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"No more so than if it is a tall guy they want. Would it be different if it was a request for a TV Thai person? I would be more worried if the BBC felt used (and did not get a kick from being used)" I think this is a fair point too. I know some black men hate the idea of being reduced to a body part, whereas I'm sure other black men see it as a marketing tool (no pun intended) that helps them get more meets. I mean, there literally club events around people meeting black guys. But although my beliefs lie on the side of the former, I also know I don't have the right to tell the latter how they should view themselves 🤷♂️ | |||
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"So ... you're just wondering if white men feel entitled to all of the options when it comes to sex and sexual partners and therefore get annoyed when certain options are closed to them? "I'm hoping the responses on here have answered the OP's question. Most including myself, don't really care. I only draw the line at when people are being disrespected for their skin colour, race or ethnic background but that it is. Everyone has types and I respect that. | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else." · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs." I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂 | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂" So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x" I didn't state it was as a fact. Can you tell me where I said that? | |||
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"I like ginger lads. The vast majority of ginger lads I see on here are into black women. That's their preference. People gonna like what they like" Hi I'm ginger  | |||
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"just wondering " No why would I ? I have zero issues with colour, if someone is an asshole that's what bugs me but tbh id never leave the house if I was worried about all the assholes in the world.  | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x I didn't state it was as a fact. Can you tell me where I said that?" I never said you said it was a fact, I'm just pointing out that assuming something from a stated preference is wrong, you did that when you agree with the statement... ".It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs". If you want to know more about someones reasoning ask them before making a judgement. Find out first before making 'belief' statements, afterall isnt that one of the major factors behind predjudice and discrimination, making rash, belief, based opinions about someone without hetting to know them first? Mrs x | |||
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"I don’t at all everyone has their own type if that’s bbc you can’t force them to like white guys personally I love girls who like bbc and I offer to clean and watch" This is a misconception. Just because someone like something, that doesn’t mean they don’t like everything else. | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x I didn't state it was as a fact. Can you tell me where I said that?I never said you said it was a fact, I'm just pointing out that assuming something from a stated preference is wrong, you did that when you agree with the statement... ".It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs". If you want to know more about someones reasoning ask them before making a judgement. Find out first before making 'belief' statements, afterall isnt that one of the major factors behind predjudice and discrimination, making rash, belief, based opinions about someone without hetting to know them first? Mrs x" He literally said in his first comment that he wonders whether it's preference or something else. You're awfully defensive about this. But I'm sure there will be no self reflection as to why you find these particular two comments have wriggled right under your skin. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x" To be honest most of the comments on this thread including mine have stated we have no issues. Now I will only have issues if it delves into racial supremacy crap about how White men are inferior to other races and of course vice versa too. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x" There's more judges on here than the Old Bailey Mrs N, no need to defend your preferences.  | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x" I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x I didn't state it was as a fact. Can you tell me where I said that?I never said you said it was a fact, I'm just pointing out that assuming something from a stated preference is wrong, you did that when you agree with the statement... ".It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs". If you want to know more about someones reasoning ask them before making a judgement. Find out first before making 'belief' statements, afterall isnt that one of the major factors behind predjudice and discrimination, making rash, belief, based opinions about someone without hetting to know them first? Mrs x He literally said in his first comment that he wonders whether it's preference or something else. You're awfully defensive about this. But I'm sure there will be no self reflection as to why you find these particular two comments have wriggled right under your skin. " From the post of his i referencing..."does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else." It's the "something else" comment. Why wonder just treat people like you'd like to be treated and not 'wonder' as to their motivations. If you want to know just ask them. Mrs x | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. · It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs. I tried to be a bit more cryptic in that regard but yes, absolutely that 😂So why is asking for something discriminatory or prejudicial. If it was for a place on a University course or for employment it would be called Inclusive and praised. But as soon as a woman states this preference, it's rooted in discrimination and prejudice. Somethings not right here... Mrs x I didn't state it was as a fact. Can you tell me where I said that? I never said you said it was a fact, I'm just pointing out that assuming something from a stated preference is wrong, you did that when you agree with the statement... ".It's usually something else, a personal experience mixed with a generalised viewpoint, further perpetuating their discriminatory beliefs". If you want to know more about someones reasoning ask them before making a judgement. Find out first before making 'belief' statements, afterall isnt that one of the major factors behind predjudice and discrimination, making rash, belief, based opinions about someone without hetting to know them first? Mrs x" I literally said that it could be based on attraction or something else. That something else is what I've experienced through speaking to people with those preferences and through seeing comments about those generalisations. So yeah, I think I have a leg to stand on with my opinion without you giving me the third degree. | |||
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"You're awfully defensive about this. But I'm sure there will be no self reflection as to why you find these particular two comments have wriggled right under your skin. From the post of his i referencing..."does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else." It's the "something else" comment. Why wonder just treat people like you'd like to be treated and not 'wonder' as to their motivations. If you want to know just ask them. Mrs x" Cool, I'll just not wonder then and assume everyone's choices are for positive reasons that would never affect me in a broader sense  | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x" i think it is because so many BBC only accounts are very racist | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x" You clearly don’t frequent many spaces where there’s a lot of Black folk, because I can absolutely confirm there can be controversy when Black men prefer white women. And that comes from other Black men, as well as Black women. 🤷🏽♀️ Saying this as a mixed woman with a white mum and Black dad lol | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. " So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x | |||
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"It affects both ways, some black guys get stress from black woman if they have a white girlfriend. Also black girls with white boyfriends get alot of heat, a friend of mine experiences this often. Yeh there's a bit of jealously even possessiveness, but really there are more bigger problems in the world than a person's sexual preference. Plenty more fish in the sea remember." One of my best friends (white) fell in love with and married a black guy- all his family completely blanked her, boycotted the wedding, etc. Eventually, the strain ended the marriage.  | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x You clearly don’t frequent many spaces where there’s a lot of Black folk, because I can absolutely confirm there can be controversy when Black men prefer white women. And that comes from other Black men, as well as Black women. 🤷🏽♀️ Saying this as a mixed woman with a white mum and Black dad lol" I'm not saying that there is no controversy I'm saying people should just assume. If you know that someone has been discriminatory or prejudicial call them out, but if you don't know for sure don't just assume. This principle is not confined to race its about all aspects of life. And who gives anyone the right to judge or condemn an honest preference. Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x i think it is because so many BBC only accounts are very racist " Well then everyone should challenge those, it's not ever acceptable, Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x" Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval  I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x There's more judges on here than the Old Bailey Mrs N, no need to defend your preferences. I'm not defending my preferences, I'm trying, badly it would seem, to defend the right for everyone to have a preference and be free from judgement, in the absence of any evidence, that such preferences are arising from anything nefarious.
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed."I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha, And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you. I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all. I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions. Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x"Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then. You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right. I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. | |||
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"Doesn't bother me in the slightest! Each to their own I say. What does annoy me, is reading a profile of someone I'd like to message, only to get to the dreaded part that says " only tall men please"! Being a short arse, this isn't ideal!! 😂😂You can get "lifts' to put in your shoes, ask Tom Cruise or maybe you'd look good in a Cuban heel like Prince, both these guys have done ok with the ladies, Mrs x" Cuban heels, not sure about those. I do ok, I was just making a joke, every one likes to be very serious. 👍 | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. "Someone got their knickers in a twist alright. Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative. Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion. Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote "...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices." So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf. Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it. If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't. So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post. In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature. So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water. So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Mrs x | |||
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"Doesn't bother me in the slightest! Each to their own I say. What does annoy me, is reading a profile of someone I'd like to message, only to get to the dreaded part that says " only tall men please"! Being a short arse, this isn't ideal!! 😂😂You can get "lifts' to put in your shoes, ask Tom Cruise or maybe you'd look good in a Cuban heel like Prince, both these guys have done ok with the ladies, Mrs x Cuban heels, not sure about those. I do ok, I was just making a joke, every one likes to be very serious. 👍" Think this was a wee joke to mate lol | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x"Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled? Whew. Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue. Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals. I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing. Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested."So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist. Wow that's really quite offensive. You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on? Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
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"She never called you racist... I never said she did. I asked if if because of my preferences could I be a racist. This was asked as she said my choices could possibly be rooted in racist ideals. Mrs x" No, I don't think someone can be racist in that regard. How many companies are still running that have ties to the sl@ve trade for example that everyone uses? It's just that you can't fathom that some racist people will share your preferences and only want those stereotypes to be seen as positive which is where the issue lies. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
"Saying that you find some Black men attractive is non problematic, the point is the people who say they ONLY will see people of a particular race. If you can find beauty in people regardless of skin tone/ phenotype, that’s a beautiful thing 🤷🏽♀️ Weirdly, I’m quite often approached by couples who state in their they won’t meet Black/ Asian men and are confused when I say I’m not going to meet them… apparently Black/ mixed WOMEN are a different thing again. I don’t stick around long enough to understand that logic, but no one will be able to convince me that it’s not based in some form of racism/ misogyny/ misogynist/ misandry anyway. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
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Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
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"She never called you racist... I never said she did. I asked if if because of my preferences could I be a racist. This was asked as she said my choices could possibly be rooted in racist ideals. Mrs x No, I don't think someone can be racist in that regard. How many companies are still running that have ties to the sl@ve trade for example that everyone uses? It's just that you can't fathom that some racist people will share your preferences and only want those stereotypes to be seen as positive which is where the issue lies." So in the absence of any facts, evidence of any kind, that leads to an objective call that someone is racist, why start from a view that they could be racist? Why not assume that they aren't. And as for discrimination and prejudice, how is a choice to meet certain groups for some sexy fun discriminatory to them? How does it prejudice them? Since both terms have negative meanings. But to actively seek out a black guys, benefits black guys even if just mathematically by cutting down the numbers of competitors looking to meet that woman. So if you were a racist, why would you choose to give pleasure to someone you feel racist towards? It just doesn't make sense and is absolutely not in my decision making when choosing to meet. Just wish people weren't so judgemental. Mrs x | |||
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"She never called you racist... I never said she did. I asked if if because of my preferences could I be a racist. This was asked as she said my choices could possibly be rooted in racist ideals. Mrs x No, I don't think someone can be racist in that regard. How many companies are still running that have ties to the sl@ve trade for example that everyone uses? It's just that you can't fathom that some racist people will share your preferences and only want those stereotypes to be seen as positive which is where the issue lies. So in the absence of any facts, evidence of any kind, that leads to an objective call that someone is racist, why start from a view that they could be racist? Why not assume that they aren't. And as for discrimination and prejudice, how is a choice to meet certain groups for some sexy fun discriminatory to them? How does it prejudice them? Since both terms have negative meanings. But to actively seek out a black guys, benefits black guys even if just mathematically by cutting down the numbers of competitors looking to meet that woman. So if you were a racist, why would you choose to give pleasure to someone you feel racist towards? It just doesn't make sense and is absolutely not in my decision making when choosing to meet. Just wish people weren't so judgemental. Mrs x " "Why not assume they aren't?" - I can't, I just can't. Be happy living in your little bubble | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? "You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist. That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface. That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything. You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute. Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha, Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x"I'm not hiding anywhere? Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right? I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here. But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity. | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x
I'm not hiding anywhere?
Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right?
I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here.
But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity.
"Odd, very, very odd. So without knowing you make judgements, by seeing past smoke and mirrors apparently. So you don't need any evidence to make your mind up about anything? So with no interactions you can make your mind up about someone, they could be or may possibly be one thing or another despite anything actually saying, or even suggesting, that they are? You must be the world's greatest judge of character, well done. But you still have not managed to answer the question of how can choosing to see someone of a particular group, for sexy fun, be racist, acknowledging that racist acts are normally done on a negative basis to a particular group? Mrs x | |||
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x
I'm not hiding anywhere?
Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right?
I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here.
But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity.
Odd, very, very odd. So without knowing you make judgements, by seeing past smoke and mirrors apparently.
So you don't need any evidence to make your mind up about anything? So with no interactions you can make your mind up about someone, they could be or may possibly be one thing or another despite anything actually saying, or even suggesting, that they are?
You must be the world's greatest judge of character, well done.
But you still have not managed to answer the question of how can choosing to see someone of a particular group, for sexy fun, be racist, acknowledging that racist acts are normally done on a negative basis to a particular group?
Mrs x"
Neither have you explained your defensiveness in your refusal to acknowledge that it could be because of racist undertones?
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x
I'm not hiding anywhere?
Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right?
I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here.
But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity.
Odd, very, very odd. So without knowing you make judgements, by seeing past smoke and mirrors apparently.
So you don't need any evidence to make your mind up about anything? So with no interactions you can make your mind up about someone, they could be or may possibly be one thing or another despite anything actually saying, or even suggesting, that they are?
You must be the world's greatest judge of character, well done.
But you still have not managed to answer the question of how can choosing to see someone of a particular group, for sexy fun, be racist, acknowledging that racist acts are normally done on a negative basis to a particular group?
Mrs x
Neither have you explained your defensiveness in your refusal to acknowledge that it could be because of racist undertones?
Seems we are at a stalemate. And I do find those rather dull."Because I have explained why I believe what I believe. For me it's a preference nothing more or less. If it was anything else then I could put up an argument but I can't because I don't think like that. You are asking me to defend myself from a position I do not have. Maybe you are talking about unconcious bias and the like but that's not relevant here. I cannot hear these unconcious choices because they are unconcious. I'm making conscious choices. I think about things, whatever I like I try to have, in all aspects of my life. Just hypothetically, say I was unconsciously bias and had a proclivity towards racism to black men, then surely my actions, my conscious actions have been able override any unconcious bias in this area. So even here, in this sort of scenario it's a win. My conscious brain beating the racism from my unconcious. No? But I cannot say this affects me because I genuinely have no thoughts of racism when making my decision. If you look at my verifications you can see I meet others who aren't black. In fact I think the first verification I got this time is from a guy whose race I don't know because I wasn't bothered to ask, I just knew I liked him, but I don't think he was black or white, just a lovely guy. So I've tried to give an answer to your question, how about you return the favour. Mrs x | |||
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"Ah. I missed it. Oh well 🎻 No Pickle, you're part of a PoSiTiVe stereotype so it's fine " it must be so hard not being Black.
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
Mrs x
Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
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Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x
I'm not hiding anywhere?
Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right?
I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here.
But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity.
Odd, very, very odd. So without knowing you make judgements, by seeing past smoke and mirrors apparently.
So you don't need any evidence to make your mind up about anything? So with no interactions you can make your mind up about someone, they could be or may possibly be one thing or another despite anything actually saying, or even suggesting, that they are?
You must be the world's greatest judge of character, well done.
But you still have not managed to answer the question of how can choosing to see someone of a particular group, for sexy fun, be racist, acknowledging that racist acts are normally done on a negative basis to a particular group?
Mrs x
Neither have you explained your defensiveness in your refusal to acknowledge that it could be because of racist undertones?
Seems we are at a stalemate. And I do find those rather dull. Because I have explained why I believe what I believe. For me it's a preference nothing more or less. If it was anything else then I could put up an argument but I can't because I don't think like that.
You are asking me to defend myself from a position I do not have.
Maybe you are talking about unconcious bias and the like but that's not relevant here. I cannot hear these unconcious choices because they are unconcious.
I'm making conscious choices. I think about things, whatever I like I try to have, in all aspects of my life.
Just hypothetically, say I was unconsciously bias and had a proclivity towards racism to black men, then surely my actions, my conscious actions have been able override any unconcious bias in this area. So even here, in this sort of scenario it's a win. My conscious brain beating the racism from my unconcious. No?
But I cannot say this affects me because I genuinely have no thoughts of racism when making my decision. If you look at my verifications you can see I meet others who aren't black. In fact I think the first verification I got this time is from a guy whose race I don't know because I wasn't bothered to ask, I just knew I liked him, but I don't think he was black or white, just a lovely guy.
So I've tried to give an answer to your question, how about you return the favour.
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"It's just a preference, nothing more nothing less. It's like having steak 6 nights a week but every Friday you fancy a curry. Nobody has an opinion on that, nobody says Ooh you are a steak girl, should you really be asking for a curry? What's your thinking about wanting a curry? I'm just going to assume it's bad anyway. But it's not a just fancy a curry, I still love steak but I want something different. It's just my preference, once a week. It should be acknowledged that my preference might change in the future, is that new preference rooted in anything or do I just fancy a change? Come on guys stop feeling ill of people without knowing them, give everyone the benefit of doubt. Also as a woman this irks me a bit. What about the Black guys themselves? Are their choices rooted in prejudice and discrimination if they play with white woman. Don't see examples of anyone challenging the Black guys about this? Seems some guys do have a problem when girls state a preference for this and it's not an issue for the girl or guy involved but it appears to be a massive issue for those guys who don't like this particular preference. Mrs x I'm honestly just pointing out your defensiveness more than anything else. You have a lot of thoughts and feelings about this. None of the above comments singled you out personally for being discriminatory. All the comments were said vaguely and generally. This thread isn't even about you. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts. Like 98% of responses have been some variation of 'nah' ...except yours. So I cannot have an opinion on preferences and how they are perceived? I cannot challenge posts that discuss prejudice or discrimination? So what can I comment on? Your thoughts would be gratefully accepted. Im aware that this may cause uou some difficulty because I know that you don't think woman should post on this thread because as you said... "This thread isn't even about...[me]. It's aimed at white men and their thoughts." You being a woman might preclude you from doing so as you've made plain that this thread isn't even about us woman, although it would be hard, for said Black guys, to reply to a profile that didn't have a woman involved in this instance. I haven't insulted anyone, just challenged a view that was posted, just like you are challenging me now, which is OK and is common practice on an open forum. I have said its best to know something about someone rather than making any assumption, something which I believe is not contentious and most people follow in their lives. Hope this let's you know where I'm coming from. I'm not defensive about my own preferences, I'm defensive about ALL preferences, yours, mine, everyone's and the notion that that's just what they are. Mrs x Gosh you really do have a preference for misunderstanding the intent with these comments. There's no Forum Police. I'm not Officer FeltCute serving you a warrant for your arrest charged with the crimes against this particular thread. All I'm pointing out is that your response to two comments that were not aimed at you or about you has stirred something deep within you. And I'm pointing out that you could spend some time reflecting on why that might be. Or you can aim more comments my way. Be sure to DM me about future comments for my approval I'll give a quick read over to see if you're allowed.I'm drawing up a provisional Approved List for your ok as we speak haha,
And you seem to have misinterpreted what I've said. Not once have I said these posts were aimed at, or addressed, to me. In fact if they had been that would confine my comments to that particular manner. The fact that they were vague spreads the net wider, implying most people who state such a preference are doing so because of something else. It's the sweeping nature of such a comment I'm challenging. Get to know people first, then decide on their character. I don't understand why this principle doesn't seem important for you.
I'm just posting regarding the principle of not thinking bad about anyone until you know for sure, have facts, evidence whatever. Like when you parents tell you as a small child that if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.
I'd be saying the same regarding any genuine preference someone expressed, if another said that people stating this preference were disingenuous about their intentions.
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Ah, you made a wise decision choosing to aim more comments at me then.
You'd like me to compile evidence on a person's character before having potentially negative thoughts about why they have certain preferences. Even though those preferences are stated as 'could be down to attraction or something else' but you have your knickers in a twist because of that possibility of something else being negative. Right.
I bet you don't realise how entitled this makes you sound. Give you the benefit of the doubt for something that you don't spend any time reflecting on yourself. Okay. Let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU. Someone got their knickers in a twist alright.
Loving the spin you are putting on the 'something else' part of the post as possibly being a good thing whilst I've immediately assumed it's negative.
Thing is, I haven't, I've read what was written and on the evidence of that I've come to a conclusion.
Firstly, if you quote from anywhere always remember that what you're trying to say can be rebuttal by someone quoting from the same source. In this case the poster wrote
"...I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices."
So that would seem to state that thre is a potential for 'rooted' stereotypes to be behind the preference expressed and, on this occasion, that's an assumption on this posters behalf.
Secondly the use of the conjunctive word 'or' between "attraction' and "something else' means that the poster was giving an alternative. So if we can assume 'attraction' is a positive in this scenario then 'something else' is the alternative to that, not the same as the word proceeding it.
If he had wanted to make them associated he should have used the word 'and" but he didn't.
So based upon the first point, he used the notion of rooted stereotypes in the first part of the post you failed to quote. An assumption on his part and an objective negative comment, which give context to the whole post.
In the second, due to the use of the word "or', he gave an alternative for the positive word 'attraction' in this case by using the phrase 'something else'. This leads the reader to believe that the phrase 'something else' is negative in nature.
So, whilst an attempt at spin, your proposition that this is a positive statement seems not to hold much water.
So thank you for your kind offer but on this occasion let me do all the work to make things easier FOR YOU.
Mrs x
Oh lady, have you just schooled me? Have I been schooled?
Whew.
Everything remains the same though. You do whatever mental gymnastics you'd like to do to avoid the actual root of the issue.
Which is that you refuse to acknowledge that potentially, allegedly, possibly your preferences and those of others could, maybe, with the right amount of evidence be rooted in racist ideals.
I know that's hard for you to sit with. But that's where we are. That's what your defensive comments are hiding. All your bluster and novel length comments at me are dancing around the same thing.
Thank you for explaining to me about conjunctive words etc. It was most enlightening. Please tell me more, I'm interested.So because I find some, not all, black guys attractive and sexy then I could be a racist.
Wow that's really quite offensive.
You know nothing about me and yet because I state one preference you can cast such a slur on me. Without one shred of evidence you can say this, what are you basing this on?
Mrs x
Do I need to share with you my file of evidence? For an opinion I have expressed in which I use the words 'possibly' 'allegedly' 'potentially' 'maybe' and 'with the right evidence' BUT DO ACTIVATE THAT SHOCK AND VICTIMHOOD that I have CAST SUCH A SLUR UPON YOU. I am indeed a heinous person for fouling your good name in no way whatsoever.
...Do I need to also provide you with the definitions of those words and phrases? Would that help YOU? You hide behind the fact that if there was evidence then I maybe a racist.
That's the real issue here. So without such evidence you could just say nothing, just assume everyone's coming from a good place but you don't, you'd rather assume somethings wrong, twisted, hidden beneath the surface.
That's what I'm saying. If you don't know for sure, don't say anything.
You know nothing about me but carry on, sure there'll be something else in a minute.
Oh and save yourself sometime and just put caps lock on, it's so grown up and makes me quiver haha,
Mrs x
I'm not hiding anywhere?
Your obsession with evidence is frankly hilarious. That's clearly how life works. You tick little boxes on a spreadsheet, compiling little wrongdoings and microagressions that people carry out and then once the scale tips over then Bam, that means you're a racist. But you can't go too soon on the racist word because everyone knows it's worse to be called a racist than it is to do racist things, right?
I know nothing about you. But you also know nothing about me? And my lived experiences that mean seeing past the smoke and mirrors you've tried to deploy here.
But do carry on. I'll leave you to it, especially if you're now wanking over my words. That seems more like a solo activity.
Odd, very, very odd. So without knowing you make judgements, by seeing past smoke and mirrors apparently.
So you don't need any evidence to make your mind up about anything? So with no interactions you can make your mind up about someone, they could be or may possibly be one thing or another despite anything actually saying, or even suggesting, that they are?
You must be the world's greatest judge of character, well done.
But you still have not managed to answer the question of how can choosing to see someone of a particular group, for sexy fun, be racist, acknowledging that racist acts are normally done on a negative basis to a particular group?
Mrs x
Neither have you explained your defensiveness in your refusal to acknowledge that it could be because of racist undertones?
Seems we are at a stalemate. And I do find those rather dull. Because I have explained why I believe what I believe. For me it's a preference nothing more or less. If it was anything else then I could put up an argument but I can't because I don't think like that.
You are asking me to defend myself from a position I do not have.
Maybe you are talking about unconcious bias and the like but that's not relevant here. I cannot hear these unconcious choices because they are unconcious.
I'm making conscious choices. I think about things, whatever I like I try to have, in all aspects of my life.
Just hypothetically, say I was unconsciously bias and had a proclivity towards racism to black men, then surely my actions, my conscious actions have been able override any unconcious bias in this area. So even here, in this sort of scenario it's a win. My conscious brain beating the racism from my unconcious. No?
But I cannot say this affects me because I genuinely have no thoughts of racism when making my decision. If you look at my verifications you can see I meet others who aren't black. In fact I think the first verification I got this time is from a guy whose race I don't know because I wasn't bothered to ask, I just knew I liked him, but I don't think he was black or white, just a lovely guy.
So I've tried to give an answer to your question, how about you return the favour.
Mrs x
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else." don't think it really matters why. Thing is women and couples on fab don't owe single men anything any more than men owe them. We can all choose who we are interested in for any reason, whether its aesthetic polictal or any other point of view. When it comes to who you're going to fuck you have the right to be picky and dont owe anyone an explanation. | |||
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Gherka is on another level. Nicey,, but pricey. But always classy.
Now you've got my attention. Nepal eh. Smack inbetween both countries
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Now you've got my attention. Nepal eh. Smack inbetween both countries
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Oh boyNo I haven't, not really, does that matter?
Mrs x
To me, yes it does, but you do you and those that continue to feed your fetish can continue to do you too. Vive la difference"So why does it matter, I never had the opportunity to date black guys, there were no were I lived, none at my school, I've been with my husband for forry years, and because I'm happy I never felt the need for a change of partner. And I only had one boyfriend before him. I knew lots of black people when I was younger but moved when I was young to a predominantly white neighbourhood. I only slept with a black guy once we started swinging. I'm bisexuality too but only acted on this once as a teen and then again once we started in the lifestyle. I don't think it's important that I didn't date a woman to know I'm securely attracted to them, well some of them. Mrs x | |||
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Oh boyNo I haven't, not really, does that matter?
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To me, yes it does, but you do you and those that continue to feed your fetish can continue to do you too. Vive la difference So why does it matter, I never had the opportunity to date black guys, there were no were I lived, none at my school, I've been with my husband for forry years, and because I'm happy I never felt the need for a change of partner. And I only had one boyfriend before him.
I knew lots of black people when I was younger but moved when I was young to a predominantly white neighbourhood.
I only slept with a black guy once we started swinging.
I'm bisexuality too but only acted on this once as a teen and then again once we started in the lifestyle. I don't think it's important that I didn't date a woman to know I'm securely attracted to them, well some of them.
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To me, yes it does, but you do you and those that continue to feed your fetish can continue to do you too. Vive la difference So why does it matter, I never had the opportunity to date black guys, there were no were I lived, none at my school, I've been with my husband for forry years, and because I'm happy I never felt the need for a change of partner. And I only had one boyfriend before him.
I knew lots of black people when I was younger but moved when I was young to a predominantly white neighbourhood.
I only slept with a black guy once we started swinging.
I'm bisexuality too but only acted on this once as a teen and then again once we started in the lifestyle. I don't think it's important that I didn't date a woman to know I'm securely attracted to them, well some of them.
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Oh boyNo I haven't, not really, does that matter?
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To me, yes it does, but you do you and those that continue to feed your fetish can continue to do you too. Vive la difference So why does it matter, I never had the opportunity to date black guys, there were no were I lived, none at my school, I've been with my husband for forry years, and because I'm happy I never felt the need for a change of partner. And I only had one boyfriend before him.
I knew lots of black people when I was younger but moved when I was young to a predominantly white neighbourhood.
I only slept with a black guy once we started swinging.
I'm bisexuality too but only acted on this once as a teen and then again once we started in the lifestyle. I don't think it's important that I didn't date a woman to know I'm securely attracted to them, well some of them.
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Is it exclusively Black men you sleep with on this scene? Or any one you find attractive? "No I don't exclusively see anyone. I do find some black guys very sexy but obviously not all of them. I've played with most races, guys, woman, couples and I've not not seen someone because of their background but I've not seen lots i don't find attractive, there always has to be an attraction. Mrs x | |||
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To me, yes it does, but you do you and those that continue to feed your fetish can continue to do you too. Vive la difference So why does it matter, I never had the opportunity to date black guys, there were no were I lived, none at my school, I've been with my husband for forry years, and because I'm happy I never felt the need for a change of partner. And I only had one boyfriend before him.
I knew lots of black people when I was younger but moved when I was young to a predominantly white neighbourhood.
I only slept with a black guy once we started swinging.
I'm bisexuality too but only acted on this once as a teen and then again once we started in the lifestyle. I don't think it's important that I didn't date a woman to know I'm securely attracted to them, well some of them.
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You know what Norty, I'll retract my last comment after what you've just said. My sincere apologies to you. "😘 Mrs x | |||
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"I don't get annoyed, but I do cringe a little at any profile stating racial preferences due to the potential stereotypes rooted in their choices. For example, I've seen a lot of profiles that state "No Asians". I don't get as upset seeing that as I used to but it does make me wonder whether their "preference" is based purely on attraction or something else. don't think it really matters why. Thing is women and couples on fab don't owe single men anything any more than men owe them. We can all choose who we are interested in for any reason, whether its aesthetic polictal or any other point of view. When it comes to who you're going to fuck you have the right to be picky and dont owe anyone an explanation." They don't owe anyone anything, agreed. But their reasoning can contribute to the wider stereotype of said group whether that's negative or positive. Although I don't suspect you've seen the effects of that. | |||
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"just wondering " As a white male and after reading some vapid and vacuous literature about such topics on tinterweb, I am absolutely uncertain as to whether I am affected. It would be so refreshing to hear what other forumites have experienced in order to help me soul search and make an informed decision. Perhaps maybe a white lady, an Asian dude then maybe another white lady jumping in rather than the original request? It would help me immensely if they can keep the original text in each reply, reply often, get absolutely nowhere in their debate then it might help me come to a conclusion. It's been quite a while since we have had conscious/uncønscious racial accusations levelled at people on the forums, with counter arguments coming in, and slight 'dog piling' but it clearly shows the importance of the topic. So gladiators...well done, you've done well and for those of you who haven't done so well...well done anyway. Let's look forward to tomorrow's debate...tune in pop pickers. 🦊 | |||
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