FabSwingers.com forum: Sexist and racist tv programs from the 60s-70s-80s

By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

With all the scandal of historical sex abuse allegations going around at the moment it makes me look differently at the old shows of the 60s, 70s and 80s

Benny Hill,

On the Buses

etc ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love thy neighbour

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester

I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kenny Everett and Hot Gossip, and Alo Alo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bill n Ben and the old saying blob fell off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alf Garnet.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

Rising Damp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing."

Warren Mitchell who played alf garnet was a Jew whose family fled the nazis

He said the character of Alf was someone to laugh at not laugh with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Curry & Chips. A Spike Milligan show that was recorded but the BBC never dared broadcast. I don't actually know of anyone who's seen it...

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By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing.

Warren Mitchell who played alf garnet was a Jew whose family fled the nazis

He said the character of Alf was someone to laugh at not laugh with "

Problems is that did not really happen. A lot of people felt at home with his sexist, racist and very right wing ideas. It was try to make people think about how wrong these ideas where but it had the opposite effect ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Black and White Minstrel Show.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing.

Warren Mitchell who played alf garnet was a Jew whose family fled the nazis

He said the character of Alf was someone to laugh at not laugh with

Although he was almost always the butt of the joke at the end of the show, people sympathised rather than vilified his views.

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By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

To me it does demonstrate the different attitudes of people then to sexuality and racism. You can see why maybe the police were many not so eager to chase down abusers. A girl being groped or slapped on the ass is what they regularly saw on the TV sets.

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

All the Carry On Films

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To me it does demonstrate the different attitudes of people then to sexuality and racism. You can see why maybe the police were many not so eager to chase down abusers. A girl being groped or slapped on the ass is what they regularly saw on the TV sets. "

Sid James always handled the women in the "Carry On" films.

Was made to appear part of normal life.

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By *evonTantraMan
over a year ago

Ashburton

"Alf Garnet."

Alf Garnet was never racist, it was taking the piss out of racists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love Thu neighbour

So unpolitically correct

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Mind Your Language...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Captain Pugwash.

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

"Captain Pugwash.

Urban myth that plagued its creator John Ryan, who eventually won a libel case against the Guardian about it in the 1990s.

For example, the cabin boy was called Tom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Alf Garnet.

Alf Garnet was never racist, it was taking the piss out of racists."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch some of the original only fools and horses some of the terms they use u would get sent to prison for now! Like giving a lost little boy 50p and saying go get yourself an ice cream from the p#@I shop!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Curry & Chips. A Spike Milligan show that was recorded but the BBC never dared broadcast. I don't actually know of anyone who's seen it..."
i have, and i gotta be honest, yeah its offensive by todays PC standards, but i really dont think it was spike milligans intention to be offensive, it was more about the trouble that foreign people got in this country at the time turned into a comedy, i think he tried to be compassionate with it tbh. the man was a genius though, and it was hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Curry & Chips. A Spike Milligan show that was recorded but the BBC never dared broadcast. I don't actually know of anyone who's seen it... i have, and i gotta be honest, yeah its offensive by todays PC standards, but i really dont think it was spike milligans intention to be offensive, it was more about the trouble that foreign people got in this country at the time turned into a comedy, i think he tried to be compassionate with it tbh. the man was a genius though, and it was hilarious"
plus you can get all the episodes that wre made on DVD, if you look hard enough

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing.

Warren Mitchell who played alf garnet was a Jew whose family fled the nazis

He said the character of Alf was someone to laugh at not laugh with

Kind of what happens with Al Murray today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest alot of the old tv shows used to be racist and sexist and you never got complaints.Because they was funny not like the crap that's on now like big brother, I'm a celeb, x factor, the voice , Thing is nowadays you have to many of the pc brigade and to many do gooders. And it pisses me right off. Bring the old shows back I say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My grandad was just like Alf Garnett

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"To be honest alot of the old tv shows used to be racist and sexist and you never got complaints.Because they was funny not like the crap that's on now like big brother, I'm a celeb, x factor, the voice , Thing is nowadays you have to many of the pc brigade and to many do gooders. And it pisses me right off. Bring the old shows back I say.

its not down to any pc brigade, its because its wrong now as it was then..

thing is most sensible folk have realised that and moved on from it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love Thu neighbour

So unpolitically correct"

yes but if you remember , it was always the black guy that got one over on the white guy

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By *r and mrs bangerboobsCouple
over a year ago

Bridgend

Bullseye! Happened to catch a few minutes on one of the sky repeats channels! Crikey, Jim Bowen would be arrested and locked up these days for all the ***ism comments on all topics!

Mrs BB X x

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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago

Bridgwater - Somerset

The past is a foreign country - the border is closed.

Love thy neighbour is and was racist and deeply un-funny IMHO, but was popular.

Till Death worked both ways, if you were racist etc. you sided with Alf, if you were not, and recognised the irony, you did not.

It's intention was to make fun of Alf and his attitudes, nice try.

Benny Hill and hot gossip - anyone on here got anything against half naked women?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right so I'm not sensible then surrey ? Im a sensible hard working tax payer that should be allowed to express my opinions. But because of this pc brigade and too many do gooders the country is on it's arse. Britan is not the same as it was then. It has been destroyed by people stuck up there own arses and foreigners been able to come and go when they want !! Rant over !

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"I loved In Sickness & In Health but looking back it was embarrassing.

Warren Mitchell who played alf garnet was a Jew whose family fled the nazis

He said the character of Alf was someone to laugh at not laugh with "

Not to mention Alf actually liked Winston...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

seems the only person with their head stuck up their arse is you HULLBLOKE. Mut smell shitty up there

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By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"seems the only person with their head stuck up their arse is you HULLBLOKE. Mut smell shitty up there"

I am guessing he votes UKIP ... hehe

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

its not down to any pc brigade, its because its wrong now as it was then..

thing is most sensible folk have realised that and moved on from it..

My parents, my dad particularly loved the Black and White Minstrels, Love Thy Neighbour et al, he thought they were hilarious. They were immigrants from Jamaica, treated appallingly by people who invited them to come and help rebuild the "motherland" after the war, so seeing black people on tv, even blacked up ones, cheered them up in a strange way.

That said...I can't take offense at Rising Damp...Rigsby: classic!

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

So ...... racism is ok then yeh???

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"Alf Garnet.

Alf Garnet was never racist, it was taking the piss out of racists."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not racist at all a couple of my friends are black. And my ex was Chinese/ English. All I'm saying is the country is fucked up. You never heard of it years ago everybody seemed happy. Now you carnt even fart without someone making a complaint or trying to put a claim against you.

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By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"Im not racist at all a couple of my friends are black. And my ex was Chinese/ English. All I'm saying is the country is fucked up. You never heard of it years ago everybody seemed happy. Now you carnt even fart without someone making a complaint or trying to put a claim against you. "

Are maybe you need to see my 'Free Country' Topic ... lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always thought Alf Garnet was in Emmerdale?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Black and White Minstrel Show."

That reminds of my nan on a Sunday night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always thought Alf Garnet was in Emmerdale?"

Sorry but that did make me laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love thy neighbour "

That was one of my fav's growing up, oh dear the thought of it now makes me cringe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It still happens now, only thing different is.... A black man can stand on stage and joke about black men, a ginger person can, a few weeks ago I watched a young boy in a wheelchair on britains got talent, he was taking the piss out of himself and his ilness.... now if an able bodied person did that then there would have been uproar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I look at past programmes and celebs on them I could cringe!

Especially the ones with Jimmy Saville in, how did we not see it was wrong back then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many years ago, my hometown football club - Doncaster Rovers - had a black footballer. He was Charlie Williams, he was a decent player and did part-time stand-up comedy in the local working men's clubs and graduated from there to TV. Anyone remember him? He was forever taking the piss out of himself and other black people. He also told other good non-colour related jokes. One of his phrases was "Nah then me owd flower" in his native broad Yorkshire accent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Captain Pugwash.

Urban myth that plagued its creator John Ryan, who eventually won a libel case against the Guardian about it in the 1990s.

For example, the cabin boy was called Tom."

What was the urban myth? Seaman stains or master bates? Or the fact that pugwash is an Aussie euphemism for bukake?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Whenever anyone says "I'm not racist", invariably followed by "some of my friends are black" they usually are.

You are also misguided if you think people were happy "back in the day!" My parents generation had a dignity hard to imagine. Can you imagine being in your home, someone coming and knocking on your door begging for help, without a thought you go to assist leaving your family to arrive and being insulted and abused every step of the way but still staying to help. That's the reality.

When I asked my dad why he didn't answer back his response was "you don't insult someone in their home!"

I was born here...

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By *aulatv_ukTV/TS
over a year ago

Rhyl

All the old shows were of their times and its no use trying to apologise for them in 20 or 30 time the shows of today will see a lot different then than how we see them today.

All this apologising is stupid how far back do we go ? should the Vikings apologise for rape and pillage or the Saxons say sorry to the native Britons !

These things happened history can't be changed so we have to just accept it and make sure these things do not repeat themselves that's the important thing.

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By *tomCom OP Man
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"All the old shows were of their times and its no use trying to apologise for them in 20 or 30 time the shows of today will see a lot different then than how we see them today.

All this apologising is stupid how far back do we go ? should the Vikings apologise for rape and pillage or the Saxons say sorry to the native Britons !

These things happened history can't be changed so we have to just accept it and make sure these things do not repeat themselves that's the important thing."

My point is, you can see why some people thought it was ok to behave the way they did. The way they acted sexually and towards other races. They saw this sort of thing on television so thought it was almost expectable. Now 20 - 30 - 40 years on we are holding these people to account. Should we not also be hold the makers of these shows to account ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everybody seemed happy" clearly you weren't one of the people at the butt of the jokes,abuse and inability to get a job. A bloke I went to Uni with sent out 100+job applications with no response, anglicised his name on 5 applications and got five interviews. Racism isn't about jokes, it's about someone being put down because they've not got the control or power to protect themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With all the scandal of historical sex abuse allegations going around at the moment it makes me look differently at the old shows of the 60s, 70s and 80s

Benny Hill,

On the Buses

etc .."
like alot on here I grew up watching a lot of 60-70s-80s programs and for me I loved the humour and it taught me to be tolerant of others because the people who weren't on the shows we we'r watching we'r made to be the but of the jokes . So not all bad ! Great lesson to me !

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

"Many years ago, my hometown football club - Doncaster Rovers - had a black footballer. He was Charlie Williams, he was a decent player and did part-time stand-up comedy in the local working men's clubs and graduated from there to TV. Anyone remember him? He was forever taking the piss out of himself and other black people. He also told other good non-colour related jokes. One of his phrases was "Nah then me owd flower" in his native broad Yorkshire accent. "

Remember the guy well, met him a few times... top bloke

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