FabSwingers.com forum: The ability of thinking on your own.

By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

I watched an interesting thing about if one have the ability to think of their own, he mentioned how the ability to thinking of their own have gone for most people, because of how one is influenced from left, right and center,more so now with technology as ones gut feeling of a thing might not be the same, you could even say that technology have dumded down the population.

It may be a bad thing but unless you can step back from it and close it, shut it down rest of the day and say that it was an interesting argument. I am not going to let it influence me. but I am going to make my own thoughts up about it.

What is your view about it, have you the ability to think of your own and making up your own conclusion of what you have heard or are you easily influenced?

I would say that I have very good ability of it, because I like to research more into a thing too and make my own thoughts up about it

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By *icolerobbieCouple
24 weeks ago

walsall

The people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum.

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan
24 weeks ago

A den in the Glen

Not sure op but I find the people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum. 😉

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By *ools and the brainCouple
24 weeks ago

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My job requires the ability to problem solve and resolve issues as well as manual dexterity and be able to think for myself.

Ok I'm only a maintenance carpenter just a lowly shit for brain's but I assess,diagnose and resolve the problems.

I'm not solving world peace or hunger but I think the skills are transferable to pretty much any situation.

Never rush headlong into a situation without giving it a good look at first.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

I agree.

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By *ealitybitesMan
24 weeks ago

Belfast

Generally I'm one of those people who has the job done while everyone else is standing around discussing the best way of doing it.

When it comes to having an opinion on something though it's almost always based on experience and I'm comfortable saying that I don't have an opinion on something even when others tell me I should. I don't jump in with an opinion.

Not having an opinion on something seems to wind some people up more than simply expressing a different one.

I've never given in to peer pressure even as a child but at the same time I would never have said I was a freethinker. Even that word makes me roll my eyes.

I'd like to think I'm not a forum echochamber and an able to express my own thoughts rather have a herd mentality.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

I think the gen z defo have little problem

Solving or coping skills

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By *ools and the brainCouple
24 weeks ago

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"I watched an interesting thing about if one have the ability to think of their own, he mentioned how the ability to thinking of their own have gone for most people, because of how one is influenced from left, right and center,more so now with technology as ones gut feeling of a thing might not be the same, you could even say that technology have dumded down the population.

What is your view about it, have you the ability to think of your own and making up your own conclusion of what you have heard or are you easily influenced?

I would say that I have very good ability of it, because I like to research more into a thing too and make my own thoughts up about it

I will add ,it appears that people are more willing to follow influencers and be clones of each other than be actual individual and use their brains for free thought.

It's the misinformation era people blindly following the mouthpieces who prey on the hard of thinking.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"The people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum. "
Hi _icolerobbie, yes, you are right there, the people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out too

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

Reading

I think brexit and Trump says it all.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

"Not sure op but I find the people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum. 😉"

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By *ellhungvweMan
24 weeks ago

Cheltenham

If you think that everyone else is poor at critical thinking then that probably indicates your critical thinking skills are not what you think they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

I think people are easily influenced. People who pretend they aren’t are usually in denial. Sociology taught me that much.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

The NCP energy is strong in the Lounge Shag. If any political topic unfortunately appears you can pretty much guarantee who will post and what they'll say, regardless of the subject. If you post in the Politics thread there's a much broader and more considered range of opinions, often backed up by research rather than just a woke word salad.

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

But yeah I think I mostly think for myself. I remember watching a documentary where Bourdieu talked about sociology as a martial art and questioning the motivations of social actors. That’s been life changing.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

I think you'd enjoy a book called Thinking Fast and Slow by Nobel winner Daniel Kahnman, Shag. Really good on how our thought processes actually work and how we might ammend them by recognition.

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By *uchessdoeWoman
24 weeks ago

Northampton

I possess adequate critical thinking skills, built up through education and my job, but I'll admit to being influenced, and that's not always a negative thing. I can be influenced by someone else telling me about their lived experience; it's useful to consider other people's perspectives on a certain topic so you don't live constantly in your own echo chamber. Actively listening to other people, from all walks of life, is the best thing you can do.

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By *oldyoudown41Man
24 weeks ago

Oxfordshire

When it comes to ladies I am unbelievably inept at thinking at all .. but another part of me is in full swing and thinking on its own ..

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By *rHotNottsMan
24 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Lots of people think they are thinking for themselves, but unless you understand your biases you probably aren’t. No one can claim

Not to be influenced by external things, even the most self-aware people.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex

Very, very few people if any are free if outside influence. Some are more able to think independently than others though

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By *ude LawMan
24 weeks ago

Harrogate

That's a deep question, Shag! The rise of social media and AI does seem to influence the way people think, shaping opinions, desires, and even beliefs through algorithms and constant connectivity. While humans still have the capacity for independent thought, it's definitely harder to maintain that autonomy. We’re constantly exposed to curated content, personalized ads, and even trending ideas that can subtly shape how we view the world.

But independent thought isn't just about rejecting external influence. It's more about critical thinking, questioning assumptions, and being aware of biases. If we can step back from the noise and reflect on our own experiences and reasoning, that’s where genuine independent thought can still emerge.

What do you think, Shag? Do you feel like you have room for independent thought in today's world?

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By *rHotNottsMan
24 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I think you'd enjoy a book called Thinking Fast and Slow by Nobel winner Daniel Kahnman, Shag. Really good on how our thought processes actually work and how we might ammend them by recognition."

My boss bought me this a few years ago as I had two introverts in my team, I really couldn’t get on with this book. It felt way too academic and not practical.

I would post-truth by Lee McIntyre, because it gives very specific examples of how people feel being form more important than truth. Ot does this with quotes from politics and media, you have challenged people on the facts and they have admitted that the truth is no longer important. It’s how people feel that matters.

I think this is a really important concept in the post-truth/misinforation era to understand that how people feel is often more important than the truth.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

"I think you'd enjoy a book called Thinking Fast and Slow by Nobel winner Daniel Kahnman, Shag. Really good on how our thought processes actually work and how we might ammend them by recognition.

My boss bought me this a few years ago as I had two introverts in my team, I really couldn’t get on with this book. It felt way too academic and not practical.

I think this is a really important concept in the post-truth/misinforation era to understand that how people feel is often more important than the truth.

I don't really accept the premise of a 'post truth era' ! Social media has obviously revolutionised the way we access information but our brain functions haven't changed. Humans have always been drawn to untruths they find comforting or useful (religion, myths, etc) and the urge to be part of an homogeneous social group is one of our strongest evolutionary impulses.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

Reading

"The NCP energy is strong in the Lounge Shag. If any political topic unfortunately appears you can pretty much guarantee who will post and what they'll say, regardless of the subject. If you post in the Politics thread there's a much broader and more considered range of opinions, often backed up by research rather than just a woke word salad."

What's NCP energy?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

Reading

"I think you'd enjoy a book called Thinking Fast and Slow by Nobel winner Daniel Kahnman, Shag. Really good on how our thought processes actually work and how we might ammend them by recognition.

My boss bought me this a few years ago as I had two introverts in my team, I really couldn’t get on with this book. It felt way too academic and not practical.

I think this is a really important concept in the post-truth/misinforation era to understand that how people feel is often more important than the truth.

He has some interesting you tube videos

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

What's NCP energy?"

Non character player.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"My job requires the ability to problem solve and resolve issues as well as manual dexterity and be able to think for myself.

Ok I'm only a maintenance carpenter just a lowly shit for brain's but I assess,diagnose and resolve the problems.

I'm not solving world peace or hunger but I think the skills are transferable to pretty much any situation.

Never rush headlong into a situation without giving it a good look at first."
Hi joolsandthebrain, that is good how your job requires the ability to problem solve and resolve issues, yes, those are also good skills to have too

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

What's NCP energy?

Non character player."

I thought it was non controllable player?

Or npc- non playable character?

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

I really dislike jumping into conclusion on anything, and I’d rather take all the information in and form my own opinions and views (something that is akin to Taboo these days!).

I am fortunate to have a role which fostered that way of thinking, challenging more, asking questions and researching before answering and helping me to think.

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By *otally BenettonCouple
24 weeks ago

shropshire

"Not sure op but I find the people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum. 😉"

This is brilliant and deserved more recognition. Well I think it did.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

Or npc- non playable character?"

You are right. This is why I never use National Car Parks. 🤣

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By (user no longer on site)
24 weeks ago

Or npc- non playable character?

You are right. This is why I never use National Car Parks. 🤣"

Very good

but according to Reddit you’re also right

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
24 weeks ago

Reading

What's NCP energy?

Non character player."

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"I think people are easily influenced. People who pretend they aren’t are usually in denial. Sociology taught me that much. "
Yes. I also think people are easily influenced too

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan
24 weeks ago

A den in the Glen

"Not sure op but I find the people who can think for themselves on these forums stand out a mile compared to the people who just parrot nonsense from all sides of the spectrum. 😉

This is brilliant and deserved more recognition. Well I think it did."

Lol thanks. It's been drowned out by all the people that know what they are talking about and I don't. 😂

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By *midnight-Woman
24 weeks ago

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Free thought, free will and critical thinking are dangerous to the global power structures

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Central

I'm pretty good and get help and support, if not.

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By *lowupdollTV/TS
24 weeks ago

Herts/Beds/Leeds/London

I’ve already made my mind up about everything. Literally everything. Timesaver.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Very, very few people if any are free if outside influence. Some are more able to think independently than others though"
Hi nicecouple, yes, you are right there, some are also more able to think independently than others too

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
24 weeks ago

London

If someone agrees with me then they are a freethinker and capable of thinking for themselves because this validates my own belief that I am a big smart freethinker. If they disagree with me then they are a sheep/npc

Think I've got that right.

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By *eoBloomsMan
24 weeks ago

Springfield

"If someone agrees with me then they are a freethinker and capable of thinking for themselves because this validates my own belief that I am a big smart freethinker. If they disagree with me then they are a sheep/npc

Think I've got that right."

Fair !

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonight OP Man
24 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

"Generally I'm one of those people who has the job done while everyone else is standing around discussing the best way of doing it.

Not having an opinion on something seems to wind some people up more than simply expressing a different one.

I've never given in to peer pressure even as a child but at the same time I would never have said I was a freethinker. Even that word makes me roll my eyes.

I'd like to think I'm not a forum echochamber and an able to express my own thoughts rather have a herd mentality.

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That is also good to not jump in with an opinion too

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