakdown then I wouldn't get involved. A British Sikh friend of mine is settled with a white British male. She had to sacrifice her family for that. She has no regrets whatsoever. However, I wouldn't want that kind of responsibility on me that meant a partner had to make that kind of decision esp if the rship didn't work out and there would be no going back. " A friend of mine who fell in love with a woman from the British Pakistani community had a similar experience though more extreme. They had to move and cut all existing ties to avoid being found by her family who threatened violence against them both. | |||
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" There's a big part of this that's the reason I found it so hard to speak to other girls and women even if I was only friends with them growing up. Some communities are nosey as fuck and get their kicks trying to stir something where there isn't. I've grown out of that though and just don't give a shit anymore, but the fear and worry is there for others which I can empathise with 🤷♂️" 100%. Some communities are still difficult to understand, but everyday we can try and learn something new from each other 😊 | |||
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"If religious values or cultural were so ingrained that being with me causes a family breakdown then I wouldn't get involved. A British Sikh friend of mine is settled with a white British male. She had to sacrifice her family for that. She has no regrets whatsoever. However, I wouldn't want that kind of responsibility on me that meant a partner had to make that kind of decision esp if the rship didn't work out and there would be no going back. A friend of mine who fell in love with a woman from the British Pakistani community had a similar experience though more extreme. They had to move and cut all existing ties to avoid being found by her family who threatened violence against them both." Yes, hers was similar she can't ever let her parents find her. They've disowned 3 daughters and all have moved as far as they can away  | |||
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"If religious values or cultural were so ingrained that being with me causes a family breakdown then I wouldn't get involved. A British Sikh friend of mine is settled with a white British male. She had to sacrifice her family for that. She has no regrets whatsoever. However, I wouldn't want that kind of responsibility on me that meant a partner had to make that kind of decision esp if the rship didn't work out and there would be no going back. A friend of mine who fell in love with a woman from the British Pakistani community had a similar experience though more extreme. They had to move and cut all existing ties to avoid being found by her family who threatened violence against them both. Yes, hers was similar she can't ever let her parents find her. They've disowned 3 daughters and all have moved as far as they can away "Sorry My friend and his now wife are stil happily together and have a couple of great boys. As with your friend, no regrets. | |||
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"If you can have sex or f**k someone who is not the same culture/skin colour/religion etc as you, why can't you have a relationship with them? This question doesn't apply to everyone, it may just be a few." Who do you mean when using 'you' Why do you assume that 'you' can have casual sex but not a relationship ? | |||
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