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"I think that as you get older you learn that a lot of things that you thought mattered, don’t. " Sums ageing up perfectly.... | |||
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"I think that as you get older you learn that a lot of things that you thought mattered, don’t. " Or don't matter now. I suspect a lot of what we think matters when we are young comes from biology and is based around our innate drive to reproduce - looks (to attract a mate), a good career (to attract a mate), social standing (to attract a mate). At the time we are not aware of *why* we think things are important and most would deny that our behaviour is aimed at attracting others (you only have to read the endless threads of people claiming they wear sexy clothes for themselves to see this) but when you see a type of behaviour that's common to nearly all people at all times in history, it's a pretty good bet it's innate, not just billions of people randomly choosing the same behaviour patterns. P | |||
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"You get exposed to new ideas and experiences through life but I don't think wisdom is just an accumulation of experiences. It requires these experiences to be learnt from, used to inform new ways of thinking. I think some people are so self centred they can live a life exposed to others and never learn anything from it. Others definitely get wiser as they get older. On a personal level, I've changed in various ways with age. Whether that counts as wisdom is for someone else to say I on the whole agree being a mature single gent Who has never lived with someone I know I would struggle with that but believe I learn something new everyday so never stop learning in life P" | |||
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"I think that as you get older you learn that a lot of things that you thought mattered, don’t. Or don't matter now. I suspect a lot of what we think matters when we are young comes from biology and is based around our innate drive to reproduce - looks (to attract a mate), a good career (to attract a mate), social standing (to attract a mate). At the time we are not aware of *why* we think things are important and most would deny that our behaviour is aimed at attracting others (you only have to read the endless threads of people claiming they wear sexy clothes for themselves to see this) but when you see a type of behaviour that's common to nearly all people at all times in history, it's a pretty good bet it's innate, not just billions of people randomly choosing the same behaviour patterns. P" Very interesting viewpoint.  | |||
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"In some respects maybe; I’m definitely getting wilder as I get older and making up for lost time " Me too, I’m not just going to fade away Some of that wisdom gained with age makes you realise that you must live life to the fullest. | |||
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"You get exposed to new ideas and experiences through life but I don't think wisdom is just an accumulation of experiences. It requires these experiences to be learnt from, used to inform new ways of thinking. I think some people are so self centred they can live a life exposed to others and never learn anything from it. Others definitely get wiser as they get older. On a personal level, I've changed in various ways with age. Whether that counts as wisdom is for someone else to say P" I really like this comment. Age isn't a guarantee of wisdom but you're more likely to have learned from past experiences and recognise patterns both in your own and others' behaviour. | |||
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"Not for me Still a kid at heart" As in playful? Does that mean you can’t also have grown in wisdom? | |||
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"I think that as you get older you learn that a lot of things that you thought mattered, don’t. " Ah I recognise that. Is it wisdom or experience? Or are they the same? | |||
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"Yes i think so on the whole. I am getting better at protecting myself." Ah ok. Learning through experience? | |||
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"You get exposed to new ideas and experiences through life but I don't think wisdom is just an accumulation of experiences. It requires these experiences to be learnt from, used to inform new ways of thinking. I think some people are so self centred they can live a life exposed to others and never learn anything from it. Others definitely get wiser as they get older. On a personal level, I've changed in various ways with age. Whether that counts as wisdom is for someone else to say P" Interesting. So unless you are learning and changing through experiences you don’t consider that to be growing in wisdom? | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init" I can’t tell if this is serious or not so I’m going to take it as serious - is that what it is? | |||
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"Without doubt - I'd hate to meet my 20 or 30 year old self" Why? | |||
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"Not for me Still a kid at heart" She said wiser, not grumpier. Being a child at heart is a wisdom in itself | |||
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"No point in gettin’ older if you ain’t gettin’ any wiser. " Isn’t there? | |||
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"I think I've always been older and wiser" You can’t always have been older? | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init" Young people usually use this retort because young folks think they know everything! | |||
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"In some respects maybe; I’m definitely getting wilder as I get older and making up for lost time " Do you think that’s tied in to wisdom? | |||
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"Older, gained a lot of experience, confidence and learnt many life lessons.. but wiser ? Nah.... I still do dumb shit and get led by my dick "So… you don’t think you’ve gained wisdom whilst learning life lessons? Or do you have a different perspective on doing dumb shit now? | |||
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"Don’t think I’m getting any wiser, just give less of a shit these days. That’s given me more confidence in myself, which in turn has brought me to be more happy in general. " So you wouldn’t characterise that as wisdom? | |||
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"Not sure about wiser. I just hope greater experience brings a wider perspective on life, although not always the case." Are you talking about yourself or others? | |||
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"Hell no. I still make the same stupid mistakes." Owning it! | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init I can’t tell if this is serious or not so I’m going to take it as serious - is that what it is?" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. (I’m not a young person btw) | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init Young people usually use this retort because young folks think they know everything! " Young people don’t think they know everything. They think older people don’t know everything. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though "This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know. | |||
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"Overall, yes However, I still reserve the right to be childish when the mood takes me "Does that mean you can’t be wise? | |||
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"Hell no. I still make the same stupid mistakes. Owning it!"But surely you are wiser as you know they are stupid mistakes. Being wiser doesn't necessarily mean that you act upon that said wisdom | |||
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"I hadn't realised how unconfident I was until I joined fabswingers after 30 years of good marriage and sex to suddenly find I had to start communicating with other people discussing things that had never needed saying for years, I've grown wiser very quickly" Sounds like a huge change, lots to learn! | |||
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"Id say we do as I always took wisdom to be the accumulation of life experiences which I feel is seperate from knowledge and maturity. I'd like to think people can be a kid at heart and wise at the same time" I’m pretty much of this mind. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know. "Definitely a misquote. It's impossible to know what you don't know as you don't know it....... The Quote from Plato writing on Socrates ( paraphrased by me ) ' I am wise because I recognise my own ignorance. I know that I don't know everything.'... | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know. "It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past  | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init I can’t tell if this is serious or not so I’m going to take it as serious - is that what it is? Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. (I’m not a young person btw)" Judging by the demographics of the forum, you are a younger person
I hear you. I have defo seen it used to dismiss younger people, particularly those with different values or ideas to the older person.
But as devil’s advocate, from personal experience there are things I couldn’t understand or grasp until I was older and had been through various life experiences. I don’t say that gives me wisdom, but it does at times give me a perspective which I didn’t have when younger. I think part of that is wisdom, to me. | |||
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"I did get a giggle from the kid in their 20s claiming not to be young..." Me too but only if they are pleasant fun types with good humour and sans hatred. So many bitter ones about ( of all ages) | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
Definitely a misquote. It's impossible to know what you don't know as you don't know it.......
The Quote from Plato writing on Socrates ( paraphrased by me ) ' I am wise because I recognise my own ignorance. I know that I don't know everything.'..."Definitely quoting what my dad says correctly. He may be misquoting though. The point for him anyway is that you're aware that you don't know things. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
Definitely a misquote. It's impossible to know what you don't know as you don't know it.......
The Quote from Plato writing on Socrates ( paraphrased by me ) ' I am wise because I recognise my own ignorance. I know that I don't know everything.'..."GC keeping us right on our quotes. Now that’s wisdom | |||
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"I don’t think age has anything to do with being wiser Possibly that you have more lived experiences be wise of your age but that’s not to say someone 20 years younger than me hasn’t had the same lived experiences or more than me " I agree Cookie, I've come across some young people in my life that I find are wise beyond their years and I've also come across older people that are still oblivious and thick as two short planks. Personally for me, I'd like to think I've grown wiser with age, I still make silly mistakes, but that wisdom of life experiences helps me better navigate those mistakes. | |||
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"I did get a giggle from the kid in their 20s claiming not to be young..." That is their perspective. You have yours. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past "Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise? | |||
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"I don’t think age has anything to do with being wiser Possibly that you have more lived experiences be wise of your age but that’s not to say someone 20 years younger than me hasn’t had the same lived experiences or more than me " I'd say others is irrelevant. Have you got wiser with age and through lived experiences? The answer is probably yes. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past
Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise?"No I don't. I will Google | |||
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"Aging seems to be a process where all the things you wanted to do, despite your best efforts to achieve them, are still as impossible, and are also now undoable. Wisdom is understanding there's only so much you can change, and that worrying about it causes problems. Enlightenment is when you finally realise that all you need to be happy is cake. " Ooh that definition of wisdom rings true. Knowing what you can control and what you can’t and accepting it. Also, cake is always a winner | |||
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"The only wisdom I've gained is that as I get older I know less and less." Yes have had and continue to have the same experience. In fact I'm pretty sure I know less now than I did 20 years ago | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
Definitely a misquote. It's impossible to know what you don't know as you don't know it.......
The Quote from Plato writing on Socrates ( paraphrased by me ) ' I am wise because I recognise my own ignorance. I know that I don't know everything.'...
Definitely quoting what my dad says correctly. He may be misquoting though.
The point for him anyway is that you're aware that you don't know things."'Knowing what you don't know' ( ive just looked it up ) does seem to be being used too and by Daniel Kahneman , who I really respect on the subject of thought..... Basically means - find out - be ready to change your mind when you get the facts in your face.... ( humility ) | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past
Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise?"I don't see the point of it ... I know how to use it but ... ffs... | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past
Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise?
I don't see the point of it ... I know how to use it but ... ffs... "Wait a few more years, Granny, then you’ll have the wisdom to understand it. | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init I can’t tell if this is serious or not so I’m going to take it as serious - is that what it is? Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. (I’m not a young person btw) Judging by the demographics of the forum, you are a younger person
I hear you. I have defo seen it used to dismiss younger people, particularly those with different values or ideas to the older person.
But as devil’s advocate, from personal experience there are things I couldn’t understand or grasp until I was older and had been through various life experiences. I don’t say that gives me wisdom, but it does at times give me a perspective which I didn’t have when younger. I think part of that is wisdom, to me."I think experience gives you wisdom. Not ageing. Ageing alone does not make you wise. But I hear you | |||
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"No. It’s a silly thing that older people say to be condescending init I can’t tell if this is serious or not so I’m going to take it as serious - is that what it is? Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. (I’m not a young person btw) Judging by the demographics of the forum, you are a younger person
I hear you. I have defo seen it used to dismiss younger people, particularly those with different values or ideas to the older person.
But as devil’s advocate, from personal experience there are things I couldn’t understand or grasp until I was older and had been through various life experiences. I don’t say that gives me wisdom, but it does at times give me a perspective which I didn’t have when younger. I think part of that is wisdom, to me.
I think experience gives you wisdom. Not ageing. Ageing alone does not make you wise. But I hear you"By the way, I know I’m younger compared to the people in the forums. But I’m not what is often considered to be a young person (under 25). | |||
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" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening." It seems you take everything as an attack.. surely it'd be easier to just accept some things aren't? 🤷♀️ | |||
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" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. It seems you take everything as an attack.. surely it'd be easier to just accept some things aren't? 🤷♀️ " I didn’t read it like that. I read it as someone sharing their POV. | |||
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" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. It seems you take everything as an attack.. surely it'd be easier to just accept some things aren't? 🤷♀️ " In response to my comment, I feel like you’re doing a lot of reaching about what my experiences are or are not for someone that doesn’t know me. And if it was just an opportunity for you to say what you said, not based on my comment, you could always try leaving me alone Slim Shady | |||
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"Hell no. I still make the same stupid mistakes. Owning it!"Damn straight. I'm not beating it, might as well own it. | |||
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" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. It seems you take everything as an attack.. surely it'd be easier to just accept some things aren't? 🤷♀️ In response to my comment, I feel like you’re doing a lot of reaching about what my experiences are or are not for someone that doesn’t know me. And if it was just an opportunity for you to say what you said, not based on my comment, you could always try leaving me alone Slim Shady" I'm just basing it on what you post is all. I'm just saying maybe not everything is a dig. Take it however you see fit. 🤷♀️ | |||
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"Hell no. I still make the same stupid mistakes. Owning it!
Damn straight. I'm not beating it, might as well own it."Isn’t that wisdom in and of itself, though? | |||
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" Do we get wiser as we get older? No. The only people that say that to me are older people telling me I don’t know anything about how to live my own life. Wisdom doesn’t magically come to you just because you get older. That’s why many people get older and don’t get wiser. It’s a nonsense imo and it is imo used to beat younger people into listening. It seems you take everything as an attack.. surely it'd be easier to just accept some things aren't? 🤷♀️ In response to my comment, I feel like you’re doing a lot of reaching about what my experiences are or are not for someone that doesn’t know me. And if it was just an opportunity for you to say what you said, not based on my comment, you could always try leaving me alone Slim Shady I'm just basing it on what you post is all. I'm just saying maybe not everything is a dig. Take it however you see fit. 🤷♀️ " Do you think wisdom increases with age, Bella? | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x" Nope. I'm a complete f in liability | |||
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" Do you think wisdom increases with age, Bella?" Yes, I do. I'm a lot wiser now than I was say ten years ago. Life experiences obviously play a part to an extent. But I think age is the bigger factor. | |||
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"I've met some fucking idiotic and immature older men "Not only men. It's definitely Not exclusive. | |||
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" Do you think wisdom increases with age, Bella? Yes, I do. I'm a lot wiser now than I was say ten years ago. Life experiences obviously play a part to an extent. But I think age is the bigger factor." Do you think that’s true of everyone? So the older you become, the wiser you are? I’m not sure I’m wiser. I do think I understand myself better, though. | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom." That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread "Yes, but I was interested in your definition. | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition."wisdom noun the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgement; the quality of being wise. "listen to his words of wisdom" | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition.
wisdom
noun
the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgement; the quality of being wise.
"listen to his words of wisdom""Thanks, that's the dictionary definition. But we also interpret and apply words in our own ways and I was genuinely interested in how the OP defined it as she'd started the thread. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past
Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise?
I don't see the point of it ... I know how to use it but ... ffs...
Wait a few more years, Granny, then you’ll have the wisdom to understand it."TMN... I understand it. I know what it's for. I know how to use it - I don't see the wisdom of being s lave to it.... cheek ! | |||
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"I would say you can definitely be older and no wiser. Wisdom comes from experiences, absorbing new ideas and knowledge and from taking a frank look at yourself in the mirror and reflecting on your behaviors and how a different outcome could have been achieved... self awareness and consciousness are fantastic tools. I would say if you never expand your circle, knowledge or experiences then you'll pretty much stay the same person. I agree that you can have a lot of wisdom as a young person. I answered the question from my personal perspective, but on reflection I think the specific question was a general 'do we get wiser as we get older'. That i think very much depends on the work you do along the way. " So much to get into here! I think most folk have answered from their own perspective, I wasn’t thinking specifically or more widely with the OP, it was just a musing. Self-awareness and wisdom seem to go hand in hand for many folk who’ve posted on the thread. | |||
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" Do you think wisdom increases with age, Bella? Yes, I do. I'm a lot wiser now than I was say ten years ago. Life experiences obviously play a part to an extent. But I think age is the bigger factor. Do you think that’s true of everyone? So the older you become, the wiser you are? I’m not sure I’m wiser. I do think I understand myself better, though. " 'The older you become the wiser you are' ..... if said as 'As you gain experience you grow in wisdom' then yes... if it's said as 'Someone 80 is wiser than someone 35 ' then no. I would say we start off with the biological and psychological necessities to reflect and learn and accrue wisdom or we don't ..... Some simply don't have the necessaries to accrue much wisdom and some do but because of heritage pursue the same old line decade in decade out...... Great age does not equal great wisdom said Grannyfucious. | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x" women yes men no | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition."Honestly, I’m not sure I could define it. Hence my musing. Speaking personally, I think experience certainly plays a part, along with becoming more aware of other people’s different experiences and viewpoints in ways I simply wasn’t in my younger years. Learning where to expend my energy, physically and mentally, could be defined as wise. But then again, I don’t think age naturally confers wisdom on any of us, there’s more to it than that I feel. What about you? | |||
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"I wouldn’t necessarily say wiser, just have more experience of things that have happened so can reflect on things a bit more knowingly. Life stuff, romantic stuff. If I had the experiences I’ve lived through now, at 18 or in my 20’s, I’d probably do a few things differently. But then there is still stuff I’m clueless about now. And as I get older I find myself more nervous and hesitant about taking risks in life, whereas when younger I was more gung ho as I had a safety net of all my family around me who would catch me if I needed them to. " So the flip side - is being more risk averse wiser than being a risk taker? | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
It basically means you're aware that you don't know things and therefore don't make the mistake of assuming that you do. Which I have definitely done in the past
Ohhhhh yes! Do you know the Johari window exercise?
I don't see the point of it ... I know how to use it but ... ffs...
Wait a few more years, Granny, then you’ll have the wisdom to understand it.
TMN... I understand it. I know what it's for. I know how to use it - I don't see the wisdom of being s lave to it.... cheek !" | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x women yes men no" Gosh, that’s a sweeping statement! | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x women yes men no Gosh, that’s a sweeping statement!" 🧹 | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x" Older and wiser foe me means more life experiences but having joined Fab later in life means I'm just making mistakes/learning in new life experiences here. And also relying on the fact that I've gotten to this age in one piece so my judgement is probably OK. So I'm wiser in my knowledge of myself in some respect but in life? Probably not. | |||
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"Geez i still in my own head think im 21.I think most men deep down never grow up to an extent. Wouldn't necessarily say I've got wiser. Just more mature with more life experience and a realisation that there is consequences to you actions." Realising there are consequences to your actions, I hadn’t considered that but I see how it fits in. Impulsive behaviour is more likely in teenagers and those in their early twenties due to brain development, I believe? So that could be age related to an extent? | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition.
Honestly, I’m not sure I could define it. Hence my musing. Speaking personally, I think experience certainly plays a part, along with becoming more aware of other people’s different experiences and viewpoints in ways I simply wasn’t in my younger years. Learning where to expend my energy, physically and mentally, could be defined as wise.
But then again, I don’t think age naturally confers wisdom on any of us, there’s more to it than that I feel.
What about you?"I think the evidence of wisdom at any age is whether someone's actions and decisions lead to positive outcomes, at least more often than not. If I see someone who is making consistently good decisions then I'd regard them as wise. Or if your decision making improves then I'd regard you as becoming wiser. | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x Older and wiser foe me means more life experiences but having joined Fab later in life means I'm just making mistakes/learning in new life experiences here. And also relying on the fact that I've gotten to this age in one piece so my judgement is probably OK. So I'm wiser in my knowledge of myself in some respect but in life? Probably not. " Do we ever stop learning, do you think? | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition.
Honestly, I’m not sure I could define it. Hence my musing. Speaking personally, I think experience certainly plays a part, along with becoming more aware of other people’s different experiences and viewpoints in ways I simply wasn’t in my younger years. Learning where to expend my energy, physically and mentally, could be defined as wise.
But then again, I don’t think age naturally confers wisdom on any of us, there’s more to it than that I feel.
What about you?
I think the evidence of wisdom at any age is whether someone's actions and decisions lead to positive outcomes, at least more often than not. If I see someone who is making consistently good decisions then I'd regard them as wise. Or if your decision making improves then I'd regard you as becoming wiser."You’re much more action and decision driven than me! I view it more in terms of awareness and understanding. Which can then lead to actions and decisions, I guess. So do you think wisdom increases with age? | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition.
Honestly, I’m not sure I could define it. Hence my musing. Speaking personally, I think experience certainly plays a part, along with becoming more aware of other people’s different experiences and viewpoints in ways I simply wasn’t in my younger years. Learning where to expend my energy, physically and mentally, could be defined as wise.
But then again, I don’t think age naturally confers wisdom on any of us, there’s more to it than that I feel.
What about you?
I think the evidence of wisdom at any age is whether someone's actions and decisions lead to positive outcomes, at least more often than not. If I see someone who is making consistently good decisions then I'd regard them as wise. Or if your decision making improves then I'd regard you as becoming wiser.
You’re much more action and decision driven than me! I view it more in terms of awareness and understanding. Which can then lead to actions and decisions, I guess.
So do you think wisdom increases with age?"On average definitely, which of course does not mean every older person is wiser than every younger person. Put it this way, if I had an important life decision to make I'd much rather take the advice of 100 50yos than 100 30yos. | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x Older and wiser foe me means more life experiences but having joined Fab later in life means I'm just making mistakes/learning in new life experiences here. And also relying on the fact that I've gotten to this age in one piece so my judgement is probably OK. So I'm wiser in my knowledge of myself in some respect but in life? Probably not. Do we ever stop learning, do you think?" When do people start learning? Thirties, forties? | |||
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"OP how would you define wisdom. That’s what I was hoping folk would discuss on the thread
Yes, but I was interested in your definition.
Honestly, I’m not sure I could define it. Hence my musing. Speaking personally, I think experience certainly plays a part, along with becoming more aware of other people’s different experiences and viewpoints in ways I simply wasn’t in my younger years. Learning where to expend my energy, physically and mentally, could be defined as wise.
But then again, I don’t think age naturally confers wisdom on any of us, there’s more to it than that I feel.
What about you?
I think the evidence of wisdom at any age is whether someone's actions and decisions lead to positive outcomes, at least more often than not. If I see someone who is making consistently good decisions then I'd regard them as wise. Or if your decision making improves then I'd regard you as becoming wiser.
You’re much more action and decision driven than me! I view it more in terms of awareness and understanding. Which can then lead to actions and decisions, I guess.
So do you think wisdom increases with age?
On average definitely, which of course does not mean every older person is wiser than every younger person. Put it this way, if I had an important life decision to make I'd much rather take the advice of 100 50yos than 100 30yos. "Gosh, I think people vary so much in many fascinating ways I’d find it hard to make that call. It would depend on the life decision too. | |||
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"Do you think we get wiser as we get older? Do you recognise this in yourself or others? Or not? Mrs TMN x Older and wiser foe me means more life experiences but having joined Fab later in life means I'm just making mistakes/learning in new life experiences here. And also relying on the fact that I've gotten to this age in one piece so my judgement is probably OK. So I'm wiser in my knowledge of myself in some respect but in life? Probably not. Do we ever stop learning, do you think? When do people start learning? Thirties, forties? " Isn’t life one long learning? This is getting a bit “Jerry’s final thought” | |||
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"I think Brian O’Driscoll said KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWING that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Everyday is a school day no matter what age we are " And also learning that some people might like it in a fruit salad so respect their choices and no kink shaming 😉 | |||
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"I think Brian O’Driscoll said KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWING that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Everyday is a school day no matter what age we are And also learning that some people might like it in a fruit salad so respect their choices and no kink shaming 😉" I’ll message Brian straight away 😉 | |||
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"I think Brian O’Driscoll said KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWING that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Everyday is a school day no matter what age we are And also learning that some people might like it in a fruit salad so respect their choices and no kink shaming 😉" Kinky salad, ooft! Get tossing and dressing… or undressing | |||
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"I think Brian O’Driscoll said KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWING that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Everyday is a school day no matter what age we are " Forgive me Socrates but he knows not what he says....... Miles Kington ..... 1941 - 2008 for the tomato quote | |||
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"I think Brian O’Driscoll said KNOWLEDGE IS KNOWING that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Everyday is a school day no matter what age we are Forgive me Socrates but he knows not what he says....... Miles Kington ..... 1941 - 2008 for the tomato quote " What a shocker. Both so narrow minded! | |||
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"I don’t think I’m any wiser. I guess I’ve got more tolerant, less angry, less prone to frustration. " Sounds like wiser to me! Do you not think that’s wiser? | |||
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"I don’t think I’m any wiser. I guess I’ve got more tolerant, less angry, less prone to frustration. Sounds like wiser to me! Do you not think that’s wiser?" Tbh I dunno. It’s not something I spend any time pondering. | |||
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"I don’t think I’m any wiser. I guess I’ve got more tolerant, less angry, less prone to frustration. Sounds like wiser to me! Do you not think that’s wiser? Tbh I dunno. It’s not something I spend any time pondering. " Probs not the thread for you then | |||
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"I know not to put my willy between the teeth of a zip, ‘cause I’ll rip it apart. That’s me wiser, from painful experience. "Rip it apart? The willy or the zip? | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though "Wise answer 👍 | |||
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"I turned another year older today....certainly not wiser though "but certainly beautiful x | |||
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"I turned another year older today....certainly not wiser though "More filthy | |||
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"I turned another year older today....certainly not wiser though but certainly beautiful x"Thanks, your cheques in the post | |||
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"I turned another year older today....certainly not wiser though
More filthy "I'm definitely working on that | |||
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"I turned another year older today....certainly not wiser though "Happy Birthday 🎂 | |||
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"Hell no. I still make the same stupid mistakes. Owning it!
Damn straight. I'm not beating it, might as well own it.
Isn’t that wisdom in and of itself, though?"Ooo now you have me stumped as I'm unsure. To some it may seem like wisdom, to others, resignation. Guess that's up to the individual as to what they see it as. | |||
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"I used to have a fridge magnet that said 'kids, leave home while you still know everything' My dad also often says "Knowledge is knowing what you know, wisdom is knowing what you don't know". As I grow older I definitely understand that I know much less than I thought I did. I think I am wiser, I have a lot of experience of life and I can apply it. Being wiser than I was previously doesn't mean I'm a modern day Confucius though
This is an interesting take. Knowing what you don’t know.
Definitely a misquote. It's impossible to know what you don't know as you don't know it.......
The Quote from Plato writing on Socrates ( paraphrased by me ) ' I am wise because I recognise my own ignorance. I know that I don't know everything.'..."I disagree. I know that I don't know (among many things) how to knit, how to estimate the mass and orbit of an exoplanet from the wobbles in the star it orbits. There are of course things. I think these unknowns are on the boundary of knowledge with whole other skills and concepts beyond that you don't know you don't know don't. I agree with Nice that knowing where your knowledge ends and ignorance begins - plus an awareness that a world of ignorance extends beyond this boundary - is a form of wisdom. P | |||
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